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As for me I think the parents owe the children nothing to explain to them as long as they never let the vacuum of their responsibilities in training the children remain void, when your children never have access to gambling or where they do such then you owe them no explanation, parents have their own part they play from their children way of upbringings, they must not engage doing things that we will not be aware of which may affect them in life the wrong way.

Parenting comes with a lot of work and educating the child on the danger of some action goes a long way to saving the child in the future when they are no longer with their parents, and it doesn't necessarily need that the child is exposed to it before you give them the awareness on the dangers available in the society and how to handle them.
I use my personal experience to check this thing, when I was young, my parents use to tell me real-life stories and sometimes we had both the good the bad and the ugly so those lessons thought us how to handle some in our real life.
Gambling lessons should be thought to young kids so that that knowledge will help to guide their actions when they grow up.

We need to safe ourselves from future challenges by avoiding our children get exposed to gambling right from onset, children are not yet responsible for their school fees payment, neither do they have other responsibilities attached to them to take care of which need financial aid, their time is needed to be invested on their education and learn about other careers in life than getting too exposed to gambling at their early stage.

I agree with you on the need for education and growth in the kids before any adulthood exposure because gambling is for responsible adults who knows how to make a decision and take responsibility for those decisions, kids need to build their basic foundation and avoid any possible distraction because gambling to an underaged is an abused and this can lead to uncontrollable addictions.

But if a child has grown to some level and can handle the responsibility, and that is why regulators always specify an age limit of 18🚫 years.

A child should not be near games of chance and casinos, because they have no control, they are looking for it is just a game, you cannot leave a responsibility for gambling when you risk real money, things are clear here, when they are fulfilled 18 years is the normal age for anyone to be able to do what they want, because everything is under a total responsibility scheme, and what happens from then on and that they do wrong can even be punished by jail, so it is better to do things well so that there are no problems, that's why children should have their own games away from casinos.

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Quote from: Unsoldier on June 28, 2023, 12:37:06 PM

As for me I think the parents owe the children nothing to explain to them as long as they never let the vacuum of their responsibilities in training the children remain void, when your children never have access to gambling or where they do such then you owe them no explanation, parents have their own part they play from their children way of upbringings, they must not engage doing things that we will not be aware of which may affect them in life the wrong way.

Parenting comes with a lot of work and educating the child on the danger of some action goes a long way to saving the child in the future when they are no longer with their parents, and it doesn't necessarily need that the child is exposed to it before you give them the awareness on the dangers available in the society and how to handle them.
I use my personal experience to check this thing, when I was young, my parents use to tell me real-life stories and sometimes we had both the good the bad and the ugly so those lessons thought us how to handle some in our real life.
Gambling lessons should be thought to young kids so that that knowledge will help to guide their actions when they grow up.

We need to safe ourselves from future challenges by avoiding our children get exposed to gambling right from onset, children are not yet responsible for their school fees payment, neither do they have other responsibilities attached to them to take care of which need financial aid, their time is needed to be invested on their education and learn about other careers in life than getting too exposed to gambling at their early stage.

I agree with you on the need for education and growth in the kids before any adulthood exposure because gambling is for responsible adults who knows how to make a decision and take responsibility for those decisions, kids need to build their basic foundation and avoid any possible distraction because gambling to an underaged is an abused and this can lead to uncontrollable addictions.

But if a child has grown to some level and can handle the responsibility, and that is why regulators always specify an age limit of 18🚫 years.

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Quote from: BenCodie on June 28, 2023, 05:32:17 AM

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I still don't believe in the "entertainment" aspect. There's so many things you can do that is truly entertaining for what is much less of the cost. To an extent you can have occasional fun with gambling, but if it's often, it's beyond entertainment.

Maybe it's better to say gamble for fun only? Let's take it this way since I don't know the definition of entertainment. I am quoting you because I also posted that people should take gambling as entertainment in this thread. Let's say gambling is for fun. But when it comes to spending real money, and you are addicted to the "Fun," you have to stop there because you don't know how much you will lose until you end up busted.

Well, addiction to the fun is kind of the point in me not believing in it being for fun. At what point does it stop being fun? And do you think that people stop when it stops being fun, or until their wallet is empty? I think more often than not, it's the latter.

Gambling stops being fun when it begins to negatively affect a gambler's life, health or relationships.Financial resources can also become a negative factor. I think it can be useful to do some introspection for yourself and determine how important gambling is to your happiness and how well it aligns with your values.

Gambling is just a fun activity, and it will remain a fun activity, and like drugs and alcohol, those who abuse gambling will become addicted and suffer the consequences.

