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Quote from: hahay on August 09, 2023, 12:47:38 PM

I never thought so, because it seems like it would be very difficult to cheat on a gambling platform. Ok well, maybe let's say you managed to cheat but I'm sure, it would be bad for your account too, right. Either that, for example, such as your account being frozen and or banned so that you cannot make withdrawals and so on. So yes, I personally never think about cheating because of course, there will be impacts that we will regret later. So yes, of course it would be better to play naturally, and not to cheat if it still involves with personal money.

It is seems easy to cheat in a relationship than to the gambling platforms Cheesy

but I am only kidding. Of course, this is hard as well, at least on my case. Gambling is a business so they must ensure that there are less to no loopholes that can sap their resources because it's going to affect them badly.

Cheaters don't care about their accounts because they can easily create one again or they will now jump on the other casinos. It's only sad that there are still a few cheaters out there who are successful with their attempts. I think this is because the casino's security is not good enough. For us who still have a soul, we never think of it even if we only have less money on hand.

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Quote from: LDL on August 09, 2023, 07:52:18 AM

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Actually you are absolutely right because there is no dearth of cheaters but these cheaters can never be called ideal gamblers. An ideal gambler would never participate in cheating even if given the opportunity. Gambling is an ancient form of entertainment although earlier people naturally participated in gambling but did not participate in any fraudulent activities.

Yes. According to stats around 1.6 billion people worldwide gamble, and 4.2 billion gambling at least once a year. Imaging all of them were cheaters: the world would come to an end fast.

Quote from: LDL on August 09, 2023, 07:52:18 AM

But nowadays many gamblers participate in fraudulent activities in the online system. Especially when the low quality minded gambler gets a special bug opportunity and participates in cheating.

As I said earlier, today it's hard to find a bug that could be exploited in order to steal money from a gambling site. Those who can find such a bug are not gamblers, they are dishonest hackers who don't share this information with regular gamblers. If you know such cases, share them.

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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on August 10, 2023, 02:03:04 PM

Cheating is a crime and that's it. If we wanted to have no problem with our account, we must play honestly and avoid exploiting glitches and bugs that also includes cheating using third party application that can modify the result of our bets. I also agree that cheating will only harm ourselves, it lessen our credibility and when got caught, it can be a reason to ban our accounts and all our effort in getting VIP ranking will all go to waste and at the same time, any amount on our account will be confiscated. So I would avoid cheating even if the situation present itself. It is better to have a clear conscience than having money that is accumulated in the wrong way.

Many gamblers don't read the terms and conditions of the casino that they're using to gamble on and casino are always wise to include in their terms and conditions that if they catch you doing some illegal things that they can close your account with immediate effects but we don't know.

Cheating on a casino can be classified as an illegal act and when you get caught, your account can be terminated and the casino will be in their rights for doing so which make you lose all the funds you have on the casino platforms, they can take it a set further to report you.

Cheating isn't a good thing to do and there are many negative after effects that comes from cheating therefore it's not worth it. You can lose you accounts, get banned from the casino and also lose your reputation if they decide to further the matter to the authorities.

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Quote from: CODE200 on August 16, 2023, 06:14:45 AM

Of course not, even though I am in great need of money and way too desperate to win, I will never attempt to do that. Thus, nowadays gambling systems are more strict so you are just putting yourself into risk because your account may be banned or restricted and you don't want that to happen right? Just play fair and have fun, because that's what it should be about. But really, is cheating in gambling possible? I only knew about systems having problems and malfunctions but haven't heard of cheating in gambling.

Everyone has there ways of doing things, nowadays the rate of people who can cheat in gambling centers are increasing, these happens in a gambling shops mostly, if the gambler doesn't cheat the cashier, the agent can cheat the gambler, before an agent from a gambling company will open a gambling shop he's not going there to joke with customer's because in gambling shops there are different sets of people, some Gamblers that doesn't bet for fun might end up losing there money over there and any gambler who doesn't have discipline can end up harassing him selfs, those sets of persons can cheat in gambling shops, if any gambler cheats the bet agent and the bet agent doesn't know the agent might still look for those who came to bet for fun and cheat them too...

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Of course not, even though I am in great need of money and way too desperate to win, I will never attempt to do that. Thus, nowadays gambling systems are more strict so you are just putting yourself into risk because your account may be banned or restricted and you don't want that to happen right? Just play fair and have fun, because that's what it should be about. But really, is cheating in gambling possible? I only knew about systems having problems and malfunctions but haven't heard of cheating in gambling.

