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April 05, 2014, 11:26:37 PM
#45
I think I found out who satoshi is...

Dorian is just a diversion... maybe paid by those large bitcoin holders  Roll Eyes
legendary
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April 05, 2014, 10:58:51 PM
#44
Satoshi has probably left us forever.
The risk/reward in coming back is not favorable.
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April 05, 2014, 10:50:40 PM
#43
Satoshi is not, but most definitely some others. How do people get deceived so easily? It is painful watching the $1200 holders try to rally in speculation. It does take a while to come out of the matrix and understand all of this completely. Shame on media hyping this up too. The ideology just proves the strength of the almighty $ It has survived decades and the set the standards. It will for a long time to come as well. I am sure there will be more slaughtered down the road by reading here how this is all actually a million dollars per bitcoin and get tempted to play the poker game. Just get the chips and get ready.

I am getting ready to go through the bitcoin statement of cash flows to properly evaluate the stock price  Roll Eyes

The "almighty $" has lost 95.6% of it's purchasing power since the Federal Reserve came into existence. There are claims that it's still doing well compared to other currencies. Sure, in the land of the blind, the one-eyed is king, but Bitcoin is completely above governments struggling to stay afloat by inflation taxation. That's the whole point with Bitcoin
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he who has the gold makes the rules
April 05, 2014, 03:04:48 AM
#42
Is it possible that the person Dorian isn't the right Satoshi Nakamoto, and overzealous reporters who in the 21st century have no clue what proper investigative reporting and fact checking are, just saw the name and jumped the gun?

Is it possible that SN was always an alias?
Not only possible, but highly probable. We know the real Satoshi was an expert on pseudonymity and a part of the cypherpunk scene going all the way back to the early 90s.

This person(s) knew what (t)he(y) were doing.

yea it's called the golden lie

i recall someone in SV talking about just this scenario, many, many years ago...
legendary
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April 05, 2014, 02:39:49 AM
#41
I am wondering why people are making him a saint. Noone knows his true motive other than himself. Maybe he created the currency to enrich himself, even though it is desentrilized. He could have mined alot in the early days. Or he may not have, and  creted  it just as a "holy" motive. As I see, it the ones that came in early is the ones that got rich on this easy. All others, coming late in must really work hard with mining, trading or other. Even Jesus had a motive to do what he did and belived in, if not he would not got true with it (he did unselfish, but had a agenda). To create a desentrilized currency can also be selfish. Anarchists for example, believe in chaos, and thereby want to create it, and if they believe in it truly, its a kind of selfish to create it and "force" it on others that not want it.

Whatever a human does do, is most often based on selfishness, agenda or what other expects from you somehow true believe. So to glorify a person to almost holy I will never be into; if its my mom, the president or other.



I think satoshi is playing the long game, his motive was likely, go down in history, solve a cardinal problem no else had, make 1 trillion $. Some english guy  in the 1500's or so was worth over a Trillion in today's money....so theres precedent for that. Satoshi has planned this out some years in advance, and is sticking to the plan

If you have ever read Wells the sleeper wakes it has some interesting ideas as to what happens if the money is left then used later.....when satoshi wakes.

Its also telling that Satoshi may have broken cover to get dorian of the Hook rather than crow about  my invention just cracked $10B.

Hi Satoshi, as you reading this now, your thinking 21T! Your not far wrong I agree at least that.
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April 05, 2014, 02:15:53 AM
#40
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Unless you belive in our lord Satoshi! If you belive in Satoshi, he will save us from our sins. AMEN.  Roll Eyes

If you (currently) search "Satoshi is god" in Google images, you get a surprising mix of images that don't have much to do with Satoshi or God.
EDIT:
Some of them are other people named Satoshi (i.e. Satoshi Tsumabuki)
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April 05, 2014, 01:59:00 AM
#39
It might not be the truth and only but the truth but my speculation is that he became disgusted with the community since Gavin showed it off to CIA, and become even more disgusted when he saw how twisted we are with our overly speculative, wanna-get-rich-quick-while-jerking-off mentalities and such.

My impression is that he doesn't give a single shit on any of us and more tragically even about Bitcoin. If not a prank, his recent post on not being Dorian, clearly shows he stepped forward to defend a man that was in REAL danger of being killed for his supposed wealth/ worshiped to death by the bitcoin fanatics.

Moreover, Sathoshi gave everybody the instrument, a decentralized currency but we somehow started to do it wrong (see MyBitcoin, Bitcoinica, MtGox etc)

All I see is your beliefs. How "convenient" that your impression of Satoshi does not disagree with you at all. What if Satoshi adores the get rich and speculative types? What if he stepped forward to show that he was alive and only used Dorian as an excuse.     

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Bitcoin will not burn in hell, only we will! (in a max of 90 years or so, and even less for some of us).

Unless you belive in our lord Satoshi! If you belive in Satoshi, he will save us from our sins. AMEN.  Roll Eyes
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April 05, 2014, 01:09:09 AM
#38

Still possible that the NSA invented BTC as a "One World Currency."
We have no way to know for certain.

