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I can not understand the title. "Don't need to HOLD or trade Bitcoin" so what to do if you do neither hold nor trade?

Bitcoin then we do regard that however doesn't imply that those expressions of yours would truly be ordinarily ready to persuade out individuals who had been supporting and having positive perspectives about bitcoin potential in longer viewpoint. Telling that bitcoin is only an air pocket is by all accounts a misrepresentation of the truth and nobody would have faith in it any longer except if it comes from a specialist in financial matters that truly don't care for bitcoin.
Bitcoin is the perfect cryptocurrency to hold if you buy it from your money. And if you don't have plan to use that capital in next 4 to 10 years. Then you are free to invest and free from pressure of daily expense or ugent need calls.

Hold your bitcoin and enjoy halvings, fomo every four years. I believe if you can be disciplined and do it, your capital will increase many folds very easily.

When you hold bitcoin, store it in non custodial wallet as Electrum. Back up mnemonic seed of your wallet.
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Bitcoin then we do regard that however doesn't imply that those expressions of yours would truly be ordinarily ready to persuade out individuals who had been supporting and having positive perspectives about bitcoin potential in longer viewpoint. Telling that bitcoin is only an air pocket is by all accounts a misrepresentation of the truth and nobody would have faith in it any longer except if it comes from a specialist in financial matters that truly don't care for bitcoin.
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Trading cryto is worth the attempt. No investment guarantees you 100% profit so is cryto trading but once you understand your personal strategy and develop on it you keep your profit on a constant flow. Metals and indices also have high volatility and people still trade them how much more cryto. Between holding and trading I feel it's the choice of every individual and what such thinks about crypto generally.
I think it is true what you say that every individual certainly has a different mindset in responding to what will be done, because based on their experience they can also determine what will be done. so whatever is desired, of course, cannot be equated with one another.

crypto is clearly very profitable compared to other investments, but does he want to do day trading or does he just want to hold on when the price increases and then sell. all clearly have actions that they think are good because they are often done. For those who are familiar with trading, obviously they prefer to do it even with no small risk, but they want to do it because they feel that what they are doing is what they know and not necessarily that they are happy just to hold it, and vice versa, those who like to hold back will do the same thing.
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Trading cryto is worth the attempt. No investment guarantees you 100% profit so is cryto trading but once you understand your personal strategy and develop on it you keep your profit on a constant flow. Metals and indices also have high volatility and people still trade them how much more cryto. Between holding and trading I feel it's the choice of every individual and what such thinks about crypto generally.
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So basically you just said why ethereum is better than Bitcoin in some respects and sectors, well, there's nothing wrong in it, but the accusations or flaws you mentioned about Bitcoin like market manipulation, they don't happen to alt coins? Just like what happened with Doge, it can happen with any coin and yeah, the top richest people do have great influence over it. But we can't do nothing, except wait for the price to go up and not sell in panic, at the least. I do get what you are saying but that's not enough to convince someone not to hold or trade it completely Smiley
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If I just only have a lot of money I will surely buy Bitcoin then hold in the long terms 100%. But that's not my real status I am not belong to the rich people. Because being rich or have a lot of money is an advantage to hold Bitcoin. But Altcoins is there for us to earn still in Bitcoin, In fact, it will be faster to earn Bitcoin if we go through with the altcoins and this most of the time did by the community traders here in the forum.
sr. member
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No, not at all, I don't own Dogecoin yet I am observing it because it is surely a phenomenon. We can say that with certainty. But saying Bitcoin tops it all and is the most profitable is just not true at this point anymore. It has nothing to do with Bitcoin's status and its qualities, it is just an assertion of how the situation right now is.
A good thing to you then, Dogecoin will surely dump sooner or later.

Anyway, we can't deny that Bitcoin could remain profitable but for some cases, actually, for the Bullish season, people had to choose altcoins (some) for a reason that they can make huge money than Bitcoin. Many had taken this advantage, I know they are doing right but could be just for a while. As a trader, we need to be wise and practical, we need to take the best chance before we miss it, that is how we survive and succeed.
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Bitcoin and Ethereum are both good assets and if you keep on saying that ethereum is better than bitcoin then why would ethereum cant take over the value of bitcoin, Bitcoin is more decentralized than ethereum so what you are talking about? You also said that it is better to hold ethereum than holding bitcoin, I don't know why you keep trusting Ethereum over bitcoin, bitcoin already prove itself to a lot of people, bitcoin is now used as a means of payment in many companies.
Yes bitcoin is the best currency to hold depending on the price of bitcoin the price of ethereum and other altcoins increases. Ethereum is the best of all cryptocurrencies but bitcoin tops all currencies in the crypto market. Bitcoin is more profitable for long term investments why not trade in that currency and move forward with faith.