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Quote from: piebeyb on August 16, 2023, 04:05:03 AM

Yes, of course it will be difficult for yourself if you cheat because there is no benefit in doing that because the casino system will detect the cheating that we do even though in the beginning they let us play and gamble, many cases are caught for cheating so that's why never try to cheat to the casino though we can do it.

Nowadays the casino system is so sophisticated that it is easy for them to catch anyone who cheats, because I often see people who make threads about frozen accounts on this forum and then the casino clarify that some of them are trying to cheat the casino, that is why don't you ever try to cheat, it's best to just play as much as you can and enjoy the game then winning and losing is the process we have to accept when gambling. be a responsible gambler.

Indeed.

You're just giving yourself a headache the moment you decide to cheat on a casino. There's nothing the system doesn't detect. If you value your account, your funds, and gambling as entertainment or as sideline, then don't do anything illegal that might flag your account doing fraud or what. It will just come and backfire to you if ever, so it's better to always play fair and not do anything stupid just because of thinking about easy and quick money. There's no such thing to begin with. Casinos will eventually find the bug you are taking advantage of and then get rid of you by suspending or permanently banning the account you use, your device, or your identity specifically.

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Quote from: tusandii on August 16, 2023, 03:51:00 AM

If cheat only gives ourselves difficulties and causes problems, then why do we still think we want to cheat, while gambler responsibly also gives pleasure and if we're lucky, it can give us victory, whether it's small or big, at least there's a return for what we lost before.

Yes, of course it will be difficult for yourself if you cheat because there is no benefit in doing that because the casino system will detect the cheating that we do even though in the beginning they let us play and gamble, many cases are caught for cheating so that's why never try to cheat to the casino though we can do it.

Nowadays the casino system is so sophisticated that it is easy for them to catch anyone who cheats, because I often see people who make threads about frozen accounts on this forum and then the casino clarify that some of them are trying to cheat the casino, that is why don't you ever try to cheat, it's best to just play as much as you can and enjoy the game then winning and losing is the process we have to accept when gambling. be a responsible gambler.

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Quote from: Russlenat on August 16, 2023, 01:19:11 AM

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Quote from: yazher on August 09, 2023, 09:23:14 AM

Most likely he will use it as long as it's hidden and no one knows about it but mostly as well he will be found out. But as soon as he found out, he will be in trouble unless he knows how to disappear before that even happen. Because of greed, most people don't always stop when they find a loophole in gambling, they mostly abused the bugs in order to gain more money at the end of the day greed will hunt them and they will gonna lose their money because of that, just like what we heard from the stories of others.

As long as he could continue to use it, he would still use it for his own benefit. And if it is no longer useful, he will likely sell it to someone else for more money. But the casino will check every system in the casino and immediately close the bug if there is one. The casino will also know if someone is trying to use it for its benefit and will either block the account or not process the withdrawal. But it's different if the casino holds a contest to find bugs, it will make people compete to find the bug and report it to the casino to get the prize.

They will but that doesn't usually happen in reality as often times, most gamblers would say that why would they help the casino find it when they have their own stuffs to do it and apart from that, they will not because the prize will not be as big if they will take advantage of the bug themselves. You know, those kind of mindset that do it now without trying to look for the consequences down the road because the important thing is to make money.

I quite agree with you input though, But then , i think there are no mention of amounts a casino is willing to pay the bug hunters, i mean that, casinos usually do not mention the amount of money they are willing to pay anyone who finds a bug and reports it, so, there is clearly no way a hunter should think that the price is too small, then proceed to taking advantage of the bug by exploiting it, so for me personally, anyone who finds a bug in a casino's system and did not report it, but rather went on to exploit it, with the excuse that the bounty for discovering the bug is always too small if they do not exploit it first, that simply means such a person has evil intentions in the first place. it is highly possible that as the exploit the bug, if they casino does not find out, they will keep doing it just to enrich their pocket, i personally will always advice against such.

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Quote from: Wakate on August 10, 2023, 05:04:16 PM

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Quote from: hahay on August 09, 2023, 12:47:38 PM

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The funny part is that we can't fool a casino since it has all our information including our money. If we want to cheat a casino which some gamblers are still doing till today them we will have to be ready to to face the consequences and most time it is not that easy especially for those of us that like leaving our money in the casino that we regularly use. Casino can easily go through there system and check if a gambler especially those ones that do have big winnings and see if they are cheating them or not. If the person is found guilty, his account can be frozen or ban without any refund. This is the consequences of cheating a casino.

