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Quote from: hahay on August 09, 2023, 12:47:38 PM

I never thought so, because it seems like it would be very difficult to cheat on a gambling platform. Ok well, maybe let's say you managed to cheat but I'm sure, it would be bad for your account too, right. Either that, for example, such as your account being frozen and or banned so that you cannot make withdrawals and so on. So yes, I personally never think about cheating because of course, there will be impacts that we will regret later. So yes, of course it would be better to play naturally, and not to cheat if it still involves with personal money.

yes cheating will only harm yourself. after all why do we have to cheat if we can play well and know what's being played. Like making a soccer bet, we will see which team is the most superior. Or when playing slots, we just need luck. Play the game reasonably and not too high to hope for a jackpot. Those who cheat will get punishment which will certainly be very detrimental.

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I never thought so, because it seems like it would be very difficult to cheat on a gambling platform. Ok well, maybe let's say you managed to cheat but I'm sure, it would be bad for your account too, right. Either that, for example, such as your account being frozen and or banned so that you cannot make withdrawals and so on. So yes, I personally never think about cheating because of course, there will be impacts that we will regret later. So yes, of course it would be better to play naturally, and not to cheat if it still involves with personal money.

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Quote from: yazher on August 09, 2023, 09:23:14 AM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on July 26, 2023, 08:22:15 AM

If someone finds that bug and uses it to their advantage, the casino will find out about it sooner or later and punish that person for rigging the casino. But if that person reports it to the casino so the casino can fix the bug, the casino will not penalize you and may even reward you for helping the casino find the bug. Now, what is a person's purpose or motive after he knows there is a bug in the casino? Will he report it to the casino or use it himself?

Most likely he will use it as long as it's hidden and no one knows about it but mostly as well he will be found out. But as soon as he found out, he will be in trouble unless he knows how to disappear before that even happen. Because of greed, most people don't always stop when they find a loophole in gambling, they mostly abused the bugs in order to gain more money at the end of the day greed will hunt them and they will gonna lose their money because of that, just like what we heard from the stories of others.

Until a gambler can control his greed, he will only lose. A gambler must remember that if he does any kind of cheating then he must be found guilty at some point. He may be temporarily benefited by the cheat but in the future he will definitely be responsible for his misdeeds. Moreover, I am not aware of any instance where someone has cheated and earned money in gambling. Every gambling site must conduct gambling with the most skilled manpower. Any type of wrongdoing can be found out immediately and if found guilty of such crime he definitely be under the law enforcement.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on August 03, 2023, 07:26:13 AM

And I also don't think that professional gamblers will cheat in their gambling, because maybe as you said they are responsible gamblers. But for the bug problem it seems like I think they have the possibility to take advantage of the situation, if indeed it could result in a real win why not. Everyone wants money and their goal is to gamble for money. And including those who are professionals may be able to take advantage of this opportunity. Lastly, in my experience now it is rare to have a system bug in the casino because they are very strict in their guarding, the casino involves a lot of money in it so of course they will tighten the system even more.
I agree that cheating rarely happens there, as I have said above that now there are rarely cases of cheating in casinos because they have a stricter and more accurate detection system.

yep, indeed everyone needs money but here we are talking about the professionalism of gamblers and what I know that professional gamblers do need money but that does not mean he will take advantage of bugs if that happens and they prefer to tell about the problem to get an award of some money rather than abuse it but have the risk of account being banned. a truly professional gambler, of course, has a commitment not to violate casino rules.

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Quote from: len01 on August 03, 2023, 05:32:54 AM

I think its very rare now to cheat in online gambling because every casino has a fraud detection system but for physical casinos it may still happen that a gambler cheats in gambling but its very rare.

Yeah right not even many cases get away from cheating the casino because some of them also created a thread on this forum complaining about the problem of not being able to withdraw money and the account was frozen after that it disappeared when the casino clarified that someone was trying to cheat the bonus and cheat the casino that's why I believe that even small casinos can have a good system for detecting fraud what about big casino sites.

