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October 29, 2023, 04:13:56 AM
I think, in ancient times no one saw gambling as a recreational activity. Everyone wanted to actually win something with gambling. It's now, when people are smarter, they can treat gambling as entertainment. It's a pity that there are still those who want to make money from it and even those who want to cheat casinos or other players to gain money. It's like their mind is still there, in ancient times.
You are right to say such a thing. People of that era considered gambling a way to make money instead of gambling as entertainment. Those in that era did not have many sources of work so they chose gambling to make money but as we know, many of them lost and even the casinos took the prices and goods. But nowadays, people can use gambling as entertainment, although there are still people who use gambling to make money.

There are many of them such people. Millions, I would say. And some of them succeed too, but it's a very risky business I would advise against. You better keep it light and fun, and try to make money anywhere else.

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~ And surely it was entertaining too. And some opportunists surely have always tried to beat the system, even when it's mathematically proven not to be possible. Modern religions have been against gambling and consider it as a "sin". I am not sure if it's because the paganic roots of it, or because it's just fun for the wrong reasons.

What is mathematically proven not to be possible? So, if someone wins millions playing lottery or slots, he's going against mathematics in your opinion, or do you think no one has ever won from gambling? What's mathematically proven is that the casino will always be in profit in the long run, but not playing against you personally, but against all players.
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October 22, 2023, 06:42:31 PM

It was more complex than that. It's one of the oldest known activities, and it has always had a recreational side, even though back in time recreational activities contained very much other elements as well. Fortune telling and asking an advice from gods could be considered as past time recreational activities. Even though gatherings and gambling had other functions as well.

I could speculate about the origins but people have gambled for money purely for winning, sure, but that's a newer thing as gambing has always contained way more elements then winning and losing.
It was used to raise money for example so people gathered to play for greater good. And surely it was entertaining too. And some opportunists surely have always tried to beat the system, even when it's mathematically proven not to be possible. Modern religions have been against gambling and consider it as a "sin". I am not sure if it's because the paganic roots of it, or because it's just fun for the wrong reasons.

It was base on the very individual gamblers to the game,because the person mindset plays the huge importance in the game.Many people try to scam the gambling sites at the beginning and they get into bad condition at the last.Because after the casino find of your cheating into their sites,surely they will ban the gambling account.But the fact is the money was in the gambling site will be taken by the gambling site on the way of disciplinary action for the cheating.So the gambler should take the responsibility to the game and don’t try to play the gambling by cheating.Because one day the gambler will be punished in the big way.
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October 22, 2023, 06:39:37 PM
There is nothing wrong with gambling. The fault is the gamblers who cannot control themselves and use gambling to make money. Even though gambling is a tool for carrying out recreational activities known since ancient times, they only see people who have won from gambling games without thinking about how much money people have spent to get their big win. And if they lose a lot, they will look for ways to cheat the casino but they probably won't find it because the casino is always wary of fraudulent actions that some of its members might commit.

I think, in ancient times no one saw gambling as a recreational activity. Everyone wanted to actually win something with gambling. It's now, when people are smarter, they can treat gambling as entertainment. It's a pity that there are still those who want to make money from it and even those who want to cheat casinos or other players to gain money. It's like their mind is still there, in ancient times.
It was more complex than that. It's one of the oldest known activities, and it has always had a recreational side, even though back in time recreational activities contained very much other elements as well. Fortune telling and asking an advice from gods could be considered as past time recreational activities. Even though gatherings and gambling had other functions as well.

I could speculate about the origins but people have gambled for money purely for winning, sure, but that's a newer thing as gambing has always contained way more elements then winning and losing.
It was used to raise money for example so people gathered to play for greater good. And surely it was entertaining too. And some opportunists surely have always tried to beat the system, even when it's mathematically proven not to be possible. Modern religions have been against gambling and consider it as a "sin". I am not sure if it's because the paganic roots of it, or because it's just fun for the wrong reasons.
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October 22, 2023, 06:05:09 PM

While it is true that cheating can be highly possible in gambling especially if you are in a constant loss, but that does not mean that we gamble to cheat so we can make big profits at the end of the day. If we see the casino is trying to rigged the games, then we should also do some tricks to keep us winning. However, reputable casinos will never chose to break their credibility that was built for long years, that’s why we should not worry thinking that they resort into cheating their players.


