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legendary
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December 01, 2024, 03:33:10 AM
#29
That’s a wise approach. Who knows what kind of fuckery happening in those amateur sports. E-sports are also not much different. (Dota, CS etc) I believe most of the time we are watching a scripted game if it is not a pro-sports game. We should only bet on well known leagues/games/tournaments imo. Like the NBA, champions league, EPL, olympics, world cup etc… If the game doesn’t have watchers, it is easier to fix it because nobody will care. It is way harder to fix a world cup game for that reason.

I agree, because I'm not even entirely sure that games in professional leagues can be completely fair, and I don't even want to think about amateur ones, because I'm almost sure that not everything is so clean there. I even know of a case when in one of the amateur divisions in my city, there was a referee who could appoint a penalty by agreement, he didn't work for long, but I think simply because he wasn't very careful, but I'm sure that these are not isolated cases.
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December 01, 2024, 03:31:08 AM
#28
The reason why I don't place a bet for unpopular sports is because I don't know where I can finds the information and analyze it. But some people who familiar with the sports will bet on that because they thinks that the competition will not be though like the other sports. People will know what they want to bet and will choose after they see the lists on the casino. But the casino will still gives bet for the unpopular sports because they know that some people will search that for some reasons. Crypto bookies don't have to take the initiative to fund more small sports associations and let them search by themselves.
legendary
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December 01, 2024, 03:24:07 AM
#27
That’s a wise approach. Who knows what kind of fuckery happening in those amateur sports. E-sports are also not much different. (Dota, CS etc) I believe most of the time we are watching a scripted game if it is not a pro-sports game. We should only bet on well known leagues/games/tournaments imo. Like the NBA, champions league, EPL, olympics, world cup etc… If the game doesn’t have watchers, it is easier to fix it because nobody will care. It is way harder to fix a world cup game for that reason.
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December 01, 2024, 03:17:49 AM
#26
I have no excitement when betting on non-pro sports or unknown leagues/events.

Gambling is for fun, how can I get entertained if I'm not excited with the sports/teams/players that I bet? betting in non-pro sports is like gave away your money and hope you will win.

In my country I have seen this scenario of rigged matches also in major league (Aka Football Serie A).
If this happens on that level, its something "normal" this happens everywhere if there is a chance for gambling or any other economic advantage.  
Even in Premier League there was a fixed match, but the possibility is much lower than the unknown league or the amateur one.

In fact, sports that are less popular and not even of interest to most sports fans have low betting market for their volume and are considered unprofitable.
Nah, people want to bet non-pro sports because they find it's profitable. Since the volume is low, the odds will not be adjusted over and over, so you might odds that profitable to bet.
hero member
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December 01, 2024, 02:53:45 AM
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So this also brings us to the point where ethicality has to be discussed. If we're spending money betting on a sport, doesn't it feel a little wrong to know the athletes earn nothing or close to nothing from this activity? Maybe at least crypto bookies should take the initiative to fund more small sports associations on the local level.

Maybe some of the athletes are secretly betting on fixed matches and that's how they earn a side income. This is a big reason why I don't bet money on unpopular and amateur sports. The outcomes being unpredictable isn't necessarily a bad thing. Maybe betting on more unpredictable sports is a way for some lucky sports bettors to beat the bookies.
Why would a gambler give a damn about the athletes earning nothing while playing certain sports? The athletes are doing this voluntarily, nobody forced them to play in these sports. The gamblers care about the outcomes only, not about the athletes.
The crypto bookies usually don't have enough money to fund a local sports association, and I doubt that they would lower their profits just to spend some money on such small local sponsorships.
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December 01, 2024, 02:40:06 AM
#24
In fact, sports that are less popular and not even of interest to most sports fans have low betting market for their volume and are considered unprofitable.
However, in my opinion sports that are less popular and have lower betting market volume will be easier for us to win, maybe there will be no manipulation because of the limited number of people betting and not many bookmakers using it as betting option.
I not sure bookmakers will take the initiative to fund certain associations or small competitions because that will also not be profitable for bookmakers.
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December 01, 2024, 02:38:58 AM
#23
There's a huge reason to avoid betting on unpopular sports.
Usually the teams are not close to a fully professional level which means that their form isn't predictable or reliable. Therefore the odds are really shit.
Unless you have good knowledge of these athletes yourself for some reason, it's not worth the risk.

For instance, if you bet on handball, most athletes in most countries have to have second jobs to sustain their presence in the sport, sometimes even in the top teams on this sport the salary isn't enough. What does this mean? Very few athletes that would otherwise be peak athletes are willing to partake in the sport after a certain point. Each team's performance is therefore hindered by many issues. The same teams playing against each other in a different universe can deliver wildly different results. The small teams can beat the huge ones etc.

