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Quote from: joker_josue on January 14, 2022, 12:05:44 PM

China is getting even more restricted than games in Japan.

In Japan, only international delegations were in a bubble, and officials could leave and enter the Olympic city.
In China, no one is allowed to leave the event location, including staff. And when it is necessary to leave the place, they go in well-identified vehicles, so that in case of an accident, the support teams take the necessary precautions.

That's a good approach. If we want to move things with covid19 then we have to place such restrictions. Even with such restricted approach you cant guarantee there will be zero covid19 case in winter Olympics but good thing is winter Olympics are going to start on scheduled date. I am excited to see ice hockey in action.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on January 14, 2022, 09:46:36 AM

For all the things China does wrong, the zero COVID-19 policy is not one of them. The Chinese are probably one of the best equipped to tackle a safe and well organised Covid-free Olympics. The "closed-loop" is gonna operate on a very different standard than the rest of the society, more likely to be something similar to the Tokyo Olympics. And as long as everything goes well on the outside, there's gonna be an immense amount of resources put into the closed-loop, which is gonna take care of any situation.

China is getting even more restricted than games in Japan.

In Japan, only international delegations were in a bubble, and officials could leave and enter the Olympic city.
In China, no one is allowed to leave the event location, including staff. And when it is necessary to leave the place, they go in well-identified vehicles, so that in case of an accident, the support teams take the necessary precautions.

I think this is the correct way to go about this, I mean the risk is simply too high for those athletes, the games are held every four years and if they get covid they will lose the opportunity of a lifetime, we must not forget that while the stars of the games participate many times over the majority of the athletes only participate in a single edition of the games.

And it would be a shame that even if they took all the precautions to protect themselves they got the virus from a person that was allowed to go outside the bubble in which they are living.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on January 14, 2022, 09:46:36 AM

For all the things China does wrong, the zero COVID-19 policy is not one of them. The Chinese are probably one of the best equipped to tackle a safe and well organised Covid-free Olympics. The "closed-loop" is gonna operate on a very different standard than the rest of the society, more likely to be something similar to the Tokyo Olympics. And as long as everything goes well on the outside, there's gonna be an immense amount of resources put into the closed-loop, which is gonna take care of any situation.

China is getting even more restricted than games in Japan.

In Japan, only international delegations were in a bubble, and officials could leave and enter the Olympic city.
In China, no one is allowed to leave the event location, including staff. And when it is necessary to leave the place, they go in well-identified vehicles, so that in case of an accident, the support teams take the necessary precautions.

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Quote from: joker_josue on January 14, 2022, 09:27:13 AM

Quote from: galambo on January 14, 2022, 05:52:39 AM

Covid19 is getting complicated once again, omicron variant is getting out of control in many countries once again. I don't think winter Olympics will be cancelled but they will defiantly go on without spectators from outside china. Its best to go with this approach, as we have to live with this virus for sometime.

China is creating a bubble around all athletes and federations participating in the games. As well as for all employees and volunteers of the event. All are tested, quarantined when they arrive in China, and live isolated from the rest of the population.

Therefore, nothing indicates that the games are cancelled. We just won't see spectators at game locations.

For all the things China does wrong, the zero COVID-19 policy is not one of them. The Chinese are probably one of the best equipped to tackle a safe and well organised Covid-free Olympics. The "closed-loop" is gonna operate on a very different standard than the rest of the society, more likely to be something similar to the Tokyo Olympics. And as long as everything goes well on the outside, there's gonna be an immense amount of resources put into the closed-loop, which is gonna take care of any situation.

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Quote from: galambo on January 14, 2022, 05:52:39 AM

Covid19 is getting complicated once again, omicron variant is getting out of control in many countries once again. I don't think winter Olympics will be cancelled but they will defiantly go on without spectators from outside china. Its best to go with this approach, as we have to live with this virus for sometime.

China is creating a bubble around all athletes and federations participating in the games. As well as for all employees and volunteers of the event. All are tested, quarantined when they arrive in China, and live isolated from the rest of the population.