Honestly I don’t cheat the gambling sites,it was highly not possible one because of the good developer only hired for the gambling sites.So their coding will not easily cracked by the common gamblers.If you get the constant loss,you need to understand one factor,the gambling site doesn’t scam you for this.The luck only played huge role in all the time in the gambling.The experienced person know this fact and the fresher only start to blame the gambling sites after the loss is very common one.So after some experiences,the fresh gambler also understand is based on the luck the loss happened in the gambling sites.
I agree gambling sites don't cheat and mostly luck is involved they rely on players to cheat. Of course the gaming site won't think twice as soon as they realize that the player has won often due to cheating. Online casinos use advanced cheat systems that immediately flag down accounts with suspicious activity. These programs are also used to monitor problem gambling and take appropriate action some casinos may suspend rude players from accessing their services.

I agree with you, because I think that gambling and casino sites don't cheat either because players lose, they just run or play their games keeping the basic rules, and the most basic rule of all is that there will always be a house edge. which has always been the case and the casinos will always be governed under those circumstances so in this order because I believe that there will be nothing else other than that, when we see that things can change we hear ourselves governed as something that can be very natural, the casinos They will not allow any type of cheating. I have seen how in the forum there are many things where they say that there has been cheating or abuse of the system, it is what I have always talked about, but basically when we are in a casino and we can do something that the system is allowed, it will not consider that as cheating, but like bugs left by the programmers, so this is the fault of the programmers, not the players , if a player tries to do something wrong they Simply won't let them do it because it is not allowed.

Just remember the system that casinos have as a faucet freebie, it is something that everyone at some point has not taken advantage of , and casinos who have tried to set up a faucet like that fail, because if someone has accounts, multi-accounts and plays like that and allows the casino is going down a path that is not the right one, where money is lost, but whose fault is it? of the users? I don't think so, users look for a way to win, and obviously they start cheating, which is not correct, but if the casino had its naps well optimized, this wouldn't happen, because it simply detects it and can correct everything. , and not allow them to create multiple Accounts because they have an IP control and if they see duplicates, those that are public, then they have to send a warning before a possible ban, because that is the correct way to do it.
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October 22, 2023, 04:24:50 AM
Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?
Well I don't no what you meant by trick to win in casino or sports but however I don't think there is any possibility of tricking any sporting betting or casinos because they no that there is a chance that most people will try every means to trick there winnings so they make sure nothing of that nature could happen because one of the factors that determines sports companies and Casino is there security measures, they make sure they have a team that's highly professional to focus on maintaining there site from unauthorized users.

So there is no way anybody can try a trick to win from any casino and sports, but however if I may ask how possible can a trick work on casino or sports? Because looking at it on every angle is not possible.

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October 22, 2023, 02:45:53 AM
I think, in ancient times no one saw gambling as a recreational activity. Everyone wanted to actually win something with gambling. It's now, when people are smarter, they can treat gambling as entertainment. It's a pity that there are still those who want to make money from it and even those who want to cheat casinos or other players to gain money. It's like their mind is still there, in ancient times.
You are right to say such a thing. People of that era considered gambling a way to make money instead of gambling as entertainment. Those in that era did not have many sources of work so they chose gambling to make money but as we know, many of them lost and even the casinos took the prices and goods. But nowadays, people can use gambling as entertainment, although there are still people who use gambling to make money.

If you are cheating, it's either a casino, or your friends, or your wife will find out eventually. And even if they won't, this kind of behaviour will never bring you happiness.
Yes, cheating will be found in the end because we lied to them. And if you cheat against the casino, the casino will know about it. The casino has all the data of its members so the casino can easily find out who is cheating. Casinos can also suspend members suspected of cheating or who have already committed a scam.
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October 22, 2023, 02:23:37 AM
Nah, you'll just ruin yourself if you get caught. There are many other ways so that you don't lose too much in gambling, or you want to win. If you find an advantage and it is legal you use it. It's not a cheat because there are advantages and disadvantages in gambling.

