Will you find it offensive to be referred to as an addicted gambler? - page 9.

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Quote from: Razmirraz on June 22, 2023, 11:52:50 AM

As long as I don't harm others, I never cared what other people thought of me. Whether or not someone is addicted to gambling depends on how other people judge it, personally the person never realizes he is addicted or not. Gamblers have their own motivations so they never get tired of playing gambling, some are just having fun after working hard, want to get the money they have spent and there are also those who want to get even more wins.
The awareness of each individual has a different level, some are sensitive to the conditions experienced after visiting too many gambling places or as a result of hearing too much from what other people say.

Yes, I agree with you, as long as we don't harm other people, why should we listen to what they have to say? in this context those who say something that is not pleasant to hear or something like that. It's different if they advise me, even if I'm not addicted, then I will be happy to listen to their advice.
If I'm addicted and out of control maybe I'll be resentful and angry when I'm counseled, similarly we'll get angry when people say things we don't want to hear about us.
And maybe if I feel that I can't control myself, I will ask for help from the people closest to me and also those I can trust, so that they always remind me when I am out of control in gambling. That is something that will be very helpful in my opinion, because they will not hesitate to remind us, and we will definitely accept it, because when they start talking something wrong might have happened to me.

There are really that just people who are emotionally impulsive on which even if they do hear out things about them even though its not true but still they would really be liking to have some argumentations with it which

it isnt really just that ideal on making up some quarrels and interrogations basing up on what they have said.It is true that as long you arent putting up someone in harm or getting involved into someones life then it should be find. Just let those people do tell all the things that they do like, important thing on here is that you do know on whats the truth and whats the situation you are into when it comes to gambling thing.

Its not really that bad to gamble as long you do still have the full control of yourself and with your finances.People do usually fucked up themselves on the time that they do lose control and complete
awareness on things on which they do make out some vague decisions just because they cant think off clearly already due to these kind of distractions.

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Quote from: erep on June 22, 2023, 04:25:13 PM

Beginners will not be familiar with the word gambling addict so they are easily offended if they find out that someone has told them, they will argue and deny the problem, they will even clarify that they are not in the position of the gambling addiction circle, but when they find out their gambling activity has nothing to do with people otherwise they will not be easily offended and ignore other people's negative comments.

Not admitting addiction does not mean they are not addicted.
Basically everyone who comes back for the second time at gambling has been declared an addict, but definitely in a different category. The more often they come back, the stronger the addiction, it's just that they don't realize that they are addicted. But I don't think they need to admit their addiction, but maybe they need to be aware of it so they don't loss of control.

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Quote from: Maslate on June 22, 2023, 02:30:51 PM

I don’t think being addicted to gambling will make me offend anymore. So what? As long as you are not causing someone’s life into jeopardy then being addicted to gambling will never be a big issue. And the fact that it’s my own funds that I’ve been spending the whole time while gambling so my addiction should never be an issue at all.

You are wiser in thinking because your gambling activity has nothing to do with anyone and there are no words to make you easily offended even though you know there are people who say negatively about gambling addiction behind your back, but the fact that you are gambling does not harm anyone, so they have no right to comment anything about you and I are sure that no one will say to your face that you are a gambling addict.

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However, for some beginners who easily fall into gambling addiction might be hard for them to admit that they are gambling addicts, and would want to deny it as much as they can.

Beginners will not be familiar with the word gambling addict so they are easily offended if they find out that someone has told them, they will argue and deny the problem, they will even clarify that they are not in the position of the gambling addiction circle, but when they find out their gambling activity has nothing to do with people otherwise they will not be easily offended and ignore other people's negative comments.

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Quote from: Queentoshi on June 18, 2023, 02:00:30 PM

Many people find it difficult to accept who they are and the bad habits that they have, accepting a habit is the first step that will determine if any help offered to you will work. As a gambler, will you find it offensive if you are referred to as a gambling addict? will you easily accept it or try to give excuses like some other people do, saying that they are not addicted to gambling when the signs are clearly there. Do you think identifying as an addicted gambler will make people stereotype you. The answer is different for every gambler here.

The moment a gambling addict identifies as a addict, he is half way to recovery. But not wanting to be called a wanted a gambling addict is living in denial of the severity of the addiction. In gambling anonymous meetings you would hear something that goes like this, "Hello, my name is Tiger and I a gambling addict."
There are over one billion gamblers worldwide, being called a gambler going to make me get offended but being called an addict will get me offended because I would take it as an insult from a lay person.

