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Quote from: iv4n on May 26, 2021, 03:22:13 PM

Regulations are swords with two edges! Do we seek regulations from people we hate (governments and banks)?! Would we feel safer if we give a percent to "Uncle Sam"?

That's literally the reason why I am in crypto, I want nothing to do with regulations from the governments and that is why I came to bitcoin world to begin with. I hate banks, I hate governments and I hate politicians and crypto allowed me to be in a decentralized world. Sure there are moments I feel like it is not decentralized at all but I still think that it is a good one. This is why I do not think that any KYC or anything remotely close to doxxing would make me happy.

This is why I try to stay away from everything that focuses on those type of things, I personally would rather just not be involved then give all my info because at that point I could easily use fiat world and I wouldn't need to be in crypto. Long story short KYC is making bitcoin more like fiat and that is why I am staying away from it, I suggest all companies to stay away from it as well.

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Quote from: Furious 7 on May 15, 2021, 11:49:22 AM

What's wrong if the gambling site we use has implemented the KYC system for years, is it safe? Are you sure? I think this is fine because they also run the business seriously and want to do their users better so the implementation of KYC will not be a problem because this has become a new rule that must be implemented if we don't think it will be labeled illegal by the site for not following the FAQ.
Even if Wolfbet does it for me it won't be a problem.

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So the question remains, if the fiat ones are that brave, why the crypto ones are so eager to be "legit" when they can become even more illegal?

Excuse me, I have a question, if the casino happens to offer an implementation of placing the Monero coin, wouldn't they be totally solving the problem with KYC there? Monero gives a lot of privacy and anonymity, in fact it is the most used currency in the DeepWeb, how then could they detect those players who buy, play and withdraw with Monero? I know that each account would be being monitored by the platform, but in a bet in that currency, win or lose, would it be the same in the case of money, the problem is not only for Fiat money? That idea had occurred to me before, but under the circumstances, can't it be used as a defense mechanism for players?

Regulations are swords with two edges! Do we seek regulations from people we hate (governments and banks)?! Would we feel safer if we give a percent to "Uncle Sam"?

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Have you seen our latest youtube video?

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on May 26, 2021, 01:11:05 PM

Quote from: jostorres on May 17, 2021, 01:38:37 PM

Quote from: Furious 7 on May 15, 2021, 11:49:22 AM

What's wrong if the gambling site we use has implemented the KYC system for years, is it safe? Are you sure? I think this is fine because they also run the business seriously and want to do their users better so the implementation of KYC will not be a problem because this has become a new rule that must be implemented if we don't think it will be labeled illegal by the site for not following the FAQ.
Even if Wolfbet does it for me it won't be a problem.

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So the question remains, if the fiat ones are that brave, why the crypto ones are so eager to be "legit" when they can become even more illegal?

Excuse me, I have a question, if the casino happens to offer an implementation of placing the Monero coin, wouldn't they be totally solving the problem with KYC there? Monero gives a lot of privacy and anonymity, in fact it is the most used currency in the DeepWeb, how then could they detect those players who buy, play and withdraw with Monero? I know that each account would be being monitored by the platform, but in a bet in that currency, win or lose, would it be the same in the case of money, the problem is not only for Fiat money? That idea had occurred to me before, but under the circumstances, can't it be used as a defense mechanism for players?

Regulations are swords with two edges! Do we seek regulations from people we hate (governments and banks)?! Would we feel safer if we give a percent to "Uncle Sam"?

Quote from: janggernaut on May 21, 2021, 09:11:44 PM

Quote from: Applesoda on May 17, 2021, 05:17:12 AM

Have you seen our latest youtube video?

I just watched it now. There are 3 strategies from that video, first to hit 9000 profit on doges, 2nd and 3rd is trying to hit 1.3 btc. On first video, that user achieved the profit, but not in 2 and 3rd video, which he lose a lot of bitcoin because he chasing 100,000x multipler payout. Sometimes using autobet feature can make you rich instant and also can make you bankrupt so quick as well, it's not recommend for newbies IMO

Where do you watch that? Is there some link?! I would like to check those strategies?!

