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March 13, 2018, 05:20:32 PM
I decided to quit ICO's. From December till now I invested about 5 eth into several ICO's. Invest what you can miss, this is what was able to miss.

Right now the first few of my ICO's have reached the exchanges. Most are under performing, but this is related to the overall dip (can be read everywhere). I understand, but ICO token economics have changed also.

  • massive hardcaps
  • most is sold in pre-sale to big investors, leaving scraps for crowdsale
  • much attention to marketing, less to working product or realistic time lines
  • immediately available on EtherDelta and IDEX, sure sign of little interest in token economics/future
  • no lock on pre-sale tokens, whales take their x2, x3 or x-whatever as soon as possible (I would probably have done the same). Prices drop to below ICO price.
  • too many ICO's without distinctive differences.
  • too many ICO's in general
  • too much tokens reserved for team/marketing
  • many ICO's don't even have a crowdsale anymore (which perhaps is a good thing as the little investors are protected this way)
  • ICO prizes are quite high. 1eth = 1000/4000 tokens is pretty common, but with a hc of 40 million, this will not easily go x10 or more.

I was 'unlucky' to miss out on a few ICO's besides the ones I was able to participate in. Afterwards I am glad, since I was able to pick most up at a fraction of the ICO price.

Important as ever: DYOR as not all ICO's have a genuine solution to a genuine problem. Some may seem like a fantastic solution, but often it is marketing combined with a strong team, and not so much a great working product.

And who am I? I am definitely a nobody Tongue, but still wanted to share my experiences and perhaps save people from thinking of getting on board of the next x100 ICO Smiley

p.s. when a Telegram has over 20k subscribers all screaming 'when lambo' with endless rows of animated gifs, you may also wonder if this is a serious block chain solution which will revolutionize 'x' Smiley
Perhaps You should have chosen an ICO with initially small capitalization, high ratings and big bonuses.

That would be great idea. Choosing the good ico is the best way to avoid doubts on them. Sometimes we have to look for a promising project with lower caps to have a chance of having a higher price when ico ends.
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March 13, 2018, 05:09:30 PM
Quote from: TonyFat lin=topic=2946640.msg32233096#msg32233096 date=1520959960
so far I can not agree with you, because I start to go deep into the ICO and see this as a future and a good way to make money.

It can only multiply your investment if the project succeed on their ICO. Not all are become successful, better to make the research before you invest, personally if the ICO are good I study this thing for good and invest later on, its risky but yeah its worht it.
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March 13, 2018, 05:04:10 PM
Great that you shared your experience. I am currently considering also to stop doing ICOs for the same reasons. That being said I have had a few lottery tickets in the ICOs that I took part to which are currently responsible for most of my portfolio. These were however some time ago before the market became extremely saturated.
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March 13, 2018, 04:27:17 PM
The number of ico that every day always makes some people wonder, many companies claimed to guarantee various aspects of life through interesting offers from various ICO and new token or coin was created. But every day there is always a new ICO that is no different from the previous ICO. This is no longer a service to the public, but leads to competition among companies. And all this can result in not the number of tokens / coins that the more difficult to suppress.
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March 13, 2018, 01:37:56 PM
When this sphere was not very well known and popular, naturally, there were fewer unsuccessful and scam projects. Now, ICO "captured" crypto world and unfortunately, I also ran into a few unsuccessful projects. Although in the beginning, they seemed promising with fairly good ideas and products. However, I don't cease to participate in ICO because from the very beginning I knew the risks. I went into it with my eyes wide open.
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March 13, 2018, 01:35:43 PM
It is necessary to carefully select all read about in Social Media. Well acquainted with the team, read what others have to say investors and experts.It is completely secure from fraud but at least minimizes risk join fraudulent ICO.



Very important to do your research and if satisfied than only invest in ICO. As we know that their are so many ICO today coming up and all will definitely not be a good one. Majority out of this will be a bad investment so one has to select the best among this and for this one needs to thoroughly go through various things before picking any of them.
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March 13, 2018, 01:33:05 PM
It is necessary to carefully select all read about in Social Media. Well acquainted with the team, read what others have to say investors and experts.It is completely secure from fraud but at least minimizes risk join fraudulent ICO.

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March 13, 2018, 01:29:34 PM
much attention to marketing, less to working product or realistic time lines
immediately available on EtherDelta and IDEX, sure sign of little interest in token economics/future
no lock on pre-sale tokens, whales take their x2, x3 or x-whatever as soon as possible (I would probably have done the same). Prices drop to below ICO price.
too many ICO's without distinctive differences.
too many ICO's in general
too much tokens reserved for team/marketing
many ICO's don't even have a crowdsale anymore (which perhaps is a good thing as the little investors are protected this way)
ICO prizes are quite high. 1eth = 1000/4000 tokens is pretty common, but with a hc of 40 million, this will not easily go x10 or more.

Its good to have community feedback and part of price discovery is this kind of criticism.   Prices can be set during an ICO but it doesnt mean anything till the market confirms it in active trading.    IT might make alot more sense to wait until its on etherdelta and there is a live price.

Development of the product often follows the ICO funding, its a seedling rather then a fully grown project.  Thats very common, where as a stock IPO would be a fully formed company most often though it can also be a kind of investment fund too.

