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Quote from: Mauser on July 04, 2023, 02:32:14 AM

Quote from: n0ne on July 03, 2023, 06:20:02 PM

If someone who is close to us or a friend circle referring me as a addicted gambler isn't a big issue. If a common man terms me a gambling addict then I won't find it good, because the person's view upon me will be different from what he had earlier. The society is developed in such a way that gambling money won't bring success as well as it is something against God and not the right thing. For this reason even my earnings through my job could be connected with gambling. Better is to hide our gambling activities and stay chill.

I am the exact opposite to you, if someone I don't really know calls me a gambling addict I wouldn't care about it. Why should I care what a stranger thinks of me? If I would be concerned what other people that I have no connection with think of me, than I would be worrying about it all day. But if my family or my close friends would call me a gambling addict it would make me think. First of all it would irritate me and I would need to find out if he only said it as a joke, in anger or if he really means that. The thing with family and friends is that they know us pretty well and have a good view on our life. So in case a good friend is concerned that I gamble too much and has the believe that I am an addict that I would talk with him as open as possible and try to convince him otherwise or hear what else he has to say.

It's better to have an open ears and mind when discussing this concern with your love ones, they have reasons why they will call you as it is and if you are not a close-minded person, you'll be able to re-assess yourself, though most of the people who already falling into addiction are in to a denial stage,

they are not willing to admit but if you have that good conciousness in yourself and you also considering the surrounding people, you'll be able to weight things out and decide if you needed to adjust or you still have the explanation why you involve yourself into gambling.

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Quote from: n0ne on July 03, 2023, 06:20:02 PM

If someone who is close to us or a friend circle referring me as a addicted gambler isn't a big issue. If a common man terms me a gambling addict then I won't find it good, because the person's view upon me will be different from what he had earlier. The society is developed in such a way that gambling money won't bring success as well as it is something against God and not the right thing. For this reason even my earnings through my job could be connected with gambling. Better is to hide our gambling activities and stay chill.

I am the exact opposite to you, if someone I don't really know calls me a gambling addict I wouldn't care about it. Why should I care what a stranger thinks of me? If I would be concerned what other people that I have no connection with think of me, than I would be worrying about it all day. But if my family or my close friends would call me a gambling addict it would make me think. First of all it would irritate me and I would need to find out if he only said it as a joke, in anger or if he really means that. The thing with family and friends is that they know us pretty well and have a good view on our life. So in case a good friend is concerned that I gamble too much and has the believe that I am an addict that I would talk with him as open as possible and try to convince him otherwise or hear what else he has to say.

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Depending on who is the one telling it, if it is my own close friend who know how I'm dealing with gambling, I wont feel offended but if it is coming from someone who I do not even know, I'll feel offended. Simply because how can someone we do not even know judge us for something that they do not even know the fact? Anyway, even if I feel offended but I will not argue them because it is their own right to say something about us, I'll just ask them "who are you?" Grin

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Quote from: danherbias07 on July 03, 2023, 06:15:37 PM

Quote from: molsewid on July 02, 2023, 10:15:41 AM

Quote from: Japinat on July 01, 2023, 02:58:13 PM

In the same sense, their say towards you will not change even if you're not that addicted towards gambling or not even close to become an addict. Let's face that reality already as they will always have a say about you, no matter what you will do.

The important thing is that, like what you've said, we are transparent to our own family and that they know the reality and our status towards gambling. For sure they will understand because you are open to them but if you do that secretly, expect the exact same opposite of it.

Yes people are get used to stereotype all the people, when they heard that someone is gamble they already think that someone is addict. So just like them, let us just get used to it and don't mind them as ling as we are happy and we are being entertained by gambling as long as we have discipline and we know how to control our emotions over it.