That's what gamblers should always think about several times who are trying to cheat in order to make big profits, to win fraudulently will be easy to do but for withdrawal I believe it can't be as easy as what they imagine.
But every day it seems that there are fewer cases of fraud committed by gamblers, considering that now casinos have a team that works 1x24 hours and can detect fraud committed by their customers at any time.
Especially now that some casinos have bots or some kind of AI to be able to detect the activities of every customer who is on the casino site and of course suppress acts of fraud that used to often occur.

If cheat only gives ourselves difficulties and causes problems, then why do we still think we want to cheat, while gambler responsibly also gives pleasure and if we're lucky, it can give us victory, whether it's small or big, at least there's a return for what we lost before.

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Quote from: hahay on August 09, 2023, 12:47:38 PM

I never thought so, because it seems like it would be very difficult to cheat on a gambling platform. Ok well, maybe let's say you managed to cheat but I'm sure, it would be bad for your account too, right. Either that, for example, such as your account being frozen and or banned so that you cannot make withdrawals and so on. So yes, I personally never think about cheating because of course, there will be impacts that we will regret later. So yes, of course it would be better to play naturally, and not to cheat if it still involves with personal money.

I also think that it will be the same difficult to cheat at the casino as cheating the games that the casino has or the games provided by the provider, gamblers with coding skills will probably be able to do it, but as you said will he be successful in making withdrawals because the casino has fraud detection system, so in the end he would only be the one at a loss for not being able to withdraw the money. Players can commit fraud in terms of multiple accounts when there is a promotion that we often see when there are complaints from players and it turns out that they were detected with multiple accounts.
I would prefer to play normally because when gambling is always identified with bad things and plus players commit cheating then how bad the players are, and if you think of gambling as just an activity to get pleasure then cheating is not something that will occur.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on August 15, 2023, 11:12:50 PM

Quote from: yazher on August 09, 2023, 09:23:14 AM

Most likely he will use it as long as it's hidden and no one knows about it but mostly as well he will be found out. But as soon as he found out, he will be in trouble unless he knows how to disappear before that even happen. Because of greed, most people don't always stop when they find a loophole in gambling, they mostly abused the bugs in order to gain more money at the end of the day greed will hunt them and they will gonna lose their money because of that, just like what we heard from the stories of others.

As long as he could continue to use it, he would still use it for his own benefit. And if it is no longer useful, he will likely sell it to someone else for more money. But the casino will check every system in the casino and immediately close the bug if there is one. The casino will also know if someone is trying to use it for its benefit and will either block the account or not process the withdrawal. But it's different if the casino holds a contest to find bugs, it will make people compete to find the bug and report it to the casino to get the prize.

They will but that doesn't usually happen in reality as often times, most gamblers would say that why would they help the casino find it when they have their own stuffs to do it and apart from that, they will not because the prize will not be as big if they will take advantage of the bug themselves. You know, those kind of mindset that do it now without trying to look for the consequences down the road because the important thing is to make money.

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Quote from: molsewid on August 14, 2023, 12:36:56 PM

Quote from: hahay on August 09, 2023, 12:47:38 PM

I never thought so, because it seems like it would be very difficult to cheat on a gambling platform. Ok well, maybe let's say you managed to cheat but I'm sure, it would be bad for your account too, right. Either that, for example, such as your account being frozen and or banned so that you cannot make withdrawals and so on. So yes, I personally never think about cheating because of course, there will be impacts that we will regret later. So yes, of course it would be better to play naturally, and not to cheat if it still involves with personal money.

Yes, I will not take risk my account just to cheat. Because if only a person can read and understand the t&c he will understand that cheating will cause you banned and they might sue you. Also, it can be the reason why you will not play in that casino or in another casino once they found out that thing. They willl surely block your IP, MAC and your KYC if ever they found out.

It's the same as you, I don't want my account to be a fraud account in any form, at least my account is clean of bad things, I comply with the procedures listed on the gambling site from KYC and the things that are in the procedure on the gambling site, but there are a few things that stick in my mind about some gambling sites that do not uphold honesty as the founders of sites that deviate from honesty with what to do with their members, of course this is the opposite of what is implemented by gambling sites and many even commit fraud from the site it's gambling that makes its members get big losses, not even just once but it often happens on big sites, so this is not balanced with honest players like you and me and even there are many more people out there who play honestly, at least the sites Gambling can be transparent about the events that are held, so that players can enjoy gambling and will certainly avoid fraudulent behavior in gambling.