One thing I've always believe in is that, no body is destined to be a gambler, and there is no way I expect gambling to align with out values, even a the value of the poorest man should be way higher than gambling, gambling is always a side hustle and shouldnt be depended on as a major means of livelihood.

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Quote from: BenCodie on June 28, 2023, 05:32:17 AM

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I still don't believe in the "entertainment" aspect. There's so many things you can do that is truly entertaining for what is much less of the cost. To an extent you can have occasional fun with gambling, but if it's often, it's beyond entertainment.

Maybe it's better to say gamble for fun only? Let's take it this way since I don't know the definition of entertainment. I am quoting you because I also posted that people should take gambling as entertainment in this thread. Let's say gambling is for fun. But when it comes to spending real money, and you are addicted to the "Fun," you have to stop there because you don't know how much you will lose until you end up busted.

Well, addiction to the fun is kind of the point in me not believing in it being for fun. At what point does it stop being fun? And do you think that people stop when it stops being fun, or until their wallet is empty? I think more often than not, it's the latter.

Gambling stops being fun when it begins to negatively affect a gambler's life, health or relationships.Financial resources can also become a negative factor. I think it can be useful to do some introspection for yourself and determine how important gambling is to your happiness and how well it aligns with your values.

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Quote from: demonica on June 28, 2023, 05:57:59 AM

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Quote from: Flexystar on June 26, 2023, 01:31:52 PM

It’s bit much to say that those are real allegations. I think what we need to understand is gambling and how it’s connected with people. Most of the people are here by choices. Some of them love gambling because they are real with it, they sometimes make it their job, a way to income source and much more. While some of them are just playing for fun and there is no real deal with such people. They won’t care if they are profiting or not. They neither look for recovering their losses and much more. While on the other hand there comes people that you describe who are getting on the wrong foot all the time. I think they are none of the above. They are chaser and gambling isn’t about it.

Those who chase their losses are actually the ones who take gambling as their job because they can't afford to lose any money from their bankroll which makes them chase their losses when they incur, even if they lose everything they have in that pursuit, they don't understand it until it's all done and dusted, that is why everyone suggests that gambling shouldn't be taken seriously and used as a way to earn an income.

Those who take gambling as a source of entertainment and gamble only to have some fun usually stay calm and collected even when they lose some bets, they don't chase their losses because that isn't what they are gambling for, they are doing it only to have some good time which they can have even if they lose some.

Gambling isn't bad since it gives entertainment and it's our own choice. It just becomes bad when a person can't control his desire to gambling. They become too addicted to it, and since it requires some money, they do a lot of things so they can gamble because that's what entertains them. It's a common effect to a lot of gamblers that's why gambling becomes a negative image. Another effect of it is those gamblers who wants to get back what they've lost and think that they can get it back by gambling more.

We all have our own reasons why we gamble, others just becomes too attached to it that they can't stop themselves from gambling.

It's like a gradient in which it's hard to see the place where white flows into black.
White: "I'll just play with this bonus money." A person plays and bets on 1 in a game where you need to guess a number out of 35, and when the deposit increases 35 times. And even if the deposit of this bonus money was for example $ 10, now the person has $ 350! And then he starts thinking - what if I bet $1,000. What then? I will win money and fulfill my dream. He bets them and loses. The ball does not fall on the number on which he put it, but on the date of birth of this person. "Damn," he thinks. "I felt that it was necessary to put on my birthday."
And puts it again.
And again.
And here he is in a big loss.

So we came to the "Black" color...
At what point did things get out of control?

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Quote from: BenCodie on June 28, 2023, 05:32:17 AM

Well, addiction to the fun is kind of the point in me not believing in it being for fun. At what point does it stop being fun? And do you think that people stop when it stops being fun, or until their wallet is empty? I think more often than not, it's the latter.

Gambling is supposed to be for fun/entertainment purposes. Casinos and others also say do not gamble if you cannot afford to lose. So, whoever agrees that they can lose to have fun, they are invited to gamble. But, if you cannot afford to lose, do not gamble. That's it. If someone gambles and wants to make money from it and keeps playing until their wallet gets empty, they are addicted and need some serious treatment.

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I suppose that is a fair point. As someone who doesn't spend money on things like skins, I suppose if it is for an advantage, then I guess it's somewhat justified. I don't think games should be like that for the sake of fairness, but they have a business to run

my opinion here isn't as hasty as it is toward the topic of gambling for fun vs gambling because of being allured or addicted.

I also think it's unfair to give some advantage who spend money on buying weapon skins. But, as you said, companies have to do business. Now everyone want to advantage of those gun skins and they spend more money on it. The company making money from the players.