And yet, the NCAA, the biggest college league for several sports, makes millions from broadcasting these games, selling rights and sports betting results.
But you would notice that in NCAA, even if you bet on a parlay with 10 games of 1.05 odds, it's more likely you'll be losing because upsets are more common than in a fully professional league.

Athletes in college sports are putting all  this effort and are paid nothing. Did you know that until very recently when there was a huge lawsuit reaching judgment, there was no agreement to compensate college athletes at all in the US?
https://www.thedp.com/article/2024/10/penn-ncaa-settlement-player-payment

So this also brings us to the point where ethicality has to be discussed. If we're spending money betting on a sport, doesn't it feel a little wrong to know the athletes earn nothing or close to nothing from this activity? Maybe at least crypto bookies should take the initiative to fund more small sports associations on the local level. 


On the other hand, you can win the huge odd, betting against team with 1.05. It is high risk betting but the prize is great. I was in betting on low leagues for a long enough time. It was nice result for me.
The same time nobody makes you bet on such matches, you can just avoid it. I don`t think that we have to change something in such situation. The players grow up from league to league. Some moment they have to choose between sport or career. Who choose sports - grow up to their limits. May be it looks unfair, but it is real life, here there are lots of unfair things.
sr. member
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December 01, 2024, 02:19:48 AM
#22

So this also brings us to the point where ethicality has to be discussed. If we're spending money betting on a sport, doesn't it feel a little wrong to know the athletes earn nothing or close to nothing from this activity? Maybe at least crypto bookies should take the initiative to fund more small sports associations on the local level. 


In any sports where there is little or no renumeration there is high chances of it being manipulated by officials and people that have stakes in the sports. So on a broader perspective it'll not attract mainstream gambling into the sports because how can you analyze the games when you have a feeling that it can be easily manipulated, it'll be a total waste of time.

I doubt that crypto bookies will care to fund these unpopular sports when they have their hands full with popular sports like football and basketball. The way forward for unpopular sports is for their organizers to make them more lucrative by paying the athletes very well, their lifestyles can attract fans to want to follow the sports that they're in. Also advertisment is key,, if a lot of funds are put into them, more people will be interested and gradually manipulations will decrease.
legendary
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November 30, 2024, 11:56:19 PM
#21
So this also brings us to the point where ethicality has to be discussed. If we're spending money betting on a sport, doesn't it feel a little wrong to know the athletes earn nothing or close to nothing from this activity?
Well, I don't see anything wrong in that regard. It's the choice they made. I don't think athletes are forced into any sports. They decide on their own. If they want better paying sports they can switch to those. After all, we've seen sportsmen/women switch from one sports to another. I can recall a certain Nigeria professional footballer, Osaze Odemwingie, who crossed to Golf after retiring from football. So, it's a matter of interest. Those athletes who think they aren't paid well can risk crossing to other sports.
legendary
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November 30, 2024, 11:35:35 PM
#20
My suggestion on this topic? Always avoid to bet games with "strange odds". Try to bet live watching a game. 
I prefer just football. I have seen strange odds before but not common. Sometimes I lose the bet while sometimes I will the bet. Strange odd do common if a good team is not playing good at the moment. That is where I did took note of something like that. Also if a club that is not good before is the champion and playing against a very good team. The one I remember about this later case was Leicester City odds against very good clubs like Manchester City when Leicester won EPL. There was one like that but in another league that I won 2 odds before. But the result sometimes can be unexpected. But I just for for common top leagues.
legendary
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November 30, 2024, 11:19:22 PM
#19
Unpopular sports are indeed those matches in which many non-professionals play. Yes, these may be people who have achieved a certain mastery in their game, but, as the author rightly put it, they must have a second job in order to have a sufficient source of income. Unfortunately, this is reality. But if we turn to the idea that bookmakers should sponsor these matches, then we will come to interesting phenomena. In fact, bookmakers will implicitly determine the outcome of many matches. There is already a conspiracy theory that the bookmaker pushes competing teams to one result or another.
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November 30, 2024, 11:13:53 PM
#18
So this also brings us to the point where ethicality has to be discussed. If we're spending money betting on a sport, doesn't it feel a little wrong to know the athletes earn nothing or close to nothing from this activity? Maybe at least crypto bookies should take the initiative to fund more small sports associations on the local level. 
That is really good idea. Atleast to encourage the teams and also contributes to the promotion of the athletes which are not widely known.
But on a controversy, don't we think the casinos are basically on existence for business which interactive as an activity is regarded between the bookmakers and the players (gamblers)? Or otherwise an event of give and take which is either the gambling house profits or the players in the house takes the profits.

We can see even the handball amongst the sport games are not too interesting for players to ride on as much as the football and boxing is events is being so attractive and enjoyable to watch even in a reality.

