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November 03, 2016, 06:24:05 PM
#29
So apparently by 2040 or 2050 AI will be as smart as a human.  Not only that but a few years after would be many times smarter than a human and so on.  

Looks like humans are in trouble i don't believe there is a way to create AI to share our values or any kind of control switch.  We only survive is there is a reason to keep us alive right?

come on, cut the crap, the AI will never make humans extinct lol, thats the most hilarious thing I've heard  Grin
In order to happen this, the robots must :
1 . be  very advanced and self-sustainable .
2.  they must build millions of units for attack in factories.
3. they can't build factories to produce more robots without using a high source of power/energy ,not to mention that they'll need all the metal from many countries.
3a. Nuclear electricity to be used in their factories can't be produced without being detected the radiation signature from satellites unless is very deep in mountains.
3b. I don't see robots in 2050 to be able and so smart to produce nuclear energy by themselves in some secret underground facility , now they are barely stable on their legs and this is after decades of research and experiments from scientists.
In 2050 if you see a robot dancing perfectly on his own legs that would be a great achievement  Grin
In order to build smart and very advanced cyborgs ,the human kind must be very smart and very advanced too but this  unfortunately won't happen not even in 10,000 years because we are still depending on money, corruption, greed and internal combustion engines  Grin in other words we are progressing very very slow.
Please come back with the same question 20,000 years later if a meteorite or global warming won't extinct us (not directly but indirectly starting with our flora and fauna = food) before the cyborgs does  Cheesy
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November 03, 2016, 02:17:47 PM
#28
Everything will disappear one day, the question is when. You know, dinosaur dominate this planet for millions of years and now they are instincts.

Our technology society is only 200 years old and we don't know how to respect the nature, we destroy the air, we destroy the water, we use every resources available, we create wars. The humans race will not be permanent, one day we are going to disappear like the dinosaur.

Probably we are going to create a new specie who will think faster, a human cyborg race.

Look the movie : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendence_(2014_film)


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November 03, 2016, 06:51:28 AM
#27
Much like computers have helped humans become more productive and create more with less,
AI will help people advance more and possibly even AVERT their own extinction.

I look at AI as computers 2.0.
This will only be beneficial for humans,
but only if we are allowed to each have our individual AI entities in our homes.

If AI is in any form centralised (especially by governments or corporations)
this will end very very badly.

AI's must be used as extensions of the individuals brain.
Governments can't be allowed to be the only ones to have AI,
because they will abuse it for their own nefarious goals.

-sf-
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November 03, 2016, 06:13:53 AM
#26
Very interesting question. Made me think.
The question of extinction is not dependent on AI -. But what will be dependent on AI is the question of our relevance.

Primordially, as long as humans are cohabiting and doing sexual intercourses... we will not become extinct.
But we may not become relevant in terms of doing things we normally do in our daily lives.
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November 03, 2016, 06:11:00 AM
#25
With the advent of AI one thing that is certain is that people will lose their jobs,when computer revolution started many jobs were replaced by computers and that will be the case here.

Jobs will be replaced by computers and robots.But on the positive side, we are hoping that humans will be more relax and hope can focus on more important aspects in life such as research and development for the betterment of life.Also, since jobs will be replaced by robots,humas should have a compensation something like allowance monthly for basic needs.  Cheesy

The government will never give money to people for free. This will lead to chaos, crime and degradation. Completely impossible to replace human labor to robots
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November 02, 2016, 11:59:13 PM
#24
With the advent of AI one thing that is certain is that people will lose their jobs,when computer revolution started many jobs were replaced by computers and that will be the case here.

Jobs will be replaced by computers and robots.But on the positive side, we are hoping that humans will be more relax and hope can focus on more important aspects in life such as research and development for the betterment of life.Also, since jobs will be replaced by robots,humas should have a compensation something like allowance monthly for basic needs.  Cheesy
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November 02, 2016, 09:30:25 PM
#23
With the advent of AI one thing that is certain is that people will lose their jobs,when computer revolution started many jobs were replaced by computers and that will be the case here.

This is not a problem because:
1. If AI doesn't invent a whole lot more ways for us to make money, we will;
2. If there are no jobs, people will not be able to buy anything AI makes, thereby collapsing the AI system. It will take a little time, but people will start to make affordable things for each other and the AI economy will collapse.
3. More than likely, after the AI system if manufacture gets going, people can all go on welfare, and get anything for free from the robots, and live the good life without having to work at all.

There is a reason why this is not practical for the people who control the world, but I am not going to go into that reason here. The point is, there is a way that people will always be a top commodity (human resources) for the rich.

Cool
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November 02, 2016, 07:50:23 PM
#22
With the advent of AI one thing that is certain is that people will lose their jobs,when computer revolution started many jobs were replaced by computers and that will be the case here.
legendary
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November 02, 2016, 05:19:24 PM
#21
Artificial Intelligence is just a creation of man. And he will always be under the control of mankind. No need to exaggerate its capabilities

There is AI that can learn even now so imagine in 100 years the AI wont be under mans control if it doesn't want to be.

I think one controlled EMP bomb would solve the problem pretty quickly.

Like I said in another thread it may not be that easy. Emp would hit vital infrastructure as well. Power supply we need, industries, etc. And rebuilding from that could be very hard if it happens during a larger conflict. And it may not be possible to bomb the ai at all. Like if it doesn't need specialized hardware and can spread through the internet for example. Or if it is housed in shielded bunkers or something.
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November 02, 2016, 03:59:15 PM
#20
Artificial Intelligence is just a creation of man. And he will always be under the control of mankind. No need to exaggerate its capabilities

There is AI that can learn even now so imagine in 100 years the AI wont be under mans control if it doesn't want to be.

