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April 09, 2014, 07:13:27 PM
#70
I cannot believe that people really give a sh*t about gaming.

My $.02.

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April 09, 2014, 09:48:51 AM
#69
Why you're not using win7? Is there any particular reason behind this or it's just a habit?

As I have stated earlier, I am using Win7 in my laptop and XP on my desktop. Some of my games and programs are only compatible with XP and I can't live without them.  Grin
Regarding games, there's usually a workaround to use them with Windows 7. Well, at least for all the old games I play.
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April 09, 2014, 09:03:42 AM
#68
Why you're not using win7? Is there any particular reason behind this or it's just a habit?

As I have stated earlier, I am using Win7 in my laptop and XP on my desktop. Some of my games and programs are only compatible with XP and I can't live without them.  Grin
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April 09, 2014, 08:53:07 AM
#67
Well no. Browsing or downloading with Windows XP is the best way of getting tons of viruses, spywares, trojans & keyloggers.

Watching movie offline is fine.

Oh... you don't have to worry if you are having a good anti-Virus software. I am having Kaspersky Internet Security 2014, which is compatible with Windows XP.  Grin (Requires SP3 though).
Why you're not using win7? Is there any particular reason behind this or it's just a habit?
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April 09, 2014, 07:32:47 AM
#66
Minor updates and bugfixes would be sufficient. Instead there are major releases which are bloated with graphical gimmick that just waste system resources but add nothing substantial.

XP entire security model is broken.  Microsoft has tried to patch it as best they could but it is like adding suport to a house built on sand.   Windows 7 is vastly superior from a security standpoint.   There are whole classes of security vulnerabilities which affect XP only, 90%+ of botnet nodes are Windows XP machines.  Sure you could use a patch which completely rewrites the core processes of XP but you would essentially be creating Windows 7.  There is absolutely no reason to be using Windows XP at this point (or even four years ago).

If Windows 7 offered nothing else the inclusion of Address Space Layout Randomization (ASLR), PatchGuard, UAC, and Protected Mode Internet Explorer make it inherently more secure than Windows XP can ever be.

Even if this is true, security can't be a valid explanation for such massive wasting of system resources by later versions. Taking into account all odds I also doubt that Windows 7 is more secure. Who knows which (new) backdoors have been installed by three-letter organizations? It's also not always the best idea to have the newest version (see OpenSSL). Apart from that the probability of attack declines with lower market penetration, because there is less incentive to develop new malware for systems with few users.

So if I leave XP I'll go for Linux (a lightweight distribution).

Windows XP is completely shit because it has a limit of RAM and physical processors.

Not relevant if you have an older computer. On older computers it's much faster than any of its successors. And apart from newest games you can use all applications. So there's a reason why many businesses haven't updated yet: There are costs but no tangible benefits.


Well no. Browsing or downloading with Windows XP is the best way of getting tons of viruses, spywares, trojans & keyloggers.

Watching movie offline is fine.

This depends on your security settings, your behavior and the browser you are using. I'm using firefox with various security/privacy plugins with JavaScript deactivated by default.

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April 09, 2014, 06:45:22 AM
#65
Well no. Browsing or downloading with Windows XP is the best way of getting tons of viruses, spywares, trojans & keyloggers.

Watching movie offline is fine.

Oh... you don't have to worry if you are having a good anti-Virus software. I am having Kaspersky Internet Security 2014, which is compatible with Windows XP.  Grin (Requires SP3 though).
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April 09, 2014, 06:28:35 AM
#64
Its favorite client operating system for all, we are going to miss it
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April 09, 2014, 05:35:16 AM
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Oh, and last time I had to install a Win8.1 for someone's son (gaming machine hardware I assembled & setup from scratch), this is basically what happened :
(25+ years of experience in hardware/OS ranging from DOS/Windows to CPM, Linux and Unix software & hardware maintenance)

- Hardware assembly was no sweat
- Drivers were a tad more confusing but that I credit to the Board manufacturer (mixed unessential bloatware with required drivers, which I had to sort out manually as the Driver CD had no Driver auto-install)
- there I found out Win8.1 still had no clue where to look for missing Drivers on its own, that still only works with age old default hardware stuff

Functional tests : play HD Video
Worked good, Windows Media player launched in acceptable speed (nothing other OS'es or VLC wouldn't easily beat but well...).
Pressed ESC to get out of fullscreen mode - FAIL. Tried again and FAIL... WTF? That's an old convention valid since decades ??!? Oh well, pressed ALT+Enter to get out of fullscreen - FAIL. W...T....F???
Now I'm getting really interested. Manually stopped the movie playback using the Media Player's GUI - and I get back to some MicroSoft Movie store and empty video libraries... *ugh* WHAT ?! You kiddin' me ? I ain't got no stinkin' Microsoft account so bugger off!
Tried Windows Keys on Keyboard to get something useful to happen but FAIL. Pressed ALT+F4 - FAIL. At this time I'm seriously giving that computer and MicroSoft some very unkind words I'd rather not post here...

At the first time, to quit the fullscreen Media Player I ended up pressing STRG+ALT+DEL to manually launch the Task Manager and kill the Media Player process.

It wasn't until I googled the Metro "magic edges" to "leave" "Apps" (fuck this ain't no fu**ing smartphone *&#$#) just to find out they don't even close and keep running in the background if done that way. Very resource-friendly ending up with multiple unneeded background programs clinging to limited resources... Not too bright folks, not too bright.
Seriously ? What drugs did the dev team take when they made all these terrible decisions ?