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Quote from: jostorres on May 17, 2021, 01:38:37 PM

Quote from: Furious 7 on May 15, 2021, 11:49:22 AM

What's wrong if the gambling site we use has implemented the KYC system for years, is it safe? Are you sure? I think this is fine because they also run the business seriously and want to do their users better so the implementation of KYC will not be a problem because this has become a new rule that must be implemented if we don't think it will be labeled illegal by the site for not following the FAQ.
Even if Wolfbet does it for me it won't be a problem.

I guess the only "down" side is that people may not want it. I get that the business world needs to become more legit and that's why they are doing stuff like this, there are other places that changed their system and doing it this way as well, there is really nothing that would be shocking if all places forced KYC from now on.

However when there are fiat gambling sportsbooks that I know which tries to find a way to not have any KYC at all, then the crypto ones do not make sense at all. You are literally sending money to some guys account in the fiat one, they could easily just rat you out or you could be found very easily, and you could be given a fine for that, whereas in crypto it is a lot easier to hide it. So the question remains, if the fiat ones are that brave, why the crypto ones are so eager to be "legit" when they can become even more illegal?

Excuse me, I have a question, if the casino happens to offer an implementation of placing the Monero coin, wouldn't they be totally solving the problem with KYC there? Monero gives a lot of privacy and anonymity, in fact it is the most used currency in the DeepWeb, how then could they detect those players who buy, play and withdraw with Monero? I know that each account would be being monitored by the platform, but in a bet in that currency, win or lose, would it be the same in the case of money, the problem is not only for Fiat money? That idea had occurred to me before, but under the circumstances, can't it be used as a defense mechanism for players?

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Quote from: Applesoda on May 17, 2021, 05:17:12 AM

Have you seen our latest youtube video?

I just watched it now. There are 3 strategies from that video, first to hit 9000 profit on doges, 2nd and 3rd is trying to hit 1.3 btc. On first video, that user achieved the profit, but not in 2 and 3rd video, which he lose a lot of bitcoin because he chasing 100,000x multipler payout. Sometimes using autobet feature can make you rich instant and also can make you bankrupt so quick as well, it's not recommend for newbies IMO

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Quote from: Furious 7 on May 15, 2021, 11:49:22 AM

What's wrong if the gambling site we use has implemented the KYC system for years, is it safe? Are you sure? I think this is fine because they also run the business seriously and want to do their users better so the implementation of KYC will not be a problem because this has become a new rule that must be implemented if we don't think it will be labeled illegal by the site for not following the FAQ.
Even if Wolfbet does it for me it won't be a problem.

I guess the only "down" side is that people may not want it. I get that the business world needs to become more legit and that's why they are doing stuff like this, there are other places that changed their system and doing it this way as well, there is really nothing that would be shocking if all places forced KYC from now on.

However when there are fiat gambling sportsbooks that I know which tries to find a way to not have any KYC at all, then the crypto ones do not make sense at all. You are literally sending money to some guys account in the fiat one, they could easily just rat you out or you could be found very easily, and you could be given a fine for that, whereas in crypto it is a lot easier to hide it. So the question remains, if the fiat ones are that brave, why the crypto ones are so eager to be "legit" when they can become even more illegal?

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Quote from: Haunebu on May 17, 2021, 10:11:54 AM

Quote from: Furious 7 on May 15, 2021, 11:49:22 AM

What's wrong if the gambling site we use has implemented the KYC system for years, is it safe? Are you sure? I think this is fine because they also run the business seriously and want to do their users better so the implementation of KYC will not be a problem because this has become a new rule that must be implemented if we don't think it will be labeled illegal by the site for not following the FAQ.
Even if Wolfbet does it for me it won't be a problem.

It isn't a problem for you, but it will be a problem for many people including me who prefer staying anonymous on crypto gambling sites. I don't gamble on Roobet anymore primarily because of this issue.

The main advantage of crypto gambling sites is the ability to gamble anonymously. If this advantage disappears, this makes them far less appealing in my opinion.