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Quote from: GigaBit on June 28, 2023, 06:08:58 AM

As for me I think the parents owe the children nothing to explain to them as long as they never let the vacuum of their responsibilities in training the children remain void, when your children never have access to gambling or where they do such then you owe them no explanation, parents have their own part they play from their children way of upbringings, they must not engage doing things that we will not be aware of which may affect them in life the wrong way.

Parenting comes with a lot of work and educating the child on the danger of some action goes a long way to saving the child in the future when they are no longer with their parents, and it doesn't necessarily need that the child is exposed to it before you give them the awareness on the dangers available in the society and how to handle them.
I use my personal experience to check this thing, when I was young, my parents use to tell me real-life stories and sometimes we had both the good the bad and the ugly so those lessons thought us how to handle some in our real life.
Gambling lessons should be thought to young kids so that that knowledge will help to guide their actions when they grow up.

We need to safe ourselves from future challenges by avoiding our children get exposed to gambling right from onset, children are not yet responsible for their school fees payment, neither do they have other responsibilities attached to them to take care of which needs financial aid, their time is needed to be invested on their education and learn about other careers in life than getting too exposed to gambling at their early stage.

Children are not worthy for gambling. Children will develop their knowledge during this time when they will learn about various things. But if children are addicted to gambling during this period they will not develop as they need to their normal life. Parents have to be responsible enough towards a child otherwise parents cannot have a proper idea about whether the child is growing properly or not. Children may make mistakes during this period but parents should be careful. This period is very important for determining life goals for a children.

But as children has access in internet nowadays and gambling gets to younger now because recently there is a teenager that commit suicide just because of gambling and this is sadden .
hope that government and parents together with gambling operator/owner will act on this.

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Quote from: dezoel on June 28, 2023, 02:44:29 AM

As for me I think the parents owe the children nothing to explain to them as long as they never let the vacuum of their responsibilities in training the children remain void, when your children never have access to gambling or where they do such then you owe them no explanation, parents have their own part they play from their children way of upbringings, they must not engage doing things that we will not be aware of which may affect them in life the wrong way.

Parenting comes with a lot of work and educating the child on the danger of some action goes a long way to saving the child in the future when they are no longer with their parents, and it doesn't necessarily need that the child is exposed to it before you give them the awareness on the dangers available in the society and how to handle them.
I use my personal experience to check this thing, when I was young, my parents use to tell me real-life stories and sometimes we had both the good the bad and the ugly so those lessons thought us how to handle some in our real life.
Gambling lessons should be thought to young kids so that that knowledge will help to guide their actions when they grow up.

We need to safe ourselves from future challenges by avoiding our children get exposed to gambling right from onset, children are not yet responsible for their school fees payment, neither do they have other responsibilities attached to them to take care of which needs financial aid, their time is needed to be invested on their education and learn about other careers in life than getting too exposed to gambling at their early stage.

Children are not worthy for gambling. Children will develop their knowledge during this time when they will learn about various things. But if children are addicted to gambling during this period they will not develop as they need to their normal life. Parents have to be responsible enough towards a child otherwise parents cannot have a proper idea about whether the child is growing properly or not. Children may make mistakes during this period but parents should be careful. This period is very important for determining life goals for a children.

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Quote from: Flexystar on June 26, 2023, 01:31:52 PM

It’s bit much to say that those are real allegations. I think what we need to understand is gambling and how it’s connected with people. Most of the people are here by choices. Some of them love gambling because they are real with it, they sometimes make it their job, a way to income source and much more. While some of them are just playing for fun and there is no real deal with such people. They won’t care if they are profiting or not. They neither look for recovering their losses and much more. While on the other hand there comes people that you describe who are getting on the wrong foot all the time. I think they are none of the above. They are chaser and gambling isn’t about it.

Those who chase their losses are actually the ones who take gambling as their job because they can't afford to lose any money from their bankroll which makes them chase their losses when they incur, even if they lose everything they have in that pursuit, they don't understand it until it's all done and dusted, that is why everyone suggests that gambling shouldn't be taken seriously and used as a way to earn an income.

Those who take gambling as a source of entertainment and gamble only to have some fun usually stay calm and collected even when they lose some bets, they don't chase their losses because that isn't what they are gambling for, they are doing it only to have some good time which they can have even if they lose some.

Gambling isn't bad since it gives entertainment and it's our own choice. It just becomes bad when a person can't control his desire to gambling. They become too addicted to it, and since it requires some money, they do a lot of things so they can gamble because that's what entertains them. It's a common effect to a lot of gamblers that's why gambling becomes a negative image. Another effect of it is those gamblers who wants to get back what they've lost and think that they can get it back by gambling more.

