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legendary
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January 27, 2020, 07:54:44 AM
#89
If I am a Mexican will try my luck by buying more tickets that I can

25$ is still some money and it's a raffle, so there's also the (quite big) chance you lose all that money.
Imho "buying more tickets that I can" is not the way to go. Like in every type of gambling, moderation is the key: don't force your luck by putting in more money than you afford to lose.
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January 27, 2020, 07:50:27 AM
#88

I don't think that this was mentioned, but I think that the odds of winning are much better than the typical lottery.

If I am a Mexican will try my luck by buying more tickets that I can, $130 million worth of airplane is a huge jackpot, I can sell it half or might even do a lottery of my own, I'm sure those who participate in the first lottery will bet more in trying to win this Presidential airplane, but whoever win this airplane will become a big celebrity because this is the first time a guy won a Presidential airplane through lottery.
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January 27, 2020, 02:37:28 AM
#87
I have seen this news in a well-known media, about the plans of AMLO, Mexico who want to sell the presidential jet by raffle (lottery), in bandrol at a price of US $ 25/sheet, The weirdest thing to me is that this lottery has been auctioned for almost a year, but no one has been interested in buying the plane yet.

This is a strange event for me, even though Mexico is a country that has a successful businessman.

When this news was released many people in Mexico did not believe it, alias the president was joking, but in reality this is true for those who won the Boeing 787 Dreamliner can take it home.

The maintenance and parking for such an airplane costs a small fortune. It's all proportional with the size and age. I think that this is the reason business men didn't hurry buy it. They can get cheaper, newer, smaller aircraft.
If the raffle is a success, they get more money than a sale or auction would have got. And the new owner will have to sell it too (because of the maintenance), but this time he can afford to sell it very cheap.

I don't think that this was mentioned, but I think that the odds of winning are much better than the typical lottery.
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January 27, 2020, 01:05:20 AM
#86
The weirdest thing to me is that this lottery has been auctioned for almost a year, but no one has been interested in buying the plane yet.
i think what you mean by that highlighted word is 'PLANE" and not lottery mate?but yeah it has been year when it was first auctioned and been offered to US president Trump or maybe other prominent people also but denied to find buyer.i think the price is too high or the plane is too old for them ,and instead of buying that plane they would prefer buying brand new.
This is a strange event for me, even though Mexico is a country that has a successful businessman.
we don't know whats the original plan of MExican president here ,that is why he is selling the service or he might have plan buying newer model.
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I think because it hasn't been won for a year, this lottery is, perhaps, in terms of very high operating costs for aircraft, parking, etc.
spending more money when the plane is sent home.
this will be the Biggest gambling occasion of the year if this 6million tickets will be sold out costing 150million dollars,huge amount perhaps.
legendary
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January 27, 2020, 12:28:40 AM
#85
I have seen this news in a well-known media, about the plans of AMLO, Mexico who want to sell the presidential jet by raffle (lottery), in bandrol at a price of US $ 25/sheet, The weirdest thing to me is that this lottery has been auctioned for almost a year, but no one has been interested in buying the plane yet.

This is a strange event for me, even though Mexico is a country that has a successful businessman.

When this news was released many people in Mexico did not believe it, alias the president was joking, but in reality this is true for those who won the Boeing 787 Dreamliner can take it home.

I think because it hasn't been won for a year, this lottery is, perhaps, in terms of very high operating costs for aircraft, parking, etc.
spending more money when the plane is sent home.
hero member
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January 26, 2020, 11:37:44 PM
#84
Mexico could raffle his presidential plane, the idea is to sell 6M tickets of $25 dollars each one, and the winner gets a presidential plane evaluated in $130 million.
This crazy idea is because the Mexican president wan to sell the plane to spend the money on other projects.
What do you think would you buy a ticket?
If people are purchasing the raffle then it is to help the president fund the project as no one will be able to resell without any prior experience in the field and it is not an easy job as the maintenance and other headaches that come with it is huge. They could have sold that through an auction where people will only bid if they are able to purchase it rather than giving away as a raffle. Either way i bet the raffle will be won by the someone close to the authorities and they are conducting this to get funds and that is what i think Cheesy.
sr. member
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January 26, 2020, 10:41:12 PM
#83
If we resell it to government, then surely government would not buy it back at 130 million (its real value) but at a far lesser price, let's say 110 million, so that's another 20 million dollars profit for government. Add to it that it can repeat the same to lottery again lol.

That's possible, but if the winner is an enterprising guy he can make a business out of it, he can rent to major airlines or he can set up his own airlines, I'm pretty sure the bank will lend him money to set up his business, with the plane as the collateral or he can resell it at 105 lower or even 20%.

