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I'm curious what the fault was, was it unstable clock signal as suspected before or was it something more trivial, like wiring misstakes, software issues etc. ?

Would be fun to see pictures of the (now working) dead bug :-)

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Ok thank you guys for the input on the PSU matters, i'll seek out a few candidates and list them here.

Hi Burnin

Hows things coming along with the sample chips?


Chinese people seem to be much faster lol, well I hope you are working hard man... GJ


Finally a breakthrough today.
I got it running, tested my protocol implementation.

Status:
uplink chip interface - implementation done and verified
downlink chip interface - implementation done and verified
clock pll configuration - checked
nonce range division - checked
hash results - checked
glue chip interface and usb/can interface code together - work in progress

Hopefully that last step will be done when the prototype boards arrive.
(Scheduled for Friday)


Well done, a big thank you from all of us!
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Ok thank you guys for the input on the PSU matters, i'll seek out a few candidates and list them here.

Hi Burnin

Hows things coming along with the sample chips?


Chinese people seem to be much faster lol, well I hope you are working hard man... GJ


Finally a breakthrough today.
I got it running, tested my protocol implementation.

Status:
uplink chip interface - implementation done and verified
downlink chip interface - implementation done and verified
clock pll configuration - checked
nonce range division - checked
hash results - checked
glue chip interface and usb/can interface code together - work in progress

Hopefully that last step will be done when the prototype boards arrive.
(Scheduled for Friday)
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I got a fanless 460W SeaSonic Platinum one right now to run all btc-related stuff
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my 3 satoshi's to the PSU choose.
Please go with the most QUIET one, most of us will be running this equipment at home.
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Hello,

Im interested in BitBurnerXX, cant wait to see this little one working.  Grin

Ordering chips soon.

Thanks, keep up the good work!
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One of the best in terms of power, cost and reliability is the Antec HCG-900 which is very often $100 or less.
Antec HCG-900 review

bronze and all under 87%...that's really not good
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story3&reid=211

have a look here ( all gold or platinum and over 90%, > 500 watt), but search for reviews if you have chose one:
http://geizhals.de/?cat=gehps&xf=365_90~1119_80+PLUS+Platinum~1119_80+PLUS+Gold~360_500#xf_top

Sorry, but I can't stand misinformation. 80 PLUS Gold or Platinum does not guarantee anything except meeting efficiency. Even that is not as big a difference as you might think. Unless there is a significant difference in warranty between a company's 80 PLUS offerings; Bronze, Silver, Gold or Platinum are not going to magically be better just based on efficiency. Look at reviews, warranty, Watts/fiat and construction details for the best decision.

Example of a "not-so-good" 80PLUS GOLD PSU


because of that i have filtered the link with PSUs >90% and i said, that everyone has to look for reviews.... ;-)
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They are better because they take less power to provide a given power, but only at defined load levels.

EDIT: checked your link, in the long run it makes still a difference, and we are all using the PSU over longer periods of time

Yes they CAN be better, but just because it's Bronze does not make it inferior to Gold. That's my point. All things equal, get the best efficiency, obviously.
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They are better because they take less power to provide a given power, but only at defined load levels.

EDIT: checked your link, in the long run it makes still a difference, and we are all using the PSU over longer periods of time
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One of the best in terms of power, cost and reliability is the Antec HCG-900 which is very often $100 or less.
Antec HCG-900 review

bronze and all under 87%...that's really not good
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story3&reid=211

have a look here ( all gold or platinum and over 90%, > 500 watt), but search for reviews if you have chose one:
http://geizhals.de/?cat=gehps&xf=365_90~1119_80+PLUS+Platinum~1119_80+PLUS+Gold~360_500#xf_top

Sorry, but I can't stand misinformation. 80 PLUS Gold or Platinum does not guarantee anything except meeting efficiency. Even that is not as big a difference as you might think. Unless there is a significant difference in warranty between a company's 80 PLUS offerings; Bronze, Silver, Gold or Platinum are not going to magically be better just based on efficiency. Look at reviews, warranty, Watts/fiat and construction details for the best decision.

