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April 26, 2013, 07:13:25 AM
#72
Jewy Jews


That phrase made me smile.



But much more people think that jews are behind sinister plans to enslave world.

Truth is not democratic, just because lots of people believe something, doesn't make it true. Lots of people used to believe the world was flat
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April 26, 2013, 05:39:40 AM
#71
I don't know what you mean by "acceptable".

Just because the forum moderators don't delete certain posts doesn't mean that they approve of them.

I don't think that the majority of users on this forum find antisemitism acceptable. There are a handful of antisemitic conspiracy theorist nutters here.  The more extreme ones have already been banned, not for "hate speech" but for trolling and repeated off-topic posting.
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April 25, 2013, 10:28:27 PM
#70
Bigot actually means someone of a view that is unchangeable - ironically, a very good description of the person who usually uses the term bigot in the first place!
Just putting this out there...
Seems to me that there are a number of key terms used by some people to shut down an argument they can't deal with.

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Three is the worst, as it involves being called a Bigot!
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April 25, 2013, 09:34:39 PM
#69
So many groups setup for one particular group to punish people for disagreeing....

What up with that?
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April 25, 2013, 09:18:50 PM
#68


The anti-semites and the conspiracy nuts overlap in a big way.  At least you don't have either delusion Smiley 

^^^^^Bigot Alert^^^^

You should learn to tolerate other peoples opinions you big Nazi!

You should learn to tolerate other peoples' opinions too.  God bless you!
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April 25, 2013, 09:17:05 PM
#67
It seems there is a lot of antisemitism on this forum and I'm curious as to why it's acceptable, whereas other forms of racism are not.
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I have no problem with criticism of Israel or Zionism.
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What i do resent is the idea that as a Jew I'm part of some grand conspiracy to run the world. I assure you I'm not.

You can't directly compare racism to antisemitism.  Skin color and biological prejudice are fairly clear cut, compared to the murky complexities of 'who's a Jew.'

The term 'Jew' can connote biology (genetic Jews), ethnicity (semetic Jews), religion (fundy Jews), politics (Zionist Jews), and culture (Jewy Jews).

Sometimes this slippery ambiguity is cynically exploited and used to avoid scrutiny or derail uncomfortable conversations by digressing into the semantics of Semitism.

Furthermore, Jews (unlike all other minorities) are hyper-represented in the (non-military) institutions of power: technology, government, finance, law, education, media, medicine, entertainment, etc.

Understandably, this often results in jealously, leading to resentment and fear:

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"If Kagan is confirmed, Jews, who represent less than 2 percent of the U.S. population, will have 33 percent of the Supreme Court seats," former presidential candidate Pat Buchanan gripes.

My advice is to not take the nasty things people say personally.  When people talk about "the white man" keeping them down, I understand they mean the WASP elites, not Joe Sixpack or me.

Full disclosure:  I'm not any sort of Jew but do tend to like their women, who also often like me.  Two reasons: Christian girls usually think I'm the antichrist, and my brainy bohemian worldview reminds them of their fathers.   Wink
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April 25, 2013, 08:49:05 PM
#66
Antisemetism is acceptable because the JIDF exists. There needs to be a ying to the yang. Can't let those forum spies get off easy. (I have never posted antisemetism.)
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April 25, 2013, 08:33:43 PM
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What i do resent is the idea that as a Jew I'm part of some grand conspiracy to run the world. I assure you I'm not. Just because you have a dislike of a Jew or some Jews, it's ridiculous to the whole race with the same label.
It'd be like arguing that all white people are racists, all black people are criminals and all Hispanics hopped the border into the US.

One thing I don't understand is why Jewish people are referred to as a race? Judaism is the religion and 'Hebrews' are the race.

Also, not all Jews are Semitic (Akkadians [Assyrians and Babylonians], Ugarites, Canaanites, Phoenicians, Hebrews [Israelites, Judeans and Samaritans], Ahlamu, Arameans, Chaldeans, Nabateans, Maganites, Shebans, Sutu, Bahranis, Maltese, Mandaeans, Sabians, Syriacs, Mhallami, Amalekites, Arabs, etc.) and most Semites are not Jews.
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April 25, 2013, 07:51:20 PM
#64
Let me be clear, i don't consider anti Israel or anti Zionist sentiments to be anti Semitic.
It's good you make that distinction.
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There can be such a thing as a "Caucasian Hispanic;" ∴, "Hispanic" is not a race.
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April 25, 2013, 07:43:59 PM
#63
Sticks and stones...
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April 25, 2013, 07:37:45 PM
#62
I live in Canada and hate speech is not acceptable here. If you are the victim of hate speech or any type of discrimination then you launch a complaint with the human rights commission and your case will be taken on free of charge. The perpetrator will need deep pockets to defend themselves and could go to prison.

