Topic: Why the monero/bitmonero/MRO/BMR/XMR Ninjalaunched Cripplemined Fastmine matters - page 5. (Read 13661 times)
April 25, 2016, 06:18:33 PM
how many bitmonero, bmr, mro, xmr monero were mined the first 3 months?
April 25, 2016, 12:27:50 AM
Honestly I don't understand why you guys (Smooth, generalizethis, icebreaker, etc. ) pay so much attention to these morons.
what would you do if you get a few monero for every troll post? you would post endlessly, 24/7, more posts = $$$
i dont think monero inflation has enough coin to pay all those troll
maybe i was wrong... hummm...
I guess when you have hidden ledgers with hidden coin, you can have as much 'money' as you choose........
but monero was never been a scam, it was awesomely honestly mined by the dev and their super duper enhanced miner. that is it, or have i been wrong again
April 24, 2016, 08:43:19 AM
Honestly I don't understand why you guys (Smooth, generalizethis, icebreaker, etc. ) pay so much attention to these morons.
what would you do if you get a few monero for every troll post? you would post endlessly, 24/7, more posts = $$$
i dont think monero inflation has enough coin to pay all those troll
maybe i was wrong... hummm...
April 24, 2016, 08:31:11 AM
Honestly I don't understand why you guys (Smooth, generalizethis, icebreaker, etc. ) pay so much attention to these morons.
man, it's easy!
what would you do if you get a few monero for every troll post? you would post endlessly, 24/7, more posts = $$$
it's not about personality, it's not about passion for code or math or whatever, it's about cash
and it's clear that there is 1/2 people behind 15 accounts, pay close attention to the writing style
April 23, 2016, 12:09:11 AM
I wish the two of you would just fuck already and get it over with instead of cluttering up this shit hole with more shit.
Dear god think of the offspring. Wear protection, folks. April 22, 2016, 04:57:27 AM
Monero - Cloning the premined uber-scam "Bytecoin" and avoid scanning the code for fraudulent algorithms
Monero - Insisting on having oh so much integrity yet irresponsibly/willfully shipping a crippled shit-miner to unsuspecting victims/"users"
Monero - Ninjamining an unknown shit-ton of coins within our inner circle through optimized miners while the public gets the crippled one
Monero - The perfect instrument for ninjamining because our CryptoNote-blockchain (aka copycat technology) is opaque
Monero - Projecting our fraud on DASH and yelling "instamine" because no one can see that we are the actual scammers!
Monero - Evan should have chosen CryptoNote for DASH to hide his 5 trillion DASH instamine like we did with our ninjamine!
Monero - Failing to come up with a single innovation of our own and yelling "stop playing the innovation card" when DASH is proven as superior (butthurt)
Monero - Cloning a scam, putting make up on the pig, hoping no one notices
Monero - Too little, too late
Monero -
Monero - Insisting on having oh so much integrity yet irresponsibly/willfully shipping a crippled shit-miner to unsuspecting victims/"users"
Monero - Ninjamining an unknown shit-ton of coins within our inner circle through optimized miners while the public gets the crippled one
Monero - The perfect instrument for ninjamining because our CryptoNote-blockchain (aka copycat technology) is opaque
Monero - Projecting our fraud on DASH and yelling "instamine" because no one can see that we are the actual scammers!
Monero - Evan should have chosen CryptoNote for DASH to hide his 5 trillion DASH instamine like we did with our ninjamine!
Monero - Failing to come up with a single innovation of our own and yelling "stop playing the innovation card" when DASH is proven as superior (butthurt)
Monero - Cloning a scam, putting make up on the pig, hoping no one notices
Monero - Too little, too late
Monero -
Forgot the artificial barrier to entry (to keep noobz out and increase insider sharing) due to the ...cmd-line nature of the coin...
Monero - Cloning a scam, putting
there i fix it for u
April 21, 2016, 09:45:42 PM
Monero - Cloning the premined uber-scam "Bytecoin" and avoid scanning the code for fraudulent algorithms
Monero - Insisting on having oh so much integrity yet irresponsibly/willfully shipping a crippled shit-miner to unsuspecting victims/"users"
Monero - Ninjamining an unknown shit-ton of coins within our inner circle through optimized miners while the public gets the crippled one
Monero - The perfect instrument for ninjamining because our CryptoNote-blockchain (aka copycat technology) is opaque
Monero - Projecting our fraud on DASH and yelling "instamine" because no one can see that we are the actual scammers!
