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Quote from: Jaycoinz on November 22, 2024, 02:19:07 PM

I don't think horse racing is one of them. How are you sure who the best athlete is? Are wins determined by the skillfullness of the athlete or the stamina and strength of the horses? ~~This game still remains a mystery to a lot of gamblers.~~

There is probably no sport in this world that has much stats on stamina, on form and on combinations other than horse racing, first, all horses have a rating that depends on what type of race they participate in, but don't the distance. Then you have all kind of forms factors, for example random horse:
https://www.timeform.com/horse-racing/horse-form/alfa-whiteburd/000000586288
https://www.attheraces.com/form/horse/Alfa-Whiteburd/IRE/3523057

You have his ratings on slow, on fast ground, on grass or Polytrack, over what distance over the going, what type of horses and over what distance his parents and siblings are, and many more. No, timeform for football players is peanuts compared to how a horse is rated.

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Quote from: Jaycoinz on November 22, 2024, 02:19:07 PM

A lot of people find it uninteresting especially when they are trying to pick the sports to bet on, a lot of gamblers would rather stick to football, basketball, volleyball and ice hokey. Sports betting can be very unpredictable sometimes but there are certain games that can be studied and profitable, I don't think horse racing is one of them. How are you sure who the best athlete is? Are wins determined by the skillfullness of the athlete or the stamina and strength of the horses? This game still remains a mystery to a lot of gamblers.

For as far as I've been into gambling and sports betting in particular, I have never been moved or had any zeal to try to bet on horse race, with this dog race, and this two are actually popular here in my country though it's in some parts of the country..
I have never seen any reason to bet on animal sports, not when there are alot of human participation sports to bet on, the exact reason why some people pick interest in betting on animal sports is something I do not understand, or maybe it's like my friend who constantly bet on horse and dog race once told me, that not everyone's luck in on humans sports, that some people are destined to only win when they bet on animal sports.

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Quote from: mindrust on November 22, 2024, 01:51:34 PM

Horse racing is huge in my country. People make bets on horses all the time here. I have some family members that are fans of horse racing. I guess the popularity of horse racing is different in every country. Horse racing is popular here but I don't think even 1% of the country's population knows what "cricket" is. I know it is one of the most popular game across the globe but here it is. Ask 1000 people here, only 10 will know which game you are talking about.

Somehow horse racing is not popular in this forum though.

It's because there are no platform to bet online with horse racing. Here in the Philippines, it's been a love and hate relationship with horse racing. There were decades that it become famous, together with a game, Jai-Alai, for sure Spanish members here know what kind of game it is. But when the former President Duterte took over, their was a crackdown on illegal horse betting and so the sports had somewhat died down and then pandemic strikes.

I still do watch some of the highlights in Youtube and some of our friends try to revied our liking with horse racing. We have even scheduled that we will go on the horse track itself and see the race live and definitely put some bet on it. But it will take some time again as we have to familiarized ourselves with the horses and the jockeys. And we are not shock that some of the apprentice jockeys we've known turn out to be a good Class A jockeys now.

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Quote from: mindrust on November 22, 2024, 01:51:34 PM

Horse racing is huge in my country. People make bets on horses all the time here. I have some family members that are fans of horse racing. I guess the popularity of horse racing is different in every country. Horse racing is popular here but I don't think even 1% of the country's population knows what "cricket" is. I know it is one of the most popular game across the globe but here it is. Ask 1000 people here, only 10 will know which game you are talking about.

Somehow horse racing is not popular in this forum though.

Totally really that depends on a certain country on which we know that there are really certain sports on which it is really that popular on their locality but arent that too known in world wide.
Horse racing is indeed that known but its true that when it comes into this forum then we do usually read up Football and Basketball and Boxing will really be the ones that being discussed on here.
It wont really be that much of an issue though yet interest and recognition will really be just that depending on the location. I do also have that impression that Horse racing is something that being known or popular into those rich people who do make out some huge bets with this one. Well, this is really just that my assumption.