Because I can't be quiet if I know that what I won was only obtained by cheating or lying to other people. I also believe in karma that's why.
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October 22, 2023, 01:37:14 AM
[...] Instead of cheating, I'd rather wish to be super lucky in gambling, even if it's one big time. That's what I'm wishing for.
How long can your patience endure, waiting for that extraordinarily fortunate moment? Gamblers play fairly, while casinos may resort to deceit. Yet, you persist in your naivety to play fairly. In my perspective, your honesty would be better utilized in more positive business endeavors. You deserve to develop companies and businesses with your integrity. There's no intention to seek revenge against the casino, but considering the many individuals bankrupted by casino games has compelled some to seek retribution.

If I were to engage in deception, I'd do so purely for amusement. If I desired to make a purchase, I could visit the casino for a game and acquire funds. Striving to win discreetly, just enough to secure some funds, is safer and less likely to raise suspicion. Forgive me if this morality seems tarnished. It's merely my belief that cheating in gambling appears to be rather entertaining.
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October 22, 2023, 01:27:57 AM
There have been reports of a number of casinos cheating. Even though there was no way to verify these reports, there is still the possibility of them  being true in some cases.

You are right that casinos can easily cheat by giving them more advantage by implement 5% or 10% house edge and claim that their house edge is standard that is 1% house edge. In most cases, we cannot verify the house edge of the casino until one play at the casino and feel that they lose more than they win.

From the side of the players, I still do not understand how it will be possible to cheat the casinos, unless through hacking which is rare.

From players point of view, some may apply certain strategies like Martingale that is to double your bet on a loss and reduce your bet back to original once you win. These type of strategies may not fall into cheating category but casino may treat them as cheating.

By the way, i don't find any strategies in gambling, where a gambler can only win and never lose.
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October 22, 2023, 01:11:35 AM
There's nothing wrong with gambling itself. There are a lot of leisure activities that can be worse for you than gambling in the end. But if you are trying to cheat in gambling, either in land-based casinos or online ones, you have a good chance of turning your entertainment into disaster.
There is nothing wrong with gambling. The fault is the gamblers who cannot control themselves and use gambling to make money. Even though gambling is a tool for carrying out recreational activities known since ancient times, they only see people who have won from gambling games without thinking about how much money people have spent to get their big win. And if they lose a lot, they will look for ways to cheat the casino but they probably won't find it because the casino is always wary of fraudulent actions that some of its members might commit.

I think, in ancient times no one saw gambling as a recreational activity. Everyone wanted to actually win something with gambling. It's now, when people are smarter, they can treat gambling as entertainment. It's a pity that there are still those who want to make money from it and even those who want to cheat casinos or other players to gain money. It's like their mind is still there, in ancient times.

What I meant to say was that there's no excuse for cheating. The way of thinking like "they deceive us so we have the right to deceive them" is rubbish.
Yes, there is no reason to cheat. They must realize that so they don't try to cheat at the casino. That would get them in trouble especially if the casino found out. The casino would know for sure. Their account will be immediately blocked without notification, especially if the casino has discovered their cheat.

If you are cheating, it's either a casino, or your friends, or your wife will find out eventually. And even if they won't, this kind of behaviour will never bring you happiness.
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October 17, 2023, 03:56:59 AM

While it is true that cheating can be highly possible in gambling especially if you are in a constant loss, but that does not mean that we gamble to cheat so we can make big profits at the end of the day. If we see the casino is trying to rigged the games, then we should also do some tricks to keep us winning. However, reputable casinos will never chose to break their credibility that was built for long years, that’s why we should not worry thinking that they resort into cheating their players.