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Quote from: Queentoshi on June 18, 2023, 02:00:30 PM

Many people find it difficult to accept who they are and the bad habits that they have, accepting a habit is the first step that will determine if any help offered to you will work. As a gambler, will you find it offensive if you are referred to as a gambling addict? will you easily accept it or try to give excuses like some other people do, saying that they are not addicted to gambling when the signs are clearly there. Do you think identifying as an addicted gambler will make people stereotype you. The answer is different for every gambler here.

I don’t think being addicted to gambling will make me offend anymore. So what? As long as you are not causing someone’s life into jeopardy then being addicted to gambling will never be a big issue. And the fact that it’s my own funds that I’ve been spending the whole time while gambling so my addiction should never be an issue at all. However, for some beginners who easily fall into gambling addiction might be hard for them to admit that they are gambling addicts, and would want to deny it as much as they can.

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Quote from: Razmirraz on June 22, 2023, 11:52:50 AM

As long as I don't harm others, I never cared what other people thought of me. Whether or not someone is addicted to gambling depends on how other people judge it, personally the person never realizes he is addicted or not. Gamblers have their own motivations so they never get tired of playing gambling, some are just having fun after working hard, want to get the money they have spent and there are also those who want to get even more wins.
The awareness of each individual has a different level, some are sensitive to the conditions experienced after visiting too many gambling places or as a result of hearing too much from what other people say.

Yes, I agree with you, as long as we don't harm other people, why should we listen to what they have to say? in this context those who say something that is not pleasant to hear or something like that. It's different if they advise me, even if I'm not addicted, then I will be happy to listen to their advice.
If I'm addicted and out of control maybe I'll be resentful and angry when I'm counseled, similarly we'll get angry when people say things we don't want to hear about us.
And maybe if I feel that I can't control myself, I will ask for help from the people closest to me and also those I can trust, so that they always remind me when I am out of control in gambling. That is something that will be very helpful in my opinion, because they will not hesitate to remind us, and we will definitely accept it, because when they start talking something wrong might have happened to me.

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As long as I don't harm others, I never cared what other people thought of me. Whether or not someone is addicted to gambling depends on how other people judge it, personally the person never realizes he is addicted or not. Gamblers have their own motivations so they never get tired of playing gambling, some are just having fun after working hard, want to get the money they have spent and there are also those who want to get even more wins.
The awareness of each individual has a different level, some are sensitive to the conditions experienced after visiting too many gambling places or as a result of hearing too much from what other people say.

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Quote from: Queentoshi on June 18, 2023, 02:00:30 PM

Many people find it difficult to accept who they are and the bad habits that they have, accepting a habit is the first step that will determine if any help offered to you will work. As a gambler, will you find it offensive if you are referred to as a gambling addict? will you easily accept it or try to give excuses like some other people do, saying that they are not addicted to gambling when the signs are clearly there. Do you think identifying as an addicted gambler will make people stereotype you. The answer is different for every gambler here.

I won't bother to challenge anyone that referred me as an addicted gambler that is if I consistently win most of my bets and as well divert my earnings into other investment which is well known and visible to people in the area, however if it's the other way round that is as an addicted gambler after being bankrupted and rekted then it becomes offensive to me if someone referred me as an addicted gambler probably due to consigns with regard to all the losses will prompt some emotional behavior that mean being aggressive to people who might have feel uncomfortable with my gambling habit.

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Quote from: Queentoshi on June 18, 2023, 02:00:30 PM

Many people find it difficult to accept who they are and the bad habits that they have, accepting a habit is the first step that will determine if any help offered to you will work. As a gambler, will you find it offensive if you are referred to as a gambling addict? will you easily accept it or try to give excuses like some other people do, saying that they are not addicted to gambling when the signs are clearly there. Do you think identifying as an addicted gambler will make people stereotype you. The answer is different for every gambler here.

In particular, if they know for themselves that they are gambling responsibly and within reasonable boundaries, gamblers who are falsely labeled of being gambling addicts without knowing their daily gambling activity will undoubtedly feel offended. If someone only saw them betting and accuses them of being gambling addicts without knowing anything about their gambling habits, it will be disrespectful.

The denial stage will continue for those who are truly addicted to gambling, especially if they are still unaware that they are compulsive gamblers. Even though they initially reject the truth, they will eventually come to understand that they are engaging in excessive behavior. It will be somehow offensive to them but as they notice that they are exceeding beyond the proper limits, they will still accept it in time.

