So please, stop wasting my time and start the real discussion.
You are about as genuine as a virgin in a whorehouse.Still, not on topic.
Anyway, I don't really care about your opinion.
Topic: Wondering out loud: Which should Chinese miners support - Core, Classic or another? - page 22. (Read 38029 times)
January 29, 2016, 10:40:22 AM
Hahahaha, that was actually a funny one.
Still, not on topic.
Anyway, I don't really care about your opinion.
January 29, 2016, 10:37:49 AM
Core is now producing code that fails to reach broad consensus. They want to keep the blockchain small so more nodes can be easily run on the network but more and more people DON'T want you use their code anymore. The very reason why alternate implementation are pumping up. Ironic isn't it?
Core devs refuse ANY compromise to achieve consensus. They don't care to drive people and businesses away as long as bitcoin still fit in their business model. All this must be good for adoption and miners future revenue no?
I still don't get why miners don't see blockstream trying to offload transactions on their systems as a threat to their profits when the subsidy will dry out.
Somehow, Blockstream thinks that driving transactions up to a point that the blockchain becomes uneconomical (high fees not driven by competition) and unreliable to use (not sure if your transactions will make it through) is a good idea for anyone to build businesses on top of it. The bitcoin blockchain is not the only one in town.
Core devs refuse ANY compromise to achieve consensus. They don't care to drive people and businesses away as long as bitcoin still fit in their business model. All this must be good for adoption and miners future revenue no?
I still don't get why miners don't see blockstream trying to offload transactions on their systems as a threat to their profits when the subsidy will dry out.
Somehow, Blockstream thinks that driving transactions up to a point that the blockchain becomes uneconomical (high fees not driven by competition) and unreliable to use (not sure if your transactions will make it through) is a good idea for anyone to build businesses on top of it. The bitcoin blockchain is not the only one in town.
January 29, 2016, 10:37:03 AM
So please, stop wasting my time and start the real discussion.
You are about as genuine as a virgin in a whorehouse.
January 29, 2016, 10:35:34 AM
cryptographer, privacy enhancing tech, ecash, inventor of hashcash (bitcoin is hashcash extended with inflation control)
Well - I think perhaps this is not really the main point that the Chinese are interested in.
If good old Gavin's ego wasn't just as big then why would he be dancing between one fork or another just to try and rest control back to himself?
Wresting control is not possible by any developer. Developers write code, create feature sets. Users choose distributions based upon feature sets. There is no wresting here - Bitcoin is about choice and freewill, enforced by value being decided by the economic majority.
If you really believe that it's possible to wrest control of Bitcoin then it has already failed.
January 29, 2016, 10:35:16 AM
So no matter how old I will be, I will never "grow up".
Fine - "Peter Pan" - just don't expect "the adults" to bother talking with you (and please stop trying to lecture them as they don't appreciate it from your "dumb ass")I have provided plenty of logical arguments of which all your posts are lacking.
So seriously, what kind of discussion do you expect with me ? When discussing with me:
- Stay strictly on topic (I perceive straying off topic as a manipulative & defensive tactic)
- Use logic
- Use factual arguments
So please, stop wasting my time and start the real discussion.
January 29, 2016, 10:33:47 AM
Overall, there seems to be a sense of helplessness. Some reflected on why the Chinese had so little say in the matter and some urge that the Chinese should form their own core development team and create their own fork.
Hi Eric,
What do you think about the Classic implementation? What does chinese miners think about it?
Many Chinese Bitcoiners - not only miners, but also exchanges and wallet services, originally supported Classic for its support of 2MB block size, but after meeting Jeff Garzik in Beijing, many backtracked because they didn't believe that the team behind is capable or there is a roadmap.
That's weired. Jeff Garzik and Gavin Andresen would be some of the best team leaders in the world.
It will be interesting to see the adoption Classic gets after the first release in a few hours.
January 29, 2016, 10:32:06 AM
I will repeat this once more, for posterity:
Saying that "bitcoin is hashcash extended with inflation control" is exactly like saying that "car is just horse carriage extended with combustion engine"
A person who said such thing must have HUGE ego problems.
The source of the quote:
https://twitter.com/adam3us
Mirror in case he changes it:
Saying that "bitcoin is hashcash extended with inflation control" is exactly like saying that "car is just horse carriage extended with combustion engine"
A person who said such thing must have HUGE ego problems.
The source of the quote:
https://twitter.com/adam3us
Mirror in case he changes it:
January 29, 2016, 10:29:46 AM
cryptographer, privacy enhancing tech, ecash, inventor of hashcash (bitcoin is hashcash extended with inflation control)
Well - I think perhaps this is not really the main point that the Chinese are interested in.
If good old Gavin's ego wasn't just as big then why would he be dancing between one fork or another just to try and rest control back to himself?
Gavin has been pretty vocal in saying he will help contribute code to pretty much anyone trying to improve Bitcoin. I don't see anything wrong with that. If he thought 1MB was best and was contributing code there you wouldn't have the same complaint. Let's not demonize Gavin, that's not the argument.
January 29, 2016, 10:29:25 AM
So no matter how old I will be, I will never "grow up".
Fine - "Peter Pan" - just don't expect "the adults" to bother talking with you (and please stop trying to lecture them as they don't appreciate it from your "dumb ass").
I don't user Twitter (which shows you are not as old as me straight away).
January 29, 2016, 10:28:57 AM
I will repeat it once more:
Saying that "bitcoin is hashcash extended with inflation control" is exactly like saying that "car is just horse carriage extended with combustion engine"
A person who said such thing must have HUGE ego problems.
