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legendary
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February 07, 2020, 01:56:31 PM
Ok, today we have a huge update about the topic. The Mexican president decides to make for this a reality or kind of...

To explain this i will talk in Mexican Pesos, so, remember 1 dollar = 20 pesos.

Today AMLO (Mexican President) decide to make raffle and he doit public, but he changes the rules of the game:


As you can see in the ticker, there will be 100 winners of $20,000,000 pesos. And there will be a total of 6,000,000 tickets $500 each ticket.

So, the total amount to get from this raffle is $3,000,000,000 Pesos, $2B will be to pay the 100 winners, and the other $1B will be for the plain maintenance in the next 2 years, hospital equipment and other stuff.

No one will win a presidential plane, only the value of the plain... For me, this sounds like a big scam. What do you think guys?
legendary
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February 07, 2020, 12:06:06 AM
The best thing that people can do if they win that plane is selling back to the government, but they cannot sell it as a high price because if they sell it too high, the government won't try to buy that plane.
Even me, if I will have it or won it, I would rather sell it, just imaging I just only bet a small amount like $25 then I will get that plane cost millions its been a 10000000x the amount I release, this would be a a hard to win thing since many people wanted it, but I will still try my luck, because I am very lucky in raffle and such lottery, there is not bad in just trying.

Even if he rent the plane, he needs to have rich people potential customer who will rent the plane, and he should have a busy day to travel from one country to another country. I am not sure that he can find that customer since not all rich people want to rent the plane because they prefer to buy the plane by themselves.
The best thing that people can do if they win that plane is selling back to the government, but they cannot sell it as a high price because if they sell it too high, the government won't try to buy that plane. They only have 2 years to find the potential buyer to sell that plane, but if they cannot find the buyer, then they need to think about the fee of the plane.
Yes , there will be a huge amount of earning as well when you will make that plane for rent , I think it is more good to do that, it could be a long term investment, will consider this one as well , when I won that plane.
I think you can sell it for a high price even though some people/ the government itself will offer that is almost very low compare to the plane itself. The plane cost is 130M$ I think Selling it for 10M-50M is not a bad price considering that you just win it for a 25$. Personally, If someone offer me 10M for that plane I will sell it right away as long all the tax is paid and I will get an exact 10M$, like it or hate it, it's a jackpot and it's a freaking Million Dollars, so yeah! it's not bad and I think I will participate in this kind of raffle or somehow lottery  Grin

I just have some question in my mind, why does their country want to sell/raffle their presidential plane? If they are going to replace it then, good for them! But if not, that would be a huge loss for them, every country should have a presidential plane, and it's one of the needs of every president.
hero member
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February 06, 2020, 11:25:19 PM
The best thing that people can do if they win that plane is selling back to the government, but they cannot sell it as a high price because if they sell it too high, the government won't try to buy that plane.
Even me, if I will have it or won it, I would rather sell it, just imaging I just only bet a small amount like $25 then I will get that plane cost millions its been a 10000000x the amount I release, this would be a a hard to win thing since many people wanted it, but I will still try my luck, because I am very lucky in raffle and such lottery, there is not bad in just trying.

Even if he rent the plane, he needs to have rich people potential customer who will rent the plane, and he should have a busy day to travel from one country to another country. I am not sure that he can find that customer since not all rich people want to rent the plane because they prefer to buy the plane by themselves.
The best thing that people can do if they win that plane is selling back to the government, but they cannot sell it as a high price because if they sell it too high, the government won't try to buy that plane. They only have 2 years to find the potential buyer to sell that plane, but if they cannot find the buyer, then they need to think about the fee of the plane.
Yes , there will be a huge amount of earning as well when you will make that plane for rent , I think it is more good to do that, it could be a long term investment, will consider this one as well , when I won that plane.
legendary
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February 06, 2020, 10:53:00 PM
I find some interesting lines into this article.https://nypost.com/2020/02/03/mexican-president-wants-to-raffle-off-his-plane/

Mexican president do make such lottery or raffle to distract from Mexico's record homicide rate and violence and also this,
It says the ticket fee of $25 will go toward medical equipment and hospitals offering free care for the poor.

