Topic: Will Satoshi ever come forward? - page 2. (Read 530 times)
Some people even say that Bitcoin could go down at a incredibly high rate if Satoshi reveals his/her identity. But I don't see any logic about thinking in this way. But I'm sure that Bitcoin will be affected by it if such thing happens.
He was posting almost every day. Few posts daily and than disappeared. He didn't even say goodbye. He did not write that he was abandoning the project because BTC is ready enough for that. He just disappeared.
What exactly happened to Satoshi has not been clarified yet, although I believe that some of his close associates know much more than has ever been made public. It is possible that some additional information will be published over time, although it will be a distant history that will no longer be able to influence Bitcoin in any way.
If you read what actually happened behind the scenes in the early years, it can be clearly concluded that some individuals were not satisfied with the fact that Satoshi still makes all the important decisions. Apparently there was very strong pressure on Satoshi to actually leave, or at least leave most of the decisions to some other people - and from everything Satoshi did before his disappearance, it is clear that he did not leave until he made some important moves.
One of the best articles that describes in detail all the events and gives a very good insight into everything that happened between Satoshi and his close associates should be read by everyone. I will single out the following :
Quote from: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/technical/what-happened-when-bitcoin-creator-satoshi-nakamoto-disappeared
Still, it’s difficult to say if Satoshi’s decision to walk away was his alone. After all, over the year, there had been a dramatic change in tone toward his leadership.
As to whether he intended to leave, however, Satoshi was definite, his sign-off observable when he removed his name from Bitcoin’s copyright statements[X]. Thereafter, he would also update Bitcoin.org, adding the names and emails of other developers – including Andresen, Sirius, Laszlo and Nils Schneider (tcatm) – to its contact page and removing his own[X].
What little we know about the transition was represented by Andresen publicly when he claimed a week later to have received Satoshi’s “blessing” to start “more active project management.”[X]
In the interim, Andresen assumed the trappings of authority, putting out a “help wanted” post and making clear to new volunteers they would now need to move the project forward[X].
“Who is willing and able to help out? Don't ask permission, just jump in. Your reward will be recognition, admiration and respect. It is time to take Bitcoin from, essentially, a single programmer project to a robust open-source project with lots of contributors.”
As to whether he intended to leave, however, Satoshi was definite, his sign-off observable when he removed his name from Bitcoin’s copyright statements[X]. Thereafter, he would also update Bitcoin.org, adding the names and emails of other developers – including Andresen, Sirius, Laszlo and Nils Schneider (tcatm) – to its contact page and removing his own[X].
What little we know about the transition was represented by Andresen publicly when he claimed a week later to have received Satoshi’s “blessing” to start “more active project management.”[X]
In the interim, Andresen assumed the trappings of authority, putting out a “help wanted” post and making clear to new volunteers they would now need to move the project forward[X].
“Who is willing and able to help out? Don't ask permission, just jump in. Your reward will be recognition, admiration and respect. It is time to take Bitcoin from, essentially, a single programmer project to a robust open-source project with lots of contributors.”
I think so, because most of the things he or she put in place in the world is giving good results which many people will like to see he or she to appreciate for the good work. Since Satoshi impact is still keeping some countries to sustain in their economy they would like to celebrate he or she as a king or queen.
If Satoshi is still alive, but the thing is is he? more than 10 years and no even a single word. if Satoshi wanted to show himself i think he already did specially this year alone.and Surely he will come out to let people know about the progress if there are news but there is none.
I came out and was always deleted. I was so angry. I have modified my email address of P2P foundation.
What are you talking? this was not even related to the discussion.after a long time he was hiding, and hiding his identity, for about 12 years, I think he is difficult to appear in public, I think he will stick to his stance, and will hide his identity,, he only wants people to know about his work but not about him. ..
If he is really hiding then We must be happy, but what if the creator was already gone?
I came out and was always deleted. I was so angry. I have modified my email address of P2P foundation.
after a long time he was hiding, and hiding his identity, for about 12 years, I think he is difficult to appear in public, I think he will stick to his stance, and will hide his identity,, he only wants people to know about his work but not about him. ..
Satoshi coming out would be the government and institutions' dream come true. We are already used to Bitcoin volatility like it could dip 50% even just for correction. We probably won't mind if satoshi comes out and the market crash.
Him coming out is likely not going to happen. He seemed to have done everything to hide, it's illogical to come out after all these things he did. He can't be lured to go out all because they are creating a Satoshi monument in Budapest!