3 years ago Ann Coulter was told to mind what she says while in Ottawa, lest she be arrested for criminal speech. Here is an article with her response: http://oncampus.macleans.ca/education/2010/03/23/ann-coulter-responds/

She threated to launch a complaint with the Human Rights Commission saying we were being hateful towards Conservatives. I don't think her complaint got very far. None-the-less we managed to shut Ann Coulter up.  Grin

Terrible.  Freedom of speech; wait, no, except the stuff we don't like.  But besides everything you can't say, you can say anything.  Tongue
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April 25, 2013, 07:31:27 PM
#61
I live in Canada and hate speech is not acceptable here. If you are the victim of hate speech or any type of discrimination then you launch a complaint with the human rights commission and your case will be taken on free of charge. The perpetrator will need deep pockets to defend themselves and could go to prison.

3 years ago Ann Coulter was told to mind what she says while in Ottawa, lest she be arrested for criminal speech. Here is an article with her response: http://oncampus.macleans.ca/education/2010/03/23/ann-coulter-responds/

She threated to launch a complaint with the Human Rights Commission saying we were being hateful towards Conservatives. I don't think her complaint got very far. None-the-less we managed to shut Ann Coulter up.  Grin
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April 25, 2013, 06:37:54 PM
#60
Well, MysteryMiner, it's possible that you're not part of some world-spanning conspiracy to overthrow all the world governments and institute total world domination, but I guess we'd better kill you just to be sure, huh?
You can try. The problem is that few people consider mystery miners to be part of conspiracy to take over world. But much more people think that jews are behind sinister plans to enslave world. Even some governments recognize zionists and western world governments as a conspirators to create one world government. There will be much more jew shooters than MM shooters.
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April 25, 2013, 06:32:21 PM
#59
Well, MysteryMiner, it's possible that you're not part of some world-spanning conspiracy to overthrow all the world governments and institute total world domination, but I guess we'd better kill you just to be sure, huh?
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April 25, 2013, 06:27:05 PM
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Why is antisemetism acceptable
Because it is the right attitude against jews. And it is a patriotic thing.
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Let me be clear, i don't consider anti Israel or anti Zionist sentiments to be anti Semitic. I think Israel acts like a dick a lot of the time and i feel that the religious right in Israel has far too much powers. I have no problem with criticism of Israel or Zionism.
In my country criticism of israel's politics are antisemitism. So You are antisemitic too if You don't like the war crimes of israel. Isn't it funny?
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What i do resent is the idea that as a Jew I'm part of some grand conspiracy to run the world. I assure you I'm not.
It is most likely You are not part of conspiracy. But how can I be sure about that? I'm confident that some conspiracy is underway, and also I'm quite sure that jews are central figures in it. What should I do? What if some zionist conspirator slips away from punishment by pretending to be innocent?
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Just because you have a dislike of a Jew or some Jews, it's ridiculous to the whole race with the same label.
There is a thing called collective responsibility. Most jews are very united to their kind and few of them openly condemn the ideology and actions of other jews.
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April 25, 2013, 04:33:28 PM
#57
It seems there is a lot of antisemitism on this forum and I'm curious as to why it's acceptable, whereas other forms of racism are not.
In order to give full disclosure, let me say that i am a secular Jew.
Let me be clear, i don't consider anti Israel or anti Zionist sentiments to be anti Semitic. I think Israel acts like a dick a lot of the time and i feel that the religious right in Israel has far too much powers. I have no problem with criticism of Israel or Zionism.

What i do resent is the idea that as a Jew I'm part of some grand conspiracy to run the world. I assure you I'm not. Just because you have a dislike of a Jew or some Jews, it's ridiculous to the whole race with the same label.
It'd be like arguing that all white people are racists, all black people are criminals and all Hispanics hopped the border into the US.



Folks are envious of a successful business culture. The Jewish people have maintained their culture for thousands of years. To their credit.
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April 25, 2013, 04:18:11 PM
#56
I'm reporting this thread for improper BBCode speech.
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April 25, 2013, 04:17:13 PM
#55
bonker - apart from being unable to state your beliefs without running off saying you were actually only being sarcastic, you are breaking the html when you edit quotes.

As a tip, make sure that every [tag] is matched with a [/tag].
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April 25, 2013, 04:12:02 PM
#54

Be a big boy.  If you say something stupid, own up to it.  This whole "sarcasm - I didn't mean it - let's be buddies" thing is sad.

Are you autistic? Did they lock you in the server room gimp-style several years ago?

You've failed to grasp even the most basic string of logical statements. Re-read this thread, think about it whilst popping a couple of boxes of Ritalin then try and think of a coherent comeback.


More sarcasm?  Oh come on - man up and say what you think.

No, you've mis-read again, bonehead, that was an insult.
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April 25, 2013, 04:07:56 PM
#53

Be a big boy.  If you say something stupid, own up to it.  This whole "sarcasm - I didn't mean it - let's be buddies" thing is sad.

Are you autistic? Did they lock you in the server room gimp-style several years ago?

You've failed to grasp even the most basic string of logical statements. Re-read this thread, think about it whilst popping a couple of boxes of Ritalin then try and think of a coherent comeback.


More sarcasm?  Oh come on - man up and say what you think.
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