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Quote from: seoincorporation on January 21, 2020, 04:17:25 PM

What do you think would you buy a ticket?

No, as a normal citizen not being able to sell the plane to the price I want if I were to sell it is scary even with the free maintenance for two years sponsored by
the government. but I read on another article that the Mexican president is open for the presidential plane to be traded for "$130m worth of ambulances, scanners
and x-rays for public hospitals" or "sell it to a dozen businesses, who would each chip in $11m."

the article I read: https://www.ft.com/content/a82e1640-395d-11ea-a6d3-9a26f8c3cba4

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Quote from: Janation on January 21, 2020, 11:52:29 PM

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 21, 2020, 11:02:48 PM

Silly idea to be honest.

The first thing that will happen to this plane if won is to be resold. I am quite certain this is the path the winner will choose.

I don't think it is that silly, to be honest.

People would think that their president is selling one of his luxurious priveledges for the development of their country, that would be great, isn't it? Also, if the lottery tickets are also sold out, that would give them a profit of 20M. Resold? obviously, you will get a presidential plane for $25 which real price is at $130M, it might get sold at a maximum 50M to 100M, huge profit.

What I think is silly is not the initiative of the president to get away from luxurious lifestyle and instead use the money from it to build projects for his people. I am in favor of this decision by the president. This should be emulated by all presidents in the world especially those who are leading an impoverished country. They don't have the right to enjoy all kinds of luxury when their country is suffering in poverty.

What I think is a little silly is the fact that the millions who are joining the lottery will be winning a plane. That is not easy to handle, isn't it?

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on January 21, 2020, 05:13:42 PM

Lets do some math.

6M tickets x $25/ticket = $150M then thats already a 20M profit. Well thats how business works.

No one can stop you if you do sell out your assets/properties etc. No matter what the cause is.
Asking if i would buy a ticket? No. its better to save it up yet we do know on having out of 6M chances.

That's a super idea and i think it opens up a lot of ideas of gathering funds at a government level. By this way, the mexcian government can buy a new place and still get a 20M profit. That's a super idea provided we have 6M tickets sold. Any idea if all the tickets are not sold, will they still hold this contest or return the people's ticket ?

I do not think the lottery company will find it difficult to sell all tickets, If the event is promoted to the media, they will be very popular with local gamblers!!! Roll Eyes

Knowing that the population of Mexico exceeds 120 million people. Luck will be the influencing factor in the Grand Prix drawing Undecided

It still depends but seeing this is a Mexican presidential plane then theres no doubt that it would really be heavily known by the entire population.

Chances on sold out tickets? Highly. but we cant still be sure if mexicans would really be interested on owning but somewhat if we think of that reselling that plane once again
on winners hands would really be hard.

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Quote from: panganib999 on January 22, 2020, 11:28:33 AM

Quote from: FlightyPouch on January 22, 2020, 11:07:39 AM

Well, if you read the article, the government of Mexico needed the money so they are selling the plane. The money they will be getting will be used for the development in their country. As I said, it is not just for the chance of winning the plane but also a chance to help the country. Obviously you did not read the article the OP posted, the president will give the maintenance of the plane for year free. He also thought about those people that might win the plane and don't have the money when it comes to taking care of it. It is true that people can just hog all the lottery tickets but that is not worth it. Even if it is a plane, it is not worth it.

The other guy might be considering it in terms of a "selfish" kind of perspective. I mean, some people wouldn't know what to do with a plane tbh, and if it just sat there doing nothing, even if you got it for a few bucks, it'd still seem to be a waste right? And a year of maintenance, it ain't like you're gonna fly the plane a hundred times per year, so yea. If the Mexican Airport could accept a rent kind of thing with the winner though, it might be much more worth it/helpful.

They even consider the maintenance so I think they can also consider the release of it. If they have a problem like that, they can just sell that immediately. $10M to $20M, no problem since they got it at $25. Don't you think that that is a huge profit, right? And why would it be a waste? You got a plane for $25, that could be his fortune, we are all an investor here, think like one.

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Quote from: shoreno on January 22, 2020, 12:07:27 AM

i read that the 2 year service is free so i will use the plane for two year and then after that , i will dispose it for a much lower price so that i can easily find a buyer . the price is negotiable but that wont hurt me too much because it can for sure cost over a million dollar . a single million dollar will be enough for me to live for a long time

but that is all, if i win . im not expecting to win but i still give it a go and gamble some bucks for a ticket entry

Just be realistic here. Lets suppose you won a plane, what will you do ? No one knows how to fly it. You cannot keep it in your home. What would you do with it except selling it cheaply because no one will be buying it on actual price from you. All those who are thinking to invest 25$ in this lottery type scheme, should consider these things too.

