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zefir had some extra chips so I ordered another 10 chips, how do I instruct zefir to route these 10 to you burnin?

thanks also major kudos on doing this for us.

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zefir had some extra chips so I ordered another 10 chips, how do I instruct zefir to route these 10 to you burnin?

thanks also major kudos on doing this for us.
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Well done. Interesting choice of cabling! they do look a bit to hard for testing boards? Cant you easily rip the connections with these?
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Yes these would be absolutely perfect and i intend to use these for the next generation.
The BFL chips would require a lot more development because of the flip-chip package.



Can't wait for the bitfury boards! :X
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Thanks for the incredibly great job! Keep going!
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ok here we go:


burnin, do you plan on posting scope traces of actual Avalon signals?
Highly interested in the REPORT_x timing for starters.

And you are brave to dead bug a QFN48, hats off for that:)

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..yeah
anyone thinks this would be a bad solution for a custom watercooling block?



of course the last row of chips will be the hottest this way, but you could switch exit1 with 4, so the hot output stream will be next to the cold input, therefore cooling more equal. Plate is 25mm (could go down to 20, maybe less) and holes are 10mm

Of course it can be scaled down, because 20watt don't need that much waterflow. I'm just trying to find a good working and easy to make cooler Smiley
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Hi burnin,

do you have any plans on testing the bitfury chips? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2407907

Best regards,
Micky

Yes these would be absolutely perfect and i intend to use these for the next generation.
The BFL chips would require a lot more development because of the flip-chip package.


Awsome news! Smiley
I think I will buy some chips via groupbuy... do you have any idea how much chips per board will needed?

Some people say 4, some people say only one and doesn't depends on maximum sockets - I think it depends on the individual pcb design -  in this case, do you have any plans?

(I know you have a lot of work to do, but this is very interesting - hope also I can order my bitburner XX soon Wink )

Maybe there could be things like these:

BitBurner X V2 (bitfury edition)
10 x 5 GH/s = 50 GH/s

BitBurner XX V2
20 x 5 GH/s = 100 GH/s

BitBurner XXL
xxx x 5 GH/s = xxxx GH/s

....cut
Then - for small to medium order amounts actual acquisition would be done to multiple locations using intermediaries who will do assembly, certification and will have end-user support for the devices. For bigger quantities it will be possible to get chips directly.
....cut

Perfect  Grin
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GR8 NEWS burnin!
I love you`r work. Photos are awesome.

Cant wait to order a pice.
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Hi burnin,

do you have any plans on testing the bitfury chips? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2407907

Best regards,
Micky

Yes these would be absolutely perfect and i intend to use these for the next generation.
The BFL chips would require a lot more development because of the flip-chip package.


Awsome news! Smiley
I think I will buy some chips via groupbuy... do you have any idea how much chips per board will needed?

Some people say 4, some people say only one and doesn't depends on maximum sockets - I think it depends on the individual pcb design -  in this case, do you have any plans?

(I know you have a lot of work to do, but this is very interesting - hope also I can order my bitburner XX soon Wink )
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10 Pin Ribbon cable is a quite common CAN-Cable when not used in automobiles or rough environments.
It has the right impedance, and i've included termination resistors on the board that need to be enabled on the Bus ends.

Perfect! That's what I was getting at...I'll STFU now. A major THANK YOU for working on this so hard!!    Grin
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Awesome work, Looks great Wink
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Nice one burnin, you're nailing it.
Just 2 questions:
 -Do you provide standoffs, or should i get them:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=234459.0
  And if so, how high should they be?
 -The CAN cable, do you provide, or must we build one? I searched for a DIY one but found no easy to do ones.

1. Standoffs are included .
2. The CAN cable can be ordered with the boards both in DIY-Kit form and completely assembled.
Well that does depend on both board and chips, but with overvolting those higher speeds might be more stable then in the originals.



Nice one burnin, you're nailing it.
Just 2 questions:
 -Do you provide standoffs, or should i get them:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=234459.0
  And if so, how high should they be?
 -The CAN cable, do you provide, or must we build one? I searched for a DIY one but found no easy to do ones.

