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if you tell a gambler who you think is addicted that he or she is an addict, and he or she picks an offense, do not blame such a gambler because it's very possible he or she is yet to realize he's or she's addicted, they can only discover when they decide to stop gambling but realize they are finding it difficult to stop.

Perfectly understandable. A whole lot of addicts wouldn’t actually realize they’re addicts unless being told to their face or perhaps when they’re trying to stop the habit and finds out that it’s not as easy to stop as it initially was when first starting out.
I can understand when an addicted gambler takes offense when being told to his face that he’s addicted. Denial is a phase when the person doesn’t believe he/she can get addicted and denial in itself could hinder any thoughts of trying to get better cause in the mind, there is no addiction to get out of.
But most addicted gamblers will not stop even though they already know they are addicted to gambling. They can easily deny it and show proof that they are not a gambling addict. But some gamblers who are addicted to gambling and find out that they are gambling addicts will be offended and even angry at people who say that. They would probably say it was none of their business, knowing he was a gambling addict. It is very difficult to tell someone affected by gambling addiction, but if it is a family member, we must warn him and ask him to heal himself.

Any form of addiction would face a denial stage where they would neglect listening to opinions and observations by the people around them. Most of them are aware that they are spending too much time in gambling but they couldn't notice personally that they are really into gambling addiction. They will surely feel offended and will deny other people's observations as their defense but I don't think telling or informing them that they are already addicted to gambling would stop them from excessive playing.
To occasional gamblers, it will surely hurt their feelings unless it will be delivered in a good manner where they could also explain their side and defend themselves. Of course, most of us are protecting our image and being referred as a gambling addict is a heavy thing for us to bear.
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if you tell a gambler who you think is addicted that he or she is an addict, and he or she picks an offense, do not blame such a gambler because it's very possible he or she is yet to realize he's or she's addicted, they can only discover when they decide to stop gambling but realize they are finding it difficult to stop.

Perfectly understandable. A whole lot of addicts wouldn’t actually realize they’re addicts unless being told to their face or perhaps when they’re trying to stop the habit and finds out that it’s not as easy to stop as it initially was when first starting out.
I can understand when an addicted gambler takes offense when being told to his face that he’s addicted. Denial is a phase when the person doesn’t believe he/she can get addicted and denial in itself could hinder any thoughts of trying to get better cause in the mind, there is no addiction to get out of.
But most addicted gamblers will not stop even though they already know they are addicted to gambling. They can easily deny it and show proof that they are not a gambling addict. But some gamblers who are addicted to gambling and find out that they are gambling addicts will be offended and even angry at people who say that. They would probably say it was none of their business, knowing he was a gambling addict. It is very difficult to tell someone affected by gambling addiction, but if it is a family member, we must warn him and ask him to heal himself.
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Well, this is what you really have to feel.
As long as we don't feel disturbed by the gambling activities we are doing, and don't disturb other people because we gamble with our own money, why do we feel we have to really care about what other people say.
We just have to focus on ourselves regardless of whether we are addicts or not as long as we can still share finances well and as long as we don't feel like we are doing things that are out of bounds then it doesn't matter because we can do whatever we like as long as it is in accordance with the portion regardless of whether it's addiction or not as long as it's not burdensome then it still doesn't matter.
Even though addicts are actually at greater risk, as long as we know the rules that we treat ourselves and as long as we comply with these rules, it's not a big problem.
I agree with you and indeed when we gamble using our own money and don't disturb other people, then there is no need to care about other people's bad words.
But if you are already addicted, there are some things that can harm other people, such as borrowing money and also committing crimes to be able to continue gambling.
So it's natural that many people look bad at gambling activities and often say words that are inappropriate for us as gamblers.

