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well done trolls....^^
^^ Good choice.
Due to the large number off-topic replies in this forum thread we had taken the action to open our own forum.
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If a moderator sees this post, we would like to kindly ask him to close this topic. We will not reply here anymore...
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Google 'torturous interference' to get a clue of the world of hurt you are heading for.
You are talking about like we forced them to sell the ASICs. Also, I repeat and please remember that we only have the ASICs from them and we produce our own PCBs.
Tortious interference, also known as intentional interference with contractual relations, in the common law of torts, occurs when a person intentionally damages the plaintiff's contractual or other business relationships. This tort is broadly divided into two categories, one specific to contractual relationships (irrespective of whether they involve business), and the other specific to business relationships or activities (irrespective of whether they involve a contract).
Thanks!
Ask your lawyer how it pertains to you taking delivery of chips ahead of people with contracts for delivery before you from Hashfast.
It's not their fault. HashFast can do whatever they with with their chips. It's not BE's responsability and duty to verify where are the chips coming from. A judge can only decide if HashFast acted in good faith or not when they sold customer's chips to BE, but BE has 0 guilt.
You are both wrong. If Black miner, or MrTeal take delivery of chips knowing that they are being diverted from customers owed delivery ahead of them they become liable under the legal principle of torturous interference. That makes them party to any judgements against hashfast, and could expose them to unlimited liability in the process.
What i was saying? How can they really (100%) know that the chips are diverted from customers? They have no means of checking. Or at least i can't see one. A good and well informed judge can decide that with proper subpoenas, but BE can't prove/check anything.
Edit: Please tell me how can BE know "beyond reasonable doubt" that HashFail is selling them customers chips.
And then even if they did know it was 'other customers chips', that doesn't create any liability. The order queue is none of their business, unless they actively paid more with the discussion that they could skip the queue.
dogie.... you really remind me of the grandpa's saying.
Its the court of law and not the court of justice.
So even what you're saying fit perfectly under law, its against what i believe. I'm sure i'm the only one here.... everyone only cares about money.
Just to make sure, the other paying customers ordered chips or full miners? They are different products listed with different prices. By the way, not taking anyone's part here, but I hardly believe BE will hold any responsibility for HF misbehavior, no matter how many trials will be won against HF.
Google 'torturous interference' to get a clue of the world of hurt you are heading for.
You are talking about like we forced them to sell the ASICs. Also, I repeat and please remember that we only have the ASICs from them and we produce our own PCBs.
Tortious interference, also known as intentional interference with contractual relations, in the common law of torts, occurs when a person intentionally damages the plaintiff's contractual or other business relationships. This tort is broadly divided into two categories, one specific to contractual relationships (irrespective of whether they involve business), and the other specific to business relationships or activities (irrespective of whether they involve a contract).
Thanks!
Ask your lawyer how it pertains to you taking delivery of chips ahead of people with contracts for delivery before you from Hashfast.
It's not their fault. HashFast can do whatever they with with their chips. It's not BE's responsability and duty to verify where are the chips coming from. A judge can only decide if HashFast acted in good faith or not when they sold customer's chips to BE, but BE has 0 guilt.
You are both wrong. If Black miner, or MrTeal take delivery of chips knowing that they are being diverted from customers owed delivery ahead of them they become liable under the legal principle of torturous interference. That makes them party to any judgements against hashfast, and could expose them to unlimited liability in the process.
What i was saying? How can they really (100%) know that the chips are diverted from customers? They have no means of checking. Or at least i can't see one. A good and well informed judge can decide that with proper subpoenas, but BE can't prove/check anything.
Edit: Please tell me how can BE know "beyond reasonable doubt" that HashFail is selling them customers chips.
And then even if they did know it was 'other customers chips', that doesn't create any liability. The order queue is none of their business, unless they actively paid more with the discussion that they could skip the queue.
Google 'torturous interference' to get a clue of the world of hurt you are heading for.
You are talking about like we forced them to sell the ASICs. Also, I repeat and please remember that we only have the ASICs from them and we produce our own PCBs.