Do you really buy on that reason?


If this really happens and all the collected money goes in a good cause, there is nothing better than that. The idea of Mexican president is not only interesting but also it made many people surprised that such an idea could come from the president house.  Smiley

Do anyone knows, has this lottery been started and when the draw will be done ? I would really love to know how many people participated and who was the lucky winner.


This is indeed a nice way to get money to help a country collect funds without losing anything in reality and the plane will be bought back with profit. When people will know that the amount collected will be used to help the poor and the needy, many will join the lottery, even they had no interest in the prize.
Don't know about the exact date but i read 15 Feb.
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He said he’ll make a final decision on the drawing Feb. 15.

I doubt he will sell out 6 million tickets by then, so he will probably end up giving the plane away for a lot less than it's worth.

It would have been much more efficient to simply sell the plane at an auction, to a chart company or even an airline company.

He would probably have raised more money that way, and hence made more money to pour into healthcare/schools etc.

I do agree to this to some extent. Airplane is a very expensive item and there are possibilities that this plan may fail. But the idea is good. If he could apply the same to any of the presidential car or any other precious belonging, the results could be far better and many more people will be interested to get those things which are easy to maintain.
full member
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February 06, 2020, 10:43:18 PM
Selling is the best thing to do if ever you won that presidential plane.

The maintenance is quite expensive to keep it for an ordinary citizen. But since the ticket only cost $25 its a big reward winning the plane.

The best thing that people can do if they win that plane is selling back to the government, but they cannot sell it as a high price because if they sell it too high, the government won't try to buy that plane.
Well even they buy it in cheaper price it will be acceptable since you only spend few dollars for the ticket to be able to win that plane.
for sure Buyers are already in place even before the raffle starts or maybe the government itself will offer to buy the plane again.
there are many scenarios can happen because the motive of the event is also questionable for why it needs to be sell or raffled when each presidents need a private plane when travelling abroad,it is not only because they can safe a lot but also the safeties and security of president and His whole delegation as for sure prominent people will be with Him every trip.
hero member
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February 06, 2020, 10:18:37 PM
Mexico could raffle his presidential plane, the idea is to sell 6M tickets of $25 dollars each one, and the winner gets a presidential plane evaluated in $130 million.

This crazy idea is because the Mexican president wan to sell the plane to spend the money on other projects.

What do you think would you buy a ticket?

Sources:
https://robbreport.com/motors/aviation/mexico-may-raffle-off-presidential-plane-2893600/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/17/mexico-amlo-presidential-plane-raffle
Well, for me this is a sort of easy way to raise a funds to spend to other projects a good intention for the president. By doing math the total amount of the sale for the presidential plane would a huge profit, and i'm thinking about who are willing to to buy that ticket to take their chance to win the plane.
who knows what is the deal behind this?who can assure us that the money will be used for other project?and like what other poster said above having a Presidential plane saves the government Lots of money whenever they are travelling because he(the president) must be accompanied by many delegation and for sure he wont be flying by Himself so the reality about selling to spend in other project is questionable.
If ever, i would only buy one ticket for it and if i won, selling it is the best option for me i don't even think about using it its a luxurious plane and costly when it comes to maintenance selling it and use the money to spend onto other things would be a great idea. I knew some other will going to buy many tickets to have a better chance they can afford it.
if lucky to win,then you can even Rent the plane because that can be a bread and butter as this is a transportation thing the only problem is how to maintain and secure the plane by simple people?
I didn't even know, but I guess the OP knews it and he based it from other news.

You're right, it is questionable where does the president will spend the money in the first place it is a property and money from the government.

Absolutely, thanks for another good idea as it will give a passive income than thinking where to spend the money if i'm going to sell the plane and have a business. That's the only problem to maintain it since it was a luxury, there should be a certain rules to be added to the passengers and to keep the workers to check the plane regularly as long as i can pay them.
hero member
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February 06, 2020, 10:09:50 PM
Selling is the best thing to do if ever you won that presidential plane.