Gossips. That's all they can do but they cannot hurt you or your feelings if we just ignore them. They have no proof of it, they can call us whatever they like but in the end, it's our own life that we should be worried about and not the things other people will say especially if they are not part of the family, circle of friends, or a relative.
I always tell stories with my Saturday night friends about how I bet on a sport (NBA most of the time) and they are actually amazed especially if those are winning bets. In fact, they like to do it too when the season starts. But the point is, I never once heard them call me an addicted gambler, we are all just happy sharing stories of how we gambled when we are young afterward. No one is judging anyone, no one is stopping anyone, and we just like adding more fuel to entertain us during a game which is gambling against each other or the sports bookies.
In fact, I won a bet of a full round of beers and snacks against a friend betting for the Nuggets. Cheesy

I think what I mean is, friends and families won't judge you easily but other people who don't really know you will tell gossip without any remorse. There will always be those kinds of people.

Exactly. We choose what offends us, and if it's something that's petty coming from other people, it's best to ignore it. Unless of course if it's damaging your reputation and already affecting your work and family, then act accordingly. At that point, addressing it privately is better to avoid more issues arising and more parties getting involved. Plus, it helps resolving the issue quite faster since you are directly in contact with the person that is mislabeling you into something that you aren't.

In my line of work, any such issue isn't really a problem. I work in the healthcare industry, and I'm known to gamble regularly but not on amounts that are worrying. It doesn't cause a lot of negative comments, though it does cause a lot of people to come to me and borrow some money lol.

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If someone who is close to us or a friend circle referring me as a addicted gambler isn't a big issue. If a common man terms me a gambling addict then I won't find it good, because the person's view upon me will be different from what he had earlier. The society is developed in such a way that gambling money won't bring success as well as it is something against God and not the right thing. For this reason even my earnings through my job could be connected with gambling. Better is to hide our gambling activities and stay chill.

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Quote from: molsewid on July 02, 2023, 10:15:41 AM

Quote from: Japinat on July 01, 2023, 02:58:13 PM

In the same sense, their say towards you will not change even if you're not that addicted towards gambling or not even close to become an addict. Let's face that reality already as they will always have a say about you, no matter what you will do.

The important thing is that, like what you've said, we are transparent to our own family and that they know the reality and our status towards gambling. For sure they will understand because you are open to them but if you do that secretly, expect the exact same opposite of it.

Yes people are get used to stereotype all the people, when they heard that someone is gamble they already think that someone is addict. So just like them, let us just get used to it and don't mind them as ling as we are happy and we are being entertained by gambling as long as we have discipline and we know how to control our emotions over it.

Gossips. That's all they can do but they cannot hurt you or your feelings if we just ignore them. They have no proof of it, they can call us whatever they like but in the end, it's our own life that we should be worried about and not the things other people will say especially if they are not part of the family, circle of friends, or a relative.
I always tell stories with my Saturday night friends about how I bet on a sport (NBA most of the time) and they are actually amazed especially if those are winning bets. In fact, they like to do it too when the season starts. But the point is, I never once heard them call me an addicted gambler, we are all just happy sharing stories of how we gambled when we are young afterward. No one is judging anyone, no one is stopping anyone, and we just like adding more fuel to entertain us during a game which is gambling against each other or the sports bookies.
In fact, I won a bet of a full round of beers and snacks against a friend betting for the Nuggets. Cheesy

I think what I mean is, friends and families won't judge you easily but other people who don't really know you will tell gossip without any remorse. There will always be those kinds of people.

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Quote from: Queentoshi on June 18, 2023, 01:00:30 PM

Many people find it difficult to accept who they are and the bad habits that they have, accepting a habit is the first step that will determine if any help offered to you will work. As a gambler, will you find it offensive if you are referred to as a gambling addict? will you easily accept it or try to give excuses like some other people do, saying that they are not addicted to gambling when the signs are clearly there. Do you think identifying as an addicted gambler will make people stereotype you. The answer is different for every gambler here.

I would only be offended if that was true and i would be in denial about it. I don't see word "addict" offensive and since i know myself i know when i am addicted. I am addicted to many things in life and most of them are good for me. I still call them addictions because i couldn't quit them if i wanted.

I am sort of addicted to gambling as well but it's in control. I am not spending more money then i should and i am having more fun then having regrets. I think sometimes people need to hear truth from their friends about addiction, no matter if it hurts them or not. Being in denial is the worst.