Tortious interference, also known as intentional interference with contractual relations, in the common law of torts, occurs when a person intentionally damages the plaintiff's contractual or other business relationships. This tort is broadly divided into two categories, one specific to contractual relationships (irrespective of whether they involve business), and the other specific to business relationships or activities (irrespective of whether they involve a contract).
Thanks!
Ask your lawyer how it pertains to you taking delivery of chips ahead of people with contracts for delivery before you from Hashfast.
It's not their fault. HashFast can do whatever they with with their chips. It's not BE's responsability and duty to verify where are the chips coming from. A judge can only decide if HashFast acted in good faith or not when they sold customer's chips to BE, but BE has 0 guilt.
You are both wrong. If Black miner, or MrTeal take delivery of chips knowing that they are being diverted from customers owed delivery ahead of them they become liable under the legal principle of torturous interference. That makes them party to any judgements against hashfast, and could expose them to unlimited liability in the process.
What i was saying? How can they really (100%) know that the chips are diverted from customers? They have no means of checking. Or at least i can't see one. A good and well informed judge can decide that with proper subpoenas, but BE can't prove/check anything.
Edit: Please tell me how can BE know "beyond reasonable doubt" that HashFail is selling them customers chips.
Google 'torturous interference' to get a clue of the world of hurt you are heading for.
You are talking about like we forced them to sell the ASICs. Also, I repeat and please remember that we only have the ASICs from them and we produce our own PCBs.
Tortious interference, also known as intentional interference with contractual relations, in the common law of torts, occurs when a person intentionally damages the plaintiff's contractual or other business relationships. This tort is broadly divided into two categories, one specific to contractual relationships (irrespective of whether they involve business), and the other specific to business relationships or activities (irrespective of whether they involve a contract).
Thanks!
Ask your lawyer how it pertains to you taking delivery of chips ahead of people with contracts for delivery before you from Hashfast.
It's not their fault. HashFast can do whatever they with with their chips. It's not BE's responsability and duty to verify where are the chips coming from. A judge can only decide if HashFast acted in good faith or not when they sold customer's chips to BE, but BE has 0 guilt.
You are both wrong. If Black miner, or MrTeal take delivery of chips knowing that they are being diverted from customers owed delivery ahead of them they become liable under the legal principle of torturous interference. That makes them party to any judgements against hashfast, and could expose them to unlimited liability in the process.
Google 'torturous interference' to get a clue of the world of hurt you are heading for.
You are talking about like we forced them to sell the ASICs. Also, I repeat and please remember that we only have the ASICs from them and we produce our own PCBs.
Tortious interference, also known as intentional interference with contractual relations, in the common law of torts, occurs when a person intentionally damages the plaintiff's contractual or other business relationships. This tort is broadly divided into two categories, one specific to contractual relationships (irrespective of whether they involve business), and the other specific to business relationships or activities (irrespective of whether they involve a contract).
Thanks!
Ask your lawyer how it pertains to you taking delivery of chips ahead of people with contracts for delivery before you from Hashfast.
It's not their fault. HashFast can do whatever they with with their chips. It's not BE's responsability and duty to verify where are the chips coming from. A judge can only decide if HashFast acted in good faith or not when they sold customer's chips to BE, but BE has 0 guilt.
Google 'torturous interference' to get a clue of the world of hurt you are heading for.
You are talking about like we forced them to sell the ASICs. Also, I repeat and please remember that we only have the ASICs from them and we produce our own PCBs.
Tortious interference, also known as intentional interference with contractual relations, in the common law of torts, occurs when a person intentionally damages the plaintiff's contractual or other business relationships. This tort is broadly divided into two categories, one specific to contractual relationships (irrespective of whether they involve business), and the other specific to business relationships or activities (irrespective of whether they involve a contract).
Thanks!
Ask your lawyer how it pertains to you taking delivery of chips ahead of people with contracts for delivery before you from Hashfast.
It's not their fault. HashFast can do whatever they with with their chips. It's not BE's responsability and duty to verify where are the chips coming from. A judge can only decide if HashFast acted in good faith or not when they sold customer's chips to BE, but BE has 0 guilt.