Indeed, most people who like to gamble in crypto want their identities to be anonymous and many things have happened if most of the KYC is not applied to the platform, even if there are people who are fanatical about KYC, of course he will leave him looking for other options because there are still many gambling site that provides no KYC and this is free for anyone who plays there.

I admit this has become your decision and after leaving roobet because the KYC system is not a big problem for you, including Wolfbet, I think they will try to be anonymous in the future.

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Quote from: Furious 7 on May 15, 2021, 11:49:22 AM

What's wrong if the gambling site we use has implemented the KYC system for years, is it safe? Are you sure? I think this is fine because they also run the business seriously and want to do their users better so the implementation of KYC will not be a problem because this has become a new rule that must be implemented if we don't think it will be labeled illegal by the site for not following the FAQ.
Even if Wolfbet does it for me it won't be a problem.

It isn't a problem for you, but it will be a problem for many people including me who prefer staying anonymous on crypto gambling sites. I don't gamble on Roobet anymore primarily because of this issue.

The main advantage of crypto gambling sites is the ability to gamble anonymously. If this advantage disappears, this makes them far less appealing in my opinion.

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Quote from: Furious 7 on May 15, 2021, 11:49:22 AM

Quote from: arwin100 on May 13, 2021, 06:59:37 AM

If they don't comply they will became illegal so people should really look at it as good basis and we are seeing Wolfbet doing good about this business so we should trust them since for sure there's valid reason on why they implement that, If they are not comfortable on it better they play on casino who doesn't require KYC but mostly those casino who doesn't have that are small casino which we don't know if they are legitimate and will not scam our money.

What's wrong if the gambling site we use has implemented the KYC system for years, is it safe? Are you sure? I think this is fine because they also run the business seriously and want to do their users better so the implementation of KYC will not be a problem because this has become a new rule that must be implemented if we don't think it will be labeled illegal by the site for not following the FAQ.
Even if Wolfbet does it for me it won't be a problem.

I understand the sentiment of others about this implementation since I myself is skeptical on providing my details to any platform but also I understand that sometimes we need to provide it to continuously avail some services or others, so we should be selective on this we will not get a problem if we go on good platforms like wolfbet.

But eventhough how good they if others don't feel to provide their details better they should stay out since gaining stress for worrying about this is totally not good.

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Quote from: arwin100 on May 13, 2021, 06:59:37 AM

If they don't comply they will became illegal so people should really look at it as good basis and we are seeing Wolfbet doing good about this business so we should trust them since for sure there's valid reason on why they implement that, If they are not comfortable on it better they play on casino who doesn't require KYC but mostly those casino who doesn't have that are small casino which we don't know if they are legitimate and will not scam our money.

What's wrong if the gambling site we use has implemented the KYC system for years, is it safe? Are you sure? I think this is fine because they also run the business seriously and want to do their users better so the implementation of KYC will not be a problem because this has become a new rule that must be implemented if we don't think it will be labeled illegal by the site for not following the FAQ.
Even if Wolfbet does it for me it won't be a problem.

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I would like to tell everyone that support at wolf.bet is excellent as I recall an incident recently that happened with me. So basically I was betting and managed to win a good amount and even reach the VIP I think master level. Then as I went to the withdraw page but there I was asked to enable 2FA before I can withdraw and I thought like no problem let's do it.

Now once I went to the 2FA page, the image (QR code) was just not loading for me and I contacted live support and talked to him like a mad man because he was unable to understand what actually happened and I was a little frustrated. He remained polite and guided me to enter the code manually as it was given nearby the broken image. I even apologized to him later so it was all good, but a really nice memory for me which I wanted to share.

So really nice support but please fix the 2FA thing if not already

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Quote from: arwin100 on May 13, 2021, 06:59:37 AM

If they don't comply they will became illegal so people should really look at it as good basis and we are seeing Wolfbet doing good about this business so we should trust them since for sure there's valid reason on why they implement that, If they are not comfortable on it better they play on casino who doesn't require KYC but mostly those casino who doesn't have that are small casino which we don't know if they are legitimate and will not scam our money.