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Quote from: klidex on July 03, 2023, 01:51:59 PM

Quote from: Josefjix on July 02, 2023, 02:40:20 PM

Quote from: bittraffic on July 02, 2023, 12:56:49 PM

People like to talk about themselves and how they struggle. Kind of normal I think they share how they suffer and survive, its how they voice out their feelings and the willing listeners and more willing to listen if they also encounter the same like the support groups. If they find ears here, it's still gonna help the person's feelings.

You can't stop anyone from badmouthing though. Even the saints will have people talking behind them. Even your siblings do that to you. You just have to get used to it. Not find it offensive anymore.

My classmates referred to me as an addicted gambler during my early gambling days, which infuriated me, but as time passed, I just let it go and discovered more meaningful things to do with my life other than settling and spending my precious time arguing about some unimportant concerns. Finding things offensive doesn't really matter; it's simply frivolous talk; at this point in my life, all I worry about is preparing and eventually attaining the objectives I have set. People will always talk, and the more we try to enforce or prohibit the badmouthing, the more it will persist; this is typical, therefore I consider it a minor concern.

I understand the situation you are in when you are offended by your friend's words, but here the point is that you have to be patient and try to process your friend's words without emotion.
Your friend indirectly tells you about addictive activities that you are not aware of and if your friend often says about your addiction, you should start approaching your friend and asking what made him say that you are a gambling addict.
Sometimes addicts have high emotions and are easily offended, but try to respond wisely to your case and I'm sure you will be better off if you get answers from your friends and immediately ask for help to get out of your addiction zone.

You shouldnt really be that too sensitive if there's someone who do call you an addict because those people wont really be calling you like that if they havent seen or notice something specially into your close friends or

loved ones on who have noticed that you are already that spending that much in gambling.Be grateful that there are still people who do really mind about your situation because most cases on which most people wont really be showing that care after all and this is why it would really be that important that you should be that open-minded and really be accepting on whatever these persons been telling.If they've been able to tell you like that then try to re-assess on the things that you've been doing.Try to check out your finances and try out to see if ever you are still that on good shape when it comes to your spending.

On the time that you have seen that you are already go past limit then it would really be just that sensible that you should really be needing to make out adjustments and thanks to those people
who do able to remind you in.

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Quote from: GigaBit on July 03, 2023, 12:30:46 PM

There are some people who try to offend others. If someone gets angry at that moment, those people will annoy him more.

This is real but you show them how much you're affected if ever this happens to you again so that they'll know that what they do isn't good at all. Because if they're having fun annoying others and referring them to the terms that the person they're pertaining to doesn't want to, that's disgusting.

Quote from: GigaBit on July 03, 2023, 12:30:46 PM

But those who can understand this matter deeply never show anger. They simply want to avoid the issue.

We do know that there are some people that has this type of patience but it couldn't be us.

Quote from: GigaBit on July 03, 2023, 12:30:46 PM

There are also some gamblers who cannot easily identify themselves as addicted gamblers. When such accusations are brought against him, he will take the matter negatively. Above all it is better to take these things easily.

At first, it's gonna be annoying to them and there's no feel of guilt. But eventually upon looking at themselves and realizing it, that's how they will just accept it lightly.

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It's like any other addiction some people understand they are addicted and don't get offended but most people would be. Most will.likely say they just like gambling and not even understand they are addicted. It usually takes someone from outside theor gambling bubble to let them know so if someone is having a really difficult time with their addiction it might help to let them know so that you can also offer advise on where to go to get help.

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Quote from: Josefjix on July 02, 2023, 02:40:20 PM

Quote from: bittraffic on July 02, 2023, 12:56:49 PM

People like to talk about themselves and how they struggle. Kind of normal I think they share how they suffer and survive, its how they voice out their feelings and the willing listeners and more willing to listen if they also encounter the same like the support groups. If they find ears here, it's still gonna help the person's feelings.

You can't stop anyone from badmouthing though. Even the saints will have people talking behind them. Even your siblings do that to you. You just have to get used to it. Not find it offensive anymore.

My classmates referred to me as an addicted gambler during my early gambling days, which infuriated me, but as time passed, I just let it go and discovered more meaningful things to do with my life other than settling and spending my precious time arguing about some unimportant concerns. Finding things offensive doesn't really matter; it's simply frivolous talk; at this point in my life, all I worry about is preparing and eventually attaining the objectives I have set. People will always talk, and the more we try to enforce or prohibit the badmouthing, the more it will persist; this is typical, therefore I consider it a minor concern.