We all have our own reasons why we gamble, others just becomes too attached to it that they can't stop themselves from gambling.

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Quote from: Learn Bitcoin on June 25, 2023, 07:48:05 PM

Quote from: BenCodie on June 25, 2023, 05:02:16 PM

I still don't believe in the "entertainment" aspect. There's so many things you can do that is truly entertaining for what is much less of the cost. To an extent you can have occasional fun with gambling, but if it's often, it's beyond entertainment.

Maybe it's better to say gamble for fun only? Let's take it this way since I don't know the definition of entertainment. I am quoting you because I also posted that people should take gambling as entertainment in this thread. Let's say gambling is for fun. But when it comes to spending real money, and you are addicted to the "Fun," you have to stop there because you don't know how much you will lose until you end up busted.

Well, addiction to the fun is kind of the point in me not believing in it being for fun. At what point does it stop being fun? And do you think that people stop when it stops being fun, or until their wallet is empty? I think more often than not, it's the latter.

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I also don't believe in spending money pointless crap like skins in games and in game purchased, so maybe my view is old fashioned.

Well, I have tried some battle royal games. Also, I wouldn't say I like purchasing game skins just to show off. But I played a battle royale game named free fire by garena. The weapon skins have attributes like double damage, double rate of fire etc. So, sometimes I've purchased those skins to take advantage.

I suppose that is a fair point. As someone who doesn't spend money on things like skins, I suppose if it is for an advantage, then I guess it's somewhat justified. I don't think games should be like that for the sake of fairness, but they have a business to run

my opinion here isn't as hasty as it is toward the topic of gambling for fun vs gambling because of being allured or addicted.

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As for me I think the parents owe the children nothing to explain to them as long as they never let the vacuum of their responsibilities in training the children remain void, when your children never have access to gambling or where they do such then you owe them no explanation, parents have their own part they play from their children way of upbringings, they must not engage doing things that we will not be aware of which may affect them in life the wrong way.

Parenting comes with a lot of work and educating the child on the danger of some action goes a long way to saving the child in the future when they are no longer with their parents, and it doesn't necessarily need that the child is exposed to it before you give them the awareness on the dangers available in the society and how to handle them.
I use my personal experience to check this thing, when I was young, my parents use to tell me real-life stories and sometimes we had both the good the bad and the ugly so those lessons thought us how to handle some in our real life.
Gambling lessons should be thought to young kids so that that knowledge will help to guide their actions when they grow up.

We need to safe ourselves from future challenges by avoiding our children get exposed to gambling right from onset, children are not yet responsible for their school fees payment, neither do they have other responsibilities attached to them to take care of which needs financial aid, their time is needed to be invested on their education and learn about other careers in life than getting too exposed to gambling at their early stage.

However, in order to protect themselves, their children and their families in general from the possible dependence of any of the family members on gambling such an addiction, which should already be considered as a mental illness, parents need to be very careful and monitor from an early age what reactions the games cause ( first the usual children's games) in the child. Especially in the case when the child lost in this game. And parents need to watch how much the child is eager to continue playing in order to win. Knowing in advance that a child, even at a young age, has such character traits as a violent reaction to a loss, it is already possible, as he grows up, to somehow reduce the significance of such events in conversations and help the child understand that this is nonsense. Thus, I think parents can help in the future to avoid problems with children's gambling.

However, for this, the parents themselves must be smart and enlightened people in this matter. This happens unfortunately not always.

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As for me I think the parents owe the children nothing to explain to them as long as they never let the vacuum of their responsibilities in training the children remain void, when your children never have access to gambling or where they do such then you owe them no explanation, parents have their own part they play from their children way of upbringings, they must not engage doing things that we will not be aware of which may affect them in life the wrong way.

Parenting comes with a lot of work and educating the child on the danger of some action goes a long way to saving the child in the future when they are no longer with their parents, and it doesn't necessarily need that the child is exposed to it before you give them the awareness on the dangers available in the society and how to handle them.
I use my personal experience to check this thing, when I was young, my parents use to tell me real-life stories and sometimes we had both the good the bad and the ugly so those lessons thought us how to handle some in our real life.
Gambling lessons should be thought to young kids so that that knowledge will help to guide their actions when they grow up.

We need to safe ourselves from future challenges by avoiding our children get exposed to gambling right from onset, children are not yet responsible for their school fees payment, neither do they have other responsibilities attached to them to take care of which needs financial aid, their time is needed to be invested on their education and learn about other careers in life than getting too exposed to gambling at their early stage.

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