I am not sure I get what you are saying? Bitcoin tops all currencies in the market, but in what sense? It is more profitable? Those times are long over. Congratulations to DOGE holders right?
Maybe we can say that Bitcoin is not profitable compared to some altcoins at this time, Bitcoin doesn't pump by x100, unlike altcoins but to know which one is more sustaining, no altcoins can do it.

Thanks for pointing out Dogecoin...are these people are profiting? It looks like you got fooled by Elon Musk and keep following him. I suggest to you that you better sold your Doge if you still have, never waits that it become dead just like before. Doge could be in great now but wondering if it will able to sustain for a couple of months.

No, not at all, I don't own Dogecoin yet I am observing it because it is surely a phenomenon. We can say that with certainty. But saying Bitcoin tops it all and is the most profitable is just not true at this point anymore. It has nothing to do with Bitcoin's status and its qualities, it is just an assertion of how the situation right now is.
People are really that badly blinded with that Dogecoin hype which it did result into those kind of decisions and even myself was observing for the price situation when the hype is over.There are really differences in between Bitcoin and other altcoins when it comes to potential.

Altcoins as surely serve as an alternative but we should really be careful on dealing with it because not all coins would really be having that potential.

Bitcoin is primary choice but it seems people are really doing lots or sorts of things for them to exchange it back again on BTC form.Therefore,
main demand or interest will surely stick into this one no matter what.
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Bitcoin and Ethereum are both good assets and if you keep on saying that ethereum is better than bitcoin then why would ethereum cant take over the value of bitcoin, Bitcoin is more decentralized than ethereum so what you are talking about? You also said that it is better to hold ethereum than holding bitcoin, I don't know why you keep trusting Ethereum over bitcoin, bitcoin already prove itself to a lot of people, bitcoin is now used as a means of payment in many companies.
Yes bitcoin is the best currency to hold depending on the price of bitcoin the price of ethereum and other altcoins increases. Ethereum is the best of all cryptocurrencies but bitcoin tops all currencies in the crypto market. Bitcoin is more profitable for long term investments why not trade in that currency and move forward with faith.

I am not sure I get what you are saying? Bitcoin tops all currencies in the market, but in what sense? It is more profitable? Those times are long over. Congratulations to DOGE holders right?
Maybe we can say that Bitcoin is not profitable compared to some altcoins at this time, Bitcoin doesn't pump by x100, unlike altcoins but to know which one is more sustaining, no altcoins can do it.

Thanks for pointing out Dogecoin...are these people are profiting? It looks like you got fooled by Elon Musk and keep following him. I suggest to you that you better sold your Doge if you still have, never waits that it become dead just like before. Doge could be in great now but wondering if it will able to sustain for a couple of months.