I understand the situation you are in when you are offended by your friend's words, but here the point is that you have to be patient and try to process your friend's words without emotion.
Your friend indirectly tells you about addictive activities that you are not aware of and if your friend often says about your addiction, you should start approaching your friend and asking what made him say that you are a gambling addict.
Sometimes addicts have high emotions and are easily offended, but try to respond wisely to your case and I'm sure you will be better off if you get answers from your friends and immediately ask for help to get out of your addiction zone.

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Quote from: Josefjix on July 02, 2023, 02:40:20 PM

Quote from: bittraffic on July 02, 2023, 12:56:49 PM

People like to talk about themselves and how they struggle. Kind of normal I think they share how they suffer and survive, its how they voice out their feelings and the willing listeners and more willing to listen if they also encounter the same like the support groups. If they find ears here, it's still gonna help the person's feelings.

You can't stop anyone from badmouthing though. Even the saints will have people talking behind them. Even your siblings do that to you. You just have to get used to it. Not find it offensive anymore.

My classmates referred to me as an addicted gambler during my early gambling days, which infuriated me, but as time passed, I just let it go and discovered more meaningful things to do with my life other than settling and spending my precious time arguing about some unimportant concerns. Finding things offensive doesn't really matter; it's simply frivolous talk; at this point in my life, all I worry about is preparing and eventually attaining the objectives I have set. People will always talk, and the more we try to enforce or prohibit the badmouthing, the more it will persist; this is typical, therefore I consider it a minor concern.

There are some people who try to offend others. If someone gets angry at that moment, those people will annoy him more. But those who can understand this matter deeply never show anger. They simply want to avoid the issue. There are also some gamblers who cannot easily identify themselves as addicted gamblers. When such accusations are brought against him, he will take the matter negatively. Above all it is better to take these things easily.

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Quote from: bittraffic on July 02, 2023, 12:56:49 PM

Quote from: maydna on July 02, 2023, 10:26:11 AM

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People like to talk about themselves and how they struggle. Kind of normal I think they share how they suffer and survive, its how they voice out their feelings and the willing listeners and more willing to listen if they also encounter the same like the support groups. If they find ears here, it's still gonna help the person's feelings.

You can't stop anyone from badmouthing though. Even the saints will have people talking behind them. Even your siblings do that to you. You just have to get used to it. Not find it offensive anymore.

Let's let them talk like that because we can't stop them either. The important thing is that we don't do as they say so that other people still won't believe it. And even though they believe, we also don't listen because this is our life, and as long as we don't do anything, we just let it go. It's better for us to live our own lives than to respond to what they say because we've wasted time being fuzzy, and they would be happy to continue what they were doing. And as you said, they may need a place to express their feelings by badmouthing other people, which satisfies them. If so, we help by letting it be.

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Quote from: maydna on July 02, 2023, 10:26:11 AM

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It's crucial to not let outside influences distort one's perception of reality, but it doesn't mean we can just shut out any criticism. It's a given that knowledge is developed via conversations, not lectures. To be clear, I am not advocating complete candor. A welcoming yet discriminating attitude is key. Try to win a chess game by ignoring your opponent's movements, and you'll soon find out that ignoring what doesn't fit our reality is futile.

The "do whatever we like" motto is great, but it's a little like telling a child at a candy shop to stuff his face as much as he wants as long as he doesn't get ill. Put in place a system of checks and balances. Last but not least, this is a wonderful message on aiding others. Yet if your goal is just to quiet critics, "saving face" may be more like "losing grace." True acts of compassion originate in one's heart, not one's pride.

We don't need to respond to what he said, especially if we are not gambling addicts or we are indeed an addict. We can take what they say for granted and can't stop them from talking like that. We can still be friendly to them or we can not care what they say. One day, perhaps, they will need us. We can show that we are not what they think at that moment. It might be hard for us to accept it the first time, but there's nothing wrong with trying not to listen to it.