The CAN cable is easy. Just ask for IDC Header 10 pin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6t8s_7eA0w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1yZKT3Yock
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/10-pin-idc-connector
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulation-displacement_connector


For short runs and/or slower speeds a flat ribbon cable may not pose issues on the bus. Having said that...

The CAN specification uses two wire twisted pair differential signaling. Since external interference tends to affect both wires together, and information is sent only by the difference between the wires, the technique improves resistance to electromagnetic noise compared with use of only one wire and an un-paired reference (ground).
I’m not sure what Burnin has on the board in regards to can, but in addition to using a twisted pair, a terminating resister should be placed at each end of the daisy-chain of devices. Again, short runs may get away without issues. When you are using High-Speed CAN, a resister is placed at each end, bridging the wire pair. The resisters bleed off residual line voltage (aka reflections). The resister value is 120 ohms, which matches the cable’s nominal impedance of 120 ohms.

Low-Speed CAN is designed to have a resister at each node, which comes along with the hassle of calculating the values for the resisters.

/no I have never done extensive work with CAN busses in cars/
//go BMW, they switched over to Ethernet/IP, makes interfacing so much simpler//


10 Pin Ribbon cable is a quite common CAN-Cable when not used in automobiles or rough environments.
It has the right impedance, and i've included termination resistors on the board that need to be enabled on the Bus ends.


Hi burnin,

do you have any plans on testing the bitfury chips? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2407907

Best regards,
Micky

Yes these would be absolutely perfect and i intend to use these for the next generation.
The BFL chips would require a lot more development because of the flip-chip package.


Thinking about posting a picture of the test rig, but it is a truly horrible mess of wires.
I don't want any of you to think the end-product could look even remotely similar to that thing.

Do it. come one. Do it.

ok here we go:

Whole test setup:


Test Jig:


The Microcontroller:


Size reference for the chip:

legendary
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Hi burnin,

do you have any plans on testing the bitfury chips? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2407907




Best regards,
Micky
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Nice one burnin, you're nailing it.
Just 2 questions:
 -Do you provide standoffs, or should i get them:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=234459.0
  And if so, how high should they be?
 -The CAN cable, do you provide, or must we build one? I searched for a DIY one but found no easy to do ones.

The CAN cable is easy. Just ask for IDC Header 10 pin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6t8s_7eA0w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1yZKT3Yock
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/10-pin-idc-connector
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulation-displacement_connector


For short runs and/or slower speeds a flat ribbon cable may not pose issues on the bus. Having said that...

The CAN specification uses two wire twisted pair differential signaling. Since external interference tends to affect both wires together, and information is sent only by the difference between the wires, the technique improves resistance to electromagnetic noise compared with use of only one wire and an un-paired reference (ground).
I’m not sure what Burnin has on the board in regards to can, but in addition to using a twisted pair, a terminating resister should be placed at each end of the daisy-chain of devices. Again, short runs may get away without issues. When you are using High-Speed CAN, a resister is placed at each end, bridging the wire pair. The resisters bleed off residual line voltage (aka reflections). The resister value is 120 ohms, which matches the cable’s nominal impedance of 120 ohms.

Low-Speed CAN is designed to have a resister at each node, which comes along with the hassle of calculating the values for the resisters.

/no I have never done extensive work with CAN busses in cars/
//go BMW, they switched over to Ethernet/IP, makes interfacing so much simpler//
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Nice one burnin, you're nailing it.
Just 2 questions:
 -Do you provide standoffs, or should i get them:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=234459.0
  And if so, how high should they be?
 -The CAN cable, do you provide, or must we build one? I searched for a DIY one but found no easy to do ones.

The CAN cable is easy. Just ask for IDC Header 10 pin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6t8s_7eA0w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1yZKT3Yock
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/10-pin-idc-connector
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulation-displacement_connector


Cant those cables be bought? I wouldnt like having to create such cables, buying the tools needed and so on.
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Nice one burnin, you're nailing it.
Just 2 questions:
 -Do you provide standoffs, or should i get them:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=234459.0
  And if so, how high should they be?
 -The CAN cable, do you provide, or must we build one? I searched for a DIY one but found no easy to do ones.

The CAN cable is easy. Just ask for IDC Header 10 pin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6t8s_7eA0w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1yZKT3Yock
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/10-pin-idc-connector
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulation-displacement_connector
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