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December 28, 2014, 05:59:48 AM
Evolution is not a theory. It has been proven wrong so many hundreds of times since its inception, that the only thing that keeps it in theory status is a bunch of people who are fighting against God by hoping that evolution might become a theory again. These people are hyping it so strongly that it seems to hold theory status.

All you need to do is read scientific papers, examining the evidence, not the conclusions of the authors. The evidences (which is often backed up by the authors' conclusions, though not always) show that there is no conclusive evidence for evolution that cannot be attributed at the same time to programmed-in changes do to climatic or environmental changes.

Peoples from climates with winters don't have narrower, more pointy noses to deal with the extremely cold air. Peoples from the hot tropic Savannas of Africa don't have more melanin in their skin to deal with the increased exposure to the sun's radiation.

Yeah evolution doesn't exist.

Define "evolution." The evolution I am talking about is a thing that supposedly took inanimate chemicals and turned them into the abundant life we see today. The fossil record shows that there were times in the past where life was way more abundant than it is today.

I would somewhat like scientists to develop a really plausible, working method whereby life could have potentially developed through evolution. The reason I would like this is that it would show how great God is... that He could develop us artificial intelligences that could actually formulate a way to evolve life into existence. Unfortunately, science hasn't done this yet.

Of course, this would only be a small starting point for proving evolution. Why? Because nobody can look into the past to see what happened. And there are still way too many unforeseeable variables that could have occurred over the millennia, to have even a clue whether life happened by evolution or not.

This is another point that defeats evolution as fact. The greater the time-span for evolution to develop into what we have today, the greater the chances that it would fail, simply because there would be more time for "failure" events to happen.

Now, if somebody invented a real, working time viewer...

Smiley

Proving creation versus evolution is as unfalsifiable as proving God exists, because there is no way to rebuild the past with such precision because for example, we have no way to prove that our data is omniscient (there are normally multiple realities, i.e. your and my recollection of history will never be entirely the same). Thus anyone who argues this is INSANE because entropy is unbounded in either direction in time (forward or reverse)[1]. What can't be falsified, can't be proved. End of discussion.

The scientific method is only an approximation of collective reality while it is experienced and updated in real-time. Collective reality diverges in spacetime (and other dimensions) from any sampling point, because a collective reality is unstable and transient, otherwise nothing could exist because there would be no degrees-of-freedom in the universe, i.e. the entropy would 0. Trying to go back to the start of the Universe is utter nonsense, because the entropy is unbounded, i.e. there is/was no start just as there is no edge to the Universe[2].

[1] I may be the first person to assert that. I dunno. And I need to write down some proofs when I get some free time. It follows logically from [2]
[2] http://unheresy.com/The%20Universe.html#Matter_as_a_continuum
newbie
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December 28, 2014, 05:16:46 AM
Are you a racist?

Only idiots (and there are lot of them in this world) conflate "scientifically verified group differences" with "unjustified discrimination". Here is some reading material for your edumacation.

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=142

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6160

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=4278
Well, Jesus was black.....

Well probably more of a olive middle eastern skin color.
We could agree on that.  You mean in the archaic language of the phrenological past, someone who might have been called "one of the coloreds?"  Perhaps some of those in this discussion more knowledgable and more certain of their knowledge of the history of racism might answer that?

Surely a phrenological examination of the Savior, Jesus Christ, would show what race he belonged to.  Or conversely, such examination of the races existent would show what races he could not possibly belong to?

Wink

You didn't introduce any counter example to the data I had linked to.

Some Jews are less white than some Europeans, yet some subgroups of Jews have the highest average IQs.

I think it is quite clear the distinction between such races the black skinned negros in Africa (perhaps other than Egypt, Ethiopia, Morocco) which have an average IQ (of 85 which is) one standard deviation below the Europeans and East Asians.
legendary
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December 28, 2014, 02:29:53 AM
Are you a racist?

Only idiots (and there are lot of them in this world) conflate "scientifically verified group differences" with "unjustified discrimination". Here is some reading material for your edumacation.

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=142

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6160

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=4278
Well, Jesus was black.....

Well probably more of a olive middle eastern skin color.
We could agree on that.  You mean in the archaic language of the phrenological past, someone who might have been called "one of the coloreds?"  Perhaps some of those in this discussion more knowledgable and more certain of their knowledge of the history of racism might answer that?

Surely a phrenological examination of the Savior, Jesus Christ, would show what race he belonged to.  Or conversely, such examination of the races existent would show what races he could not possibly belong to?

Wink
legendary
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December 27, 2014, 11:38:18 PM
Any racists here? Yes. Those who want to deny me and my race the right to focus on our race more than on other races.

Smiley
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December 27, 2014, 09:59:57 PM
Are you a racist?

Only idiots (and there are lot of them in this world) conflate "scientifically verified group differences" with "unjustified discrimination". Here is some reading material for your edumacation.

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=142

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6160

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=4278
Well, Jesus was black.....