Therefore, nothing indicates that the games are cancelled. We just won't see spectators at game locations.

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Covid19 is getting complicated once again, omicron variant is getting out of control in many countries once again. I don't think winter Olympics will be cancelled but they will defiantly go on without spectators from outside china. Its best to go with this approach, as we have to live with this virus for sometime.

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Situation with NHL season and Olympic 2022 is complicated. According to schedule, Olympic ice hockey games will be from Feb 3 to Feb 20. And according to NHL schedule, there will be no games after Feb 2. If I remember correctly, teams have time to rest before play-off starts, so some players might try to join their Olympic team. But, due to covid, their clubs might not allow them to do it. It will really stupid to lose in play-off, because your multi million contract star sits at home for 10-14 days quarantine. Also, arent all-star games happens between season and play-off ? Players will be busy with it also, rather than fly to Olympics.

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Quote from: Pmalek on January 03, 2022, 06:06:23 PM

Don't try to explain the Winter Olympics and the ice hockey tournament if you don't know what you are talking about. Wink

It doesn't have any restrictions. If the best players are available, meaning those who play in the NHL, and they want to participate, they can. But in normal conditions, the ice hockey tournament together with the Olympics takes place during the playoffs of the NHL. Those players who feature in NHL teams who don't qualify for the playoffs are free to join their national teams. But those who still have club duties aren't released and allowed to play. If a team drops out of the playoffs, it often happens that certain national team players arrive to the tournament late. Others don't got at all.

You're not completely right too. Your explanation more fits to IIHF World Championship which usually happens during NHL playoffs.
During Olympics in February, in NHL it will be regular season, so, no players from NHL will be available for Olympics. During previous Olympics, NHL made break in regular season and all players were released to Olympics and later they return to NHL. But this time NHL won't stop season, same like they didn't stopped in 2018.

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Quote from: og kush420 on January 03, 2022, 10:17:20 AM

I think winter Olympics ice hockey has same restrictions just like Olympics football has some restrictions. Teams can't send there 1st tier football team in Olympics same may true for winter Olympics ice hockey. So ice hockey in winter Olympics won't be of IIHF and NHL level

Don't try to explain the Winter Olympics and the ice hockey tournament if you don't know what you are talking about. Wink

It doesn't have any restrictions. If the best players are available, meaning those who play in the NHL, and they want to participate, they can. But in normal conditions, the ice hockey tournament together with the Olympics takes place during the playoffs of the NHL. Those players who feature in NHL teams who don't qualify for the playoffs are free to join their national teams. But those who still have club duties aren't released and allowed to play. If a team drops out of the playoffs, it often happens that certain national team players arrive to the tournament late. Others don't got at all.

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Quote from: TimeTeller on January 02, 2022, 06:10:37 PM

After what they have been thru last time, they know already the steps that they need to take to contain this event.
As we are still in pandemic owed to this new variant, I believe, they are more prepared this time.
Let's say, there will be no live audience in this upcoming winter olympics, but I think the host nation will have less trouble this time.
In terms of handling the athletes and the containment of the spread of the virus.
Let us see if they will not suspend or delay this event and pursue the scheduled dates.

I think we must learn to live with covid19 rather then halting all together everything. Better approach is to watch this Olympics at home, dont try to rik your life and others. AFAIK, China has not allowed spectators to come and see the game. Only chinese people will be allowed to see the game.

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Quote from: delfastTions on December 31, 2021, 10:07:13 AM

Without hesitation, the Chinese will do their utmost to make this Olympic Games a real celebration of sports.
For example, I am primarily interested in biathlon among men, as well as bobsled competitions. I believe that the Chinese organizers of the bobsleigh event will prepare a very high quality bobsleigh track for this event. Of course, curling is also interesting, such a curious and slightly philosophical kind of winter sports.
Yes, there are many more interesting things to see in February.

China is the new emerging power and they will do there best to make it a big success like they did with Beijing Olympics 2008. They have world finest sporting infrastructure available in there country. Winter Olympics are always fun to watch but this year winter Olympics have biggest challenge of covid19.