I think it would be useless and a waste of time to cheat, even though there are loopholes we find to exploit it's best never to try to trick the casino because they will check your winnings as well as see how you play, that's why the casino system is so robust and secure.

answers to @piebeyb and @Jody.Drummer casinos now have a strict system in place to detect any kind of fraud even small casinos also have such a system but unfortunately this bug often occurs in newer casinos. Im sure some of you know about this.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on July 26, 2023, 08:22:15 AM

If someone finds that bug and uses it to their advantage, the casino will find out about it sooner or later and punish that person for rigging the casino. But if that person reports it to the casino so the casino can fix the bug, the casino will not penalize you and may even reward you for helping the casino find the bug. Now, what is a person's purpose or motive after he knows there is a bug in the casino? Will he report it to the casino or use it himself?

Most likely he will use it as long as it's hidden and no one knows about it but mostly as well he will be found out. But as soon as he found out, he will be in trouble unless he knows how to disappear before that even happen. Because of greed, most people don't always stop when they find a loophole in gambling, they mostly abused the bugs in order to gain more money at the end of the day greed will hunt them and they will gonna lose their money because of that, just like what we heard from the stories of others.

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Quote from: LDL on August 03, 2023, 02:00:56 AM

Professional gamblers and honest minded never cheat in gambling but poor minded definitely cheat in gambling. Of course it depends on the nature of the gambler, I never cheat on gambling or encourage anyone to cheat.
But if someone has participated in fraudulent activities in gambling and casino then surely the authority will take sufficient action on his account and his account will be penalized.
But if there is a systematic bug then many low minded gamblers cheat but their number is very less.

I have never thought of cheating in gambling.
For online gambling itself, even though I often lose, this doesn't make me behave badly because I still enjoy and like online gambling, if I cheat, I'm afraid my account will be blocked and I can't carry out online gambling activities.

especially if I gamble in a land casino or with friends, I really avoid cheating for the same reason because I enjoy and like gambling, I also can't give up gambling.
Besides that, if I cheat when playing at a land casino or with friends and cheat, other people will be reluctant to play with me, in which case I will lose my opponent.

except when I really decide to end my gambling activity, there is a possibility that I will cheat because instead of ending my gambling activity with a big loss it is better for me to cheat to get a win before I end it all,

Quote from: len01 on August 03, 2023, 05:32:54 AM

I think its very rare now to cheat in online gambling because every casino has a fraud detection system but for physical casinos it may still happen that a gambler cheats in gambling but its very rare.

for physical casinos, it is true that this rarely happens because those involved are mostly professional gamblers, which are very difficult to fool. except indeed those who are really good at gambling and are very neat in committing fraud so that they cannot be detected when committing fraud.

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on June 22, 2023, 10:12:12 AM

As a morally upright person that does not like to cheat people, but gambles and has lost a lot of money to gambling in a casino where you have sometimes been cheated even without your knowledge or betting on sports, will you take an opportunity you get and go against your moral standards to cheat a casino or sportsbetting place, just so you can win big at least even once.

If I possessed the ability to cheat, I might be tempted to give it a try, but only in situations involving strangers or within a casino. When it comes to my friends, I wouldn't consider cheating, not even once. Regarding moral standards, determining what is right or wrong in the context of gambling is challenging, as casinos themselves employ subtle methods that could be viewed as a form of cheating.

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Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?

From what I understand, casino game machines are designed with a specific win-lose ratio, and occasional errors may occur. Some fortunate individuals can exploit these errors, but they are usually rectified promptly. Consequently, the chances of receiving information from the casino about these errors are very low."

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Quote from: len01 on August 03, 2023, 05:32:54 AM

I think its very rare now to cheat in online gambling because every casino has a fraud detection system but for physical casinos it may still happen that a gambler cheats in gambling but its very rare.

Yeah right not even many cases get away from cheating the casino because some of them also created a thread on this forum complaining about the problem of not being able to withdraw money and the account was frozen after that it disappeared when the casino clarified that someone was trying to cheat the bonus and cheat the casino that's why I believe that even small casinos can have a good system for detecting fraud what about big casino sites.

I think it would be useless and a waste of time to cheat, even though there are loopholes we find to exploit it's best never to try to trick the casino because they will check your winnings as well as see how you play, that's why the casino system is so robust and secure.