Monero - Evan should have chosen CryptoNote for DASH to hide his 5 trillion DASH instamine like we did with our ninjamine!
Monero - Failing to come up with a single innovation of our own and yelling "stop playing the innovation card" when DASH is proven as superior (butthurt)
Monero - Cloning a scam, putting make up on the pig, hoping no one notices
Monero - Too little, too late
Monero -
Monero - Insisting on having oh so much integrity yet irresponsibly/willfully shipping a crippled shit-miner to unsuspecting victims/"users"
Monero - Ninjamining an unknown shit-ton of coins within our inner circle through optimized miners while the public gets the crippled one
Monero - The perfect instrument for ninjamining because our CryptoNote-blockchain (aka copycat technology) is opaque
Monero - Projecting our fraud on DASH and yelling "instamine" because no one can see that we are the actual scammers!
Monero - Evan should have chosen CryptoNote for DASH to hide his 5 trillion DASH instamine like we did with our ninjamine!
Monero - Failing to come up with a single innovation of our own and yelling "stop playing the innovation card" when DASH is proven as superior (butthurt)
Monero - Cloning a scam, putting make up on the pig, hoping no one notices
Monero - Too little, too late
Monero -
Forgot the artificial barrier to entry (to keep noobz out and increase insider sharing) due to the ...cmd-line nature of the coin...
April 21, 2016, 07:03:13 PM
Just dropping in to mention that Monero, the cripplemined, botnet-mined, ninjamined, innovationless, one trick pony, provable scam (which financially defrauded victims of the crippled scam-miner) should be relaunched.
The market obviously hates Monero, look at the charts, whenever the ninjamine-scammers try to manipulate the price to attract new victims another whale dumps a giant deuce on them, rushing to the exit. Or should I say: flushing
The market obviously hates Monero, look at the charts, whenever the ninjamine-scammers try to manipulate the price to attract new victims another whale dumps a giant deuce on them, rushing to the exit. Or should I say: flushing
Monero - Cloning the premined uber-scam "Bytecoin" and avoid scanning the code for fraudulent algorithms
Monero - Insisting on having oh so much integrity yet irresponsibly/willfully shipping a crippled shit-miner to unsuspecting victims/"users"
Monero - Ninjamining an unknown shit-ton of coins within our inner circle through optimized miners while the public gets the crippled one
Monero - The perfect instrument for ninjamining because our CryptoNote-blockchain (aka copycat technology) is opaque
Monero - Projecting our fraud on DASH and yelling "instamine" because no one can see that we are the actual scammers!
Monero - Evan should have chosen CryptoNote for DASH to hide his 5 trillion DASH instamine like we did with our ninjamine!
Monero - Failing to come up with a single innovation of our own and yelling "stop playing the innovation card" when DASH is proven as superior (butthurt)
Monero - Cloning a scam, putting make up on the pig, hoping no one notices
Monero - Too little, too late
Monero -
Monero - Insisting on having oh so much integrity yet irresponsibly/willfully shipping a crippled shit-miner to unsuspecting victims/"users"
Monero - Ninjamining an unknown shit-ton of coins within our inner circle through optimized miners while the public gets the crippled one
Monero - The perfect instrument for ninjamining because our CryptoNote-blockchain (aka copycat technology) is opaque
Monero - Projecting our fraud on DASH and yelling "instamine" because no one can see that we are the actual scammers!
Monero - Evan should have chosen CryptoNote for DASH to hide his 5 trillion DASH instamine like we did with our ninjamine!
Monero - Failing to come up with a single innovation of our own and yelling "stop playing the innovation card" when DASH is proven as superior (butthurt)
Monero - Cloning a scam, putting make up on the pig, hoping no one notices
Monero - Too little, too late
Monero -
The FAILERO scam protecting in here is pretty desperate. Deflecting away the accusations by mentioning off topics is clearly a sign of guilt.
Moanero cloned a scam coin (Bytecoin). Why you ask? Because they KNEW, like everyone else, it was a scam
And yet didn't bother to check for scammy code? Is that feigning of ignorance credible? Definitely not.
