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legendary
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April 22, 2015, 12:31:36 PM
#31
An alternative: https://www.yandex.com/
legendary
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April 22, 2015, 11:37:54 AM
#30
All the big companies try to get bigger on behalf of their users and popularity. Even the small ones try that, just they are not that visible really.
legendary
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April 22, 2015, 11:34:47 AM
#29
also i don't like to repeat myself, but...

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2015/04/17/google-has-patented-ability-control-robot-army

the http://google.com/killer-robots.txt joke is becoming less and less funny each day...
hero member
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April 22, 2015, 11:30:25 AM
#28
Stopped reading at "FoxBusiness"

read a book http://www.amazon.com/Googled-The-End-World-Know/dp/0143118048
legendary
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April 22, 2015, 11:29:15 AM
#27
These two articles were mentioned in another thread, but they are worth repeating again:
https://medium.com/@NafeezAhmed/how-the-cia-made-google-e836451a959e
https://medium.com/@NafeezAhmed/why-google-made-the-nsa-2a80584c9c1
legendary
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April 22, 2015, 10:39:30 AM
#26
The hard part is my phone. Since they own Android it is impossible to get away from google using Android. There is a project to make an Ubuntu Linux phone, but it's taking forever.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyanogenMod (though Microsoft have invested now)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replicant_(operating_system)

or just keep using Android but without a Google account and use the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-Droid store for everything instead
Yes, thanks. I have heard of these also but not checked them out. I do use GetJar as an alternate repository. Although it has been buggy for me.
legendary
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April 22, 2015, 10:34:12 AM
#25
The hard part is my phone. Since they own Android it is impossible to get away from google using Android. There is a project to make an Ubuntu Linux phone, but it's taking forever.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyanogenMod (though Microsoft have invested now)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replicant_(operating_system)

or just keep using Android but without a Google account and use the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-Droid store for everything instead

Thanks for these alternatives. I know and using CyanogenMod but wasn't aware of Replicant.
legendary
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April 22, 2015, 10:19:41 AM
#24
The hard part is my phone. Since they own Android it is impossible to get away from google using Android. There is a project to make an Ubuntu Linux phone, but it's taking forever.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyanogenMod (though Microsoft have invested now)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replicant_(operating_system)

or just keep using Android but without a Google account and use the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-Droid store for everything instead
legendary
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April 22, 2015, 08:19:05 AM
#23
Google search is killing itself by presenting me a search within a bubble they created based on their idea of what would suit me and most off all suit people selling stuff to me. If I search on google the first results are all webshops which try to convince me they sell everything I ever happen to type, that is not a good search algorithm, that is a good marketing algorithm and it becoming worse each day. Brands shops and worse the sites that only collect all the shop data to get revenue from affiliate sales all do their best to get in my face.

It will be the end of google one day. Yacy might not work correct yet, but the idea is what counts, trying to convince people of its benefits is hard, especially in the initial state, it needs to grow, but how can you next to the goliaths of searching and internet.

Google is too dependant of its add revenue and its shareholders not to be evil and say, hey, decentralised searching is better for everyone, lets work on it and dump our old model and start over with something better to make a better no evil world! They have the power and insight to do so, but the ones in control are the shareholders and the advertisers, they are caged in.


Will YaCy Hurt Google Search?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDaPNCIpu28


legendary
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April 22, 2015, 08:05:19 AM
#22



Google will let you see everything you’ve ever searched


Google is famous for keeping discreet tabs on how people browse the Internet in order to market ads back to them and point them toward the websites, videos and services they want.

Now, it’s possible for the average Web user to get a slice of some of that information.

Over the weekend, an unofficial Google blog highlighted a new feature that the Internet giant had quietly rolled out to let people download their entire Google search histories.

To find everything they’ve ever searched for, users should go to Google Web History, click the gear icon and click “Download.”
“Create an archive of your search history data,” the Web company promises.

In a few moments, it sends an email with downloadable cache of data about people’s past searches.

The archive won’t work for people who have altered their privacy settings, and only records searches that occurred while logged in to Google, such as through Gmail.