They won't become illegal just because they do not ask KYC, it is a crypto website, you can literally keep it as anon as it gets, nobody needs to know who you are and who owns the website and the worst thing any government can do would be to block access from their nation to wolf.bet and that's it.

Plus, there are soooo many places that allow you to start headquarters and basically do anything illegal you want, there are literal mafia bosses that kill people who have headquarters stationed there, they never really go there but the hq is there for legal reasons, if a terrible person can do that, and if trillions of dollars was stolen from tax payers and sent to panama by corporations, I do not see how a casino could not just stay anon and be registered in some island off humanity somewhere and just not ask KYC. Obviously that is work and I understand why they may not do it, but it is not impossible neither.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on May 12, 2021, 07:38:23 PM

Quote from: sana54210 on May 12, 2021, 04:46:18 PM

Quote from: beerlover on May 11, 2021, 03:51:55 PM

the decentralization of the crypto world versus the centralization of what governments require clash and that causes all this chaos. When you are an unregulated casino that only has like a curacao license or maybe not even a license, you are at risk of both doing something illegal and also not getting any trust from any gambler in that position as well. Whereas if you do get a license and register as a casino and pay your taxes from it, then it means you have to ask KYC eventually as well.

So casinos do not really know what to do, some do require KYC and some don't and some only require it in certain cases and so forth but there is really no right answer. The correct answer for many is "do KYC and apply with law no matter what gamblers say" because that way at least you are doing something legit but that will come with some bad taste.

There was a point back before 2017 hype was created where the crypto world was all about "fuck the system" type of people, it was filled with those people and that was the reason why I joined crypto world as well because I hated banking and I hated the government of my nation and I wanted to come here and change something.

Over the course of years more and more regulations came, it was received great because we were no longer doing something illegal, it wasn't technically illegal before but it wasn't legal neither, it wasn't a law and it was uncertain what we were doing, so making it legal and regulated became popular here and many new people joined because of that which increased the price, first it was 20k in 2017 and now we peaked at 64k this year. However during that road we forgot that "fuck the system" ways and now people are seeing these KYC stuff as something that should be followed.

This is a delicate issue, because on the one hand there is the legal basis of the casino and if the casino wants to grow it must comply with the regulations, the licenses give much more freedom for the casino to grow more, but the only restriction is that it falls within the theme of "KYC" And already that way many players leave, and it is understandable, nobody likes to leave their data, if the basis is all so that they can play with more freedom, and for that cryptocurrencies were also created.

The downside is that many see it as an obligation to comply with the KYC, but there will come a time when there will be no casinos that do not require KYC, and those that do not ask will not have the trust of authentic and reputable sites.

If they don't comply they will became illegal so people should really look at it as good basis and we are seeing Wolfbet doing good about this business so we should trust them since for sure there's valid reason on why they implement that, If they are not comfortable on it better they play on casino who doesn't require KYC but mostly those casino who doesn't have that are small casino which we don't know if they are legitimate and will not scam our money.

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Quote from: sana54210 on May 12, 2021, 04:46:18 PM

Quote from: beerlover on May 11, 2021, 03:51:55 PM

the decentralization of the crypto world versus the centralization of what governments require clash and that causes all this chaos. When you are an unregulated casino that only has like a curacao license or maybe not even a license, you are at risk of both doing something illegal and also not getting any trust from any gambler in that position as well. Whereas if you do get a license and register as a casino and pay your taxes from it, then it means you have to ask KYC eventually as well.

So casinos do not really know what to do, some do require KYC and some don't and some only require it in certain cases and so forth but there is really no right answer. The correct answer for many is "do KYC and apply with law no matter what gamblers say" because that way at least you are doing something legit but that will come with some bad taste.

There was a point back before 2017 hype was created where the crypto world was all about "fuck the system" type of people, it was filled with those people and that was the reason why I joined crypto world as well because I hated banking and I hated the government of my nation and I wanted to come here and change something.

