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April 09, 2014, 02:17:39 AM
#50
If you want to keep Windows XP, never use Internet Explorer, Messenger and Outlook (if possible un-install it). These are the applications being used by Microsoft in configuring your computer and operating system. These applications are also being used by hackers to get into your computers.


Good idea, keep using XP but kicking out all other Microsoft products  Grin
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April 09, 2014, 01:55:39 AM
#49
I am still using Windows XP in my Desktop, although I have W7 in my laptop. I find XP more simple and easier to use as compared to W7. And so far, I am yet to find a reason to favor W7 or W8 over XP!
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April 09, 2014, 01:51:49 AM
#48
I still have my Desktop computer running with XP and I haven't done any updates in years, it still work (and I don't keep anything there except few games I play and few books) but no personal data/camera/wallet/creditcard etc...
I'm using XP too..! without any updates from a while now.! It have used so many other OS , Win7 , win8 , Linux and few others..! and it still is one of my fav.
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April 09, 2014, 01:47:36 AM
#47
If you want to keep Windows XP, never use Internet Explorer, Messenger and Outlook (if possible un-install it). These are the applications being used by Microsoft in configuring your computer and operating system. These applications are also being used by hackers to get into your computers.
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April 09, 2014, 12:40:10 AM
#46
I still have my Desktop computer running with XP and I haven't done any updates in years, it still work (and I don't keep anything there except few games I play and few books) but no personal data/camera/wallet/creditcard etc...
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April 09, 2014, 12:14:42 AM
#45
Actually it does, he talking about 8.1 update 1

Ah, okay, so they re-patched their 8.1 Patch to 8.1.1 then... At least something.

btw, I'm not really against offering new GUI conventions (even if they break the old ones) - BUT they have to be optional.
Had MicroSoft offered to make a simple choice to use either Win2000 - XP - Aero - Metro GUI, they would have saved themselves from alot of trouble.
But it seems they preferred to go the Office Ribbons route "Fail to find even the most-used and basic functions!!".

On a positive note, all that re-introduced the users back to the Windows Keyboard shortcuts and the console Wink
(which are quicker in producing results than their failed Metro GUI or Ribbons UI any day)
Lol... That's funny. When I set up someone on a W8 box (heh - w8 box...), they couldn't figure out how to close a picture they opened. I couldn't, either, so that started the first of many lessons on keyboard shortcuts to use the damned thing for simple tasks. I eventually learned the GUI was on the right-hand side due to Huh. There's no valid reason to do that -- it's unintuitive and that's not a perspective brought on by "resistance to change." Every time something's new and sucks, if you don't like it - you're just "resisting change," like you're the Obsolete Man in a world clearly too sophisticated for his worn presence.

I'm convinced MS produces a difficult-to-use, bloated-seeming OS so they can double-up on revenue by then selling the poor enthusiast a W7 license for when they inevitably want to downgrade. By the time W9 is pushed, they'll then buy the latest version since there own is clearly becoming out of date - behind by two releases! With an S3, I can skip the S4, but an S5? Fuck me - I don't want people thinking I'm the only guy in town with an outhouse! It's about as perfect a scheme as possible.

Unintuitive design has been pissing me off a good bit, lately, and I think touch screens are probably the pinnacle of bad design. They've been around for decades, but now, in 2015, I still mistype things on my cell phone which I never would on a keyboard and the audio recognition is still somehow so bad that has me asking my mom if she wants to mount dick when I say Mt Gox. Even the giant numbers in the "dial" window, I have trouble using. When I need to get into the MSL menu, if I mis-type it twice, it completely reboots the phone just to be an asshole. The damned thing's slow as molasses, too. Shortcuts? Good luck doodling them. -Then things suddenly freeze up for no discernible reason, so I'm totally sympathetic to resistance to change when almost every hardware and software designer on the planet gives you reason to be.  Let me tell you the perfect cell phone design: you use WiDi to project your screen onto a computer monitor, use WiFi to use a PC through VNC, then use BT to connect a keyboard and mouse. Perfect. Damn cell phones and punk-ass kids who practically force them on us... and 3D came and went AGAIN, but not before pushing increased costs on EVERYTHING for something which adds zero value... can't wait for the fifty years to pass so I can kick their asses "due to Alzheimer's".... Angry
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April 08, 2014, 11:47:09 PM
#44
I need a new computer later this year.
Looking forward to Windows 8.  Smiley
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April 08, 2014, 11:35:00 PM
#43
lol! isn't better than getting it all over your keyboard and screen and stuff ? at least you can just wipe your screen, and in case you can't help your self you can get a Kinect like system to controll windows without touching the screen

Yeah but the idea of having to buy a fix for software that I've already paid for galls me.