Taking up some good read up on this link in regarding about horse betting/sport is really that only for elite people.
https://www.upscalelivingmag.com/luxury-lifestyle-of-the-elite/is-horse-racing-still-considered-an-elitist-sport/

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A lot of people find it uninteresting especially when they are trying to pick the sports to bet on, a lot of gamblers would rather stick to football, basketball, volleyball and ice hokey. Sports betting can be very unpredictable sometimes but there are certain games that can be studied and profitable, I don't think horse racing is one of them. How are you sure who the best athlete is? Are wins determined by the skillfullness of the athlete or the stamina and strength of the horses? This game still remains a mystery to a lot of gamblers.

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Quote from: viljy on November 22, 2024, 01:37:02 PM

Where did more than a billion people come from in one year? Why all of a sudden? Why horses? This is a very strange statistic. A billion people is a lot. This is more than the population of the United States and Europe combined. From a baby to an old man. Did they all suddenly start watching horse racing? Or did the whole of India or the whole of China suddenly become horse fans in one year? All this is very doubtful.

It's not a single race one time of the year, there are multiple events during one, that's why there is the chance of someone actually watching a race, adn the numbers are there definitely, Hong Jong is definitely having a year with Sha Tin flooded by chinese spectators:
https://www.scmp.com/sport/hong-kong/article/3277692/hong-kong-racing-season-flying-start-best-opening-day-pandemic-struck
Kentucky broke record views:
https://www.espn.com/horse-racing/story/_/id/40091361/kentucky-derby-draws-167m-viewers-most-1989

Also, the countries that host grade 1 races are USA, Canada, UK, France, Japan, BRA, HK, AUS, SAF, USA, RSA, the countries that host your typical lower grade race, well, that's a lot more. This is just what's available for betting tomorrow:

That's why I'm saying people here live in some sort of bubble where only football and basketball are played!
As for why suddenly the increase it's pretty simple, streaming, before 2016, for example, I couldn't even watch a horse race in the US being in Europe, there was simply no TV channel with a license!

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Quote from: mindrust on November 22, 2024, 01:51:34 PM

Horse racing is huge in my country. People make bets on horses all the time here. I have some family members that are fans of horse racing. I guess the popularity of horse racing is different in every country. Horse racing is popular here but I don't think even 1% of the country's population knows what "cricket" is. I know it is one of the most popular game across the globe but here it is. Ask 1000 people here, only 10 will know which game you are talking about.

Somehow horse racing is not popular in this forum though.

This might be a good game to bet on in your country but many gamblers do not know much about it. It's a good sport to try some luck but sometimes when you don't have idea about a particular sport/games, even though one can quickly make fast profits from it, we can still be skeptical about going for such a bet because our winning is not guaranteed. I don't bet on games or sports I am not familiar with because I am not ready to lose money in gambling without knowing what I'm doing. Horse racing is a good game and can be profitable for those that are lovers but can be unprofitable for those that don't have knowledge about how to bet on it successfully.

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Horse racing is huge in my country. People make bets on horses all the time here. I have some family members that are fans of horse racing. I guess the popularity of horse racing is different in every country. Horse racing is popular here but I don't think even 1% of the country's population knows what "cricket" is. I know it is one of the most popular game across the globe but here it is. Ask 1000 people here, only 10 will know which game you are talking about.

Somehow horse racing is not popular in this forum though.

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Quote from: viljy on November 22, 2024, 03:00:54 AM

All this directly affects the popularity of horse racing. They have their own small circle of fans and adherents, but there will be no mass popularity anymore. Horse racing has long been replaced by racing, for example, Formula 1. There is a multi-million audience that bets.

That's not what statistics say:

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It's estimated that 1.45 billion people worldwide watched or bet on horse racing in 2020

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According to the source, the global audience for Formula One in 2021 stood at 445 million viewers, an increase of roughly three percent from the previous year.