As long as we can be responsible and never disturb other people, we can be said to be wise gamblers.
As I did, as long as it doesn't disturb other people, it doesn't matter, but when it comes to borrowing, it means it has become a disturbance to other people because of gambling addiction.
the conditions are slightly different when talking about this because indeed this will slightly damage our self-image. I don't have a problem with the views of other people who say I am a gambling addict or not because I have never done anything that harmed other people, be it in borrowing money or doing other things that made them lose so I don't feel there is a problem with that because I feel myself what kind of gambling and that is what really matters here. It would be a different story if indeed we gambled and were considered addicts and still harmed other people.
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Well, this is what you really have to feel.
As long as we don't feel disturbed by the gambling activities we are doing, and don't disturb other people because we gamble with our own money, why do we feel we have to really care about what other people say.
We just have to focus on ourselves regardless of whether we are addicts or not as long as we can still share finances well and as long as we don't feel like we are doing things that are out of bounds then it doesn't matter because we can do whatever we like as long as it is in accordance with the portion regardless of whether it's addiction or not as long as it's not burdensome then it still doesn't matter.
Even though addicts are actually at greater risk, as long as we know the rules that we treat ourselves and as long as we comply with these rules, it's not a big problem.
I agree with you and indeed when we gamble using our own money and don't disturb other people, then there is no need to care about other people's bad words.
But if you are already addicted, there are some things that can harm other people, such as borrowing money and also committing crimes to be able to continue gambling.
So it's natural that many people look bad at gambling activities and often say words that are inappropriate for us as gamblers.

As long as we can be responsible and never disturb other people, we can be said to be wise gamblers.
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Perfectly understandable. A whole lot of addicts wouldn’t actually realize they’re addicts unless being told to their face or perhaps when they’re trying to stop the habit and finds out that it’s not as easy to stop as it initially was when first starting out.
I can understand when an addicted gambler takes offense when being told to his face that he’s addicted. Denial is a phase when the person doesn’t believe he/she can get addicted and denial in itself could hinder any thoughts of trying to get better cause in the mind, there is no addiction to get out of.
It's not that easy to try to tell gambling addicts about their addiction but as long as we slowly give addicts something to understand, I think they will soon recognize that they are gambling addicts.
indeed in telling a friend or family who is addicted sometimes we have to be strong without having to be offended because a gambling addict will have high emotions when told about his addiction he will deny and scold us to keep silent because he feels the most right.
but as long as we patiently tell them casually and calmly I'm sure they will soon realize and have the desire to quit.
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if you tell a gambler who you think is addicted that he or she is an addict, and he or she picks an offense, do not blame such a gambler because it's very possible he or she is yet to realize he's or she's addicted, they can only discover when they decide to stop gambling but realize they are finding it difficult to stop.

Perfectly understandable. A whole lot of addicts wouldn’t actually realize they’re addicts unless being told to their face or perhaps when they’re trying to stop the habit and finds out that it’s not as easy to stop as it initially was when first starting out.
I can understand when an addicted gambler takes offense when being told to his face that he’s addicted. Denial is a phase when the person doesn’t believe he/she can get addicted and denial in itself could hinder any thoughts of trying to get better cause in the mind, there is no addiction to get out of.

