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April 04, 2014, 06:00:52 PM
#25
I am wondering why people are making him a saint. Noone knows his true motive other than himself. Maybe he created the currency to enrich himself, even though it is desentrilized. He could have mined alot in the early days. Or he may not have, and  creted  it just as a "holy" motive. As I see, it the ones that came in early is the ones that got rich on this easy. All others, coming late in must really work hard with mining, trading or other. Even Jesus had a motive to do what he did and belived in, if not he would not got true with it (he did unselfish, but had a agenda). To create a desentrilized currency can also be selfish. Anarchists for example, believe in chaos, and thereby want to create it, and if they believe in it truly, its a kind of selfish to create it and "force" it on others that not want it.

Whatever a human does do, is most often based on selfishness, agenda or what other expects from you somehow true believe. So to glorify a person to almost holy I will never be into; if its my mom, the president or other.


Yeah, that's kinda the point. Satoshi had an agenda with bitcoin, most of the users had another. He therefore left (according to this theory).
He also mined a lot in the beginning, even though most of the mined coins were never touched. His true motives only Satoshi himself knows.
Btw (and a bit Off topic), anarchists doesn't necessarily believe in chaos. Most of them just want to be free from laws and obligations forced onto them.
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April 04, 2014, 05:53:56 PM
#24
If you made tons of money off this would you want everyone to know about it, including the IRS?


This is where'd I be. If I made millions over millions in net worth, I wouldn't want anybody (IRS, family, friends, etc) knowing what I had. Even more so if there is a public ledger with the details of everything I would own.

How much of your income actually belongs to you?

I can tell you that 80% of what you are making goes to the gov and the banks.

Think about it....
Even if you want to do something simple like take a piss, you are taxed on the water you use to flash the toilet.....

Food for thoughts don't you think?
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April 04, 2014, 05:53:02 PM
#23
I am wondering why people are making him a saint. Noone knows his true motive other than himself. Maybe he created the currency to enrich himself, even though it is desentrilized. He could have mined alot in the early days. Or he may not have, and  creted  it just as a "holy" motive. As I see, it the ones that came in early is the ones that got rich on this easy. All others, coming late in must really work hard with mining, trading or other. Even Jesus had a motive to do what he did and belived in, if not he would not got true with it (he did unselfish, but had a agenda). To create a desentrilized currency can also be selfish. Anarchists for example, believe in chaos, and thereby want to create it, and if they believe in it truly, its a kind of selfish to create it and "force" it on others that not want it.

Whatever a human does do, is most often based on selfishness, agenda or what other expects from you somehow true believe. So to glorify a person to almost holy I will never be into; if its my mom, the president or other.

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April 04, 2014, 05:44:09 PM
#22
Satoshi is an idea, like Jesus
it was born, grew up, created bitcoin, died , and now we are waiting the resurrection Tongue

we can tell that story to our children when they fall asleep! Tongue
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April 04, 2014, 05:33:51 PM
#21
If you made tons of money off this would you want everyone to know about it, including the IRS?


This is where'd I be. If I made millions over millions in net worth, I wouldn't want anybody (IRS, family, friends, etc) knowing what I had. Even more so if there is a public ledger with the details of everything I would own.
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Garbochock
April 04, 2014, 05:28:07 PM
#20
I still find this theory most likely: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/satoshi-never-ment-to-disappear-348608 Tongue

No, but seriously, yeah, most of us jumped onboard this train driven by greed. We all thought we were going to get rich. I, as well as you, believe that Satoshis intentions were completely different, however greed is a part of capitalism. I'm not saying that capitalism is the best system, but since we all live in a capitalistic world, like it or not, it is our only way to get mainstream.
I won't deny my causes for jumping onboard was pure greed. But Bitcoin grew to me. Hopefully people will as I did realize what a revolutionizing technology this is.
Satoshi may like it or not, but we use his/her/their work to revolutionize the world. And that was also his mission even though I believe his methods would have been different from ours.
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April 04, 2014, 05:12:54 PM
#19
It could just be that he turned into a lobster and is no longer able to type.
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April 04, 2014, 04:36:30 PM
#18
Most communities turn out this way sooner or later. Often that's what leads to more mainstream acceptance.
You may or may not like the way it is, but that is how it is. I don't wanna sound rude saying this but, if you don't like what has happened to the community you are free to leave whenever you want. There surely are other revolutionizing projects that only a handful of people knows about. Join them if that is the kind of communities you prefer.
We all have a choice; either you can stay here, frustrated over how things are, or you can try to teach us the way of bitcoin. Or you can leave. The choice is up to you.
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April 04, 2014, 04:20:54 PM
#17
OP, if you have invented something that would change people's lives forever, turning them from slaves to free people, to choose from their own, their own destiny:

Would you want your government to know about it?