My $.02.

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April 08, 2014, 09:58:05 PM
#42
lol! isn't better than getting it all over your keyboard and screen and stuff ? at least you can just wipe your screen, and in case you can't help your self you can get a Kinect like system to controll windows without touching the screen
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April 08, 2014, 09:31:03 PM
#41
Actually it does, he talking about 8.1 update 1

Ah, okay, so they re-patched their 8.1 Patch to 8.1.1 then... At least something.

btw, I'm not really against offering new GUI conventions (even if they break the old ones) - BUT they have to be optional.
Had MicroSoft offered to make a simple choice to use either Win2000 - XP - Aero - Metro GUI, they would have saved themselves from alot of trouble.
But it seems they preferred to go the Office Ribbons route "Fail to find even the most-used and basic functions!!".

On a positive note, all that re-introduced the users back to the Windows Keyboard shortcuts and the console Wink
(which are quicker in producing results than their failed Metro GUI or Ribbons UI any day)

Yes exactly, they are offering the option now to by pass the whole modern UI thingy (they don't call it metro as in windows phone and don't know why) Modern UI is good but not right now maybe when they'll be a strong appstore and most have a touch screen device but right now it's just a pain for those who doesn't have those


OK. Ima eatin' fried chicken and I get fried chickenshit all over my touchscsreen because MS demands that I do so?

LOL!

My $.02.

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April 08, 2014, 09:04:09 PM
#40
Actually it does, he talking about 8.1 update 1

Ah, okay, so they re-patched their 8.1 Patch to 8.1.1 then... At least something.

btw, I'm not really against offering new GUI conventions (even if they break the old ones) - BUT they have to be optional.
Had MicroSoft offered to make a simple choice to use either Win2000 - XP - Aero - Metro GUI, they would have saved themselves from alot of trouble.
But it seems they preferred to go the Office Ribbons route "Fail to find even the most-used and basic functions!!".

On a positive note, all that re-introduced the users back to the Windows Keyboard shortcuts and the console Wink
(which are quicker in producing results than their failed Metro GUI or Ribbons UI any day)

Yes exactly, they are offering the option now to by pass the whole modern UI thingy (they don't call it metro as in windows phone and don't know why) Modern UI is good but not right now maybe when they'll be a strong appstore and most have a touch screen device but right now it's just a pain for those who doesn't have those
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Sentinel
April 08, 2014, 08:09:06 PM
#39
Actually it does, he talking about 8.1 update 1

Ah, okay, so they re-patched their 8.1 Patch to 8.1.1 then... At least something.

btw, I'm not really against offering new GUI conventions (even if they break the old ones) - BUT they have to be optional.
Had MicroSoft offered to make a simple choice to use either Win2000 - XP - Aero - Metro GUI, they would have saved themselves from alot of trouble.
But it seems they preferred to go the Office Ribbons route "Fail to find even the most-used and basic functions!!".

On a positive note, all that re-introduced the users back to the Windows Keyboard shortcuts and the console Wink
(which are quicker in producing results than their failed Metro GUI or Ribbons UI any day)
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April 08, 2014, 06:55:35 PM
#38
Windows 8.1 actually brings back the start button!

Yeah, but it doesn't work like the start button.
Win8 is likely the only OS you have to purchase some shareware to make it work halfway useful again.

It's not surprising that the Win8 lead designer has been fired from MicroSoft.