Well holy shit, if that's the case, then I'll be buying BTC, as fast as I can save the cash to purchase them Wink
If indeed BTC is the new one-world-currency then I'll be able to retire on 10-20BTC... Wink
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April 04, 2014, 11:31:01 PM
#37
I think Satoshi doesn't have 1mil btc. He probably had a miner running to help bootstrap/maintain the network on the early days, But those 1 mil btc were lost on purpose (of fairness/detachment?) to random addresses.
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April 04, 2014, 10:17:35 PM
#36
OP, if you have invented something that would change people's lives forever, turning them from slaves to free people, to choose from their own, their own destiny:

Would you want your government to know about it?

Think hard before you answer....
Best post in thread.

It's a trap?
Still possible that the NSA invented BTC as a "One World Currency."
We have no way to know for certain.
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April 04, 2014, 09:34:26 PM
#35
OP, if you have invented something that would change people's lives forever, turning them from slaves to free people, to choose from their own, their own destiny:

Would you want your government to know about it?

Think hard before you answer....
Best post in thread.
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April 04, 2014, 09:14:13 PM
#34
I think it's a good idea that he stays anonymous even though I would personally love to learn about him.

If his real identity was revealed he would be scrutinized to an unbearable extent. He would not only have the government, but also media and criminals on his back. The media would find every dirt and misstep in his life. They would interview his first girlfriend and his past employers. Nobody is perfect and the media would exaggerate every single thing into an elephant. It would be hell for him personally and hell for the Bitcoin community as a whole.

He should stay anonymous and make every possible precaution to cut off any links that could lead people to him.
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April 04, 2014, 08:31:41 PM
#33
he doesn't come forward because he created the system which is about to destroy the means by which the richest banksters in the world transfer wealth from the working population to themselves.
people were killed for alot less than that.
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April 04, 2014, 08:04:50 PM
#32
If not a prank, his recent post on not being Dorian, clearly shows he stepped forward to defend a man that was in REAL danger of being killed for his supposed wealth/ worshiped to death by the bitcoin fanatics.

Satoshi hasn't posted since 2010, so I'm not sure what you're rambling on about.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/satoshi-3

He posted a reply on his p2p profile saying "I am not Dorian Nakamoto."
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April 04, 2014, 07:39:49 PM
#31
If not a prank, his recent post on not being Dorian, clearly shows he stepped forward to defend a man that was in REAL danger of being killed for his supposed wealth/ worshiped to death by the bitcoin fanatics.

Satoshi hasn't posted since 2010, so I'm not sure what you're rambling on about.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/satoshi-3
legendary
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April 04, 2014, 06:46:32 PM
#30
I still find this theory most likely: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/satoshi-never-ment-to-disappear-348608 Tongue

No, but seriously, yeah, most of us jumped onboard this train driven by greed. We all thought we were going to get rich. I, as well as you, believe that Satoshis intentions were completely different, however greed is a part of capitalism. I'm not saying that capitalism is the best system, but since we all live in a capitalistic world, like it or not, it is our only way to get mainstream.
I won't deny my causes for jumping onboard was pure greed. But Bitcoin grew to me. Hopefully people will as I did realize what a revolutionizing technology this is.
Satoshi may like it or not, but we use his/her/their work to revolutionize the world. And that was also his mission even though I believe his methods would have been different from ours.

this is the best opinion i have ever read. I agree with you. Satoshi is a real philosopher and i think he understand clear the human behavior. He create a true modern revolution.
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April 04, 2014, 06:42:00 PM
#29
... wanna-get-rich-quick...

Oh they irony:
Maybe satoshi doesn't come forward because he pulled off the biggest early-mine "scam" in crypto history.
He is wealthy almost beyond belief, especially near the top of the next Bullish wave.

Satoshi belongs in the libertarian Hall of Fame for creatively expressing rational self-interest.

OMFG BITCOIN IS BASED ON A LIE? Shocked Shocked Shocked
That is a kinda funny scenario, and if that actually is the true scenario, and Satoshi is sitting on his 100m$ island sipping 200 y.o wine reading this, then I have to say; Cheers to you mate. You did one of the biggest scams in history.

I didn't say he lied; Almost no one else was mining at the start, so he has a huge pile of unspent coins.
"Scam" was in quotes...
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April 04, 2014, 06:21:52 PM
#28
... wanna-get-rich-quick...

Oh they irony:
Maybe satoshi doesn't come forward because he pulled off the biggest early-mine "scam" in crypto history.
He is wealthy almost beyond belief, especially near the top of the next Bullish wave.

Satoshi belongs in the libertarian Hall of Fame for creatively expressing rational self-interest.

OMFG BITCOIN IS BASED ON A LIE? Shocked Shocked Shocked
That is a kinda funny scenario, and if that actually is the true scenario, and Satoshi is sitting on his 100m$ island sipping 200 y.o wine reading this, then I have to say; Cheers to you mate. You did one of the biggest scams in history.
legendary
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April 04, 2014, 06:13:01 PM
#27
... wanna-get-rich-quick...

Oh they irony:
Maybe satoshi doesn't come forward because he pulled off the biggest early-mine "scam" in crypto history.
He is wealthy almost beyond belief, especially near the top of the next Bullish wave.

Satoshi belongs in the libertarian Hall of Fame for creatively expressing rational self-interest.
sr. member
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April 04, 2014, 06:03:36 PM
#26
Satoshi is an idea, like Jesus
it was born, grew up, created bitcoin, died , and now we are waiting the resurrection Tongue

we can tell that story to our children when they fall asleep! Tongue
Good idea now I am also thinking to share this story with my kids they will like this Cheesy
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