Personally, I will feel offended if I will be accused as a gambling addict. First, I only gamble privately and I as much as possible, I'm not showing it in public to avoid judgement. I also know how to control myself and just do gambling occasionally or if I have enough funds for it so it will be unfair for me to be accused as addicted to gambling if I know for myself that I'm dealing with the risks wisely.

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Quote from: Queentoshi on June 18, 2023, 02:00:30 PM

Many people find it difficult to accept who they are and the bad habits that they have, accepting a habit is the first step that will determine if any help offered to you will work. As a gambler, will you find it offensive if you are referred to as a gambling addict? will you easily accept it or try to give excuses like some other people do, saying that they are not addicted to gambling when the signs are clearly there. Do you think identifying as an addicted gambler will make people stereotype you. The answer is different for every gambler here.

I find it pretty offensive of course because at the first place, I am not really an addicted gambler but maybe I got the bad impression because every time my friends and relatives see/visit me in my house, I am playing gambling in front of my computer. They did not know that it was only just a co-incidence and my allocated play time in gambling is not that long.

As for my budget, it wasn't also huge enough. It's because I know that being an addicted to gambling is a very hard habit. It can also be hard to break once you are heavily attached to it, so it's better to just avoid it as much as we can and be aware about the signs so can apply a fix before the it gets worse.

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Quote from: robelneo on June 19, 2023, 08:44:28 AM

Quote from: Queentoshi on June 18, 2023, 02:00:30 PM

The answer is different for every gambler here.

For me, that's offensive whether you're addicted to gambling or not because being addicted to gambling connotes or described that you have no control over how you gamble and you are someone that can not be trusted with money, this is the reason why compulsive gamblers deny that they are addicted to gambling and those who gamble responsibly will also deny and challenge those people who refer them as addicted to gambling.

This is something that we all watch out for, people describing or treating us as addicted to gambling, so if we gamble be sure that we minimize your time and don't let others, who knows you, how much money you spend.

People are judgemental and it could ruin your reputation and character, especially if your reputation is part of your job or business.

I think a real addicted gambler won't care about it because they are mentally ill. They are not normal anymore and maybe some are happy about it because they think it was some kind of a compliment and they know to themselves that they are really an addict and they love it because it gives them a good dose of happy hormones or dopamine. The ones who will get annoyed when someone call it that term are the non-addicted gamblers.

Sometimes those who said that are only trippy and have no strong proof that the people they are messing around are truly an addict one but it's already their problem once those people take a revenge and do harm on them.

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Nope, especially if I'm showing symptoms and if I'm clinically diagnosed. For me, there's no shame being labeled as one as long as you are putting efforts to make a change. But I won't invalidate those who would be offended, there are just people who prefers to secret things especially if it is something majority won't be proud of. On my case, I'm fine with it 'coz knowing myself, it would help me realize how bad am I doing, and would push me to do better. We are all different in the first place.

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Quote from: Russlenat on June 22, 2023, 08:44:16 AM

Doesn't really matter to me if they see me as a gambling addict because I'm not entitled to make some explanation to them so that their view towards me will change, I already accepted and expected some stuffs like these that will happen to me as no matter what I will say to them, their view will stay the same because they see me as an active to that specific injury. Actually, no words will sway them to make change their minds and most people are actually like that.

Yes, but there are some of them who think this is a problem and can offend him. But for me personally, it's the same as for you guys who think it's not a big deal because I really feel like I'm in that position and I most likely won't be offended. The location factor can also affect whether or not someone is offended when someone is called a gambler, for example, if I am gathering at an event and one of my friends in a group calls me a gambler openly in public, then, of course, I will be offended because I don't want many people to know my bad.

if your friend says that you are a gambler in public and witnessed by many people, that includes harassing you and can even give other people a bad look. I would even be offended if said in public. But even though they are not in public, there is no right for them to say they are gambling addicts, because only people who say that do not have any activities. Gambling is sometimes only used as entertainment, nothing more than that.

Would be worse if there's no professional diagnosis 'coz you'd be stereotyped or labeled in that case and there's no one who deserve such kind of treatment. Addiction is not limited to symptoms alone, this is why we have professionals in this field. There'll be tests to be conducted in order to determine a condition.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on June 22, 2023, 04:20:27 AM

Self denial is deception. An addict that denies to be one is only extending the revelation day because people know you more than how you even know yourself based on your attitude and relationships with them. Addict gamblers are like drunk who will always keep saying they don't get intoxicated when they drink but have behaviours known with drunks . If I'm a gambling addict then I should be able to accept that without excuse except I'm not one, just like I am not Grin

Comparison difficult but at the same time good. There are people who drink alcohol and would like to stop drinking, but due to their weak will and environment (even to a greater extent) they will probably never be able to do this. It can be the same with gambling, adrenaline is also a drug that makes you come back again and again. We could refuse it, probably yes, but so many events constantly occur in the information space that remind us of this adrenaline every time that it is not so easy to resist.