I doubt this figure of 1.45 billion. Either this is a distortion, or it is a mistake that has been replicated by the rest of the media. Let's think logically. The full quote looks like this:
"It's estimated that 1.45 billion people worldwide watched or bet on horse racing in 2020. That's a massive increase from 365 million viewers and betters at the same point in 2019."
Where did more than a billion people come from in one year? Why all of a sudden? Why horses? This is a very strange statistic. A billion people is a lot. This is more than the population of the United States and Europe combined. From a baby to an old man. Did they all suddenly start watching horse racing? Or did the whole of India or the whole of China suddenly become horse fans in one year? All this is very doubtful.

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Quote from: stompix on September 02, 2023, 09:15:26 AM

Let's keep this as simple as possible and let's not shitpost!

I see thousands of posts about football, a few hundred about other sports, and the rest are just almost non-existent. I'm a gambler myself but I stopped a while ago betting on soccer, all the Nxx in American sports and I'm just betting now and then on horse racing, from one penny at a time to some larger sums in case of a grade 1 event or festival.
But here it seems like there is little interest in this, is that because horse racing is just unpopular or is it because, well,.... the casinos that sponsor most signatures here are not promoting it? So no post quota to make? Grin

My old local gambling forum that covered this is also near death, I'm sitting in the sun 8 hours a day boring myself to death, so here comes feedback next part :

- Is anyone here actually gambling on horse racing?

The fact is there are some sports that are not as followed like most popular sports like football, tennis and athletic and horse racing happens to be one of it even though it's a nice sports but due to lack of horse racing field and horse in most countries it's not that popular among many sports followers I think creating of more horse racing championship is going to help the situation and in most countries there's no horse racing federation that is why your seeing less concerned from people concerning horse racing

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Quote from: viljy on November 22, 2024, 03:00:54 AM

Horses have already lost the place in the life of mankind that they used to occupy. Many modern people have never seen a live horse in their lives. No one understands horses anymore. All this directly affects the popularity of horse racing. They have their own small circle of fans and adherents, but there will be no mass popularity anymore. Horse racing has long been replaced by racing, for example, Formula 1. There is a multi-million audience that bets.

A lot of millennials and Gen-Z's who are into betting haven't seen a live horse racing event before. I haven't seen one before either; I've only seen it in movies. Also, it's not as popular as other sports betting, the popularity goes to football betting, casino games, and the likes. People tend to bet on what they know and understand, most people don't understand horse racing or how horse betting works.

On the other hand, sports betting is more straightforward, and it seems that only older generations attend horse racing events. That's why I'm not surprised that online forums including bitcoin talk form are dominated by discussions on sports betting, gambling, and other popular sports that can be easily streamed on phones. Horse racing live streams are less common, so it's not that popular among younger generations.

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Quote from: dansus021 on November 22, 2024, 06:37:32 AM

Why is horse racing so unpopular here and a bit of extra feedback

This is based on my opinion and here in Indonesia horse racing is not really popular and maybe there is one or two couple rich guys that play horse racing, but there will another question like you can still bet in other country right? Yes but I believe there is no much going on in the horse racing In my opinion the horse racing is not popular like other sport ex. badmintoon soccer basketball and etc.

Well, and just like that I don't know a single guy or girl that plays badminton here! Wink

How many people in the east and south and north and well the whole of Europe minus UK play cricket?
And how many people in Asia and South America play hockey?

Quote from: viljy on November 22, 2024, 03:00:54 AM

All this directly affects the popularity of horse racing. They have their own small circle of fans and adherents, but there will be no mass popularity anymore. Horse racing has long been replaced by racing, for example, Formula 1. There is a multi-million audience that bets.

That's not what statistics say:

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It's estimated that 1.45 billion people worldwide watched or bet on horse racing in 2020

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According to the source, the global audience for Formula One in 2021 stood at 445 million viewers, an increase of roughly three percent from the previous year.