Still, the archive is a demonstration of how much information Google quietly retains about its users. The company is by no means unique in compiling scores of data about people’s browsing habits, but its size has made it a target for privacy advocates who fear companies having access to vast amounts of personal information.

In addition to Google, companies known as data brokers — which make a business out of compiling dossiers on consumers in order to sell use for advertising — have come under scrutiny from Capitol Hill and Washington regulators, who fear that people’s privacy is not being adequately protected.

That search history can also be useful to the government, in order to track down potential terrorists or criminals. Among other things, federal agents are able to subpoena lists of search histories from companies like Google during the course of an investigation.


http://thehill.com/policy/technology/239487-google-will-let-you-see-everything-youve-ever-searched


sr. member
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April 22, 2015, 07:14:05 AM
#21
Google search is killing itself by presenting me a search within a bubble they created based on their idea of what would suit me and most off all suit people selling stuff to me. If I search on google the first results are all webshops which try to convince me they sell everything I ever happen to type, that is not a good search algorithm, that is a good marketing algorithm and it becoming worse each day. Brands shops and worse the sites that only collect all the shop data to get revenue from affiliate sales all do their best to get in my face.

It will be the end of google one day. Yacy might not work correct yet, but the idea is what counts, trying to convince people of its benefits is hard, especially in the initial state, it needs to grow, but how can you next to the goliaths of searching and internet.

Google is too dependant of its add revenue and its shareholders not to be evil and say, hey, decentralised searching is better for everyone, lets work on it and dump our old model and start over with something better to make a better no evil world! They have the power and insight to do so, but the ones in control are the shareholders and the advertisers, they are caged in.
legendary
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April 22, 2015, 06:50:14 AM
#20
The ownership is with the content creator, the owner itself, so I would like to maintain(and pay) for my website and blog, hosting my images and even maintain and install my own crawler to find things I like and people who want to share. It is owned by yourself and therefore you can decide what to share and with whom!

For economics sake there is money to be made of me, but not indirect by selling my personal data, only direct for me to secure my private data and keep it in my own hands. I can buy a crawler, an app, some storage space. But then again, why and how should an open network like that be able to keep google and facebook out? They have the means and power to overtake and ruin it again by supplying and then when people are hooked again make it a closed community again.

The digital age is all about addiction and keeping people addicted. All marketing is directed towards that goal. Keep them coming back for more only to sell them more.

With google the main thing isn't the crawler or the indexed database but the business intelligence behind the service what provides correct answers quickly. Such systems are not a fire and forget stuff but something what needs constant tweaking and a lot of maintenance. This is what you can't really get with the existing distributed search engines, and something what the local sysadmin guy will not provide for you. BTW for example Yacy is a good tool for indexing and searching local stuff on my network, but not working very well as a generic Google like search engine.
sr. member
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April 22, 2015, 06:40:34 AM
#19
It is freaky to realise how many people, including myself rely on those big internet players. Most of my friends and family, there is no internet, there is Google and Facebook and for some, Google is just a way to type 'facebook' and see the internet just as that, internet equals facebook, the wet dream of Zuckerberg and the likes. Why do we so heavily depend on those centralised, closed and totaly evil systems?

Would be a great sullotion if there was a true, decentralised and open social networking protocol, XML RSS or whatever that would be ready to let you share from where you are willing to put it, be it a personal website or a wordpress blog, the data is stored localy, the search is done with your personal crawler that crawls your selected feeds and tries to find feeds that are open and related to your search by empowering the crawlers of others, you become a node sending your feed, only that what you want and getting only what others want to share. You do not need big data centers if all node crawl together and share.

It should be back to the drawing board for the true geeks again and like Satoshi revolutionise something that has been doing Evil for Google is the Empire and it is striking back with force.

There is an issue with decentralized stuff. It's owned by no one therefore no one want to maintain it. I'm afraid we'll be dependent on companies like Google for a while.