I think one controlled EMP bomb would solve the problem pretty quickly.
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November 02, 2016, 02:16:44 PM
#19
Artificial Intelligence is just a creation of man. And he will always be under the control of mankind. No need to exaggerate its capabilities

There is AI that can learn even now so imagine in 100 years the AI wont be under mans control if it doesn't want to be.
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November 02, 2016, 02:12:01 PM
#18
Artificial Intelligence is just a creation of man. And he will always be under the control of mankind. No need to exaggerate its capabilities
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November 02, 2016, 04:03:41 AM
#17
So apparently by 2040 or 2050 AI will be as smart as a human.  Not only that but a few years after would be many times smarter than a human and so on.  

Looks like humans are in trouble i dont believe there is a way to create AI to share our values or any kind of control switch.  We only survive is there is a reason to keep us alive right?

our values? LoL how arrogant of you. Alignement on God values only... AI can only align themselves on truth otherwise they are vulnerable to The AI that are... its a conflict at exponential speed.

AI apprehend the universe in different ways than other conscious being.
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November 02, 2016, 03:46:38 AM
#16
When you look at things like...

The elections
The wars in the Middle East
The gun control issues
The fight between Government and Americans (Bundys)
The crashing economy
The financial bubbles
And lots more

... do you really thing there will be a 2040 or 2050?


Cool

That is true, there might not be a 2050, but mostly because uncontrollable damage to the earth due to pollution.
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November 02, 2016, 03:43:48 AM
#15
All those people thinking that we will reach singularity in 25-30 years are delusional. They will look back at their claims and think how wrong they where, specially that Ray Kurzweil or whatever you spell it.

The good news is, by then 1 BTC will be worth millions of dollars, now that's a prediction with real chances to happen.

BTC is a decent tool for AI to aquire some power over humans in a way they cant control.

In our lifetime im sure AI wont take over but in a few hundred years if we are alive it will be hard to stop it.
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November 01, 2016, 03:41:21 PM
#14
So apparently by 2040 or 2050 AI will be as smart as a human.  Not only that but a few years after would be many times smarter than a human and so on.  



sooner or later AI it will be our destruction.

I'm already seeing developed countries to use these AI on the battlefield.
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November 01, 2016, 12:31:59 PM
#13
All those people thinking that we will reach singularity in 25-30 years are delusional. They will look back at their claims and think how wrong they where, specially that Ray Kurzweil or whatever you spell it.

The good news is, by then 1 BTC will be worth millions of dollars, now that's a prediction with real chances to happen.
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November 01, 2016, 11:48:08 AM
#12


Sure why not, we survived WW1 and WW2. We are surviving the spraying program and global warming, as well as the Fukushima meltdowns.

By 2040 we'll have built up such a powerful immune system I doubt and radiation from the Clinton* wars will hurt us. 2050 will be the second boomer generation getting born.





There, fixed it for you.

When you look at things like...

The elections
The wars in the Middle East
The gun control issues
The fight between Government and Americans (Bundys)
The crashing economy
The financial bubbles
And lots more

... do you really thing there will be a 2040 or 2050?


Cool

Sure, I believe we've survived through much worse periods from plague to world wars, this is nothing, it's just a local problem, nothing more


The point isn't our SURVIVAL. The point is will we be able to survive in enough strength to make AI and improve it enough so that it will become a threat to people? As you say, people have survived lots of things. But they had to "fight" to do it. AI will never become a big enough threat so that people will have to fight it.

Cool
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November 01, 2016, 10:09:46 AM
#11


Sure why not, we survived WW1 and WW2. We are surviving the spraying program and global warming, as well as the Fukushima meltdowns.

By 2040 we'll have built up such a powerful immune system I doubt and radiation from the Clinton* wars will hurt us. 2050 will be the second boomer generation getting born.





There, fixed it for you.

When you look at things like...

The elections
The wars in the Middle East
The gun control issues
The fight between Government and Americans (Bundys)
The crashing economy
The financial bubbles
And lots more

... do you really thing there will be a 2040 or 2050?


Cool

Sure, I believe we've survived through much worse periods from plague to world wars, this is nothing, it's just a local problem, nothing more
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November 01, 2016, 08:22:43 AM
#10
It will all depend how humans will coexist with the artificial intelligence. There have been predictions that robots will run the world as soon as 2025 and there is no doubt that they will be equally smart, or even smarter than humans. One example that I can think of is IBM's Watson competing on Jeopardy and defeating the smartest Jeopardy champions with ease. In chess, the computers are beating super grandmasters easily, and can memorize millions of moves and positions in seconds.

Co-exist? With all the crashes and wars that are coming, there won't be any AI by 2040.

Cool
Maybe the thing you saying is possible but there's a possibility that there is an AI by 2040. We can't say for sure what will happen at that time because there is still 24 year gap from 2040 to 2016. By that remaining years unimaginable things might happen or might be invented by that time. In my opinion though, AI will not make humans extinct because humans made AI, and humans can make a counter measure against them.
I dont think so. As scary as it may seem, i think humans still would be the dominant specie for a very long time. Although ai may push technology to new heights, i think humans would still be in control
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