Metro design looks like a 16 color CGA design for the visually impaired (reminds me of the Win95 basic design for handicapped users).
Even the 25 years old C64 GEOS or the Commodore AMIGA Workbench offered higher usability than Metro on a Desktop. Heck I'd rather sit in front of a 15 year old SGI Irix 6.5 Desktop on a 20 year old Indigo2 200MHz Unix workstation - at least that GUI actually works like a charm and still looks heaps & bounds better than this retarded Metro design error.

Actually it does, he talking about 8.1 update 1
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April 08, 2014, 06:15:06 PM
#37
Windows 8.1 actually brings back the start button!

Yeah, but it doesn't work like the start button.
Win8 is likely the only OS you have to purchase some shareware to make it work halfway useful again.

It's not surprising that the Win8 lead designer has been fired from MicroSoft.

Metro design looks like a 16 color CGA design for the visually impaired (reminds me of the Win95 basic design for handicapped users).
Even the 25 years old C64 GEOS or the Commodore AMIGA Workbench offered higher usability than Metro on a Desktop. Heck I'd rather sit in front of a 15 year old SGI Irix 6.5 Desktop on a 20 year old Indigo2 200MHz Unix workstation - at least that GUI actually works like a charm and still looks heaps & bounds better than this retarded Metro design error.

haha, so true! I would not describe it better myself. I will wait for windows 9 now because they probably fix most of the problems there.
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Gerald Davis
April 08, 2014, 06:06:38 PM
#36
Windows 8.1 actually brings back the start button!

Yeah, but it doesn't work like the start button.
Win8 is likely the OS you have to purchase some shareware to make it work halfway useful again.

It's not surprising that the Win8 lead designer has been fired from MicroSoft.

You think that is bad.  The server OS use the same interface.   Imagine no start menu on a server.
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Sentinel
April 08, 2014, 06:04:52 PM
#35
Windows 8.1 actually brings back the start button!

Yeah, but it doesn't work like the start button.
Win8 is likely the only OS you have to purchase some shareware to make it work halfway useful again.

It's not surprising that the Win8 lead designer has been fired from MicroSoft.

Metro design looks like a 16 color CGA design for the visually impaired (reminds me of the Win95 basic design for handicapped users).
Even the 25 years old C64 GEOS or the Commodore AMIGA Workbench offered higher usability than Metro on a Desktop. Heck I'd rather sit in front of a 15 year old SGI Irix 6.5 Desktop on a 20 year old Indigo2 200MHz Unix workstation - at least that GUI actually works like a charm and still looks heaps & bounds better than this retarded Metro design error.
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April 08, 2014, 05:57:38 PM
#34
RIP Windows XP I used it long time ago it was good os. Now I am using Win7. Too bad that a lot of devices, mainly 90% ATMs are still running on XP it could be bad...
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Gerald Davis
April 08, 2014, 05:55:44 PM
#33
Minor updates and bugfixes would be sufficient. Instead there are major releases which are bloated with graphical gimmick that just waste system resources but add nothing substantial.

XP entire security model is broken.  Microsoft has tried to patch it as best they could but it is like adding suport to a house built on sand.   Windows 7 is vastly superior from a security standpoint.   There are whole classes of security vulnerabilities which affect XP only, 90%+ of botnet nodes are Windows XP machines.  Sure you could use a patch which completely rewrites the core processes of XP but you would essentially be creating Windows 7.  There is absolutely no reason to be using Windows XP at this point (or even four years ago).

If Windows 7 offered nothing else the inclusion of Address Space Layout Randomization (ASLR), PatchGuard, UAC, and Protected Mode Internet Explorer make it inherently more secure than Windows XP can ever be.
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April 08, 2014, 05:41:06 PM
#32
i think demand of XP is down in market after windows 7 thats why Sad

No, it's because it's a really old operating system which support was meant to end many, many years ago, but they kept extending it due to the amount of people that still had it.
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April 08, 2014, 03:57:43 PM
#31
There is really not much justification for more MS OS'ms. Are there any essential things that Windows 7 and 8 contain, that XP does not?

Minor updates and bugfixes would be sufficient. Instead there are major releases which are bloated with graphical gimmick that just waste system resources but add nothing substantial.

Security/speed/latest standard compatibilities, XP is so popular because it is light and when vista came out vista had too much incompatibility issues and didn't like old machines thats why XP remained strong
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