And I like what you said: true compassion comes from one's heart, not pride. May we be included in those true compassionate people.

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Quote from: len01 on June 28, 2023, 01:47:17 PM

if there is a gambling addict who admits that he is addicted realistically the gambler is a little easier to be given advice to immediately go to treat his addiction to live a more comfortable life without gambling addiction. but it's not that easy sometimes you have to have a lot of support like family, friends and medicine to calm your mind. with some of this support it will certainly provide faster opportunities for gambling addicts to recover soon.

An addict admitting to an addiction is already on the path to recovery. Once the addict realizes that he’s hooked and addicted onto something and admits it to someone else, then I think that addict is open and perhaps ready to give up the addiction and strive for a turnaround in life.
And yes, it’s not an easy task for both the addict and his/her family. The addict would require a lot of care, support and a whole lot of understanding from family and friends but in a lot of cases, that required love, support and understanding isn’t there to aid the addict on the road to recovery and the addict ends up falling back to the addiction destroying whatever progress that has been achieved.

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Quote from: maydna on July 02, 2023, 10:26:11 AM

Quote from: Lorence.xD on July 02, 2023, 09:14:33 AM

Exactly, people always tend to say things on every detail on your life like your hobbies and that's a reality for everyone. That's why it's important to have a mindset that doesn't need to think of everyone's opinion since some of them are not even relevant and valid. If you're really enjoying something and it doesn't hurt anyone like your family, friends or girlfriend plus yourself like your physical and mental state. Then you're all good, no need to overthink about the addicted thing, if that's how you enjoy life then keep enjoying, we all have different business to mind.

They don't need to listen to other people's words, especially if those words don't match the reality that is happening to them. They just want to bring us down by trying to incite other people so that others believe that we really do it even though we don't do anything as they say. It's better for us to enjoy what we already have, and do whatever we like, and as long as it doesn't disturb and harm other people, we don't need to think about it. And if you can help other people, that would be even better because it will make other people not believe in people who want to bring us down or badmouth us even though it doesn't match the reality.

It's crucial to not let outside influences distort one's perception of reality, but it doesn't mean we can just shut out any criticism. It's a given that knowledge is developed via conversations, not lectures. To be clear, I am not advocating complete candor. A welcoming yet discriminating attitude is key. Try to win a chess game by ignoring your opponent's movements, and you'll soon find out that ignoring what doesn't fit our reality is futile.

The "do whatever we like" motto is great, but it's a little like telling a child at a candy shop to stuff his face as much as he wants as long as he doesn't get ill. Put in place a system of checks and balances. Last but not least, this is a wonderful message on aiding others. Yet if your goal is just to quiet critics, "saving face" may be more like "losing grace." True acts of compassion originate in one's heart, not one's pride.

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Quote from: Cantsay on June 18, 2023, 01:20:30 PM

If a stranger should notice my gambling activities and found out that I'm beginning to show signs of addiction, if they should tell me in a respectful and calm way I will simply thank them and start working on myself, but if they just approach my and start inform me in a rude way or perhaps insult me for engaging in gambling in the first place I will definitely be offended with it, that's very sure.
And just as you said, not everyone has the same level of tolerance so some might be able to tolerate it while others like will not be.

Some persons are so uncultured that they don't know how to talk, they find it at liberty to express whatever comes into their mind without weighing or observing the mood of who they're expressing such statements to how it will affect them.
Because you are close to a person doesn't give you the right to express yourself as you wish it doesn't show respect to the relationship. So having someone that expresses himself with respect concerning on how they feel about our attitude is a thing to appreciate.

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Quote from: Josefjix on July 02, 2023, 02:40:20 PM

Quote from: bittraffic on July 02, 2023, 12:56:49 PM

People like to talk about themselves and how they struggle. Kind of normal I think they share how they suffer and survive, its how they voice out their feelings and the willing listeners and more willing to listen if they also encounter the same like the support groups. If they find ears here, it's still gonna help the person's feelings.

You can't stop anyone from badmouthing though. Even the saints will have people talking behind them. Even your siblings do that to you. You just have to get used to it. Not find it offensive anymore.