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Quote from: Darker45 on January 22, 2020, 12:10:48 AM

I might also end up reselling it if I win. Or perhaps rent it. Either way, the possible winner of this lottery will most probably not own and use it. This is probably changing hands right after it is being turned over to the winner.

Since it wasn't sold in an auction, it will be difficult to resell it unless really offered it as cheap, too much lowered to its average market price. For $25, I don't mind selling it for cheap (still, that cheap price will be millions in value).

And I agree with you since the proceeds will be used in good deeds I might try my luck here for few bucks. I do play lottery here in my country on a regular basis which also the proceeds go into government needs so why should I skip that offer. Unfortunately, only limit to Mexican citizens so good luck to them.

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Seems like it's still being decided whether it is being sold or not? Seems like a nice idea for them to try though. It is going to help their country in the end, and it is a raffle, luck still plays out in the end. Too bad its only for Mexican residents though, which could be said to be a good and bad thing since no countries could take advantage of the raffle.

Quote from: FlightyPouch on January 22, 2020, 11:07:39 AM

Well, if you read the article, the government of Mexico needed the money so they are selling the plane. The money they will be getting will be used for the development in their country. As I said, it is not just for the chance of winning the plane but also a chance to help the country. Obviously you did not read the article the OP posted, the president will give the maintenance of the plane for year free. He also thought about those people that might win the plane and don't have the money when it comes to taking care of it. It is true that people can just hog all the lottery tickets but that is not worth it. Even if it is a plane, it is not worth it.

The other guy might be considering it in terms of a "selfish" kind of perspective. I mean, some people wouldn't know what to do with a plane tbh, and if it just sat there doing nothing, even if you got it for a few bucks, it'd still seem to be a waste right? And a year of maintenance, it ain't like you're gonna fly the plane a hundred times per year, so yea. If the Mexican Airport could accept a rent kind of thing with the winner though, it might be much more worth it/helpful.

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Quote from: Wexnident on January 22, 2020, 10:52:27 AM

It seems like a worthwhile investment, to spam tickets and hope for the best, but really. Who the hell would even hope to get a plane? I mean, its nice and all once you get it, a sense of satisfaction immediately hits you, but in the end, its a PLANE. Hell, if you get it, maintenance already takes up a lot of money, and if someone actually wanted to get it, they'd join the raffle instead, since they have the money to buy it from another party, so why bother doing that when you can guarantee a win by buying out the tickets right?

Well, if you read the article, the government of Mexico needed the money so they are selling the plane. The money they will be getting will be used for the development in their country. As I said, it is not just for the chance of winning the plane but also a chance to help the country. Obviously you did not read the article the OP posted, the president will give the maintenance of the plane for year free. He also thought about those people that might win the plane and don't have the money when it comes to taking care of it. It is true that people can just hog all the lottery tickets but that is not worth it. Even if it is a plane, it is not worth it.

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It seems like a worthwhile investment, to spam tickets and hope for the best, but really. Who the hell would even hope to get a plane? I mean, its nice and all once you get it, a sense of satisfaction immediately hits you, but in the end, its a PLANE. Hell, if you get it, maintenance already takes up a lot of money, and if someone actually wanted to get it, they'd join the raffle instead, since they have the money to buy it from another party, so why bother doing that when you can guarantee a win by buying out the tickets right?

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A lottery again has a slim chance that you will win but if the ticket is cheap I can spend what I can afford to buy tickets. If I where in Mexico? of course, I will try my luck with that opportunity given. Because probably who knows you will be given a chance to hit the jackpot and own t5hat plane. The problem is you can't fly it on your own because you dont have a landing base for your plane, I have doubt that it will probably sell to others if you can afford to maintain the expenses of a plane.

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I'm not good at math but imagine the small probability you have to win that presidential plane. I don't know why is has to be done that way when they can just sell it or what. Rather than selling tickets and who'll ever win it, gets it. It's those rich people who will also buy tickets for this one.
It's the government we are talking about and for sure they can sell it who wants to buy it rather than doing a sort of raffle. They can sell it to other countries.

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That is a pretty good idea from the govenment of mexico it would be really hard to sell a 2nd hand plane for 130m, that why the government is trying to do this lottery and atleast make some money back.
But for the people who enter this is going to be pretty bad, a normal person in Mexico what are they gonna do with such a plane?
You are not gonna sell it easily maybe far under the price it is worth, I guess if you can sell it for a few million it will be good.
But just think of the cost a airplane has, to just fly somewhere else it will cost a lot and a normal person in Mexico probably cant pay that.