Well probably more of a olive middle eastern skin color.
full member
Activity: 226
Merit: 100
December 27, 2014, 09:57:20 PM
Hispanic-Black =)

Maybe you (white) guys can find some vacant plots in the neighborhood of the native-american reservations to make your own reservations Smiley.

im not white

OK. Then replace "you (white) guys" with "your (white) guys" and "make your own" with "make their own". Is this OK now Smiley?


No it's not ok. All people are alike. Better stop dividing them. This will not lead you anywhere. We all living on the same planet.

Their is a thing called subspecies you know that right?

What are you trying to say? Are you a racist?

Yes I am racist because science shows that their are different groups in our species. You are a idiot to just throw something off as racist because it doesn't agree with your agenda.
legendary
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December 27, 2014, 09:41:34 PM
I am sick of how black people in Africa use excuses for their laziness and corruption. The evil white man didn't rob your societies blind - your leaders did. That's your fault. The evil white people didn't throw their trash in your cities - you did and still do. That's your fault. Killing each other over stupid shit is not the evil white man's fault. The white man is not obligated to take care of you.
In the thousands of years of African history only one black civilization had great acomplishments - Nubia. No other have been found. That's 5000 years of history.
Why didn't the black man colonized Europe? Because he was busy eating the black man from another tribe, sеw his wife's vagina, etc barbaric rituals.
Everyone blames christianity, but it's a form of political control. Fact is - you are unable to govern yourself, and without the help of the UN, Unicef, Doctors without borders etc all African countries, incl. RSA which is hands down the strongest economy, would extinct. You have to stop using slavery as an excuse for everything. A large part of Europe was under slavery for 500 years and got free way after blacks in the US and Africa. And yet those countries are ages before you.

PS: Saying the truth isn't racism.

The nice thing about it is, you can grab your guns, and head off to Africa. There is so much freedom there, and so much poverty, that if you have a rifle and pistols (and a practical head on your shoulders), Black Africans will bow to your superiority. This isn't true everywhere, of course. And you need to watch out for dictators, and would-be dictators, but they are usually few and far between. The central countries of Africa are open to settle in, in many areas. Government there is nil in most places - Cameroon, Central African Republic, Mozambique, and others. And, the black population is friendly if you don't harm them except in self defense. In fact, they are quite open to fast justice in local, small ways.

Smiley
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December 27, 2014, 04:25:23 PM
I am sick of how black people in Africa use excuses for their laziness and corruption. The evil white man didn't rob your societies blind - your leaders did. That's your fault. The evil white people didn't throw their trash in your cities - you did and still do. That's your fault. Killing each other over stupid shit is not the evil white man's fault. The white man is not obligated to take care of you.
In the thousands of years of African history only one black civilization had great acomplishments - Nubia. No other have been found. That's 5000 years of history.
Why didn't the black man colonized Europe? Because he was busy eating the black man from another tribe, sеw his wife's vagina, etc barbaric rituals.
Everyone blames christianity, but it's a form of political control. Fact is - you are unable to govern yourself, and without the help of the UN, Unicef, Doctors without borders etc all African countries, incl. RSA which is hands down the strongest economy, would extinct. You have to stop using slavery as an excuse for everything. A large part of Europe was under slavery for 500 years and got free way after blacks in the US and Africa. And yet those countries are ages before you.

PS: Saying the truth isn't racism.
legendary
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December 27, 2014, 04:02:02 PM
Are you a racist?

Only idiots (and there are lot of them in this world) conflate "scientifically verified group differences" with "unjustified discrimination". Here is some reading material for your edumacation.

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=142

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6160

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=4278
Well, Jesus was black.....

Only where the sunlight didn't reach.   Grin
legendary
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December 27, 2014, 01:33:22 PM
Are you a racist?

Only idiots (and there are lot of them in this world) conflate "scientifically verified group differences" with "unjustified discrimination". Here is some reading material for your edumacation.

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=142

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6160

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=4278
Well, Jesus was black.....
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 1368
December 27, 2014, 12:16:51 PM
Evolution is not a theory. It has been proven wrong so many hundreds of times since its inception, that the only thing that keeps it in theory status is a bunch of people who are fighting against God by hoping that evolution might become a theory again. These people are hyping it so strongly that it seems to hold theory status.

All you need to do is read scientific papers, examining the evidence, not the conclusions of the authors. The evidences (which is often backed up by the authors' conclusions, though not always) show that there is no conclusive evidence for evolution that cannot be attributed at the same time to programmed-in changes do to climatic or environmental changes.

Peoples from climates with winters don't have narrower, more pointy noses to deal with the extremely cold air. Peoples from the hot tropic Savannas of Africa don't have more melanin in their skin to deal with the increased exposure to the sun's radiation.

Yeah evolution doesn't exist.

Define "evolution." The evolution I am talking about is a thing that supposedly took inanimate chemicals and turned them into the abundant life we see today. The fossil record shows that there were times in the past where life was way more abundant than it is today.

I would somewhat like scientists to develop a really plausible, working method whereby life could have potentially developed through evolution. The reason I would like this is that it would show how great God is... that He could develop us artificial intelligences that could actually formulate a way to evolve life into existence. Unfortunately, science hasn't done this yet.