My classmates referred to me as an addicted gambler during my early gambling days, which infuriated me, but as time passed, I just let it go and discovered more meaningful things to do with my life other than settling and spending my precious time arguing about some unimportant concerns. Finding things offensive doesn't really matter; it's simply frivolous talk; at this point in my life, all I worry about is preparing and eventually attaining the objectives I have set. People will always talk, and the more we try to enforce or prohibit the badmouthing, the more it will persist; this is typical, therefore I consider it a minor concern.

A wise and matured take in such a kind of situation, I like the way you describe how to enforce things with actions, minding their business will only provoke you to continue arguing but if you let them feel that you don't care about what's their opinions about you, then they will start to realize, the more you engage yourself to them the more they will bring things against you.

Not minding them and just keep going with your set plans will kill those issues about you.

Handling situation depends with how a person reacts. Let them talk and just allow you to keep moving forward.

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Quote from: bittraffic on July 02, 2023, 12:56:49 PM

People like to talk about themselves and how they struggle. Kind of normal I think they share how they suffer and survive, its how they voice out their feelings and the willing listeners and more willing to listen if they also encounter the same like the support groups. If they find ears here, it's still gonna help the person's feelings.

You can't stop anyone from badmouthing though. Even the saints will have people talking behind them. Even your siblings do that to you. You just have to get used to it. Not find it offensive anymore.

My classmates referred to me as an addicted gambler during my early gambling days, which infuriated me, but as time passed, I just let it go and discovered more meaningful things to do with my life other than settling and spending my precious time arguing about some unimportant concerns. Finding things offensive doesn't really matter; it's simply frivolous talk; at this point in my life, all I worry about is preparing and eventually attaining the objectives I have set. People will always talk, and the more we try to enforce or prohibit the badmouthing, the more it will persist; this is typical, therefore I consider it a minor concern.

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Quote from: maydna on July 02, 2023, 10:26:11 AM

Quote from: Lorence.xD on July 02, 2023, 09:14:33 AM

Exactly, people always tend to say things on every detail on your life like your hobbies and that's a reality for everyone. That's why it's important to have a mindset that doesn't need to think of everyone's opinion since some of them are not even relevant and valid. If you're really enjoying something and it doesn't hurt anyone like your family, friends or girlfriend plus yourself like your physical and mental state. Then you're all good, no need to overthink about the addicted thing, if that's how you enjoy life then keep enjoying, we all have different business to mind.

They don't need to listen to other people's words, especially if those words don't match the reality that is happening to them. They just want to bring us down by trying to incite other people so that others believe that we really do it even though we don't do anything as they say. It's better for us to enjoy what we already have, and do whatever we like, and as long as it doesn't disturb and harm other people, we don't need to think about it. And if you can help other people, that would be even better because it will make other people not believe in people who want to bring us down or badmouth us even though it doesn't match the reality.

People like to talk about themselves and how they struggle. Kind of normal I think they share how they suffer and survive, its how they voice out their feelings and the willing listeners and more willing to listen if they also encounter the same like the support groups. If they find ears here, it's still gonna help the person's feelings.

You can't stop anyone from badmouthing though. Even the saints will have people talking behind them. Even your siblings do that to you. You just have to get used to it. Not find it offensive anymore.

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Quote from: Lorence.xD on July 02, 2023, 09:14:33 AM

Exactly, people always tend to say things on every detail on your life like your hobbies and that's a reality for everyone. That's why it's important to have a mindset that doesn't need to think of everyone's opinion since some of them are not even relevant and valid. If you're really enjoying something and it doesn't hurt anyone like your family, friends or girlfriend plus yourself like your physical and mental state. Then you're all good, no need to overthink about the addicted thing, if that's how you enjoy life then keep enjoying, we all have different business to mind.

They don't need to listen to other people's words, especially if those words don't match the reality that is happening to them. They just want to bring us down by trying to incite other people so that others believe that we really do it even though we don't do anything as they say. It's better for us to enjoy what we already have, and do whatever we like, and as long as it doesn't disturb and harm other people, we don't need to think about it. And if you can help other people, that would be even better because it will make other people not believe in people who want to bring us down or badmouth us even though it doesn't match the reality.

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