Honestly I don’t cheat the gambling sites,it was highly not possible one because of the good developer only hired for the gambling sites.So their coding will not easily cracked by the common gamblers.If you get the constant loss,you need to understand one factor,the gambling site doesn’t scam you for this.The luck only played huge role in all the time in the gambling.The experienced person know this fact and the fresher only start to blame the gambling sites after the loss is very common one.So after some experiences,the fresh gambler also understand is based on the luck the loss happened in the gambling sites.
I agree gambling sites don't cheat and mostly luck is involved they rely on players to cheat. Of course the gaming site won't think twice as soon as they realize that the player has won often due to cheating. Online casinos use advanced cheat systems that immediately flag down accounts with suspicious activity. These programs are also used to monitor problem gambling and take appropriate action some casinos may suspend rude players from accessing their services.
There have been reports of a number of casinos cheating. Even though there was no way to verify these reports, there is still the possibility of them  being true in some cases.
From the side of the players, I still do not understand how it will be possible to cheat the casinos, unless through hacking which is rare.
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October 16, 2023, 10:02:58 AM

While it is true that cheating can be highly possible in gambling especially if you are in a constant loss, but that does not mean that we gamble to cheat so we can make big profits at the end of the day. If we see the casino is trying to rigged the games, then we should also do some tricks to keep us winning. However, reputable casinos will never chose to break their credibility that was built for long years, that’s why we should not worry thinking that they resort into cheating their players.


Honestly I don’t cheat the gambling sites,it was highly not possible one because of the good developer only hired for the gambling sites.So their coding will not easily cracked by the common gamblers.If you get the constant loss,you need to understand one factor,the gambling site doesn’t scam you for this.The luck only played huge role in all the time in the gambling.The experienced person know this fact and the fresher only start to blame the gambling sites after the loss is very common one.So after some experiences,the fresh gambler also understand is based on the luck the loss happened in the gambling sites.
I agree gambling sites don't cheat and mostly luck is involved they rely on players to cheat. Of course the gaming site won't think twice as soon as they realize that the player has won often due to cheating. Online casinos use advanced cheat systems that immediately flag down accounts with suspicious activity. These programs are also used to monitor problem gambling and take appropriate action some casinos may suspend rude players from accessing their services.
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October 15, 2023, 11:06:22 PM
There's nothing wrong with gambling itself. There are a lot of leisure activities that can be worse for you than gambling in the end. But if you are trying to cheat in gambling, either in land-based casinos or online ones, you have a good chance of turning your entertainment into disaster.
There is nothing wrong with gambling. The fault is the gamblers who cannot control themselves and use gambling to make money. Even though gambling is a tool for carrying out recreational activities known since ancient times, they only see people who have won from gambling games without thinking about how much money people have spent to get their big win. And if they lose a lot, they will look for ways to cheat the casino but they probably won't find it because the casino is always wary of fraudulent actions that some of its members might commit.

What I meant to say was that there's no excuse for cheating. The way of thinking like "they deceive us so we have the right to deceive them" is rubbish.
Yes, there is no reason to cheat. They must realize that so they don't try to cheat at the casino. That would get them in trouble especially if the casino found out. The casino would know for sure. Their account will be immediately blocked without notification, especially if the casino has discovered their cheat.
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October 15, 2023, 05:01:02 PM
As a morally upright person that does not like to cheat people, but gambles and has lost a lot of money to gambling in a casino where you have sometimes been cheated even without your knowledge or betting on sports, will you take an opportunity you get and go against your moral standards to cheat a casino or sportsbetting place, just so you can win big at least even once.

Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?
I Know that Gambling may trigger my inner thoughts about doing bad things but I am not the one who will fall from it as I know where and when to stop gambling , there comes a time when I have a chance to win big in our card game with friends as I mistakenly leave an ACE card in my side but instead of using it? I declared the game mishandled and start another one.
in this all my co players thank me and I learn the best lesson and that is to never
take advantage of everything.
and besides it is easy to win cheating but will this star forever in your conscience ?