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Why is horse racing so unpopular here and a bit of extra feedback

This is based on my opinion and here in Indonesia horse racing is not really popular and maybe there is one or two couple rich guys that play horse racing, but there will another question like you can still bet in other country right? Yes but I believe there is no much going on in the horse racing In my opinion the horse racing is not popular like other sport ex. badmintoon soccer basketball and etc.

For me Horse racing is considered as a luxury sport a group with polo and golf so only internal people get really access to see or bet

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Quote from: viljy on November 22, 2024, 03:00:54 AM

Horses have already lost the place in the life of mankind that they used to occupy. Many modern people have never seen a live horse in their lives. No one understands horses anymore. All this directly affects the popularity of horse racing. They have their own small circle of fans and adherents, but there will be no mass popularity anymore. Horse racing has long been replaced by racing, for example, Formula 1. There is a multi-million audience that bets.

What do you mean? There are still a a lot of countries that are still in the horse racing, from Asia to Middle East and I doubt that it will be simply forgotten. It might not be a popular as other games, but I still do think that there are many offline gamblers that are betting on it.

And again, still very famous as most of the horse owners are very rich specially in the Middle East. And if I'm not mistaken, owning one is already a privilege and horse racing fans view you differently as an elite and super wealthy individuals and this is considered sports of the kings.

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Quote from: viljy on November 22, 2024, 03:00:54 AM

Horses have already lost the place in the life of mankind that they used to occupy. Many modern people have never seen a live horse in their lives. No one understands horses anymore. All this directly affects the popularity of horse racing. They have their own small circle of fans and adherents, but there will be no mass popularity anymore. Horse racing has long been replaced by racing, for example, Formula 1. There is a multi-million audience that bets.

What you are saying is very true, because I think the gambling that happens in horse racing is no different from people who bet on cricket, which the game has a very limited number of enthusiasts and maybe not everyone will understand the rules and also the methods in betting on that the sport, besides that the change in the popularity of horse racing has reflected a big change in gambling, technology and and many easier gambling options are emerging have changed the way we look and interact with horses sport , so that horse racing, which was once the main pastime and the base of gambling, now nothing more than a special sport with loyal fans and most of them are rich and old.

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Horses have already lost the place in the life of mankind that they used to occupy. Many modern people have never seen a live horse in their lives. No one understands horses anymore. All this directly affects the popularity of horse racing. They have their own small circle of fans and adherents, but there will be no mass popularity anymore. Horse racing has long been replaced by racing, for example, Formula 1. There is a multi-million audience that bets.

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Quote from: Kelward on November 21, 2024, 09:17:30 AM

The reason that I believe horse racing is not popular is because it's not a game that people play on the streets, it's not everybody that can afford to have a stable and begin to train horses for sports. I might be wrong but I feel that it's a game that is reserved for only professionals, unlike games like football, basketball, tennis and many more that ordinary people can play in their neighborhood.

Formula 1 is pretty popular and no chance in hell you would be able to afford a formula 1 car even if you can afford 10 horses and a stable, not to mention that it will cost you one year of horsefeed to rent a circuit for one hour a month to practice. And what about boxing, is that popular because of affordability also? Wink

Quote from: justdimin on November 21, 2024, 08:21:29 AM

Because real horse racing doesn't get that much attention, too few people spread all around the world that looks at it, so it is not really that interesting for anyone to focus on just one place.

There is a clear divide which I highlighted in the first post, the popularity of horse racing on this forum, which is null and the popularity of it in the real world and in gambling, for example, in 3 days it's the Japan Cup, $3.5 million for the winner in just one race winner, total pot of over 10 million, 100k people in attendance.
That's why I'm asking why the difference.

Actually, I remembered and found this topic, which the respected OP once kindly decided to open, because he accidentally saw the TV broadcast of these competitions.

And I realized that of course here on the technology forum there are too few who are really up to date with horse racing. However, it is true that there are many fans of this type of competition in the world.
And it would be right, in my opinion, if OP periodically wrote some new information on upcoming competitions. Sometimes it is interesting to get distracted from the usual casino games or endless bets on football. And see what interesting things are happening in the world of other competitions.