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Quote from: Betwrong on August 09, 2023, 05:43:02 AM

Quote from: LDL on August 03, 2023, 02:00:56 AM

Professional gamblers and honest minded never cheat in gambling but poor minded definitely cheat in gambling. Of course it depends on the nature of the gambler, I never cheat on gambling or encourage anyone to cheat.
But if someone has participated in fraudulent activities in gambling and casino then surely the authority will take sufficient action on his account and his account will be penalized.
But if there is a systematic bug then many low minded gamblers cheat but their number is very less.

I think there are many - I wouldn't call them "gamblers" - dishonest people who would try to exploit a bug to their advantage, but the probability of them finding such a bug is very low.

In the early times of online gambling it was more often when a scammer finds a vulnerability and exploits it, but today ... Has anyone heard of something like the Hufflepuff's case happening recently?

Actually you are absolutely right because there is no dearth of cheaters but these cheaters can never be called ideal gamblers. An ideal gambler would never participate in cheating even if given the opportunity. Gambling is an ancient form of entertainment although earlier people naturally participated in gambling but did not participate in any fraudulent activities. But nowadays many gamblers participate in fraudulent activities in the online system. Especially when the low quality minded gambler gets a special bug opportunity and participates in cheating.

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Quote from: LDL on August 03, 2023, 02:00:56 AM

Professional gamblers and honest minded never cheat in gambling but poor minded definitely cheat in gambling. Of course it depends on the nature of the gambler, I never cheat on gambling or encourage anyone to cheat.
But if someone has participated in fraudulent activities in gambling and casino then surely the authority will take sufficient action on his account and his account will be penalized.
But if there is a systematic bug then many low minded gamblers cheat but their number is very less.

I think there are many - I wouldn't call them "gamblers" - dishonest people who would try to exploit a bug to their advantage, but the probability of them finding such a bug is very low.

In the early times of online gambling it was more often when a scammer finds a vulnerability and exploits it, but today ... Has anyone heard of something like the Hufflepuff's case happening recently?

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Quote from: Silberman on July 28, 2023, 11:33:50 PM

That will depend entirely on the morality or the ethics of that person, I am quite sure the majority of the gamblers out there will never think about cheating the casino even if the financial gain could be high, however there is also a small number of gamblers out there which are looking for bugs or even trying to find ways to provoke them, and it is clear that for gamblers like that if they happen to find a bug they will take advantage of it immediately and hope for the best at the moment they ask for a withdrawal.

You can probably assume that these are two completely different categories of gamblers. The first visits the casino for entertainment, and the second only for the sake of earning money (even if it is illegal). The second category, in fact, is not even gamblers - after all, if they try to deceive the casino in a criminal way, then in other areas they are ready for crime.

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Quote from: slapper on July 29, 2023, 04:32:48 PM

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Quote from: Eureka_07 on July 22, 2023, 09:58:57 AM

It depends on the bug. If you are not aware of it, it should be forgiven. But if it was a proven exploitation, then your account would be justified in being punished. Generally, if you know of some crucial bug, do not try to make use of it; eventually, you'll be punished for taking advantage of it. Be fair.

Now the question is how do they know the difference or be able to identify you being aware of the bug or not, how will a casino know your true plight and intentions not to harm or attack them, i think the best solution here is to completely avoid bug, they have a system that controls such and if you're suspected for one they or be friendly with you by any chance, once a bug is detected and does not relate to you or traced on you, you may be free indeed, but casinos are very detestable when it comes to issues on bugs.

If someone finds that bug and uses it to their advantage, the casino will find out about it sooner or later and punish that person for rigging the casino. But if that person reports it to the casino so the casino can fix the bug, the casino will not penalize you and may even reward you for helping the casino find the bug. Now, what is a person's purpose or motive after he knows there is a bug in the casino? Will he report it to the casino or use it himself?

It comes down to personal integrity, I suppose

If you're the honest, trustworthy type, you'll blow the whistle on the worm. Obviously, you don't want your fellow gamblers to lose their money due to a bug in the system. Plus, the bonus money from the casino if you catch it is a great touch, right?

But if you believe that "the world is a jungle" and that "every man for himself," you might try to take advantage of the flaw. A gift from the cosmos, if you will. However, keep in mind that casinos have hawk-like surveillance systems. They will surely attack at any moment

Yes, it depends really on which type of person he or she is because that will be the same reason on how would they react to the situation if it was laid on to them and of course some will have the mindset to tell the casino that they found some bug. But in most instances, I would not be surprised if they will get blinded by the opportunity that are present in front of them specially if in that same time they already had a successive loss in their recent activity or they badly need some funds.