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I would love to buy a ticket. I read the article and I think it is not that the government of Mexico is wanting to earn money from it, it is just that they needed it. It is not the chance of winning a luxurious presidential airplane but the chance to help the country in a small way. I think the lottery tickets will be sold out because of that.

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Quote from: BitcoinsGreat on January 22, 2020, 08:23:37 AM

Quote from: carlfebz2 on January 21, 2020, 05:13:42 PM

Lets do some math.

6M tickets x $25/ticket = $150M then thats already a 20M profit. Well thats how business works.

No one can stop you if you do sell out your assets/properties etc. No matter what the cause is.
Asking if i would buy a ticket? No. its better to save it up yet we do know on having out of 6M chances.

That's a super idea and i think it opens up a lot of ideas of gathering funds at a government level. By this way, the mexcian government can buy a new place and still get a 20M profit. That's a super idea provided we have 6M tickets sold. Any idea if all the tickets are not sold, will they still hold this contest or return the people's ticket ?

I do not think the lottery company will find it difficult to sell all tickets, If the event is promoted to the media, they will be very popular with local gamblers!!! Roll Eyes

Knowing that the population of Mexico exceeds 120 million people. Luck will be the influencing factor in the Grand Prix drawing Undecided

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Quote from: virasog on January 22, 2020, 08:18:33 AM

As per my understanding, this offer is only for the Mexico citizens ?
If this was available for my country, i would have defiantly spent the 25$ and who knows i could be the winner of this great presidential plane.

If I'm a Mexican I will definitely bet imagine $25 for a Presidential plane if you hit a jackpot, if I win this I could rent this to airplanes and I can travel on air free for lifetime, I'm sure Mexicans will be excited to be part of this lottery, I never read a Presidential plane going on a lottery.
I think this is the first.

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on January 21, 2020, 05:13:42 PM

Lets do some math.

6M tickets x $25/ticket = $150M then thats already a 20M profit. Well thats how business works.

No one can stop you if you do sell out your assets/properties etc. No matter what the cause is.
Asking if i would buy a ticket? No. its better to save it up yet we do know on having out of 6M chances.

That's a super idea and i think it opens up a lot of ideas of gathering funds at a government level. By this way, the mexcian government can buy a new place and still get a 20M profit. That's a super idea provided we have 6M tickets sold. Any idea if all the tickets are not sold, will they still hold this contest or return the people's ticket ?

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Quote from: seoincorporation on January 21, 2020, 04:17:25 PM

Mexico could raffle his presidential plane, the idea is to sell 6M tickets of $25 dollars each one, and the winner gets a presidential plane evaluated in $130 million.

This crazy idea is because the Mexican president wan to sell the plane to spend the money on other projects.

What do you think would you buy a ticket?

Sources:
https://robbreport.com/motors/aviation/mexico-may-raffle-off-presidential-plane-2893600/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/17/mexico-amlo-presidential-plane-raffle

As per my understanding, this offer is only for the Mexico citizens ?
If this was available for my country, i would have defiantly spent the 25$ and who knows i could be the winner of this great presidential plane.

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Quote from: leea-1334 on January 22, 2020, 05:58:43 AM

$25 sounds like a lot of money! I mean,,, I do not know Mexico very well but I am sure they earn like we do in Asia,,, so for me $25 is a really big amount of money. And with all the corruption there would I dare to buy a ticket knowing probably someone already knows he is the winner?

i think mexico is more richer than on most asian countries so 25 usd with them will look cheap but for us who are minimum earner 25 usd is now a large amount and we will think twice if we will risk this amount for a ticket . but i dont know if their govt is corrupt or not , i still do a research then before i decide to join if ever i have a spare 25 usd . presidential plane sounds like promising and too good to be true to me , so im still skeptical with this .

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Quote from: sweetbet on January 21, 2020, 04:24:28 PM

Even if I won it, where would I get the money to house it, maintain it, fly it, etc? I guess that I can always re-sell it :-)

The plan is really good, as the ticket money is spend on other projects. The lucky one gets it, because a large number of people will try to buy tickets and examine the luck. If a common joe wins, then the only possibility is to resell the plane or else need to make tie up with some other flight operating firms. Instantly a common joe can't easily make arrangements to park an airplane.

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$25 sounds like a lot of money! I mean,,, I do not know Mexico very well but I am sure they earn like we do in Asia,,, so for me $25 is a really big amount of money. And with all the corruption there would I dare to buy a ticket knowing probably someone already knows he is the winner?

$130 million plane probably sells for a few million though so I guess it is a lot of money!

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