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Quote from: Pmalek on January 03, 2022, 06:37:26 AM

Ever since I was a little kid, I always looked forward to the ice hockey tournament in the Winter Olympics. Considering everything that has been going on with COVID-19 and matches being abandoned in the NHL, I am not even sure the regular season will end in time for the start of the tournament. That means an ice hockey tournament without the world's best players. In other terms, a sack of shit.

The NHL calendar has always been in conflict with the IIHF and I guess that will never change. Imagine playing a Football World Cup without players from the Premier League for example? Just awful...

I think winter Olympics ice hockey has same restrictions just like Olympics football has some restrictions. Teams can't send there 1st tier football team in Olympics same may true for winter Olympics ice hockey. So ice hockey in winter Olympics won't be of IIHF and NHL level

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Ever since I was a little kid, I always looked forward to the ice hockey tournament in the Winter Olympics. Considering everything that has been going on with COVID-19 and matches being abandoned in the NHL, I am not even sure the regular season will end in time for the start of the tournament. That means an ice hockey tournament without the world's best players. In other terms, a sack of shit.

The NHL calendar has always been in conflict with the IIHF and I guess that will never change. Imagine playing a Football World Cup without players from the Premier League for example? Just awful...

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Quote from: ajochems on January 02, 2022, 06:39:13 PM

Agreed.The number of people who is going o participated will be low in the winter Olympic .Only the Pacific Ocean region people can sustain the winter Monsoon.Rest of the country people will not able to participate and win the Olympics due to huge change of weather.Eventhough some country maing some history in this Winter Olympics.

Apart from that most of games in winter Olympics requires huge capital and weak countries can't bear that. Take example of curling. Majority of the world is not even familiar with such games. That's why interest is limited in such games as compared to olympics.

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Quote from: ajochems on January 02, 2022, 06:39:13 PM

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We've already had the Tokyo Olympics without an audience, and still it was a formidable spectacle. I hope the Chinese are able to do the same.
China has a very strict protocol against covid, and it is thanks to it that they managed to eradicate covid-19 in 2020.

You cannot expect the Winter Olympics to be as big as the Summer Olympics, personally i am not a big fan of the winter Olympics even though i am die hard fan of the Summer Olympics who watches almost all events that interest me on a daily basis and because majority of the sporting events in the Winter Olympics are not familiar to me i am yet to watch a single event till live.

I will be following this thread, as i have no idea about the athletes participating and the events.

Agreed.The number of people who is going o participated will be low in the winter Olympic .Only the Pacific Ocean region people can sustain the winter Monsoon.Rest of the country people will not able to participate and win the Olympics due to huge change of weather.Eventhough some country maing some history in this Winter Olympics.

There's more to that than the weather. Well, actually it's weather geography (is that even a thing? Cheesy

), as in, a lot of countries do not have the geography to have events for the winter Olympics, as opposed to the summer ones. Also, the appeal of winter sports is usually far lower than their summer counterparts, and there are fewer disciplines with not much new being added (look at the summer Olympics last year, added skateboarding amongst others). So all of those factors contribute to less interest. You know what, something dawned on me right now. Sports overlap, right? I mean, you have wrestling and Judo, for instance, both indoor activities, both can be summer or winter, right?

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Quote from: eaLiTy on December 30, 2021, 06:39:20 PM

Quote from: alegotardo on December 29, 2021, 06:34:51 PM

We've already had the Tokyo Olympics without an audience, and still it was a formidable spectacle. I hope the Chinese are able to do the same.
China has a very strict protocol against covid, and it is thanks to it that they managed to eradicate covid-19 in 2020.

You cannot expect the Winter Olympics to be as big as the Summer Olympics, personally i am not a big fan of the winter Olympics even though i am die hard fan of the Summer Olympics who watches almost all events that interest me on a daily basis and because majority of the sporting events in the Winter Olympics are not familiar to me i am yet to watch a single event till live.

I will be following this thread, as i have no idea about the athletes participating and the events.