Why? Because they claim to have so much integrity:
Advertising "fair launch" and yet they pushed a scammy crippleminer onto the public
Only when an outside party noticed the scam that was going on:
There was no closed source release of anything from the Monero project. It has all been released on github, when practical with accompanying Windows, Mac and Linux binaries. We can't control what everyone else does, but we have certainly encouraged optimized miner developers to share them, in one case offering a bounty (though it turned out not to be necessary as we independently developed comparable optimizations).
As far as I remember, it was me who was asking the questions and finally pushed NoodleDoodle to release the source of the first optimization "round". Where's my bounty then?
NoodleDoodle was not at the time a Monero developer. His first commit to github was the "optimized" (if you want to call it that) miner, which he developed on his own initiative as a individual miner. He was encouraged not only by you, but also by members of the Monero team to open source it, which he did. He has since contributed further optimizations.
As it turns out all these optimizations were really (very likely) un-de-optimizations. If you wanted them released earlier you should get after the bytecoin devs about it. They supposedly had two years to do it.
they bothered to make efforts to fix it.
Monero devs filled their pockets with optimized miners no one else had access to at the time and just when someone else noticed he could fix the scam miner himself they had to come clean. Too bad for him they had already mined a shit-ton before anyone found out.
Conclusion from evidence:
SCAM CONFIRMED.
Monero should relaunch because of the cripplemine scam at the beginning.
Moanero cloned a scam coin (Bytecoin). Why you ask? Because they KNEW, like everyone else, it was a scam
And yet didn't bother to check for scammy code? Is that feigning of ignorance credible? Definitely not.
Why? Because they claim to have so much integrity:
You won't find a more fair launch of any coin no will you find team behind a coin with more integrity than the Monero team in my opinion (though as a minor disclaimer, I don't know all of them outside of our work on Monero -- the work on Monero has been 100% above board and community-focused).
Advertising "fair launch" and yet they pushed a scammy crippleminer onto the public
Only when an outside party noticed the scam that was going on:
My concern with Monero is that optimized miner was always closed-source until a week in production. It happened each time the optimization takes place.
There was no closed source release of anything from the Monero project. It has all been released on github, when practical with accompanying Windows, Mac and Linux binaries. We can't control what everyone else does, but we have certainly encouraged optimized miner developers to share them, in one case offering a bounty (though it turned out not to be necessary as we independently developed comparable optimizations).
As far as I remember, it was me who was asking the questions and finally pushed NoodleDoodle to release the source of the first optimization "round". Where's my bounty then?
NoodleDoodle was not at the time a Monero developer. His first commit to github was the "optimized" (if you want to call it that) miner, which he developed on his own initiative as a individual miner. He was encouraged not only by you, but also by members of the Monero team to open source it, which he did. He has since contributed further optimizations.
As it turns out all these optimizations were really (very likely) un-de-optimizations. If you wanted them released earlier you should get after the bytecoin devs about it. They supposedly had two years to do it.
they bothered to make efforts to fix it.
Monero devs filled their pockets with optimized miners no one else had access to at the time and just when someone else noticed he could fix the scam miner himself they had to come clean. Too bad for him they had already mined a shit-ton before anyone found out.
Conclusion from evidence:
SCAM CONFIRMED.
Monero should relaunch because of the cripplemine scam at the beginning.
April 21, 2016, 05:28:14 PM
So much talk from the monero gang about "proving" a cripplemine.
Its completely unnecessary because there is doubt, a lot of doubt. Coupled with the other facts, this coin is doomed.
Its completely unnecessary because there is doubt, a lot of doubt. Coupled with the other facts, this coin is doomed.
April 20, 2016, 11:00:40 PM
Don't quote the trolls
April 18, 2016, 06:41:57 AM
they start these CJW (Crypto Justice Warrior) threads for all the coins not just DASH.
they reply any thread they get paid to troll, there is a contract to respect!
or would they really do this 24/7 for free?!
unless they admit to be kind of mentally ill and so obsessed with monero (like one of their main investor), i don't get why this people cannot get a life and instead post the same shit over and over for months, oh wait i know why = $$$
I smell projection.