Saying that "bitcoin is hashcash extended with inflation control" is exactly like saying that "car is just horse carriage extended with combustion engine"
A person who said such thing must have HUGE ego problems.
Yet - you do not provide the original source of the quote.
Hmm.. just an asshole or what?
(a "real man" doesn't resort to quoting secondary quotes and then using large fonts to make his point which is seemingly exactly what you do)
I hope twitter is working for you ?
https://twitter.com/adam3us
January 29, 2016, 10:27:45 AM
cryptographer, privacy enhancing tech, ecash, inventor of hashcash (bitcoin is hashcash extended with inflation control)
Well - I think perhaps this is not really the main point that the Chinese are interested in.
If good old Gavin's ego wasn't just as big then why would he be dancing between one fork or another just to try and rest control back to himself?
January 29, 2016, 10:26:21 AM
You are so naive and have completely no understanding of the topic you are discussing. It would be a waste of time.
Personally I think your parents should have taught you better than to try and lecture your elders about "being naive" but seemingly they didn't (perhaps your parents were not educated at all?).
You don't know everything about the person on the other side of the monitor.
You don't. I am not a young person.
So unfortunately you have a bit of a problem in even knowing how to be polite (apart from not knowing when you are wrong).
I am full aware that I am not very polite on the internet.But with age & experience, I found out that it works better (most of the time) than being too polite.
We'll wait and see if you can ever "grow up" (but I doubt it).
I have my years, but already decided that I will not grow up. Never.I have seen over the years that "growing up" too often means just agreeing with establishment and pretending that "everything is OK" while it is far from it.
So no matter how old I will be, I will never "grow up".
January 29, 2016, 10:24:34 AM
Link for the lazy. https://twitter.com/adam3us
I don't see it - can you just provide the *exact link* or not?
Check under his picture, under his name.. We can't direct link to that.
Adam Back
@adam3us
cryptographer, privacy enhancing tech, ecash, inventor of hashcash (bitcoin is hashcash extended with inflation control)
January 29, 2016, 10:23:23 AM
Link for the lazy. https://twitter.com/adam3us
I don't see it - can you just provide the *exact link* or not?
January 29, 2016, 10:21:44 AM
I will repeat it once more:
Saying that "bitcoin is hashcash extended with inflation control" is exactly like saying that "car is just horse carriage extended with combustion engine"
A person who said such thing must have HUGE ego problems.
Saying that "bitcoin is hashcash extended with inflation control" is exactly like saying that "car is just horse carriage extended with combustion engine"
A person who said such thing must have HUGE ego problems.
Yet - you do not provide the original source of the quote.
Hmm.. just an asshole or what?
Link for the lazy. https://twitter.com/adam3us
January 29, 2016, 10:21:08 AM
I will repeat it once more:
Saying that "bitcoin is hashcash extended with inflation control" is exactly like saying that "car is just horse carriage extended with combustion engine"
A person who said such thing must have HUGE ego problems.
Saying that "bitcoin is hashcash extended with inflation control" is exactly like saying that "car is just horse carriage extended with combustion engine"
A person who said such thing must have HUGE ego problems.
Yet - you do not provide the original source of the quote.
Hmm.. just an asshole or what?
If you're referring to the quote "hashcash with extended inflation control," it's on Adam Back's twitter profile...
January 29, 2016, 10:20:10 AM
I will repeat it once more:
Saying that "bitcoin is hashcash extended with inflation control" is exactly like saying that "car is just horse carriage extended with combustion engine"
A person who said such thing must have HUGE ego problems.
Saying that "bitcoin is hashcash extended with inflation control" is exactly like saying that "car is just horse carriage extended with combustion engine"
A person who said such thing must have HUGE ego problems.
Yet - you do not provide the original source of the quote.
Hmm.. just an asshole or what?
(a "real man" doesn't resort to quoting secondary quotes and then using large fonts to make his point which is seemingly exactly what you do)
January 29, 2016, 10:18:54 AM
Yes, but that happened in 1997. 11 years passed before someone figured out how to use it and invent Bitcoin - the fact that he takes credit for inventing Bitcoin in this manner shows insights into the level of ego we are talking about.
Please quote where he does (I remember from when he joined this forum after me that he said in his sig that he invented Hashcash but not Bitcoin).
So "I'm calling bullshit".
"cryptographer, privacy enhancing tech, ecash, inventor of hashcash (bitcoin is hashcash extended with inflation control)"
Bitcoin is far more than hashcash+
I will repeat it once more:
Saying that "bitcoin is hashcash extended with inflation control" is exactly like saying that "car is just horse carriage extended with combustion engine"
A person who said such thing must have HUGE ego problems.
January 29, 2016, 10:14:15 AM
You are so naive and have completely no understanding of the topic you are discussing. It would be a waste of time.
Personally I think your parents should have taught you better than to try and lecture your elders about "being naive" but seemingly they didn't (perhaps your parents were not educated at all?).
So unfortunately you have a bit of a problem in even knowing how to be polite (apart from not knowing when you are wrong).
We'll wait and see if you can ever "grow up" (but I doubt it).
January 29, 2016, 10:12:01 AM
Are you actually serious, or is this some form of sophisticated propaganda ?
It seems rather obvious that you are in fact part of some sort of sophisticated propaganda.
I don't think I care to bother with you any more (so please stop wasting my time with your stupid replies).
You are so naive and have completely no understanding of the topic you are discussing. It would be a waste of time.
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