The maintenance is quite expensive to keep it for an ordinary citizen. But since the ticket only cost $25 its a big reward winning the plane.

The best thing that people can do if they win that plane is selling back to the government, but they cannot sell it as a high price because if they sell it too high, the government won't try to buy that plane.
Well even they buy it in cheaper price it will be acceptable since you only spend few dollars for the ticket to be able to win that plane.
hero member
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February 06, 2020, 09:52:26 PM
If ever, i would only buy one ticket for it and if i won, selling it is the best option for me i don't even think about using it its a luxurious plane and costly when it comes to maintenance selling it and use the money to spend onto other things would be a great idea. I knew some other will going to buy many tickets to have a better chance they can afford it.
if lucky to win,then you can even Rent the plane because that can be a bread and butter as this is a transportation thing the only problem is how to maintain and secure the plane by simple people?

Even if he rent the plane, he needs to have rich people potential customer who will rent the plane, and he should have a busy day to travel from one country to another country. I am not sure that he can find that customer since not all rich people want to rent the plane because they prefer to buy the plane by themselves.

The best thing that people can do if they win that plane is selling back to the government, but they cannot sell it as a high price because if they sell it too high, the government won't try to buy that plane. They only have 2 years to find the potential buyer to sell that plane, but if they cannot find the buyer, then they need to think about the fee of the plane.
hero member
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February 06, 2020, 08:25:13 PM
Mexico could raffle his presidential plane, the idea is to sell 6M tickets of $25 dollars each one, and the winner gets a presidential plane evaluated in $130 million.

This crazy idea is because the Mexican president wan to sell the plane to spend the money on other projects.

What do you think would you buy a ticket?

Sources:
https://robbreport.com/motors/aviation/mexico-may-raffle-off-presidential-plane-2893600/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/17/mexico-amlo-presidential-plane-raffle
Well, for me this is a sort of easy way to raise a funds to spend to other projects a good intention for the president. By doing math the total amount of the sale for the presidential plane would a huge profit, and i'm thinking about who are willing to to buy that ticket to take their chance to win the plane.
who knows what is the deal behind this?who can assure us that the money will be used for other project?and like what other poster said above having a Presidential plane saves the government Lots of money whenever they are travelling because he(the president) must be accompanied by many delegation and for sure he wont be flying by Himself so the reality about selling to spend in other project is questionable.
If ever, i would only buy one ticket for it and if i won, selling it is the best option for me i don't even think about using it its a luxurious plane and costly when it comes to maintenance selling it and use the money to spend onto other things would be a great idea. I knew some other will going to buy many tickets to have a better chance they can afford it.
if lucky to win,then you can even Rent the plane because that can be a bread and butter as this is a transportation thing the only problem is how to maintain and secure the plane by simple people?
hero member
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February 06, 2020, 06:29:32 PM
Mexico could raffle his presidential plane, the idea is to sell 6M tickets of $25 dollars each one, and the winner gets a presidential plane evaluated in $130 million.

This crazy idea is because the Mexican president wan to sell the plane to spend the money on other projects.

What do you think would you buy a ticket?

Sources:
https://robbreport.com/motors/aviation/mexico-may-raffle-off-presidential-plane-2893600/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/17/mexico-amlo-presidential-plane-raffle
Well, for me this is a sort of easy way to raise a funds to spend to other projects a good intention for the president. By doing math the total amount of the sale for the presidential plane would a huge profit, and i'm thinking about who are willing to to buy that ticket to take their chance to win the plane.