I think that when you cheat, it is easier to cheat in casinos that are physical, not online, because that is where the money is transferred in another way, through chips or something so that it can be put into play, While in an online casino you have your money there and nothing to tip or anything, even though stake.com has the function of tipping the user you Want , that is a little more real what they do, clearly it is stake .com, is one of the best casinos in the world, so cheating in a physical location is more difficult, but it is something that sounds quite stupid, because in all the casinos they have security cameras that are always watching each player. The way they do things and they are always notifying everyone about the situation of each one of them, and it is normal , it is money that is being dealt with, money is something because things have to be treated with that delicacy, so The people who always try to cheat, they don't do well, they are accused, they are caught with the infraction there, many people think that this is a good thing to do because it is a casino and the casinos have too much money, but what they don't know is that To be in a position like this is not from one day to the next, it is because they had to have gone Through many processes, losses of a lot of effort.

People are very open to what they can do in a casino, I have seen that there are people who in online casinos try to cheat, it is incredible , but as I said, a casino that allows you to do a certain number of things, hey that they abuse their systems, that is their fault because they did not look for a programmer to optimize all those possible failures, then the casino is partly to blame, of course I am not saying that the cheater made up for it and is Innocent, because it is not Thus, a cheater must always receive his punishment, because things that are taken in a bad way will never be good.
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October 15, 2023, 04:53:45 AM
That's a good lesson, you definitely should not go to the casino to get money. It's good when readers and moviegoer draw a lesson like this. But sometimes books and movies teach that the casinos are cheaters and there's nothing wrong then to cheat on them, and that's a bad lesson, I would say.
It would be better if readers and viewers could learn the lesson. However, unfortunately, many people still gamble, even though they have seen films or read books about gambling, because they think it's only in books and videos and that's not how it happens in real life.

There's nothing wrong with gambling itself. There are a lot of leisure activities that can be worse for you than gambling in the end. But if you are trying to cheat in gambling, either in land-based casinos or online ones, you have a good chance of turning your entertainment into disaster.

But they are wrong. What happens in real life may be worse than what they read and watch. So it will depend on how a person can filter what he sees and watches so that he can learn the lesson and nothing happens to him.

What I meant to say was that there's no excuse for cheating. The way of thinking like "they deceive us so we have the right to deceive them" is rubbish.
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October 13, 2023, 06:25:42 PM

While it is true that cheating can be highly possible in gambling especially if you are in a constant loss, but that does not mean that we gamble to cheat so we can make big profits at the end of the day. If we see the casino is trying to rigged the games, then we should also do some tricks to keep us winning. However, reputable casinos will never chose to break their credibility that was built for long years, that’s why we should not worry thinking that they resort into cheating their players.


Honestly I don’t cheat the gambling sites,it was highly not possible one because of the good developer only hired for the gambling sites.So their coding will not easily cracked by the common gamblers.If you get the constant loss,you need to understand one factor,the gambling site doesn’t scam you for this.The luck only played huge role in all the time in the gambling.The experienced person know this fact and the fresher only start to blame the gambling sites after the loss is very common one.So after some experiences,the fresh gambler also understand is based on the luck the loss happened in the gambling sites.
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October 13, 2023, 06:20:04 PM
As far as I'm concerned, gambling isn't a platform to find honest people and shouldn't be an avenue to test the people's sincerity. The purpose of gambling is to get massive wins at the end of the day and that's why almost every gambler will do anything humanly possible to make sure he wins his gambles including cheating. No one would want to stake their hard earned money and never want to get a big reward at the end so that's why gamblers will always continue to manipulate their ways to victory.
We cheats either among ourselves or find means to hacked the system and goes against terms and conditions. We would do anything to gain profits from the system, because everything related to gambling is risks, and these gamblers can afford to take it inother to grab meaningful resources. You're right, gamblers doesn't have these honesty attributes, rather they seek for the benefits of themselves alone, having no concerns of the potential consequences on their colleagues. All gamblers faced the possible outcomes of their actions, be it positive or negative, all that matters is accumulating profits at the end of the day.
While it is true that cheating can be highly possible in gambling especially if you are in a constant loss, but that does not mean that we gamble to cheat so we can make big profits at the end of the day. If we see the casino is trying to rigged the games, then we should also do some tricks to keep us winning. However, reputable casinos will never chose to break their credibility that was built for long years, that’s why we should not worry thinking that they resort into cheating their players.
The question is,