Even though the adrenaline will keep coming to us, we can resist it until it goes away. But it is never easy to be able to refuse, especially if we have become gambling addicts who only think about gambling. We'll come back to gambling anyway because we can't control ourselves and stop the adrenaline yet. It requires a strong will to say and act to stop gambling. And not many people can do it, so actually the choice to stop gambling or cure gambling addiction is already in our hands and it's up to us to decide.

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Doesn't really matter to me if they see me as a gambling addict because I'm not entitled to make some explanation to them so that their view towards me will change, I already accepted and expected some stuffs like these that will happen to me as no matter what I will say to them, their view will stay the same because they see me as an active to that specific injury. Actually, no words will sway them to make change their minds and most people are actually like that.

Yes, but there are some of them who think this is a problem and can offend him. But for me personally, it's the same as for you guys who think it's not a big deal because I really feel like I'm in that position and I most likely won't be offended. The location factor can also affect whether or not someone is offended when someone is called a gambler, for example, if I am gathering at an event and one of my friends in a group calls me a gambler openly in public, then, of course, I will be offended because I don't want many people to know my bad.

if your friend says that you are a gambler in public and witnessed by many people, that includes harassing you and can even give other people a bad look. I would even be offended if said in public. But even though they are not in public, there is no right for them to say they are gambling addicts, because only people who say that do not have any activities. Gambling is sometimes only used as entertainment, nothing more than that.

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Quote from: Russlenat on June 22, 2023, 08:44:16 AM

Doesn't really matter to me if they see me as a gambling addict because I'm not entitled to make some explanation to them so that their view towards me will change, I already accepted and expected some stuffs like these that will happen to me as no matter what I will say to them, their view will stay the same because they see me as an active to that specific injury. Actually, no words will sway them to make change their minds and most people are actually like that.

Yes, but there are some of them who think this is a problem and can offend him. But for me personally, it's the same as for you guys who think it's not a big deal because I really feel like I'm in that position and I most likely won't be offended. The location factor can also affect whether or not someone is offended when someone is called a gambler, for example, if I am gathering at an event and one of my friends in a group calls me a gambler openly in public, then, of course, I will be offended because I don't want many people to know my bad.

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Not really, anyone can say I'm an addict gambler, I'm a gay, I'm a loser, etc and I can't control their mouths.

The one who control better than anyone else is you, so if you think you're not an addict, don't need to care what those people saying towards you. It's a different matter if your gambling addict aren't good e.g. you borrow money to gamble, you use fake KYC, creating multiple accounts, always gamble when you not doing anything etc.

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I think if we are not addicted to gambling then it might seem offensive. But we should not take it seriously because it is our responsibility to protect ourselves. Those who want to return to the mainstream of life, have nothing to despair. It's not that addicts can never return to a normal life. It requires strong willpower. In the case of gambling addicts, it can be seen that when dopamine is released in the brain after winning something, their excitement ratio is higher than that of normal people that's why you should learn to think positively and control yourself.

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Quote from: Queentoshi on June 18, 2023, 02:00:30 PM

Many people find it difficult to accept who they are and the bad habits that they have, accepting a habit is the first step that will determine if any help offered to you will work. As a gambler, will you find it offensive if you are referred to as a gambling addict? will you easily accept it or try to give excuses like some other people do, saying that they are not addicted to gambling when the signs are clearly there. Do you think identifying as an addicted gambler will make people stereotype you. The answer is different for every gambler here.

Doesn't really matter to me if they see me as a gambling addict because I'm not entitled to make some explanation to them so that their view towards me will change, I already accepted and expected some stuffs like these that will happen to me as no matter what I will say to them, their view will stay the same because they see me as an active to that specific injury. Actually, no words will sway them to make change their minds and most people are actually like that.

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Being told that you're an addict to a vices is indeed offensive that's why people tend to defend themselves and give excuses. Although it may pretty look obvious to other people, but those who are gambling addicts often be in the in denial stage. If I experienced being told a gambling addict, I will also defend myself that I am not. Of course, I'll give excuses or reasons that I am not an addict. Even real gambling addicts can't accept the fact that they're already addicted to it. Cause being an addict is never a positive thing. But being a casual gambler doesn't make you a gambling addict already. It depends on the behavior of the person when it comes to gambling.

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