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Quote from: yazher on August 09, 2023, 09:23:14 AM

Most likely he will use it as long as it's hidden and no one knows about it but mostly as well he will be found out. But as soon as he found out, he will be in trouble unless he knows how to disappear before that even happen. Because of greed, most people don't always stop when they find a loophole in gambling, they mostly abused the bugs in order to gain more money at the end of the day greed will hunt them and they will gonna lose their money because of that, just like what we heard from the stories of others.

As long as he could continue to use it, he would still use it for his own benefit. And if it is no longer useful, he will likely sell it to someone else for more money. But the casino will check every system in the casino and immediately close the bug if there is one. The casino will also know if someone is trying to use it for its benefit and will either block the account or not process the withdrawal. But it's different if the casino holds a contest to find bugs, it will make people compete to find the bug and report it to the casino to get the prize.

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Quote from: hahay on August 09, 2023, 12:47:38 PM

I never thought so, because it seems like it would be very difficult to cheat on a gambling platform. Ok well, maybe let's say you managed to cheat but I'm sure, it would be bad for your account too, right. Either that, for example, such as your account being frozen and or banned so that you cannot make withdrawals and so on. So yes, I personally never think about cheating because of course, there will be impacts that we will regret later. So yes, of course it would be better to play naturally, and not to cheat if it still involves with personal money.

Yes, I will not take risk my account just to cheat. Because if only a person can read and understand the t&c he will understand that cheating will cause you banned and they might sue you. Also, it can be the reason why you will not play in that casino or in another casino once they found out that thing. They willl surely block your IP, MAC and your KYC if ever they found out.

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Quote from: Westinhome on August 14, 2023, 12:25:35 PM

Quote from: Wakate on August 10, 2023, 05:04:16 PM

The funny part is that we can't fool a casino since it has all our information including our money. If we want to cheat a casino which some gamblers are still doing till today them we will have to be ready to to face the consequences and most time it is not that easy especially for those of us that like leaving our money in the casino that we regularly use. Casino can easily go through there system and check if a gambler especially those ones that do have big winnings and see if they are cheating them or not. If the person is found guilty, his account can be frozen or ban without any refund. This is the consequences of cheating a casino.

The program of the gambling site is highly secured,So we can't fool the site at any point.Only if you are hacker,you may have a very little chance.Due to data manipulation techniques by the hacker,they will find the exact history.But it have very little chance of winning using that data.The common people will not have enough data to find the next one.The ordinary gamblers will only do the probability option as the next spin.But the spin of the gambling is highly not predicted one.Mostly it hard to cheat the casino,if you done so and find by the website owner.All your funds will be freeze and if you had withdraw already,gambling site will fire a legal case against you.

And if ever the system was breached by certain third-party injectors, the security will surely find it and start a ban on the account that is trying to do such a cheat. The casino also implements checks and balances and verification from the game provider if they found out some irregularities. Once tagged as a cheater, all the winnings and the bankroll deposited in that account will be confiscated and it is true, there is a possibility that the casino will file a legal case against the cheater if it created damages to the system and the casino.

To avoid such trouble we should always play clean.

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Quote from: Wakate on August 10, 2023, 05:04:16 PM

The funny part is that we can't fool a casino since it has all our information including our money. If we want to cheat a casino which some gamblers are still doing till today them we will have to be ready to to face the consequences and most time it is not that easy especially for those of us that like leaving our money in the casino that we regularly use. Casino can easily go through there system and check if a gambler especially those ones that do have big winnings and see if they are cheating them or not. If the person is found guilty, his account can be frozen or ban without any refund. This is the consequences of cheating a casino.

The program of the gambling site is highly secured,So we can't fool the site at any point.Only if you are hacker,you may have a very little chance.Due to data manipulation techniques by the hacker,they will find the exact history.But it have very little chance of winning using that data.The common people will not have enough data to find the next one.The ordinary gamblers will only do the probability option as the next spin.But the spin of the gambling is highly not predicted one.Mostly it hard to cheat the casino,if you done so and find by the website owner.All your funds will be freeze and if you had withdraw already,gambling site will fire a legal case against you.

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Quote from: tusandii on August 10, 2023, 12:38:18 PM

Quote from: hahay on August 09, 2023, 12:47:38 PM

I never thought so, because it seems like it would be very difficult to cheat on a gambling platform. Ok well, maybe let's say you managed to cheat but I'm sure, it would be bad for your account too, right. Either that, for example, such as your account being frozen and or banned so that you cannot make withdrawals and so on. So yes, I personally never think about cheating because of course, there will be impacts that we will regret later. So yes, of course it would be better to play naturally, and not to cheat if it still involves with personal money.