Think hard before you answer....

legendary
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April 04, 2014, 04:18:01 PM
#16
Quite simply Satoshi realised if he was right, and he likely was, that he had to be anon. Can you imagine the target he painted on his back. Think it through

[1] Near 1 million BTC, he could easily become the worlds most wealthy individual by some large margin.
[2] Imagine the govs/corps after him + alphabet agencies. The guy just solved an a major problem, and the solution borders on genius, not saying its perfect, but it was original thought.
[3] He/She/It planned this out for a long time and thought it through. They are not in it for the the short term. They planned out no going public
[4] Avoid all the acolytes/nutcases.

Satsoshi would have no life left if he revealed himself. I think satoshi see's bitcoin at 1 Mill a coin [at least], and this is the reason for the 10e^-8, 1 satoshi = 1 cent.

"we" haven't done anything "wrong" that occurs in any system. We need a properly distributed exchange


It might not be the truth and only but the truth but my speculation is that he became disgusted with the community since Gavin showed it off to CIA, and become even more disgusted when he saw how twisted we are with our overly speculative, wanna-get-rich-quick-while-jerking-off mentalities and such.

My impression is that he doesn't give a single shit on any of us and more tragically even about Bitcoin. If not a prank, his recent post on not being Dorian, clearly shows he stepped forward to defend a man that was in REAL danger of being killed for his supposed wealth/ worshiped to death by the bitcoin fanatics.

Moreover, Sathoshi gave everybody the instrument, a decentralized currency but we somehow started to do it wrong (see MyBitcoin, Bitcoinica, MtGox etc)

But don't worry, Bitcoin will not burn in hell, only we will! (in a max of 90 years or so, and even less for some of us). And lets a keep a toast for for MtGox - Bitcoinica incidents as we love people being scammed of off their life savings.

PS: Haven't lost any bitcoin with the Mtgox fiasco but I have lost faith in the community. Protocol still works though.
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April 04, 2014, 04:13:38 PM
#15
Aaaan this thread gets the same noob trolling, no other constructive dialogue other than Anu's posts.
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Be Here Now
April 04, 2014, 01:06:38 PM
#14
Shit, I'm tempted to get a legal name change to Satoshi Nakamoto and have someone "leak" to the press that they found me.

Could probably clear a few hundred thousand $ from media companies before they realize it's bullshit and leave me alone.


I'd love to see this become a thing

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April 04, 2014, 01:05:33 PM
#13
cause he is Dorian     Huh
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April 04, 2014, 12:54:38 PM
#12
he could still be here posting under a different name.  Cheesy
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April 04, 2014, 12:26:07 PM
#11
Shit, I'm tempted to get a legal name change to Satoshi Nakamoto and have someone "leak" to the press that they found me.

Could probably clear a few hundred thousand $ from media companies before they realize it's bullshit and leave me alone.
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April 04, 2014, 12:25:30 PM
#10
Is it possible that the person Dorian isn't the right Satoshi Nakamoto, and overzealous reporters who in the 21st century have no clue what proper investigative reporting and fact checking are, just saw the name and jumped the gun?

Is it possible that SN was always an alias?
Not only possible, but highly probable. We know the real Satoshi was an expert on pseudonymity and a part of the cypherpunk scene going all the way back to the early 90s.

This person(s) knew what (t)he(y) were doing.
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April 04, 2014, 12:17:02 PM
#9
Is it possible that the person Dorian isn't the right Satoshi Nakamoto, and overzealous reporters who in the 21st century have no clue what proper investigative reporting and fact checking are, just saw the name and jumped the gun?

Is it possible that SN was always an alias?


That's a n00b question btw, but nonetheless sincere.
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einc.io
April 04, 2014, 12:16:47 PM
#8
PS: Haven't lost any bitcoin with the Mtgox fiasco but I have lost faith in the community. Protocol still works though.

This is because the OK members of the community left bitcointalk, not only Satoshi. Bitcointalk, especially the Speculation board mutated to a TrollBox. Look at some "last active" of some of the old guard:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/evoorhees-12149


The man is fucking busy after he sold Satoshi Dice for 126,315 bitcoins.
He is enjoying live and working on something new.
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April 04, 2014, 12:16:08 PM
#7
Satoshi is not, but most definitely some others. How do people get deceived so easily? It is painful watching the $1200 holders try to rally in speculation. It does take a while to come out of the matrix and understand all of this completely. Shame on media hyping this up too. The ideology just proves the strength of the almighty $ It has survived decades and the set the standards. It will for a long time to come as well. I am sure there will be more slaughtered down the road by reading here how this is all actually a million dollars per bitcoin and get tempted to play the poker game. Just get the chips and get ready.

I am getting ready to go through the bitcoin statement of cash flows to properly evaluate the stock price  Roll Eyes
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April 04, 2014, 12:15:13 PM
#6
If you made tons of money off this would you want everyone to know about it, including the IRS?
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