No, not at all, I don't own Dogecoin yet I am observing it because it is surely a phenomenon. We can say that with certainty. But saying Bitcoin tops it all and is the most profitable is just not true at this point anymore. It has nothing to do with Bitcoin's status and its qualities, it is just an assertion of how the situation right now is.
sr. member
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for those who work and are busy, I think there is no need to trade, only hold crypto currencies that you really like,
with a saving system you can also do it, yes when you pay, set aside 10% or 50% to buy crypto currency,
and buy it enough Just waiting for the price to dump, don't be greedy, take this opportunity or opportunity as a foothold for your investment
Even with work you can still trading like normally just set a scheduled time for it, I have a regular job in the morning and when it's an evening I always check my assets if I gain profit or loss.
There is some website/app that offers a service for those who want to check their asset with some data included about the coins you invested. It's something like a portfolio. I've one on my phone too, it's easy for me to see my all assets.
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Bitcoin then we do regard that however doesn't imply that those expressions of yours would truly be regularly ready to persuade out individuals who had been supporting and having positive perspectives about bitcoin potential in longer angle. That is the reason it is smarter to hold anyway the sum that we can stand to lose. What's more, I am certain that Bitcoin will get another opportunity to better constantly cost again later on.
I agree on that it is really smart to hold than nothing. We can really gain in holding, if we are going to look at the bitcoin price we can see that bitcoin is really a good coin to hold based on its price from 2018 till present , big profit comes when we have patience and hold, the only reason why some people get loss is the lack of patience and trust, however we cannot really blame them for crypto is not stable.
Holding is one of the good decisions and if we have the right strategy of course it will make a profit,
bitcoin is unquestionably the future and as you said we can see the price till now bitcoin is the king of crypto,
what is clear in holding bitcoin we have to be patient
^ Because holding is the safest way than trading, there is nothing to lose until you will be decided to sell your coin, if that is under the price from which you purchased your BTC, that is a loss, but if that is higher from which your purchase, it would have a potential to gain profit of course. So for now, it is your call if when you sell your coin, at the right time or during the dip, and accept your loss. Nevertheless, on the other side, if you are good at technical analysis or even fundamental analysis, trading is good for you. All of these are depending on your skills.
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Bitcoin then we do regard that however doesn't imply that those expressions of yours would truly be regularly ready to persuade out individuals who had been supporting and having positive perspectives about bitcoin potential in longer angle. That is the reason it is smarter to hold anyway the sum that we can stand to lose. What's more, I am certain that Bitcoin will get another opportunity to better constantly cost again later on.
I agree on that it is really smart to hold than nothing. We can really gain in holding, if we are going to look at the bitcoin price we can see that bitcoin is really a good coin to hold based on its price from 2018 till present , big profit comes when we have patience and hold, the only reason why some people get loss is the lack of patience and trust, however we cannot really blame them for crypto is not stable.
Holding is one of the good decisions and if we have the right strategy of course it will make a profit,
bitcoin is unquestionably the future and as you said we can see the price till now bitcoin is the king of crypto,
what is clear in holding bitcoin we have to be patient
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for those who work and are busy, I think there is no need to trade, only hold crypto currencies that you really like,
with a saving system you can also do it, yes when you pay, set aside 10% or 50% to buy crypto currency,
and buy it enough Just waiting for the price to dump, don't be greedy, take this opportunity or opportunity as a foothold for your investment
sr. member
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Bitcoin then we do regard that however doesn't imply that those expressions of yours would truly be regularly ready to persuade out individuals who had been supporting and having positive perspectives about bitcoin potential in longer angle. That is the reason it is smarter to hold anyway the sum that we can stand to lose. What's more, I am certain that Bitcoin will get another opportunity to better constantly cost again later on.
I agree on that it is really smart to hold than nothing. We can really gain in holding, if we are going to look at the bitcoin price we can see that bitcoin is really a good coin to hold based on its price from 2018 till present , big profit comes when we have patience and hold, the only reason why some people get loss is the lack of patience and trust, however we cannot really blame them for crypto is not stable.
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Bitcoin then we do regard that however doesn't imply that those expressions of yours would truly be regularly ready to persuade out individuals who had been supporting and having positive perspectives about bitcoin potential in longer angle. That is the reason it is smarter to hold anyway the sum that we can stand to lose. What's more, I am certain that Bitcoin will get another opportunity to better constantly cost again later on.
sr. member
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Bitcoin and Ethereum are both good assets and if you keep on saying that ethereum is better than bitcoin then why would ethereum cant take over the value of bitcoin, Bitcoin is more decentralized than ethereum so what you are talking about? You also said that it is better to hold ethereum than holding bitcoin, I don't know why you keep trusting Ethereum over bitcoin, bitcoin already prove itself to a lot of people, bitcoin is now used as a means of payment in many companies.
Yes bitcoin is the best currency to hold depending on the price of bitcoin the price of ethereum and other altcoins increases. Ethereum is the best of all cryptocurrencies but bitcoin tops all currencies in the crypto market. Bitcoin is more profitable for long term investments why not trade in that currency and move forward with faith.

I am not sure I get what you are saying? Bitcoin tops all currencies in the market, but in what sense? It is more profitable? Those times are long over. Congratulations to DOGE holders right?
Maybe we can say that Bitcoin is not profitable compared to some altcoins at this time, Bitcoin doesn't pump by x100, unlike altcoins but to know which one is more sustaining, no altcoins can do it.

Thanks for pointing out Dogecoin...are these people are profiting? It looks like you got fooled by Elon Musk and keep following him. I suggest to you that you better sold your Doge if you still have, never waits that it become dead just like before. Doge could be in great now but wondering if it will able to sustain for a couple of months.
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Bitcoin and Ethereum are both good assets and if you keep on saying that ethereum is better than bitcoin then why would ethereum cant take over the value of bitcoin, Bitcoin is more decentralized than ethereum so what you are talking about? You also said that it is better to hold ethereum than holding bitcoin, I don't know why you keep trusting Ethereum over bitcoin, bitcoin already prove itself to a lot of people, bitcoin is now used as a means of payment in many companies.
Yes bitcoin is the best currency to hold depending on the price of bitcoin the price of ethereum and other altcoins increases. Ethereum is the best of all cryptocurrencies but bitcoin tops all currencies in the crypto market. Bitcoin is more profitable for long term investments why not trade in that currency and move forward with faith.