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Quote from: len01 on August 03, 2023, 05:32:54 AM

Quote from: LDL on August 03, 2023, 02:00:56 AM

Professional gamblers and honest minded never cheat in gambling but poor minded definitely cheat in gambling. Of course it depends on the nature of the gambler, I never cheat on gambling or encourage anyone to cheat.
But if someone has participated in fraudulent activities in gambling and casino then surely the authority will take sufficient action on his account and his account will be penalized.
But if there is a systematic bug then many low minded gamblers cheat but their number is very less.

regarding professional gamblers, of course they will ignore cheating on gambling because professional gamblers have good behavior and always think about the risks they will get so they will not commit these frauds. and for the problem of bugs in gambling which results in losses to casinos in the abuse of gamblers I think that is very bad. because its better to tell the casino about the bug and get the equivalent reward than having to take advantage of the bug which is risky for his account.

I think its very rare now to cheat in online gambling because every casino has a fraud detection system but for physical casinos it may still happen that a gambler cheats in gambling but its very rare.

And I also don't think that professional gamblers will cheat in their gambling, because maybe as you said they are responsible gamblers. But for the bug problem it seems like I think they have the possibility to take advantage of the situation, if indeed it could result in a real win why not. Everyone wants money and their goal is to gamble for money. And including those who are professionals may be able to take advantage of this opportunity. Lastly, in my experience now it is rare to have a system bug in the casino because they are very strict in their guarding, the casino involves a lot of money in it so of course they will tighten the system even more.
I agree that cheating rarely happens there, as I have said above that now there are rarely cases of cheating in casinos because they have a stricter and more accurate detection system.

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Quote from: LDL on August 03, 2023, 02:00:56 AM

Professional gamblers and honest minded never cheat in gambling but poor minded definitely cheat in gambling. Of course it depends on the nature of the gambler, I never cheat on gambling or encourage anyone to cheat.
But if someone has participated in fraudulent activities in gambling and casino then surely the authority will take sufficient action on his account and his account will be penalized.
But if there is a systematic bug then many low minded gamblers cheat but their number is very less.

regarding professional gamblers, of course they will ignore cheating on gambling because professional gamblers have good behavior and always think about the risks they will get so they will not commit these frauds. and for the problem of bugs in gambling which results in losses to casinos in the abuse of gamblers I think that is very bad. because its better to tell the casino about the bug and get the equivalent reward than having to take advantage of the bug which is risky for his account.

I think its very rare now to cheat in online gambling because every casino has a fraud detection system but for physical casinos it may still happen that a gambler cheats in gambling but its very rare.

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Professional gamblers and honest minded never cheat in gambling but poor minded definitely cheat in gambling. Of course it depends on the nature of the gambler, I never cheat on gambling or encourage anyone to cheat.
But if someone has participated in fraudulent activities in gambling and casino then surely the authority will take sufficient action on his account and his account will be penalized.
But if there is a systematic bug then many low minded gamblers cheat but their number is very less.

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Quote from: Silberman on July 28, 2023, 11:33:50 PM

That will depend entirely on the morality or the ethics of that person, I am quite sure the majority of the gamblers out there will never think about cheating the casino even if the financial gain could be high, however there is also a small number of gamblers out there which are looking for bugs or even trying to find ways to provoke them, and it is clear that for gamblers like that if they happen to find a bug they will take advantage of it immediately and hope for the best at the moment they ask for a withdrawal.

It's because they think what they're about to do to the casino could have a bad effect on their account, so they don't want to try it. Maybe a minority of gamblers or cheaters are looking to exploit that bug loophole to their advantage. But the casino will know sooner or later so that the casino can later block their account and they can't play gambling at the casino anymore. If they report it to the casino, the casino may reward them well.

Quote from: slapper on July 29, 2023, 04:32:48 PM

It comes down to personal integrity, I suppose

If you're the honest, trustworthy type, you'll blow the whistle on the worm. Obviously, you don't want your fellow gamblers to lose their money due to a bug in the system. Plus, the bonus money from the casino if you catch it is a great touch, right?