Of course, this would only be a small starting point for proving evolution. Why? Because nobody can look into the past to see what happened. And there are still way too many unforeseeable variables that could have occurred over the millennia, to have even a clue whether life happened by evolution or not.

This is another point that defeats evolution as fact. The greater the time-span for evolution to develop into what we have today, the greater the chances that it would fail, simply because there would be more time for "failure" events to happen.

Now, if somebody invented a real, working time viewer...

Smiley
newbie
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December 27, 2014, 02:05:08 AM
Are you a racist?

Only idiots (and there are lot of them in this world) conflate "scientifically verified group differences" with "unjustified discrimination". Here is some reading material for your edumacation.

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=142

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6160

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=4278
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December 27, 2014, 01:52:40 AM
Hispanic-Black =)

Maybe you (white) guys can find some vacant plots in the neighborhood of the native-american reservations to make your own reservations Smiley.

im not white

OK. Then replace "you (white) guys" with "your (white) guys" and "make your own" with "make their own". Is this OK now Smiley?


No it's not ok. All people are alike. Better stop dividing them. This will not lead you anywhere. We all living on the same planet.

Their is a thing called subspecies you know that right?

What are you trying to say? Are you a racist?
newbie
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December 27, 2014, 01:33:35 AM
Evolution is not a theory. It has been proven wrong so many hundreds of times since its inception, that the only thing that keeps it in theory status is a bunch of people who are fighting against God by hoping that evolution might become a theory again. These people are hyping it so strongly that it seems to hold theory status.

All you need to do is read scientific papers, examining the evidence, not the conclusions of the authors. The evidences (which is often backed up by the authors' conclusions, though not always) show that there is no conclusive evidence for evolution that cannot be attributed at the same time to programmed-in changes do to climatic or environmental changes.

Peoples from climates with winters don't have narrower, more pointy noses to deal with the extremely cold air. Peoples from the hot tropic Savannas of Africa don't have more melanin in their skin to deal with the increased exposure to the sun's radiation.

Yeah evolution doesn't exist.
full member
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December 26, 2014, 11:01:33 PM
its becoz they build houses from poo and sticks.
Ah, like houses in the central Great Plains of the USA were built, in the 19th century?

I guess his point is they still do while people in the great plains used different materials as they were more viable from the influx of more colonist.
legendary
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December 26, 2014, 10:58:28 PM

Since over 6 years there is not one single test that shows that mms works.
there are only blogs and websites talking about millions of cured people ( children included).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KwSxdN2JIs

Smiley
legendary
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December 26, 2014, 10:51:29 PM
Something interesting:

The creator of mms was a scientologist for 25 years. He now also created the genesis 2 church of health and healing. He calls himself archbishop humble.

The dose of dioxin chlorit in mms is thousands of times higher then the maximum legal dose for water purification in the us (even more in europe, because we have higher standards)

Since over 6 years there is not one single test that shows that mms works.
there are only blogs and websites talking about millions of cured people ( children included).

You guys are following a pied piper in a deep abyss.
just please dont feed your kids with it.

Yes, these ideas are crazy enough to warrant criminal charges.

Since clorine dioxin is something that rapidly decomposes and is a gaseous product, I am not even certain how it could be considered to exist and have effects within a living biological organism by the injestion of something. 

The two chemicals from which it is derived couldn't exist in sufficient concentration in the tissue or bloodstream to yield Cl02.

legendary
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December 26, 2014, 10:37:41 PM
its becoz they build houses from poo and sticks.
Ah, like houses in the central Great Plains of the USA were built, in the 19th century?
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December 26, 2014, 08:20:23 PM
No it's not ok. All people are alike. Better stop dividing them. This will not lead you anywhere. We all living on the same planet.
Their is a thing called subspecies you know that right?

Good luck trying to find a good definition of 'subspecies'

 a category in biological classification that ranks immediately below a species and designates a population of a particular geographic region genetically distinguishable from other such populations of the same species and capable of interbreeding successfully with them where its range overlaps theirs
 
  a named subdivision (as a race or variety) of a taxonomic species
 
"a population of a particular geographic region genetically distinguishable from other such populations"?
That would mean 3 subspecies: 'sub-sahara-african', 'east asian' and 'european'.
The 'overlap' is kind of big. Where do you draw the line?


Everyone is human the subspecies part though is in their race/ethnicity so they all can produce offspring that are fertile but their race or ethnicity may differ.
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December 26, 2014, 08:18:44 PM
No it's not ok. All people are alike. Better stop dividing them. This will not lead you anywhere. We all living on the same planet.
Their is a thing called subspecies you know that right?

Good luck trying to find a good definition of 'subspecies'

 a category in biological classification that ranks immediately below a species and designates a population of a particular geographic region genetically distinguishable from other such populations of the same species and capable of interbreeding successfully with them where its range overlaps theirs
 
  a named subdivision (as a race or variety) of a taxonomic species
 
"a population of a particular geographic region genetically distinguishable from other such populations"?
That would mean 3 subspecies: 'sub-sahara-african', 'east asian' and 'european'.
The 'overlap' is kind of big. Where do you draw the line?

these guys all think Africa is like, a country or something

I never said it was.
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