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As long as I don't harm others, I never cared what other people thought of me. Whether or not someone is addicted to gambling depends on how other people judge it, personally the person never realizes he is addicted or not. Gamblers have their own motivations so they never get tired of playing gambling, some are just having fun after working hard, want to get the money they have spent and there are also those who want to get even more wins.
The awareness of each individual has a different level, some are sensitive to the conditions experienced after visiting too many gambling places or as a result of hearing too much from what other people say.
Yes, I agree with you, as long as we don't harm other people, why should we listen to what they have to say? in this context those who say something that is not pleasant to hear or something like that. It's different if they advise me, even if I'm not addicted, then I will be happy to listen to their advice.
If I'm addicted and out of control maybe I'll be resentful and angry when I'm counseled, similarly we'll get angry when people say things we don't want to hear about us.
And maybe if I feel that I can't control myself, I will ask for help from the people closest to me and also those I can trust, so that they always remind me when I am out of control in gambling. That is something that will be very helpful in my opinion, because they will not hesitate to remind us, and we will definitely accept it, because when they start talking something wrong might have happened to me.
The most important thing in this condition is that we only have to focus on ourselves because if we only refer to other people's words we will only feel more burdened by it.
Regardless of other people's views whether we are a gambling addict or not, that is their view, we don't have to prove anything with this because it will only add to the burden they accuse us of.
The most important thing is that we don't harm other people, as for gambling activities, we feel that as long as we don't mind spending money and don't have problems with the closest people or partners just because gambling is enough.
Well, this is what you really have to feel.
As long as we don't feel disturbed by the gambling activities we are doing, and don't disturb other people because we gamble with our own money, why do we feel we have to really care about what other people say.
We just have to focus on ourselves regardless of whether we are addicts or not as long as we can still share finances well and as long as we don't feel like we are doing things that are out of bounds then it doesn't matter because we can do whatever we like as long as it is in accordance with the portion regardless of whether it's addiction or not as long as it's not burdensome then it still doesn't matter.
Even though addicts are actually at greater risk, as long as we know the rules that we treat ourselves and as long as we comply with these rules, it's not a big problem.
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Addiction is a common thing, and people take it hard. When you have the mind to accept that you're addicted, then you're willing to change. This is the truth behind addiction. With our gambling activities we're well aware of our activities, but we hesitate to accept that we're addicted. Indicating my gambling activities different from a common gambler and say you're addicted, then surely I'll accept it.
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Many people find it difficult to accept who they are and the bad habits that they have, accepting a habit is the first step that will determine if any help offered to you will work. As a gambler, will you find it offensive if you are referred to as a gambling addict? will you easily accept it or try to give excuses like some other people do, saying that they are not addicted to gambling when the signs are clearly there. Do you think identifying as an addicted gambler will make people stereotype you. The answer is different for every gambler here.
This is really true no one wants to accept the bad character they are attributed to, even a thief who clearly sees that he is a thief will still deny it. Addicted gamblers are worse they also deny when people refer to them as an addict and they easily get annoyed when they are being called an addict. I have seen someone fight his friends for calling him an addicted gambler. Being addicted is not a good thing but equally its not that bad when you can accept it and work towards reducing your addiction for it, it may be difficult but not impossible.
I won’t like being called an addict but I won’t find it offensive either. If i am one i would easily accept who i am and work towards reducing it because i will be ashamed when people call me an addict.
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Many people find it difficult to accept who they are and the bad habits that they have, accepting a habit is the first step that will determine if any help offered to you will work. As a gambler, will you find it offensive if you are referred to as a gambling addict? will you easily accept it or try to give excuses like some other people do, saying that they are not addicted to gambling when the signs are clearly there. Do you think identifying as an addicted gambler will make people stereotype you. The answer is different for every gambler here.
I don’t think being addicted to gambling will make me offend anymore. So what? As long as you are not causing someone’s life into jeopardy then being addicted to gambling will never be a big issue. And the fact that it’s my own funds that I’ve been spending the whole time while gambling so my addiction should never be an issue at all. However, for some beginners who easily fall into gambling addiction might be hard for them to admit that they are gambling addicts, and would want to deny it as much as they can.
This can come in different ways that can make us made if we think that we can handle the derogatory statement when we are called an addictive gambler. It is very important for us to know that it is not a sin they tag us as an addicted gambler, maybe based on what they saw and the way we gamble. Some gamblers would never mind if they called an addictive gamble and they may be happy about it for people to notice them as someone that loves gambling always.
A profitable gambler might never bothered if called an addicted gambler but someone that always make loses might see it as an insult.
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I think if someone is truly addicted to gambling and then takes offense when being referred to as an addicted gambler, that person will likely not change any time soon.
A man that’s a gambling addict would only truly change for the better if he first realizes and tells himself the truth that he’s addicted and then makes up his mind to quit the addiction. Only then would change occur.

Addiction creeps in slowly and most times unnoticed. And I think if you find it offensive when referred to as an addictive gambler, then most likely you’re slowly creeping into addiction if not there yet.
Not just most times unnoticed, every addiction actually creeps into their victims live unnoticed, and most people never even get to know that they are addicted until they try to stop that thing and realize they cant just stop doing it, and if you noticed, I didn't mention this is peculiar to gambling alone, this is actually the same for every form of addiction, so to be honest with you, if you tell a gambler who you think is addicted that he or she is an addict, and he or she picks an offense, do not blame such a gambler because it's very possible he or she is yet to realize he's or she's addicted, they can only discover when they decide to stop gambling but realize they are finding it difficult to stop.
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Addiction creeps in slowly and most times unnoticed. And I think if you find it offensive when referred to as an addictive gambler, then most likely you’re slowly creeping into addiction if not there yet.
^ Possibly but there others will probably recognize the signs and accept the term. Accepting the label of being a gambling addict can be an important step toward seeking help, support, and treatment. It allows individuals to confront their behavior, understand the impact it has on their lives, and take steps toward recovery. I know this because I have a friend who suffered from addiction and wants to change himself alone, the best thing is to have to take under control yourself.
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I think if someone is truly addicted to gambling and then takes offense when being referred to as an addicted gambler, that person will likely not change any time soon.
A man that’s a gambling addict would only truly change for the better if he first realizes and tells himself the truth that he’s addicted and then makes up his mind to quit the addiction. Only then would change occur.