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January 26, 2020, 09:40:42 PM
#82

The government probably made the ticket cheap and exaggerated the price of the plane to make the whole thing very hard to resist. 
I wonder if the story is true though. I expect people to be investigating the true worth of the plane, and whether selling it won't be that difficult

The government can make the ticket cheap and make it attractive so their people can interest in buying as much the ticket. They can announce in the local magazine or newspaper every day to attract more people to come.

Perhaps, some people will investigate, but for people who don't have much money, and don't think about winning the place, they will not buy the ticket because their life will be more important to use the money to buy the plane. If I thought, the presidential plane will be too expensive, and not all people who can buy that plane, and they must have a lot of money to buy that plane.

well we are talking about the winability from Lottery to raffle is the issue,in raffle there is much chances of winning than in Lottery.

and besides this will be depending on  luck so even if how many ticket you buy(not unless you buy all the ticket lol)so the chance of being a winner is for everyone who will be participating the game.

the question is how many ticket will be needing to be sold before they pursue in raffle?do they need to sell all the 6 million ticket?or will they allow smaller volume to start the raffle.

People who buy that ticket will be limited to some amount, and they cannot buy all of the tickets because the government will not let that happens. The government wants to see that it is fair so all of the people can buy the ticket with some number of tickets.

I guess they will sell all the 6 million tickets or perhaps, they will calculate how much money they can get from the tickets so they can close the buying time.
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January 26, 2020, 10:01:23 AM
#81
Lets do some math.

6M tickets x $25/ticket = $150M then thats already a 20M profit. Well thats how business works.

No one can stop you if you do sell out your assets/properties etc. No matter what the cause is.
Asking if i would buy a ticket? No. its better to save it up yet we do know on having out of 6M chances.
It's just like how the lottery works but winning a huge plane is the problem because it will require an own airport to park it. So, the best choice if you don't want to house it is to resell it since you can't make it run if you don't know how to fly it. Some rich people would want to buy those tickets I'm sure but I don't think some minorities will try to buy one.

If we resell it to government, then surely government would not buy it back at 130 million (its real value) but at a far lesser price, let's say 110 million, so that's another 20 million dollars profit for government. Add to it that it can repeat the same to lottery again lol.
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January 26, 2020, 09:53:56 AM
#80
this is more winnable than lottery itself because on raffle like this they only specific volume of tickets to sell in this case there are 6 million according to the statements so it means each ticket holders have only 6 million to compete when i Lottery there are i think billions of combinations?so the chance is much lower than winning this Plane.

The chances in the lottery are not much if we only buy less than 100 tickets, but that will depend on our luck. The ticket holders will be difficult to win the lottery because I think if the rich people want to buy the ticket, then people who buy a small number of tickets will not have a big chance to win. They can hope that they can win the plane, but after that, they need to think about how they are going to pay the services after 2 years for the free services for the plane.
well we are talking about the winability from Lottery to raffle is the issue,in raffle there is much chances of winning than in Lottery.

and besides this will be depending on  luck so even if how many ticket you buy(not unless you buy all the ticket lol)so the chance of being a winner is for everyone who will be participating the game.

the question is how many ticket will be needing to be sold before they pursue in raffle?do they need to sell all the 6 million ticket?or will they allow smaller volume to start the raffle.
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January 26, 2020, 09:46:49 AM
#79
Lets do some math.

6M tickets x $25/ticket = $150M then thats already a 20M profit. Well thats how business works.

No one can stop you if you do sell out your assets/properties etc. No matter what the cause is.
Asking if i would buy a ticket? No. its better to save it up yet we do know on having out of 6M chances.
It's just like how the lottery works but winning a huge plane is the problem because it will require an own airport to park it. So, the best choice if you don't want to house it is to resell it since you can't make it run if you don't know how to fly it. Some rich people would want to buy those tickets I'm sure but I don't think some minorities will try to buy one.
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January 26, 2020, 09:35:24 AM
#78
Holy fuck. Where would I keep it if I won lol.  It would be nice to have own private plane though then I can learn how to fly but am sure the fuel prices would suck my poop out so in a sense, it's more like a lottery since the winner would just sell the whole thing back to some organizations or something.
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January 26, 2020, 09:25:11 AM
#77
Even Im win that presidential plane if I purchased 1 entry for $25 I did not know how to drive a plane so I will sell it to others to earn money.

For sure many people buy ticket and spend a bunch of money to win that plane but the probability is very low but the more tickets that you buy purchase the more chance but don't expect to win because of the 6Million tickets total. I want to know in the future who's gonna win.