I am not sure I get what you are saying? Bitcoin tops all currencies in the market, but in what sense? It is more profitable? Those times are long over. Congratulations to DOGE holders right?
sr. member
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Bitcoin and Ethereum are both good assets and if you keep on saying that ethereum is better than bitcoin then why would ethereum cant take over the value of bitcoin, Bitcoin is more decentralized than ethereum so what you are talking about? You also said that it is better to hold ethereum than holding bitcoin, I don't know why you keep trusting Ethereum over bitcoin, bitcoin already prove itself to a lot of people, bitcoin is now used as a means of payment in many companies.
Yes bitcoin is the best currency to hold depending on the price of bitcoin the price of ethereum and other altcoins increases. Ethereum is the best of all cryptocurrencies but bitcoin tops all currencies in the crypto market. Bitcoin is more profitable for long term investments why not trade in that currency and move forward with faith.
hero member
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Well, that's pretty stupid calling bitcoin a relic of the past even though the price says so otherwise and to everyone who sees this, do not be deceived with the title, you can still hodl bitcoin and it will be much better because the prices that it can go up is really high compared to altcoins that you might be risking your investment and ending up with nothing.
I'm going to believe that OP is just playing us, trying to catch people who are weak and those who could still stand even during the crisis.
People who believe and entrusted Bitcoin for the future, don't mind it for sure but for those who still don't understand the volatility of this coin will surely get pranks.
As we know that trading and holding are the way to make money from here and that that will be the reason also why crypto exists. Because if this is only nonsense, nobody will take this.
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I want to share some thoughts about the reasons why HODLing Bitcoin is risky, and why you don't need to build any TA strategies for trading Bitcoin.

First: why not to HODL Bitcoin?
HODLing require from you to hold long position for years. You assume that the price will go up long-term. But why it should go up? General reason for that assumption is that many and many people, enthusiasts, developers, investors, organizations of the whole world get to recognize Bitcoin more. This results to encreasing money flow and price. But in essence, what Bitcoin exactly can give? Of course, decentralizaton, self emission, a bit privacy. But Bitcoin lack some features, that other cryptocurrencies have. Bitcoin can't give people enough transaction speed and convinience. Bitcoin can't give developers convinient methods to build applications. Bitcoin can't help organizations and investors get rid of the fear that this is all just a bubble.
Bitcoin is important step to revolution of the whole financial system, but not the last. It exists now, because not many people understand that Bitcoin is relic of the past. Ethereum is much more promising than Bitcoin with it's smart-contracts. HODL Ethereum not Bitcoin, when the disaster comes, Bitcoin won't survive.

Second: why not to trade Bitcoin?
How are you predict price of Bitcoin? TA indicators?
Ranges? Support/Resistance? Price action? Candle patterns?
We all know about bad statistic of these tools. Almost anyone can't say why they using RSI, MACD, MA, CCI, Bollinger bands and other indicators. Why tringle pattern should end in desired direction? How these tools can help you predict, statistically unpredictible price? Price doesn't owe you something.
Price drives by big speculators, sharks, whales, market makers and other monsters of crypto ocean. They are trying to eat each other. Doesn't you noticed that Bitcoin pumps when new antminer ASICs are sold? You think that Elon Musk that smart to buy Bitcoin? He's smarter! Hype of Bitcoin is rising, why not to sell Tesla cars for Bitcoin?
But just a quick and realistic glance at the Bitcoin price chart of last several months gives clear vision of situation:PUMP!. And what happens after pump? Have someone an answer? Sit down, take A+, of course a DUMP!
You need to have insider info. With that, you'll get more chances. Or be the shark, while this almost impossible.
You can keep trading TA of course, scalping works in every market. But how many succeded traders do you know? Those youtubers? They get money from traffic, adverticement and affiliate programs, not from your success.
If you don't beleave in the future of cryptocurrencies, just want to earn some paper money, then HODL Ethereum or speculate with top altcoins with high liquidity and volatility.

Tell me your opinion. Wink

Edit;
For better understanding of topic, you need to read all replies, cause there are some clarifications regarding this topic.

And what is your best suggestion rather than holding and trading? To quit Bitcoin and this entire crypto industry? Although everyone has their own opinion and we respect that, but I disagree about your statement on why we should not hold or trade BTC. Our goal is simple, to make money. So either holding or trading, we make money but no astronomical guaranteed returns.

Yes I hold Ethereum since last year and I’m glad that you are trying to encourage the community here. But you can’t disrespect the almighty Bitcoin. Do you think Ethereum would ever exist without Satoshi Nakamoto creating Bitcoin? You should be thankful instead.

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