Functional Tests : 3D Benchmarks
Those ran okay but I initially did not enable the function "create Desktop Icon" when installing (after all, who trashes their Desktop with Icons right ? That's what we got a Start menu for...).
Or so I tought....
Looking to launch the Bench from the Metro GUI, I found out I have to scroll down one "tile screen" just to get to "Programs". Nice, very useful *lol*.

But hey, on the main screen I can see tiles advertising NYSE Stock indexes, current weather for a city 300mi away, live travel suggestions (WTF?) - and food places recommendations.... Food places... On the main screen of the GUI - of a Desktop system. *ugh* At this time I was at a loss of words for that ridiciulous, complete and total mess.

I even tried to make out if the basic uni colors of these tiles had any importance or contained some form of visual sort.... just to find out - no, apparently a drunk guy randomly assigned those, so not even those basic color tiles give you any additional clue (despite taking the whole goddarn screen).

I did find "Programs" - just to see is was a completely hopeless mess with no chance of giving it any reasonable sorting. At least the freshly installed software was lit in a highlighted color. Too bad that included all Drivers/Motherboard tools as well, so not even that helped.
I always thought the new Aero Start menu - Programs was degraded (hence they had to include a "search" function for programs), but Metro clearly beat everything seen to date.
Technically, I was easier to go to MS-DOS 5.0 and find out what commands were availale to that OS. That actually was far quicker.

I originally did have the intention of doing a few more tests - but happily reconsidered, since performing even the most basic tasks with this POS OS was taking me near a choleric heart attack.

On the most positive note of that day - this experience hardened my decision into solid monocrystalline Duranium that Metro would never get anywhere near my Desktop system.
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In the end, everything worked as advertised. Had no complaints there...
BUT how it worked was a complete and utter disaster. I gave away the assembled machine with clear instructions that OS related problems were none of my responsibilities and refused to yield any support to that junkhole of an OS.
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April 09, 2014, 05:34:53 AM
#62
I just can't wait for all of this system, ATMs and everything running on windowsxp for such a long time will need to change system and rewrite everything.

Actually, I wonder, since it would create some inconvenience in services for awhile, would some people decide to make transaction with different technology ... Wink
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April 09, 2014, 05:22:40 AM
#61
I am already miss Windows XP - I have been using it for a long before Win 7! Will never download Win8!
Wish they'd do something similar to XP
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April 09, 2014, 04:42:49 AM
#60
My first computer ran Windows 95. My second computer ran Windows 98 SE. I currently have a laptop that runs Windows 8, a netbook that runs Windows 7, and a netbook and laptop that runs Windows XP. I also used to own a Vista laptop as well. Out of all of these, I would have to say that XP is by far the best in terms of how well the interface is designed and how fast the whole thing runs. Stability-wise, it is a huge improvement over 9x although Windows 7 and 8 are probably superior security-wise.

I WANT MY START MENU!



My $.02.

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Windows 95 wasn't that bad. It was probably one of the most innovative versions of Windows that Microsoft ever released.

And I agree 100% about the start menu thing.

There is really not much justification for more MS OS'ms. Are there any essential things that Windows 7 and 8 contain, that XP does not?

Minor updates and bugfixes would be sufficient. Instead there are major releases which are bloated with graphical gimmick that just waste system resources but add nothing substantial.

I agree with this too.
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April 09, 2014, 04:12:27 AM
#59
I am still using Windows XP is my favorite,but Windows seems to force people to use the news version   Sad
They cannot continue support for a 12 y.o. OS. It makes perfect sense.

Though now I have to convince my grand-mother that she have to install a lightweight linux like Lubuntu (her machine is from 2005). But does not want to, since a 70-80 year old man she know will come next summer and install Windows 7. Good luck I say.
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April 09, 2014, 04:10:26 AM
#58
I am still using Windows XP is my favorite,but Windows seems to force people to use the news version   Sad

Not really forcing you to. XP is ancient now, can't really expect them to support it forever.
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April 09, 2014, 03:59:56 AM
#57
I am still using Windows XP is my favorite,but Windows seems to force people to use the news version   Sad
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April 09, 2014, 03:50:56 AM
#56
I need a new computer later this year.
Looking forward to Windows 8.  Smiley
well don`t...
Buy one with Windows 7,you wont regret it.Otherwise you will...
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April 09, 2014, 03:36:08 AM
#55
windows ∞... because it take forever to load  Grin
Nice one Cheesy
I`m not a fan of those...
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April 09, 2014, 03:26:48 AM
#54
Windows XP is completely shit because it has a limit of RAM and physical processors.
But for simple tasks, such as browsing and watching movies, it is just perfect. I agree that if you are in to gaming and such, XP won't be of much use. (That is why I have two systems with me).

Well no. Browsing or downloading with Windows XP is the best way of getting tons of viruses, spywares, trojans & keyloggers.

Watching movie offline is fine.
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April 09, 2014, 03:23:53 AM
#53
Windows XP is completely shit because it has a limit of RAM and physical processors.

But for simple tasks, such as browsing and watching movies, it is just perfect. I agree that if you are in to gaming and such, XP won't be of much use. (That is why I have two systems with me).
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April 09, 2014, 02:45:30 AM
#52

Windows XP is completely shit because it has a limit of RAM and physical processors.

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April 09, 2014, 02:39:29 AM
#51
i am using window 7 please tell me how can i make safe my computer form hacker
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