Over the course of years more and more regulations came, it was received great because we were no longer doing something illegal, it wasn't technically illegal before but it wasn't legal neither, it wasn't a law and it was uncertain what we were doing, so making it legal and regulated became popular here and many new people joined because of that which increased the price, first it was 20k in 2017 and now we peaked at 64k this year. However during that road we forgot that "fuck the system" ways and now people are seeing these KYC stuff as something that should be followed.

This is a delicate issue, because on the one hand there is the legal basis of the casino and if the casino wants to grow it must comply with the regulations, the licenses give much more freedom for the casino to grow more, but the only restriction is that it falls within the theme of "KYC" And already that way many players leave, and it is understandable, nobody likes to leave their data, if the basis is all so that they can play with more freedom, and for that cryptocurrencies were also created.

The downside is that many see it as an obligation to comply with the KYC, but there will come a time when there will be no casinos that do not require KYC, and those that do not ask will not have the trust of authentic and reputable sites.

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Quote from: beerlover on May 11, 2021, 03:51:55 PM

the decentralization of the crypto world versus the centralization of what governments require clash and that causes all this chaos. When you are an unregulated casino that only has like a curacao license or maybe not even a license, you are at risk of both doing something illegal and also not getting any trust from any gambler in that position as well. Whereas if you do get a license and register as a casino and pay your taxes from it, then it means you have to ask KYC eventually as well.

So casinos do not really know what to do, some do require KYC and some don't and some only require it in certain cases and so forth but there is really no right answer. The correct answer for many is "do KYC and apply with law no matter what gamblers say" because that way at least you are doing something legit but that will come with some bad taste.

There was a point back before 2017 hype was created where the crypto world was all about "fuck the system" type of people, it was filled with those people and that was the reason why I joined crypto world as well because I hated banking and I hated the government of my nation and I wanted to come here and change something.

Over the course of years more and more regulations came, it was received great because we were no longer doing something illegal, it wasn't technically illegal before but it wasn't legal neither, it wasn't a law and it was uncertain what we were doing, so making it legal and regulated became popular here and many new people joined because of that which increased the price, first it was 20k in 2017 and now we peaked at 64k this year. However during that road we forgot that "fuck the system" ways and now people are seeing these KYC stuff as something that should be followed.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on May 10, 2021, 07:49:20 PM

I see this from a point of view where I understand the casinos that for the most part do not want to require KYC, but if they do not comply with the regulations they can be in danger of even closing or having to go to court, a money laundering accusation or another thing is not pleasant.

I have not heard of any popular crypto gambling site that got closed down due to not enforcing mandatory KYC so far primarily because it's not that easy for authorities to screw them over.

These sites smartly allow gamblers only from countries where these risks are minimal. For example, a scam site like 1xbit is still operating currently without any sort of mandatory KYC requirement.

Quote from: beerlover on May 11, 2021, 03:51:55 PM

The correct answer for many is "do KYC and apply with law no matter what gamblers say" because that way at least you are doing something legit but that will come with some bad taste.

Actually, the correct answer for many is to include KYC in the TOS and only enforce it when they detect something shady or if a huge amount is being withdrawn.

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Quote from: asrinur on May 10, 2021, 08:41:29 PM

the basic idea of crypto is that there is no attachment to central power, which decides everything in a community is a member of the community itself. Of course this is still a problem today, and KYC is not really a pleasant solution for some people. Especially gambling players.

That is the key point here, the decentralization of the crypto world versus the centralization of what governments require clash and that causes all this chaos. When you are an unregulated casino that only has like a curacao license or maybe not even a license, you are at risk of both doing something illegal and also not getting any trust from any gambler in that position as well. Whereas if you do get a license and register as a casino and pay your taxes from it, then it means you have to ask KYC eventually as well.

So casinos do not really know what to do, some do require KYC and some don't and some only require it in certain cases and so forth but there is really no right answer. The correct answer for many is "do KYC and apply with law no matter what gamblers say" because that way at least you are doing something legit but that will come with some bad taste.

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