But if you believe that "the world is a jungle" and that "every man for himself," you might try to take advantage of the flaw. A gift from the cosmos, if you will. However, keep in mind that casinos have hawk-like surveillance systems. They will surely attack at any moment

Surely the casinos will know. The accounts of gamblers who rigged the casino system would surely be banned until they could no longer register with the casino. And that is a loss for those cheating gamblers because if it was a trusted casino, they already lost 1 casino because of their cheating. It is very difficult to find a trusted casino, so we shouldn't do anything that can harm us. But that's up to everyone because we must also be responsible for our actions.

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Quote from: masulum on July 26, 2023, 07:43:49 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on July 26, 2023, 06:52:15 AM

If someone left their house open, and someone goes inside and steals something, it's stealing. Taking advantage of a bug to make money and trying to withdraw it is an attempt of stealing, no doubt about that.

That's right, if there is an open house, there is definitely a potential for theft. But if the bug is in the game and our winning is in the time the bug is running, maybe our money will be frozen. It's not about hacking, but bugs during the game. Well, when that happened, I thought it could be considered cheating by provider, that's why I said that instead of losing our chance to win from bugs because in the end the money was frozen, it's better to report maybe you can get a bigger reward. However, we ourselves are definitely not aware that bugs are happening in the game.

It depends. If you are playing a slot and suddenly get a bonus round without hitting the required number of scatters, you know it's a bug, right? And if you actually winning money with that, it's not a front end bug, rather, it's a bug definitely worth reporting. And the reward from the slot provider for reporting it should be substantial.

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Quote from: STT on July 29, 2023, 04:42:31 PM

Most fair reaction to a widespread bug is reverse or nullify recent games involving that bug. I dont think you can easily sort those who know and those unaware but still playing the same bug. Anyone who outright took advantage and repeated actions in a way which exploited the bug may not be treated as fairly to just return the balances back to what they were before prior to the bug. Everything is audited so I doubt its often a good idea to ignore bugs rather then report them, casinos should reward anyone trying to help them of course.

The bug can be rectified,but we should ready to give time to the developer to rectify those bugs.When the bug comes,at first try to find where the bug is occur.If the bug is not the serious one,you can avoid that one.The application may be under maintenance,soon the bug removed by the developer.Some application ready to pay,if you are ready to share them the bug occurred.Their is option in almost all the website by the developer.After escalation,they will pay you real dollars which can be used for your pocket money.

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Most fair reaction to a widespread bug is reverse or nullify recent games involving that bug. I dont think you can easily sort those who know and those unaware but still playing the same bug. Anyone who outright took advantage and repeated actions in a way which exploited the bug may not be treated as fairly to just return the balances back to what they were before prior to the bug. Everything is audited so I doubt its often a good idea to ignore bugs rather then report them, casinos should reward anyone trying to help them of course.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on July 26, 2023, 08:22:15 AM

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Quote from: Eureka_07 on July 22, 2023, 09:58:57 AM

It depends on the bug. If you are not aware of it, it should be forgiven. But if it was a proven exploitation, then your account would be justified in being punished. Generally, if you know of some crucial bug, do not try to make use of it; eventually, you'll be punished for taking advantage of it. Be fair.

Now the question is how do they know the difference or be able to identify you being aware of the bug or not, how will a casino know your true plight and intentions not to harm or attack them, i think the best solution here is to completely avoid bug, they have a system that controls such and if you're suspected for one they or be friendly with you by any chance, once a bug is detected and does not relate to you or traced on you, you may be free indeed, but casinos are very detestable when it comes to issues on bugs.

If someone finds that bug and uses it to their advantage, the casino will find out about it sooner or later and punish that person for rigging the casino. But if that person reports it to the casino so the casino can fix the bug, the casino will not penalize you and may even reward you for helping the casino find the bug. Now, what is a person's purpose or motive after he knows there is a bug in the casino? Will he report it to the casino or use it himself?

It comes down to personal integrity, I suppose

If you're the honest, trustworthy type, you'll blow the whistle on the worm. Obviously, you don't want your fellow gamblers to lose their money due to a bug in the system. Plus, the bonus money from the casino if you catch it is a great touch, right?

But if you believe that "the world is a jungle" and that "every man for himself," you might try to take advantage of the flaw. A gift from the cosmos, if you will. However, keep in mind that casinos have hawk-like surveillance systems. They will surely attack at any moment

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