The ownership is with the content creator, the owner itself, so I would like to maintain(and pay) for my website and blog, hosting my images and even maintain and install my own crawler to find things I like and people who want to share. It is owned by yourself and therefore you can decide what to share and with whom!

For economics sake there is money to be made of me, but not indirect by selling my personal data, only direct for me to secure my private data and keep it in my own hands. I can buy a crawler, an app, some storage space. But then again, why and how should an open network like that be able to keep google and facebook out? They have the means and power to overtake and ruin it again by supplying and then when people are hooked again make it a closed community again.

The digital age is all about addiction and keeping people addicted. All marketing is directed towards that goal. Keep them coming back for more only to sell them more.
legendary
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April 22, 2015, 06:05:53 AM
#18

Unfortunately Yacy not working very well. Last time when I tried by searching for "aruba 7030 short on storage" I've got this as the second most relevant hit (the first most relevant was completely unrelated too):
"??NASTY LADIES WANT MEN FOR CASUAL SEX?? Www.swanson vitamins.com 822 2100429 Complete urological evaluation."

So today it's only good for laughing on the results Smiley.
legendary
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April 22, 2015, 05:58:59 AM
#17
It is freaky to realise how many people, including myself rely on those big internet players. Most of my friends and family, there is no internet, there is Google and Facebook and for some, Google is just a way to type 'facebook' and see the internet just as that, internet equals facebook, the wet dream of Zuckerberg and the likes. Why do we so heavily depend on those centralised, closed and totaly evil systems?

Would be a great sullotion if there was a true, decentralised and open social networking protocol, XML RSS or whatever that would be ready to let you share from where you are willing to put it, be it a personal website or a wordpress blog, the data is stored localy, the search is done with your personal crawler that crawls your selected feeds and tries to find feeds that are open and related to your search by empowering the crawlers of others, you become a node sending your feed, only that what you want and getting only what others want to share. You do not need big data centers if all node crawl together and share.

It should be back to the drawing board for the true geeks again and like Satoshi revolutionise something that has been doing Evil for Google is the Empire and it is striking back with force.

There is an issue with decentralized stuff. It's owned by no one therefore no one want to maintain it. I'm afraid we'll be dependent on companies like Google for a while.
legendary
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April 22, 2015, 05:58:06 AM
#16
From the browser google will know only what you want them to know.
You don't have to find everything with their search engine, you don't have to use chrome.
They sell the info about you. So all you share, it's not only theirs.
And then what's the worse dark empire, Google you know about or the others buying from Google, doing a lot else with your info and you'll never know? Debatable, I'd say.


The only thing I'd be worried about would be Android, where you kinda have to share all your info.
And iOS is not better.
Here a solution would be interesting.
hero member
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April 22, 2015, 05:50:33 AM
#15
I like Google, I can't image if Google is disappear how can I got the information I need. It really convince for my work.
sr. member
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April 22, 2015, 04:39:11 AM
#14
It is freaky to realise how many people, including myself rely on those big internet players. Most of my friends and family, there is no internet, there is Google and Facebook and for some, Google is just a way to type 'facebook' and see the internet just as that, internet equals facebook, the wet dream of Zuckerberg and the likes. Why do we so heavily depend on those centralised, closed and totaly evil systems?

Would be a great sullotion if there was a true, decentralised and open social networking protocol, XML RSS or whatever that would be ready to let you share from where you are willing to put it, be it a personal website or a wordpress blog, the data is stored localy, the search is done with your personal crawler that crawls your selected feeds and tries to find feeds that are open and related to your search by empowering the crawlers of others, you become a node sending your feed, only that what you want and getting only what others want to share. You do not need big data centers if all node crawl together and share.

It should be back to the drawing board for the true geeks again and like Satoshi revolutionise something that has been doing Evil for Google is the Empire and it is striking back with force.
legendary
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April 21, 2015, 09:08:44 PM
#13
Google is an "evil empire" who gives you free services and in return will sell your preferences to advertisers, but they make good products. I don't have a problem with Google remembering my searches, I am concerns on my email stored on their servers.



Google is bigger than its advertising and search engine solutions...












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