I am not sure about that because to have a plane, and they need to think about the hangar, the cost that the plane needed monthly, and else. If they don't have much money as a billionaire, it will be difficult to pay all of the costs, including the tax.

Besides that, the ticket cost is $25, and I think people would save their money for another thing than to buy the tickets. But that will be different for people who are addicted to gambling because they will try to buy the ticket and expect to win the plane.

The government probably made the ticket cheap and exaggerated the price of the plane to make the whole thing very hard to resist. 
I wonder if the story is true though. I expect people to be investigating the true worth of the plane, and whether selling it won't be that difficult
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January 26, 2020, 09:22:53 AM
#76
Mexico could raffle his presidential plane, the idea is to sell 6M tickets of $25 dollars each one, and the winner gets a presidential plane evaluated in $130 million.

This crazy idea is because the Mexican president wan to sell the plane to spend the money on other projects.

What do you think would you buy a ticket?

Sources:
https://robbreport.com/motors/aviation/mexico-may-raffle-off-presidential-plane-2893600/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/17/mexico-amlo-presidential-plane-raffle

Whoever will win this lottery will be in Mexico's history, the presidential airplane has historical value in every country not all common people can own one, better use this presidential airplane for business, because people love to ride in a presidential plane, it will not be called a presidential plane if it is not special.
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January 26, 2020, 02:19:59 AM
#75
Even Im win that presidential plane if I purchased 1 entry for $25 I did not know how to drive a plane so I will sell it to others to earn money.

For sure many people buy ticket and spend a bunch of money to win that plane but the probability is very low but the more tickets that you buy purchase the more chance but don't expect to win because of the 6Million tickets total. I want to know in the future who's gonna win.

I am not sure about that because to have a plane, and they need to think about the hangar, the cost that the plane needed monthly, and else. If they don't have much money as a billionaire, it will be difficult to pay all of the costs, including the tax.

Besides that, the ticket cost is $25, and I think people would save their money for another thing than to buy the tickets. But that will be different for people who are addicted to gambling because they will try to buy the ticket and expect to win the plane.
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January 26, 2020, 12:46:18 AM
#74
I'd like to win that Presidential plane but unfortunately, I'm not a Mexican, they are lucky to have something like this, imagine a Presidential airplane not every citizen of this world can own a Presidential airplane, I will set up a corporation to manage this and make it a highly commercial venture.
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January 26, 2020, 12:29:30 AM
#73
Even Im win that presidential plane if I purchased 1 entry for $25 I did not know how to drive a plane so I will sell it to others to earn money.

For sure many people buy ticket and spend a bunch of money to win that plane but the probability is very low but the more tickets that you buy purchase the more chance but don't expect to win because of the 6Million tickets total. I want to know in the future who's gonna win.
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January 25, 2020, 06:04:01 AM
#72
Mexico could raffle his presidential plane, the idea is to sell 6M tickets of $25 dollars each one, and the winner gets a presidential plane evaluated in $130 million.

This crazy idea is because the Mexican president wan to sell the plane to spend the money on other projects.

What do you think would you buy a ticket?

Sources:
https://robbreport.com/motors/aviation/mexico-may-raffle-off-presidential-plane-2893600/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/17/mexico-amlo-presidential-plane-raffle

I will definitely buy a ticket but only Mexican can buy a ticket, so if I am a Mexican I will get as much as I can so I can increase my chances of winning 130 million dollars is a lot of money for a $25 worth of ticket, I will make a partnership on an airlines to manage this presidential airplane with a 50/50 profit sharing, I'm pretty sure it's going to be a big hit because it has a historical background.
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January 25, 2020, 02:05:29 AM
#71
As per my understanding, this offer is only for the Mexico citizens ?
If this was available for my country, i would have defiantly spent the 25$ and who knows i could be the winner of this great presidential plane.

If I'm a Mexican I will definitely bet imagine $25 for a Presidential plane if you hit a jackpot, if I win this I could rent this to airplanes and I can travel on air free for lifetime, I'm sure Mexicans will be excited to be part of this lottery, I never read a Presidential plane going on a lottery.
I think this is the first.

Sometimes I feel this cannot be a true offer and just a Hoax or a joke. Do you think any government will take such step or make such an offer ,where you can laugh and make fun out of it. I would like to hear if this is a real offer ?  Hard to believe.
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January 24, 2020, 04:41:46 AM
#70
The chance of winning the plane is low but this is lottery and more than that so whomever will be the lucky guy, ready your airplane parking space. Even Rick Harrison wouldn't buy this plane if you go to their shop and sell this with the current value of that plane.
So, is someone here from Mexico already participated and tried their luck to buy even one ticket? this is for good cause so whether you wouldn't win, it is ok.
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