Actually, and this insight is free of charge, I'm an INTJ and am more motivated by being right than anything else--you can look up the personality type and read for yourself that money isn't much of a motivator for people like myself. I suspect that some people are motivated out of a sense of duty and fair play also--though I'm not discounting that some are motivated by money, though I doubt they could maintain the type of continual back and forth, correcting faulty logic, pointing out holes in designs and argumentation, ect., that goes with a Free Open Source project such as Monero without having a better motive than greed. But you're entitled to your opinion, and I'm entitled to correct it, enjoy correcting it, and point out the flaw of projecting your own motives onto others (if that happens to be the case). It's a big world with many types of personalities, and I know this is tough, some people's motives will be as strange to you as another world if you ever stopped and considered their reasoning without the restrictions of myopia.
Though, again, is anyone pointing out a flaw in Monero or an intention to scam by analyzing motives without evidence to back up their assertions?
April 18, 2016, 06:33:04 AM
they start these CJW (Crypto Justice Warrior) threads for all the coins not just DASH.
they reply any thread they get paid to troll, there is a contract to respect!
or would they really do this 24/7 for free?!
unless they admit to be kind of mentally ill and so obsessed with monero (like one of their main investor), i don't get why this people cannot get a life and instead post the same shit over and over for months, oh wait i know why = $$$
April 18, 2016, 04:39:08 AM
Well, I know that I'm not paid
and you are even telling me that you do this 24/7 for FREE?!
wow, you are a kindest crypto knight i ever met, the monero community should start a fund to build a statue in you honor, or maybe to smooth? who deserves more?
you are funny, too bad is late night and i cannot continue to reply, for free
lol, crypto knight, that's perfect. i think i'm gonna start using that as it accurately describes smooth and icebreaker and the rest of the monero marketing team .
i can't even make a mocking thread without them trying to take it over and crypto knight. they start these CJW (Crypto Justice Warrior) threads for all the coins not just DASH.
they've been called the crypto police many times before but crypto knight is perfect.
the topic of this thread is the monero cripplemined fastmine and how it will affect the coin. it is a response to a CJW thread started by hypocrites from the monero marketing team.
So basically you're pointing out that your rambling is off-topic? Because I don't see anything in your post that could be construed as proof of an intentional miner crippling or that that indeed affects the coin, maybe you need a refresher on what you need to do? At this point, I'll probably have to post it every other post as you and your buddies seem easily distracted.
Haven't seen any of that alleged "evidence". Only evidence in here so far is that Monero was intentionally released as a cripplemine to the public rendering it a scam.
Do you have evidence that it was intentional?
Do you have evidence that it affects the coin negatively, as in invalidating any of its claims of decentralization or privacy?
If you don't have evidence of one, then you're left with the thread's title being false and a complete waste of time. As an example: I can show that dash is an oligarchy, whether intentional or not, due to the way their paynode scheme works. These systems are designed to work trustlessly, so any hiccups (intentional or not) should be invalidated by the design, not left-up to the good or bad intentions of those who are engaged with it.
April 18, 2016, 02:36:24 AM
Well, I know that I'm not paid
and you are even telling me that you do this 24/7 for FREE?!
wow, you are a kindest crypto knight i ever met, the monero community should start a fund to build a statue in you honor, or maybe to smooth? who deserves more?
you are funny, too bad is late night and i cannot continue to reply, for free
lol, crypto knight, that's perfect. i think i'm gonna start using that as it accurately describes smooth and icebreaker and the rest of the monero marketing team .
i can't even make a mocking thread without them trying to take it over and crypto knight. they start these CJW (Crypto Justice Warrior) threads for all the coins not just DASH.
they've been called the crypto police many times before but crypto knight is perfect.
the topic of this thread is the monero cripplemined fastmine and how it will affect the coin. it is a response to a CJW thread started by hypocrites from the monero marketing team.
April 16, 2016, 03:08:11 PM
@TrueCryptonaire: Any thoughts on the lack of actual innovation? Ring signatures weren't invented by Monero, neither the announced to be implemented Confidential Transactions. Can you name any (killer) feature that didn't exist before Monero came to invent it? And if not, why are you so ardent to support it?
This is an honest and neutral question. I don't have beef with anyone who likes Monero, even though one might think so.
This is an honest and neutral question. I don't have beef with anyone who likes Monero, even though one might think so.