The only person liable is Hashfast if that were the case. There obviously was a request made for chips and I'm about 99.9% sure during any conversation was Black Miner telling Hashfast man screw the customer give us chips first. Also Hashfast is US based correct? Black Miner is located in Romania so then it becomes international for any group with an attorney already.
Back to my point who all owned Avalon 55nm setups here? How many manufactures alone got dicked over on that deal yet nobody cared running the loads of clones from China.
Back to my point who all owned Avalon 55nm setups here? How many manufactures alone got dicked over on that deal yet nobody cared running the loads of clones from China.
Google 'torturous interference' to get a clue of the world of hurt you are heading for.
You are talking about like we forced them to sell the ASICs. Also, I repeat and please remember that we only have the ASICs from them and we produce our own PCBs.
Tortious interference, also known as intentional interference with contractual relations, in the common law of torts, occurs when a person intentionally damages the plaintiff's contractual or other business relationships. This tort is broadly divided into two categories, one specific to contractual relationships (irrespective of whether they involve business), and the other specific to business relationships or activities (irrespective of whether they involve a contract).
Thanks!
Ask your lawyer how it pertains to you taking delivery of chips ahead of people with contracts for delivery before you from Hashfast.
Google 'torturous interference' to get a clue of the world of hurt you are heading for.
You are talking about like we forced them to sell the ASICs. Also, I repeat and please remember that we only have the ASICs from them and we produce our own PCBs.
Tortious interference, also known as intentional interference with contractual relations, in the common law of torts, occurs when a person intentionally damages the plaintiff's contractual or other business relationships. This tort is broadly divided into two categories, one specific to contractual relationships (irrespective of whether they involve business), and the other specific to business relationships or activities (irrespective of whether they involve a contract).
Thanks!
How many of you guys that got screwed by Hashfast own Avalon based machines, or have owned one?
With Hashfast as your supplier, you should have a hunch "is more than OK" will in hindsight look naive
We understand that some people have issues with Hashfast, but as long as we have all the needed components, including the ASICs, we don't see where the issue is.
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The issue is pretty simple. Hashfast has failed to deliver hardware that has already been paid for by their customers. If you are taking chips from Hashfast now, you are interfering with the Hashfast customer's right to have their purchases fulfilled. This means that you will be party to the active lawsuits against hashfast.
Google 'torturous interference' to get a clue of the world of hurt you are heading for.
Anyone buying from you is likely to have their gear mired in the disaster as well.
Black Minor is just a guilty as HF, they are helping HF to keep their circus going by supplying them with needed funds. In the mean time the original customers of HF are left in the cold.
And yes, there is no way in pleasing the original HF customers, other than supplying them with either the hardware we ordered (which now seems to be in Romania) or a full refund.
As BombaUcigasa said, we do think that people are never satisfied. I don't know why we are accused of different things because we are using HashFast ASICs.
This is our last post related to ASICs and Hashfast. Please discuss our products or please ignore this forum thread.
Thank you!
Will it ROI ?
The anger should be directed at HF rather than black miner, they are customers just the same as us. Its up to HF to decide in what crooked way they want to deliver things.
Black Minor is just a guilty as HF, they are helping HF to keep their circus going by supplying them with needed funds. In the mean time the original customers of HF are left in the cold.
And yes, there is no way in pleasing the original HF customers, other than supplying them with either the hardware we ordered (which now seems to be in Romania) or a full refund.
We have enough ASICs for our first Batch production for Black Miner Tower and Black Miner Prime.
Of course we've had to pay for them upfront. The PCBs are manufactured locally and this is the only thing we are waiting for before we deliver all orders.
Here are some pictures for you: http://imgur.com/a/XTqRs
Of course we've had to pay for them upfront. The PCBs are manufactured locally and this is the only thing we are waiting for before we deliver all orders.
Here are some pictures for you: http://imgur.com/a/XTqRs
Great, you should have posted a picture earlier to clear up the confusion
So you are sitting on about BTC 400 of hardware that HF should have shipped to me and not resell again to you
Black Elec, can you respond to my PM dated the 14th please?
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