Addiction creeps in slowly and most times unnoticed. And I think if you find it offensive when referred to as an addictive gambler, then most likely you’re slowly creeping into addiction if not there yet.
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MAaaN...!! CUT THAT STUPID SHIT

Would be worse if there's no professional diagnosis 'coz you'd be stereotyped or labeled in that case and there's no one who deserve such kind of treatment. Addiction is not limited to symptoms alone, this is why we have professionals in this field. There'll be tests to be conducted in order to determine a condition.

Is this some sort of psychological test?
because I just found out if there is a special test for some addicts before giving an official diagnosis that they are gambling addicts.
Addiction is not limited to symptoms, there are various kinds of symptoms that will arise but that will not prove that they are completely addicts.
Gambling addiction is a mental disorder that will have a negative effect on a person's lifestyle.
1. They tend to be unable to control the urge to gamble.
2. Prioritizing playing gambling over interest in activities or other activities.
3. A person continues to gamble despite the obvious negative consequences.
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Beginners will not be familiar with the word gambling addict so they are easily offended if they find out that someone has told them, they will argue and deny the problem, they will even clarify that they are not in the position of the gambling addiction circle, but when they find out their gambling activity has nothing to do with people otherwise they will not be easily offended and ignore other people's negative comments.

We can see it from another perspective and even discuss it from different perspectives. Being offended is basically a common thing, which can be experienced by us at any time, including in this case gambling addicts. for example, a person will be offended if he is judged in front of his family that he is a gambling addict. or, another example, someone is not aware that they have become part of the gambler. then, someone said that you have become an addict. as a result, there will be various reactions depending on each individual. one example we can take, as you say, they will react by denying that they are not gambling addicts. within reason, just doing it for fun. so the point is, being offended is normal. moreover, a person was in a situation to defend himself.

Not admitting addiction does not mean they are not addicted.
Basically everyone who comes back for the second time at gambling has been declared an addict, but definitely in a different category. The more often they come back, the stronger the addiction, it's just that they don't realize that they are addicted. But I don't think they need to admit their addiction, but maybe they need to be aware of it so they don't loss of control.