Okay, my overview of this is that players would love to play were they have potential possiblities to make the right predictions to secure winning which could probably be one of a popular local and international sport events like the football.
The bookmakers may not want to invest on what would not yield them profits in returns but I think think your thoughts of elevating the unpopular events like the athletes especially on the local levels as said could have potential offers to bring to the crypto house a return of profitability.  Just gonna be in a matter of time because the World is eventually is evolving in discovery on potential events in both sports, entrepreneur and technologies closer and useful to the universe.
legendary
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November 30, 2024, 10:37:15 PM
#17
There are also entire league or sports (or "e-sports") that are really hard to be trusted with gambling.
In my country I have seen this scenario of rigged matches also in major league (Aka Football Serie A).
If this happens on that level, its something "normal" this happens everywhere if there is a chance for gambling or any other economic advantage.
My suggestion on this topic? Always avoid to bet games with "strange odds". Try to bet live watching a game. 
hero member
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November 30, 2024, 08:46:55 PM
#16
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Hmm idk, I don't really give a crap personally about how casinos would help these small-scale sports. I guess at its core the sport is just, well, as you've noted "unpopular" so it's no surprise why there's less money there.

Personally, I don't bet on unpopular sports because they're not enjoyable. That's my number 1 reason. Number 2 would just be the sample size. I heavily rely on matches prior to judging player skill, so as you've said, unpopular sports often have changes to players so it's more susceptible to having anyone literally win, which leads to less sample size for me to judge.
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November 30, 2024, 06:43:37 PM
#15
Betting on non-pro sports is likely more luck-based because you don't know their skills, plus it is boring to watch.
I am more confident to bet on professional players because you already know their skills.
Unless the odds are good, but if they are the same as on popular games with bad odds, then I prefer to bet on popular games over non-pro sports.
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November 30, 2024, 06:32:26 PM
#14
It's now clearer to me why I should avoid non-pro sports, I haven't ever thought of it the way I just did now. I just usually don't get to take sports that I know nothing about in my bets but when it comes to fixed a matches I usually don't know why such things happen but with article about I have seen a good reason why it's likely to keep happening. when athletes are not well payed people can manipulate them easily with price offering and this mostly happens on unpopular leagues. I think it's better to keep my distance from non-pro sports.
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November 30, 2024, 06:19:17 PM
#13
And yet, the NCAA, the biggest college league for several sports, makes millions from broadcasting these games, selling rights and sports betting results.
But you would notice that in NCAA, even if you bet on a parlay with 10 games of 1.05 odds, it's more likely you'll be losing because upsets are more common than in a fully professional league.


This is why the speculation of rigging games came up. It’s just an observation, but we can always draw our own conclusions since we’re the ones betting on it. However,  when it comes to the odds, I think they don’t always make sense. You know,  odds can be overvalued to attract bettors into thinking that something like 1.05 is almost a sure win. what I’m saying is that it’s not always about the odds, it’s about how the game is being played. That means we need to watch the games closely to spot any signs of rigging.
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November 30, 2024, 06:14:05 PM
#12
Those teams I do not know or I have no idea about their performance I do not place any bet on that betting. Because there a lot of gambling bet while they are not popular and the result can be alternative of the thinking. FOr example on the cricket local team may not cover 100 runs but the betting may insist to bet on 300 runs.
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November 30, 2024, 06:11:23 PM
#11
So this also brings us to the point where ethicality has to be discussed. If we're spending money betting on a sport, doesn't it feel a little wrong to know the athletes earn nothing or close to nothing from this activity? Maybe at least crypto bookies should take the initiative to fund more small sports associations on the local level.  
Gambling companies do sponsor teams on different sports, but realistically speaking, they aren't going to sponsor teams which don't have much relevance in the sports scene, because it's not interesting for the brand. They wish their companies to be seen by a large audience, so they focus their sponsorships on the main leagues, especially in soccer industry. That is how business works, and there is nothing we can do about it.

It's not possible to boost the audience artificially, neither sponsorships. If the gambling platforms were ours, and we had to choose where to invest the propaganda budget, I guess we would adopt the same stance they do on this matter. After all, it's not charity. It's an investment aiming returns later.
legendary
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November 30, 2024, 06:07:45 PM
#10
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So this also brings us to the point where ethicality has to be discussed. If we're spending money betting on a sport, doesn't it feel a little wrong to know the athletes earn nothing or close to nothing from this activity? Maybe at least crypto bookies should take the initiative to fund more small sports associations on the local level. 
Spending money to gambling has nothing to do with the situations where athletes don't get paid.

And not everyone is doing everything only because they get paid for it. People also play because they have love for the sport. It's their hobby that keeps their health up, and it's just plus if they get something out of it rather then just paying for their hobbies like rest of us.

And it's not like most gamblers are making big bucks of betting. It's a zero sum game, on which sports book take their cut. You have to have lot of losers in gambling in order to have winners. So how it would be unethical towards athletes, when gamblers are the ones risking their money?
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