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Quote from: Kelward on November 21, 2024, 09:17:30 AM

The reason that I believe horse racing is not popular is because it's not a game that people play on the streets, it's not everybody that can afford to have a stable and begin to train horses for sports. I might be wrong but I feel that it's a game that is reserved for only professionals, unlike games like football, basketball, tennis and many more that ordinary people can play in their neighborhood.

Formula 1 is pretty popular and no chance in hell you would be able to afford a formula 1 car even if you can afford 10 horses and a stable, not to mention that it will cost you one year of horsefeed to rent a circuit for one hour a month to practice. And what about boxing, is that popular because of affordability also? Wink

Quote from: justdimin on November 21, 2024, 08:21:29 AM

Because real horse racing doesn't get that much attention, too few people spread all around the world that looks at it, so it is not really that interesting for anyone to focus on just one place.

There is a clear divide which I highlighted in the first post, the popularity of horse racing on this forum, which is null and the popularity of it in the real world and in gambling, for example, in 3 days it's the Japan Cup, $3.5 million for the winner in just one race winner, total pot of over 10 million, 100k people in attendance.
That's why I'm asking why the difference.

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Quote from: delfastTions on January 24, 2024, 02:57:58 AM

Somehow I find it hard to believe that among the tens of thousands of users of our forum there is no one who is not interested in and does not follow horse racing and the corresponding schedules of these competitions.
Of course, the profile of our technology forum is quite far from the issues of sports competitions, and even more so those related to animals, such as horse racing or, for example, camel racing, as happens in the Middle Eastern countries. Nevertheless, this topic would still be worth continuing and expressing some news from the world of horse racing, simply because for many it broadens their horizons and in general these are interesting competitions, by the way, in which the betting represents a rather interesting development of events at these races. And yet, these are traditional competitions. And many people respect traditions.

So OP should probably continue to post some important information about horse racing here.

The reason that I believe horse racing is not popular is because it's not a game that people play on the streets, it's not everybody that can afford to have a stable and begin to train horses for sports. I might be wrong but I feel that it's a game that is reserved for only professionals, unlike games like football, basketball, tennis and many more that ordinary people can play in their neighborhood. Another reason I see is that many people don't pay too much attention to animal sports, they prefer sports that are played by fellow humans. Lastly I don't think that there is enough awareness for sports like horse racing, unlike football and all the other popular sports, so if the organizers can have sponsors that will advertise and promote it massively to a global audience, I believe that more people will have interest in horse racing and bet on them.

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Quote from: FanEagle on November 29, 2023, 03:33:35 PM

As someone who has been interested in horse racing from the owner part of things (I am not a horse owner, I just spent time with some of them) I can tell you that it hasn't been all that interesting any part of the world. The recent era of humanity has realized that this is something that is not good for the horses, I mean just the idea that horses are whipped is clear enough that we are talking about something that hurts them.

You may consider that they are taken care of better than any other horse, but to be fair the horses are taken care of based on the owner, not the situation, even the greatest horse could be taken care of terribly if the owner is a bad human, and the worst horse could be taken care of as kings if the owner is a good human. So with humanity evolving, you may disagree with this idea, but there are more and more opposition to horse racing, and it was never at some football or basketball or tennis level even before, and definitely even worse now.

There are crypto games about horse racing, people are not realizing how popular those are, but we have millions and millions of dollars going into those, I remember ZED racing was a thing, and now Photofinish ends up being the crown jewel (yes pun intended lol) and that is something that you need to look into if you want to be in the crypto world and be interested in horse racing.

Because real horse racing doesn't get that much attention, too few people spread all around the world that looks at it, so it is not really that interesting for anyone to focus on just one place. Whereas, crypto isn't like that and we are seeing way too many people end up being interested in these "play2earn" type of games and you could get in with just few dollars and make hundreds of dollars there without a doubt. And making hundreds of dollars a month, from a virtual racing game, is something a lot of horse racing people would love to do and I would suggest checking them out.

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