I think its best to take a step back and see progress vs price after the ICO.    Price doesnt always go up, theres opportunities afterwards and I think also less risk doing so
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March 13, 2018, 01:01:51 PM
Well I agree firstly that investing in ICO projects is always risky, and that profit is not guaranteed like many newbies think. It is hard to find the most promising projects which are numbered. But in the other side, if you invest in the greatest ICOs you have the potential to make huge earning, and already many crypto users earned thousands of Dollars by investing in such projects.

I think it is better to study the whole ICO stuff and then invest our money. They say learning something and then taking decision about it always makes the fortune door to open up.

I agree to OP that ICO are filled with lots of scams, hardcaps, false promises and much more but hey come on it is not always the case and there are at least few of the ICO projects which turn out to be jackpot projects of all time. I'm finding that learning more and more about ICO does benefits us lot because it give us real sense of the business and then we can make proper decision about it. So I am little disappointed that propel are already tired of ICO but on the other hand they can earn huge out of it.
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March 13, 2018, 12:52:40 PM
so far I can not agree with you, because I start to go deep into the ICO and see this as a future and a good way to make money.
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March 12, 2018, 03:12:44 PM
Its certainly up to you, but you are right in many things. I also try avoiding many projects, but participation in good ICOs give me the additional income.
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March 08, 2018, 09:54:59 AM
I think there is definitely something to be said for the culture that seems to be sweeping through cryptocurrency which is very worrying because one of the main principles is setting up a business is the culture you start out with will always linger so it's very dangerous that the "when moon,when lambo" culture exist at such an early stage. A quote that I hope turns out to be true is "bitcoins is a revolutionary technology disguised as a get rich quick scheme.
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March 08, 2018, 09:50:21 AM
Biggest problem that people invest money without good analytic of ICO or just hear somebody that is a best ico and need invest money there , i invested some and already made profit from 0.5x to 2.5x from each ico and i liked it , but when i just decided to invest to some ico without good preparing i lost 10x from my investment .
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March 08, 2018, 08:32:16 AM
many people are crazy about joining ICO, they think to get results from ICO. need to know also, many ICO under the guise of fraud as well. do not get too ambitious, think carefully first.

Sometime we need to try another way to get a good earning. Being ambitious is not bad if you are trying to invest in an ICO but we need to be careful enough to deal with an ICO because some of them are fake and just want to scam only. In investing, failure always comes if you will not do some techniques. So better to do some ways to be successful.
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March 06, 2018, 09:00:50 PM
Well, some good coins right now have undergone to ICO it's just a matter of choice and luck if the ICO you participated in gets ATH but you never aforementioned if you hold it a year or for a long term basis. I agree on your view that there is a low future on coins if somehow listed on incompetent exchanges and it will just a matter of time before the coin or token may dump.
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March 06, 2018, 08:33:17 PM
I agree. There are a lot of ICO's coming out and it feels like the x100 thing for coins will not happen. If it did happen, the hardest thing is to spot on who's ICO you will invest. It takes a lot of research, reading whitepapers can be exhausting if you know what I mean. Still traders to continue to do this and hoping to hit the jackpot one day. One thing is for sure, coin prices will start to increase after months of holding it. But the x100 is impossilbe.
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March 06, 2018, 08:25:02 PM
There are a lot of risk involve in investing ICOs, and the more you invest the more expectation of high rewards in a short period of time you will be thinking, but it will not work that way, there are other legit ICOs that work long term vision like 2 to 3 years vision, it is also like a company where we can follow their vision. ICOs are like companies for stock market.
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March 06, 2018, 07:57:49 PM
better to follow the project in an ICO because we can get coin for free by joining bounty campaign such as signature campaign, twitter campaign, blog campaign and others. besides that we can also invest in ICO and will get enough profit because coin price at the time of ICO very cheap and got bonus.
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March 06, 2018, 07:34:39 PM
I agree with you. Many ico's are just selling crap or not responding adequately to the investors. But I think that's the price of having the opportunity to generate a large profit in a small time. You just need to be more carefull in your picks.
This is the biggest issue, even with all the regulations many will keep investing in icos if we saw new and exciting developments but what we see are the same coins and the same ideas and nothing new and if that was not bad enough they keep raising the bar of the money they want to get and the information they want from us and yet they do not offer information about themselves.
That is the risk of investing in an ico. We can only try to do the demon analysis to get the correct information, ico it becomes a very extraordinary thing now, the development of ico in the world is very high. Because many people think that with them investing in an ico then they can get big profits, whereas the risk is so great that even we can lose all the money we have. The fact may be that little ico ends successfully and mostly ends in failure. Our cleverness in choosing ico will be the determinant of whether we will succeed or not.
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March 06, 2018, 07:24:24 PM
I agree with you. Many ico's are just selling crap or not responding adequately to the investors. But I think that's the price of having the opportunity to generate a large profit in a small time. You just need to be more carefull in your picks.
This is the biggest issue, even with all the regulations many will keep investing in icos if we saw new and exciting developments but what we see are the same coins and the same ideas and nothing new and if that was not bad enough they keep raising the bar of the money they want to get and the information they want from us and yet they do not offer information about themselves.
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