Yep, in fact, there are many of us who even deny it, even though we consciously know that we have become part of a gambling addict. referring to what you said, the more we come back, the stronger our indication of addiction. so, automatically what you say refers to ourselves. the question is, is it appropriate for us to say that we are part of the addict himself, even though with the excuse of doing it just for fun. for me, it's not a problem at all. because, I know very well what I do with my gambling activities. anyway, there are good points from what you say. we need to realize, so as not to get out of control.
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As long as I don't harm others, I never cared what other people thought of me. Whether or not someone is addicted to gambling depends on how other people judge it, personally the person never realizes he is addicted or not. Gamblers have their own motivations so they never get tired of playing gambling, some are just having fun after working hard, want to get the money they have spent and there are also those who want to get even more wins.
The awareness of each individual has a different level, some are sensitive to the conditions experienced after visiting too many gambling places or as a result of hearing too much from what other people say.
Yes, I agree with you, as long as we don't harm other people, why should we listen to what they have to say? in this context those who say something that is not pleasant to hear or something like that. It's different if they advise me, even if I'm not addicted, then I will be happy to listen to their advice.
If I'm addicted and out of control maybe I'll be resentful and angry when I'm counseled, similarly we'll get angry when people say things we don't want to hear about us.
And maybe if I feel that I can't control myself, I will ask for help from the people closest to me and also those I can trust, so that they always remind me when I am out of control in gambling. That is something that will be very helpful in my opinion, because they will not hesitate to remind us, and we will definitely accept it, because when they start talking something wrong might have happened to me.
The most important thing in this condition is that we only have to focus on ourselves because if we only refer to other people's words we will only feel more burdened by it.
Regardless of other people's views whether we are a gambling addict or not, that is their view, we don't have to prove anything with this because it will only add to the burden they accuse us of.
The most important thing is that we don't harm other people, as for gambling activities, we feel that as long as we don't mind spending money and don't have problems with the closest people or partners just because gambling is enough.
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Many people find it difficult to accept who they are and the bad habits that they have, accepting a habit is the first step that will determine if any help offered to you will work. As a gambler, will you find it offensive if you are referred to as a gambling addict? will you easily accept it or try to give excuses like some other people do, saying that they are not addicted to gambling when the signs are clearly there. Do you think identifying as an addicted gambler will make people stereotype you. The answer is different for every gambler here.
The moment a gambling addict identifies as a addict, he is half way to recovery. But not wanting to be called a wanted a gambling addict is living in denial of the severity of the addiction. In gambling anonymous meetings you would hear something that goes like this, "Hello, my name is Tiger and I a gambling addict."
There are over  one billion gamblers worldwide, being called a gambler going to make me get offended but being called an addict will get me offended because I would take it as an insult from a lay person.
Grin not only you my friend, I think most gambling just like denying the fact that they are way pass their limit when it comes to gambling and tend to live in self denial like you said and would definitely take it as serious if called an addict. Gambling in the first place is very hard to control if you are not in the right mind and when you see it as a means of making huge profits and this is exactly what turns most naive gamblers to addicts.
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I don’t think being addicted to gambling will make me offend anymore. So what? As long as you are not causing someone’s life into jeopardy then being addicted to gambling will never be a big issue. And the fact that it’s my own funds that I’ve been spending the whole time while gambling so my addiction should never be an issue at all.
We all have our differences, I don't swallowed abusive words, I would bounce back instantly when my reputation is insulted. Giving people names without their permission will only lead to disagreements and fights. Gambling is an authorized source of income for many individuals; nonetheless, I despise gambling because it is essentially a waste of our money. Of course, I would be offended if someone referred to me as a gambling addict, because that is not a good way to address someone. I would probably ignore anyone who referred to me as an addict, even if I am convinced that I am not one.

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Many people find it difficult to accept who they are and the bad habits that they have, accepting a habit is the first step that will determine if any help offered to you will work. As a gambler, will you find it offensive if you are referred to as a gambling addict? will you easily accept it or try to give excuses like some other people do, saying that they are not addicted to gambling when the signs are clearly there. Do you think identifying as an addicted gambler will make people stereotype you. The answer is different for every gambler here.
I don’t think being addicted to gambling will make me offend anymore. So what? As long as you are not causing someone’s life into jeopardy then being addicted to gambling will never be a big issue. And the fact that it’s my own funds that I’ve been spending the whole time while gambling so my addiction should never be an issue at all. However, for some beginners who easily fall into gambling addiction might be hard for them to admit that they are gambling addicts, and would want to deny it as much as they can.
You are wright in some way but if your addiction is a very serious one you will end up affecting other people's life no matter how hard you may try to prevent it from happening because you might be done with your funds and decide to borrow from a friend in which you will then loose all the funds and then when its time to pay back you start having issue with your friend over the borrowed money even a veteran in gambling can be affected badly so far as its an addiction case.
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I don’t think being addicted to gambling will make me offend anymore. So what? As long as you are not causing someone’s life into jeopardy then being addicted to gambling will never be a big issue. And the fact that it’s my own funds that I’ve been spending the whole time while gambling so my addiction should never be an issue at all.
You might be addicted to gambling and your addiction might not have any effect on other people’s life, but things that some  addicted gamblers do make people in the society thing gambling is really a bad thing, some addicted gamblers do things that affect the society and some of them do things that affect themselves and their family members. Some of them do illegal things in the society just to make money which they will gamble with, some addicted gamblers steal from people in the society just to make money and gambling which it which is affecting people in the society. Some gamblers sell their houses just to make money to gamble which at the end after losing, they will make their family members homeless, and some will sell some valuable properties in the house which is going to affect the family member’s, that’s why generally I see addiction as bad thing. You might not be affecting anyone in any way, but it those not mean others are not affecting.
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