If ever, i would only buy one ticket for it and if i won, selling it is the best option for me i don't even think about using it its a luxurious plane and costly when it comes to maintenance selling it and use the money to spend onto other things would be a great idea. I knew some other will going to buy many tickets to have a better chance they can afford it.
hero member
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Get'em boys
February 06, 2020, 05:31:13 PM
I find some interesting lines into this article.https://nypost.com/2020/02/03/mexican-president-wants-to-raffle-off-his-plane/

Mexican president do make such lottery or raffle to distract from Mexico's record homicide rate and violence and also this,
It says the ticket fee of $25 will go toward medical equipment and hospitals offering free care for the poor.

Do you really buy on that reason?


If this really happens and all the collected money goes in a good cause, there is nothing better than that. The idea of Mexican president is not only interesting but also it made many people surprised that such an idea could come from the president house.  Smiley

Do anyone knows, has this lottery been started and when the draw will be done ? I would really love to know how many people participated and who was the lucky winner.


This is indeed a nice way to get money to help a country collect funds without losing anything in reality and the plane will be bought back with profit. When people will know that the amount collected will be used to help the poor and the needy, many will join the lottery, even they had no interest in the prize.
Don't know about the exact date but i read 15 Feb.
Quote
He said he’ll make a final decision on the drawing Feb. 15.

I doubt he will sell out 6 million tickets by then, so he will probably end up giving the plane away for a lot less than it's worth.

It would have been much more efficient to simply sell the plane at an auction, to a chart company or even an airline company.

He would probably have raised more money that way, and hence made more money to pour into healthcare/schools etc.
hero member
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February 06, 2020, 03:48:50 PM
I find some interesting lines into this article.https://nypost.com/2020/02/03/mexican-president-wants-to-raffle-off-his-plane/

Mexican president do make such lottery or raffle to distract from Mexico's record homicide rate and violence and also this,
It says the ticket fee of $25 will go toward medical equipment and hospitals offering free care for the poor.

Do you really buy on that reason?


If this really happens and all the collected money goes in a good cause, there is nothing better than that. The idea of Mexican president is not only interesting but also it made many people surprised that such an idea could come from the president house.  Smiley

Do anyone knows, has this lottery been started and when the draw will be done ? I would really love to know how many people participated and who was the lucky winner.


This is indeed a nice way to get money to help a country collect funds without losing anything in reality and the plane will be bought back with profit. When people will know that the amount collected will be used to help the poor and the needy, many will join the lottery, even they had no interest in the prize.
Don't know about the exact date but i read 15 Feb.
Quote
He said he’ll make a final decision on the drawing Feb. 15.
Its said that he would still make the final decision on Feb. 15 not the actual drawing and also to put up some good quote from the president.

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He said the money from the sale of the presidential aircraft could be put to better use helping the country’s poor.

“Money is the mother and father of the devil,” he said. “I don’t want any families destroyed because (the plane) is worth more in goods, and I don’t want to carry that guilt because I am responsible.”
If said money would be fully intended to help the poor then its really a good cause.
full member
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February 06, 2020, 01:46:06 PM
I find some interesting lines into this article.https://nypost.com/2020/02/03/mexican-president-wants-to-raffle-off-his-plane/

Mexican president do make such lottery or raffle to distract from Mexico's record homicide rate and violence and also this,
It says the ticket fee of $25 will go toward medical equipment and hospitals offering free care for the poor.

Do you really buy on that reason?


If this really happens and all the collected money goes in a good cause, there is nothing better than that. The idea of Mexican president is not only interesting but also it made many people surprised that such an idea could come from the president house.  Smiley

Do anyone knows, has this lottery been started and when the draw will be done ? I would really love to know how many people participated and who was the lucky winner.


This is indeed a nice way to get money to help a country collect funds without losing anything in reality and the plane will be bought back with profit. When people will know that the amount collected will be used to help the poor and the needy, many will join the lottery, even they had no interest in the prize.
Don't know about the exact date but i read 15 Feb.
Quote
He said he’ll make a final decision on the drawing Feb. 15.
legendary
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February 06, 2020, 01:39:35 PM
I find some interesting lines into this article.https://nypost.com/2020/02/03/mexican-president-wants-to-raffle-off-his-plane/

Mexican president do make such lottery or raffle to distract from Mexico's record homicide rate and violence and also this,
It says the ticket fee of $25 will go toward medical equipment and hospitals offering free care for the poor.