Now that's true, because every win will definitely be investigated in advance by the casino team, especially if it's a big win, the casino will definitely investigate and track the win so that the account will be frozen and all balances will be taken by the casino team.
Only those who are stupid think that they can cheat the casino easily and can withdraw their winnings from fraud easily.

Moreover, cheating will only bring complicated problems to be resolved.

The funny part is that we can't fool a casino since it has all our information including our money. If we want to cheat a casino which some gamblers are still doing till today them we will have to be ready to to face the consequences and most time it is not that easy especially for those of us that like leaving our money in the casino that we regularly use. Casino can easily go through there system and check if a gambler especially those ones that do have big winnings and see if they are cheating them or not. If the person is found guilty, his account can be frozen or ban without any refund. This is the consequences of cheating a casino.

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Quote from: tusandii on August 10, 2023, 12:38:18 PM

Quote from: hahay on August 09, 2023, 12:47:38 PM

I never thought so, because it seems like it would be very difficult to cheat on a gambling platform. Ok well, maybe let's say you managed to cheat but I'm sure, it would be bad for your account too, right. Either that, for example, such as your account being frozen and or banned so that you cannot make withdrawals and so on. So yes, I personally never think about cheating because of course, there will be impacts that we will regret later. So yes, of course it would be better to play naturally, and not to cheat if it still involves with personal money.

Now that's true, because every win will definitely be investigated in advance by the casino team, especially if it's a big win, the casino will definitely investigate and track the win so that the account will be frozen and all balances will be taken by the casino team.
Only those who are stupid think that they can cheat the casino easily and can withdraw their winnings from fraud easily.

Moreover, cheating will only bring complicated problems to be resolved.

Depending on how much they have to cheat from gambling.
If a gambler cheats a welcome bonus or anything with a small amount I think I can still get away with it because if you want to go on an adventure from one gambler to another there are bound to be some who cheat like that but it will take a long time for sure to be detected by the system or detected by investigation team.
But if it's a large amount, of course it will make the team suspicious, they have to detect whether the win or the money was obtained from a legitimate bet or not and if it is proven to be the result of defrauding the casino, it will definitely be banned immediately.
But I'm sure until now, even though there are big casinos, there are still some bad gamblers who have succeeded in deceiving casinos in various ways because I still often complain to this forum or tell stories on social media about cheating gambling but ending up being banned and even though it has many risks of cheating gambling but still some parts of people commit crimes like this.

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Quote from: kamvreto on August 10, 2023, 12:25:52 PM

Quote from: hahay on August 09, 2023, 12:47:38 PM

I never thought so, because it seems like it would be very difficult to cheat on a gambling platform. Ok well, maybe let's say you managed to cheat but I'm sure, it would be bad for your account too, right. Either that, for example, such as your account being frozen and or banned so that you cannot make withdrawals and so on. So yes, I personally never think about cheating because of course, there will be impacts that we will regret later. So yes, of course it would be better to play naturally, and not to cheat if it still involves with personal money.

yes cheating will only harm yourself. after all why do we have to cheat if we can play well and know what's being played. Like making a soccer bet, we will see which team is the most superior. Or when playing slots, we just need luck. Play the game reasonably and not too high to hope for a jackpot. Those who cheat will get punishment which will certainly be very detrimental.

Cheating is a crime and that's it. If we wanted to have no problem with our account, we must play honestly and avoid exploiting glitches and bugs that also includes cheating using third party application that can modify the result of our bets. I also agree that cheating will only harm ourselves, it lessen our credibility and when got caught, it can be a reason to ban our accounts and all our effort in getting VIP ranking will all go to waste and at the same time, any amount on our account will be confiscated. So I would avoid cheating even if the situation present itself. It is better to have a clear conscience than having money that is accumulated in the wrong way.

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Quote from: hahay on August 09, 2023, 12:47:38 PM

I never thought so, because it seems like it would be very difficult to cheat on a gambling platform. Ok well, maybe let's say you managed to cheat but I'm sure, it would be bad for your account too, right. Either that, for example, such as your account being frozen and or banned so that you cannot make withdrawals and so on. So yes, I personally never think about cheating because of course, there will be impacts that we will regret later. So yes, of course it would be better to play naturally, and not to cheat if it still involves with personal money.

Now that's true, because every win will definitely be investigated in advance by the casino team, especially if it's a big win, the casino will definitely investigate and track the win so that the account will be frozen and all balances will be taken by the casino team.
Only those who are stupid think that they can cheat the casino easily and can withdraw their winnings from fraud easily.

Moreover, cheating will only bring complicated problems to be resolved.

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