Satoshi could have returned many times. Would people even listen? He or She did the best anonymous development then disappeared. So well in fact Satoshi could be right in front of you but you wouldn't believe it. If however Satoshi did provide proof "keys " then Bitcoin might fall apart. Some of bitcoin value comes from the absence of Satoshi
Exactly, even prophets and gods coming down this world declaring their identity is going to be ignored and laugh at because everyone is realistic and will have a really hard time believing the unbelievable, that's just like satoshi, if s/he suddenly came out declaring his identity, s/he better have some sort of damning proof that s/he is who s/he claim s/he is, but let's be real for a second, there's a lot of opportunity for satoshi to come out but s/he didn't, pretty sure that satoshi is implying that s/he wants to remain anonymous.
Satoshi could have returned many times. Would people even listen? He or She did the best anonymous development then disappeared. So well in fact Satoshi could be right in front of you but you wouldn't believe it. If however Satoshi did provide proof "keys " then Bitcoin might fall apart. Some of bitcoin value comes from the absence of Satoshi
I think so, because most of the things he or she put in place in the world is giving good results which many people will like to see he or she to appreciate for the good work. Since Satoshi impact is still keeping some countries to sustain in their economy they would like to celebrate he or she as a king or queen.
I doubt this will ever happen, even without his presence there is already too much emotions and sentiment happening, people are going out of their mind with market down most times, too many people will want answers and who knows what else could happen, better to remain anonymous.
We don't even know whether Satoshi is alive or not. Let's say Satoshi is alive, then I think there is no meaning to show oneself from now on. We should have known who Satoshi is from the start. Now, we don't also know how a probable revelation could affect the market.
Satoshi Nakamoto is a person or a team, it has not proven yet. i don't see any possibility to satoshi coming forward in the future. safety is also involved if reveal identity in the public.
although many people have already claimed as satoshi but they have not been able to show proper evidence.
although many people have already claimed as satoshi but they have not been able to show proper evidence.
There really isn't any incentive for him/her/them to come back and reveal themselves. At this point, bitcoin has come to a point that it matured and doesn't really need the guidance, advice, or even mere presence of its creator. With that said, Satoshi coming back would have little to no difference to the current state of things in bitcoin, as it had already spread far and wide around the world that Satoshi's authority wouldn't really be obeyed anymore by a lot of people.
It's good that bitcoin remains a cryptocurrency with no known creator, as it instills that anonymity is extremely important on this particular currency that they created.
It's good that bitcoin remains a cryptocurrency with no known creator, as it instills that anonymity is extremely important on this particular currency that they created.
There is a large risk of kidnapping and harm that could happen to him if he were to come forward. This could be from
* people who want his bitcoin, and would try to take it through physical threat to him or anyone near him
* people who hate bitcoin, and want to punish him
Without physicality, there are also the possibilities of lawsuits from the scavengers of the world who would tie him up in courts forever.
I always considered Hal Finney as a possibility for Satoshi.
That said, the reason he disappeared and his last decade could be incredibly mundane, with the idea of him much larger than the reality.
* people who want his bitcoin, and would try to take it through physical threat to him or anyone near him
* people who hate bitcoin, and want to punish him
Without physicality, there are also the possibilities of lawsuits from the scavengers of the world who would tie him up in courts forever.
I always considered Hal Finney as a possibility for Satoshi.
That said, the reason he disappeared and his last decade could be incredibly mundane, with the idea of him much larger than the reality.
satoshi nakamoto is a very smart person he knows what he has to do this choice to be anonymous is chosen by satoshi maybe if satoshi is known by many people then everyone wants to target him for business partners or want to harm him then satoshi's choice is very right to hide his identity.
The biggest plus for him would be to do nothing and not reveal his identity.
I don't believe Satoshi is capable of "coming forward" any longer. It is my belief that he has been dead for a while now.
This is my consensus too but going along with this note, do you think any of this would have really mattered if Satoshi didn't disappear to begin with?
nah, people can easily throw new conspiracy theory regardless of satoshi identity. let's say he's a japanese person, some "experts" can easily connect him with one photo or another to establish the left-right wing theory. it doesn't really matter. let him rest, since his dissapearance was probably planned (he's working on another project according to his last message, so let's just believe that). 
Personally, I think the cons of him coming forward will always outweigh the pros but I'm curious what some of y'all think. What would your single biggest pro or con be for him coming/not coming forward be?
No, Satoshi is probably dead, but you can expect to see more and more Faketoshi characters popping up in future like Craig Steven Wright, Bilal Khalid (James Caan), Debo Jurgen Etienne Guido, Ronald Keala Kua Maria, Jörg Molt or Phil Wilson (Scronty).They all claimed they are the real Satoshi but nobody ever provided any real proof, except making some manipulations, lawsuits and fake ownership for Bitcoin whitepaper, so it is probably better that we never the know real identity of Satoshi.
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Surely media will be mind-blown once that 30-40 years you mentioned have happened.I personally doubt he will come forward. We already have fake-toshi/s here, and that does not even make him come forward.
He already made something decentralized and surely governments would have a lot of questions to him if he decides to do so, but again I doubt.
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