Do you really buy on that reason?


If this really happens and all the collected money goes in a good cause, there is nothing better than that. The idea of Mexican president is not only interesting but also it made many people surprised that such an idea could come from the president house.  Smiley

Do anyone knows, has this lottery been started and when the draw will be done ? I would really love to know how many people participated and who was the lucky winner.
hero member
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February 06, 2020, 01:20:43 PM
I find some interesting lines into this article.https://nypost.com/2020/02/03/mexican-president-wants-to-raffle-off-his-plane/

Mexican president do make such lottery or raffle to distract from Mexico's record homicide rate and violence and also this,
It says the ticket fee of $25 will go toward medical equipment and hospitals offering free care for the poor.

Do you really buy on that reason?
sr. member
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February 06, 2020, 11:09:47 AM
So let's do the maths.

6 million tickets * $25 = $150 million. You can buy these plans brand new for $120 million, so his used one is probably worth more like $75 million.

That's a 50% return to player rate, absolutely terrible IMO.

Also, who in the hell wants the presidential plane? They'll just sell it straight away and likely have nowhere to even park it. I expect this will completely fail.
hero member
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February 06, 2020, 10:55:02 AM
Even if I won it, where would I get the money to house it, maintain it, fly it, etc? I guess that I can always re-sell it :-)
That is the idea if you win the plane it is obvious you are not going to have any way to keep it but you can be sure that different airlines through the world will be looking for you and offer you a good price for the airplane, when you take into consideration all the factors it is not a bad deal, it is obvious the chances of winning are low but if you do you could easily solve your life in an instant and even if you do not you will be participating in one of the most interesting raffles ever.
sr. member
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February 06, 2020, 09:29:46 AM
Are they short in funds? Or in desparate need but doesn't want to loan to other countries?

Nevertheless, having a single ticket would onyl get you as far as 0.000016% of winning. Near zero value like this won't attract me that much.

Also, how are they so sure that 6M tickets would be sold? (Unless whales hoard tickets, or people there really does want a plane). Winning it also comes with another problem of selling it. Unless he is an experienced one, he might get into trouble for dealing and selling this property.

I don't know if they are really short in funds but I read that the Mexican president hates or doesn't like boarding a private jet or plane. Surprisingly he boards common planes from airlines and not his private plane. As far as I know a family voluntarily get out of the llane since they didn't want to be with the president as it may be dangerous for their children. Not literally the president but because of the people that takes photos with him and that might cause an incident.
legendary
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There's no need to be upset
February 06, 2020, 08:25:04 AM
That's a lot of money, if he manage to sell those ticket for $25 each he'd get 150M but those average citizens wont probably be interested because they have to spend money to store it, maintenance and pay a pilot to fly it and you'll only get 1 in 6M chance to win it. Why not just do a bidding with airline companies to raise and to sell it much more easily or collect proper taxes from business in their state and eliminate drug cartels that's destroying their economy.


the idea of selling to airline companies is definitely better.
I talked about ho stupid would be to buy an airplane if you can't mantain it on an earlier post on this topic.

regarding eliminating drug cartels: politicians have skin in the game and earn with the prohibition, only effective way to end the war on drugs (which is really stupid, btw), is legalizing and decriminalizing.
full member
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February 06, 2020, 04:48:35 AM
That's a lot of money, if he manage to sell those ticket for $25 each he'd get 150M but those average citizens wont probably be interested because they have to spend money to store it, maintenance and pay a pilot to fly it. Why not just do a bidding with airline companies to raise and to sell it much more easily.


it has already come to bidding but there are no interesting to the amount targeted to be sold in which i believe is 120 million,and even US president Trump deny to Buy the plane that is why Mexican Government comes to this Idea to make a raffle in which will favor them as well because they only target 120 in selling/bidding but in this raffle they can gather 150$ as what you mentioned.
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