Agreed.The number of people who is going o participated will be low in the winter Olympic .Only the Pacific Ocean region people can sustain the winter Monsoon.Rest of the country people will not able to participate and win the Olympics due to huge change of weather.Eventhough some country maing some history in this Winter Olympics.

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Quote from: dimonstration on January 02, 2022, 12:01:31 PM

Quote from: delfastTions on December 31, 2021, 10:07:13 AM

Without hesitation, the Chinese will do their utmost to make this Olympic Games a real celebration of sports.
For example, I am primarily interested in biathlon among men, as well as bobsled competitions. I believe that the Chinese organizers of the bobsleigh event will prepare a very high quality bobsleigh track for this event. Of course, curling is also interesting, such a curious and slightly philosophical kind of winter sports.
Yes, there are many more interesting things to see in February.

Since it’s just 6months after the Tokyo Events we can say that Chinese organizer will sure do their best to defear or give more impact than the previous event and since it will be their time again to host the event after pandemic they might give special attention to details now to make this event unforgettable and memorable. I’m excited to see the skiing and skating setup as well the performances of each participants.

After what they have been thru last time, they know already the steps that they need to take to contain this event.
As we are still in pandemic owed to this new variant, I believe, they are more prepared this time.
Let's say, there will be no live audience in this upcoming winter olympics, but I think the host nation will have less trouble this time.
In terms of handling the athletes and the containment of the spread of the virus.
Let us see if they will not suspend or delay this event and pursue the scheduled dates.

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Quote from: delfastTions on December 31, 2021, 10:07:13 AM

Without hesitation, the Chinese will do their utmost to make this Olympic Games a real celebration of sports.
For example, I am primarily interested in biathlon among men, as well as bobsled competitions. I believe that the Chinese organizers of the bobsleigh event will prepare a very high quality bobsleigh track for this event. Of course, curling is also interesting, such a curious and slightly philosophical kind of winter sports.
Yes, there are many more interesting things to see in February.

Since it’s just 6months after the Tokyo Events we can say that Chinese organizer will sure do their best to defear or give more impact than the previous event and since it will be their time again to host the event after pandemic they might give special attention to details now to make this event unforgettable and memorable. I’m excited to see the skiing and skating setup as well the performances of each participants.

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Quote from: og kush420 on January 02, 2022, 07:26:55 AM

Quote from: eaLiTy on December 30, 2021, 06:39:20 PM

You cannot expect the Winter Olympics to be as big as the Summer Olympics, personally i am not a big fan of the winter Olympics even though i am die hard fan of the Summer Olympics who watches almost all events that interest me on a daily basis and because majority of the sporting events in the Winter Olympics are not familiar to me i am yet to watch a single event till live.

I will be following this thread, as i have no idea about the athletes participating and the events.

You are not alone in this list. There are not many countries in summer and winter Olympics that's why interest in lessen in these games as compared to Olympics where whole world compete. I also don't think many sites will offer betting on these games since not many are involve in betting on winter Olympics.

Well that is only partly true i would think. Yes of course countries from south america, africa and from parts of asia basically don't compete at the winter olympics at all, but the rest of the world pretty much does. So we still have north america, europe (including russia where the winter olympics are at least as important as the summer olympics) and also china, japan and korea. I would say that in all those countries and regions the winter olympics are a very important event and those are basically all the big and wealthy countries of the world. So i would not underestimate the importance of the winter olympics.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on December 30, 2021, 06:39:20 PM

You cannot expect the Winter Olympics to be as big as the Summer Olympics, personally i am not a big fan of the winter Olympics even though i am die hard fan of the Summer Olympics who watches almost all events that interest me on a daily basis and because majority of the sporting events in the Winter Olympics are not familiar to me i am yet to watch a single event till live.

I will be following this thread, as i have no idea about the athletes participating and the events.

You are not alone in this list. There are not many countries in summer and winter Olympics that's why interest in lessen in these games as compared to Olympics where whole world compete. I also don't think many sites will offer betting on these games since not many are involve in betting on winter Olympics.

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