How you would really be able to cheat? Is it possible that you could really be able to make some exploit on the site you are playing on?
Would you make multiple accounts on cheating up a particular promotion or bonus?  I dont think that it would really be that so easy nowadays if you do have those kind of plans.
Gambling site nowadays wont really be have much with those kind of holes when it comes on being that to be possibly be abused. Security measures and whatever terms they do have
would really be simply implied or applied on which there's no way that a certain player would really be able to cheat technically or would really be abusing on whatever
bonuses and promotions that people would really be able deal with but cant possibly cheat because of those terms been put up.
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October 13, 2023, 05:59:42 PM
As far as I'm concerned, gambling isn't a platform to find honest people and shouldn't be an avenue to test the people's sincerity. The purpose of gambling is to get massive wins at the end of the day and that's why almost every gambler will do anything humanly possible to make sure he wins his gambles including cheating. No one would want to stake their hard earned money and never want to get a big reward at the end so that's why gamblers will always continue to manipulate their ways to victory.
We cheats either among ourselves or find means to hacked the system and goes against terms and conditions. We would do anything to gain profits from the system, because everything related to gambling is risks, and these gamblers can afford to take it inother to grab meaningful resources. You're right, gamblers doesn't have these honesty attributes, rather they seek for the benefits of themselves alone, having no concerns of the potential consequences on their colleagues. All gamblers faced the possible outcomes of their actions, be it positive or negative, all that matters is accumulating profits at the end of the day.
While it is true that cheating can be highly possible in gambling especially if you are in a constant loss, but that does not mean that we gamble to cheat so we can make big profits at the end of the day. If we see the casino is trying to rigged the games, then we should also do some tricks to keep us winning. However, reputable casinos will never chose to break their credibility that was built for long years, that’s why we should not worry thinking that they resort into cheating their players.
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October 13, 2023, 05:40:15 PM
As a morally upright person that does not like to cheat people, but gambles and has lost a lot of money to gambling in a casino where you have sometimes been cheated even without your knowledge or betting on sports, will you take an opportunity you get and go against your moral standards to cheat a casino or sportsbetting place, just so you can win big at least even once.

Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?

I do every day, infact, the Gambling Prediction sites we go in to get football tips and games is what please? Shouldn't that be considered cheating already?

There are also lots of people that would do that. If an Artificial intelligence was introduced who can predict games accurately, I do think that people will cheat anyway they like in order to see them winning.
Things like this happens in reality as people will want to do whatever they think they can to win. They think they have a better choice that the people they hurt.
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October 11, 2023, 07:02:45 AM
As a morally upright person that does not like to cheat people, but gambles and has lost a lot of money to gambling in a casino where you have sometimes been cheated even without your knowledge or betting on sports, will you take an opportunity you get and go against your moral standards to cheat a casino or sportsbetting place, just so you can win big at least even once.

Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?
I Know that Gambling may trigger my inner thoughts about doing bad things but I am not the one who will fall from it as I know where and when to stop gambling , there comes a time when I have a chance to win big in our card game with friends as I mistakenly leave an ACE card in my side but instead of using it? I declared the game mishandled and start another one.
in this all my co players thank me and I learn the best lesson and that is to never
take advantage of everything.
and besides it is easy to win cheating but will this star forever in your conscience ?
Rather than cheating having bad consequences for us in the future, we shouldn't cheat. We will also not be accused of cheating by the casino and can gamble as usual without any problems. Indeed, if we get a tempting offer, there is a desire within ourselves to want to try it.

But if the impact is worse for us, such as getting banned from the casino because we cheated, we shouldn't try. After all, cheating doesn't work very often. But there may be people who will use it for their benefit, especially for those who have often experienced losses at the casino.

They will probably quickly jump at the opportunity to reap the benefits. And if they can get it, they may repeat it as often as possible.
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