Hello,
To be honest, I have no idea if XMR lacks innovation or has innovation. I am investing into it because of the community. Money is a social contract and if there are enough people thinking a commodity X is money then it is money. Gold coins has not that much innovation but I guess there are still some people thinking it is money. Surely it has been perceived as money no more than around 100 years. You can still buy those coins from dealers and ebay.
Money doesn't need innovation but it simply needs to be usable, safe and secure and above all, it needs people who are willing to collect it as much as possible (greed - yes it is a healthy thing despite some people might find this controversial).
Thanks! With that specific set of priorities I can comprehend your decision of investment. Do you have any other coins that meet your criteria (no, this isn't a "Dash bait", any other coin)?
But that might be also the lack of time to research every coin of coinmarketcap (like hundreds of cases).
Bitcoin obviously still has the majority of followers, then I think Monero has also people who are at least interested in the coin...
Edit: Etherium has a community and that is reflected by the trading volumes. Therefore I am interested in it but personally I am not investing into it at least for now... There is way too much volatility and the last thing I want to do is to buy and then get dumped instantly (this has happened with XMR btw many times).
April 16, 2016, 02:40:50 PM
@TrueCryptonaire: Any thoughts on the lack of actual innovation? Ring signatures weren't invented by Monero, neither the announced to be implemented Confidential Transactions. Can you name any (killer) feature that didn't exist before Monero came to invent it? And if not, why are you so ardent to support it?
This is an honest and neutral question. I don't have beef with anyone who likes Monero, even though one might think so.
This is an honest and neutral question. I don't have beef with anyone who likes Monero, even though one might think so.
Hello,
To be honest, I have no idea if XMR lacks innovation or has innovation. I am investing into it because of the community. Money is a social contract and if there are enough people thinking a commodity X is money then it is money. Gold coins has not that much innovation but I guess there are still some people thinking it is money. Surely it has been perceived as money no more than around 100 years. You can still buy those coins from dealers and ebay.
Money doesn't need innovation but it simply needs to be usable, safe and secure and above all, it needs people who are willing to collect it as much as possible (greed - yes it is a healthy thing despite some people might find this controversial).
Thanks! With that specific set of priorities I can comprehend your decision of investment. Do you have any other coins that meet your criteria (no, this isn't a "Dash bait", any other coin)?
April 16, 2016, 02:36:27 PM
@TrueCryptonaire: Any thoughts on the lack of actual innovation? Ring signatures weren't invented by Monero, neither the announced to be implemented Confidential Transactions. Can you name any (killer) feature that didn't exist before Monero came to invent it? And if not, why are you so ardent to support it?
This is an honest and neutral question. I don't have beef with anyone who likes Monero, even though one might think so.
This is an honest and neutral question. I don't have beef with anyone who likes Monero, even though one might think so.
Hello,
To be honest, I have no idea if XMR lacks innovation or has innovation. I am investing into it because of the community. Money is a social contract and if there are enough people thinking a commodity X is money then it is money. Gold coins has not that much innovation but I guess there are still some people thinking it is money. Surely it has been perceived as money no more than around 100 years. You can still buy those coins from dealers and ebay.
Money doesn't need innovation but it simply needs to be usable, safe and secure and above all, it needs people who are willing to collect it as much as possible (greed - yes it is a healthy thing despite some people might find this controversial).
April 16, 2016, 02:22:48 PM
Apparently it's impossible to trade cryptocurrency without being registered to this looney bin of a forum.
What a crock of shit you're spilling here. Another nutjob for my ignore list.
Monero should relaunch because of a) the despicable botnet mining it clearly endorses and b) the even more despicable intentional cripplemining scam at the beginning.
What a crock of shit you're spilling here. Another nutjob for my ignore list.
Monero should relaunch because of a) the despicable botnet mining it clearly endorses and b) the even more despicable intentional cripplemining scam at the beginning.
April 16, 2016, 12:37:15 PM
@TrueCryptonaire: Any thoughts on the lack of actual innovation? Ring signatures weren't invented by Monero, neither the announced to be implemented Confidential Transactions. Can you name any (killer) feature that didn't exist before Monero came to invent it? And if not, why are you so ardent to support it?
This is an honest and neutral question. I don't have beef with everyone who likes Monero, even though one might think so.
This is an honest and neutral question. I don't have beef with everyone who likes Monero, even though one might think so.
April 16, 2016, 11:58:59 AM
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