Example of a "not-so-good" 80PLUS GOLD PSU
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How many modules this one can do? I just bought it.

http://www.coolermaster.com/product/Detail/powersupply/silent-pro-m2/silent-pro-m2-720w.html

Input Voltage    90-264Vac (Auto Range)
Input Current    11 – 5.5A
Input Frequency Range    47 - 63Hz
PFC    Active PFC (>0.9)
Power Good Signal    100-500ms
Hold Up Time    >17ms
Efficiency    85% Typically
MTBF    100,000 Hours
Protection    OVP/UVP/OCP/OPP/OTP/SCP
Output Capacity    720W
Operation Temperature    0~40°C (Nominal Input Voltage)
Regulatory    TUV / CE / UL / FCC / BSMI / GOST / C-tick / KC / CCC
Fan    135mm Hydraulic Dynamic Bearings
Certifications    80 Plus Bronze
Connector    M/B 24 Pin Connector x 1
CPU 4+4 Pin x 1
PCI-E 6+2 Pin x 4
SATA x 9
4 Pin Peripheral x 5
4 Pin Floppy x 1

To be honest I have trouble understanding why ~2W/chip = ~40W/board x 15 = ~600W isn't good enough for mentioned PSU (720W).
Please note that in this case I am not asking to save money by choosing PSU with less efficiency certification standard (80 Plus Bronze in this case), but ask is it going to work.
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Hi Burnin

Hows things coming along with the sample chips?


Chinese people seem to be much faster lol, well I hope you are working hard man... GJ
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One of the best in terms of power, cost and reliability is the Antec HCG-900 which is very often $100 or less.
Antec HCG-900 review

Here is a good description of 80 PLUS and what it certifies.

However, for the best setup (IMHO) you would want a great performing, modular PSU I would think. Something similar to this Seasonic 850 would be "perfect". You would be able to plug in extra 6 pin connectors to the appropriate output from the PSU without need for adapters. Simply email the PSU company and inquire about extra connectors, many times you can get them for free - or a very low price. The trick will be finding the best optioned modular PSU to use for your setup.

bronze and all under 87%...that's really not good
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story3&reid=211

have a look here ( all gold or platinum and over 90%, > 500 watt), but search for reviews if you have chose one:
http://geizhals.de/?cat=gehps&xf=365_90~1119_80+PLUS+Platinum~1119_80+PLUS+Gold~360_500#xf_top
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Hi Burnin

Hows things coming along with the sample chips?
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One of the best in terms of power, cost and reliability is the Antec HCG-900 which is very often $100 or less.
Antec HCG-900 review

Here is a good description of 80 PLUS and what it certifies.

However, for the best setup (IMHO) you would want a great performing, modular PSU I would think. Something similar to this Seasonic 850 would be "perfect". You would be able to plug in extra 6 pin connectors to the appropriate output from the PSU without need for adapters. Simply email the PSU company and inquire about extra connectors, many times you can get them for free - or a very low price. The trick will be finding the best optioned modular PSU to use for your setup.
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I don't know if there's a limitation to 75W per PCI-e cable. In my case there would be ~120W per wiring. Do you have a source for the 75W limitation? I'll look into the PSU reference guide.
I have been searching on Google and the general consensus is that a 6pin PCI can easily handle 150W. The difference between the 75W 6 pin and 150W 8 pin is just 2 ground wires. Some people even put the 6pin cable into the 8 pin connector of a GPU without problems.


Correct, the specs of the connector state 13Amps per PIN.
Just check that the cable gauge connected to those pins is sufficient, but 150W should be possible with any of them.

So yes you can run 3 modules off one 6pin plug.


I think i'll go for a ~850W, gold rated, single rail PSU perfect for one tower of 16 modules.
  
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Hey burnin,

            While reading this thread I saw you are asking for advice on PSU's. Not all PSU's are, regardless of the output, the same. http://www.jonnyguru.com has reviewed over 300 PSU,s and is one of most knowledgeable testers I've seen. Here is a review on Corsair's HX850 boasted 80 Plus Silver http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=299 it's a good read.

          Enjoy, jesse11    

for this requirements i would take minimum 80plus gold or platinum PSUs with very good reviews. Therefore one should not make false economies or simply 'save the wrong way'. If you are planning to run the avalons 24/7 you should take a most efficient PSU what you can buy for your money.
you will say thanks to your electricity bill and of course it is not funny to have a mining break of some days if your cheap bought PSU has a damage and you need time to get a new one...


LOL, I was just using this as an example of the type of reviews done on that site. I personally own a Antec High Current Pro HCP-1200 1200W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Yes, High Current Hybrid Cable Management Active PFC Power Supply. I'm running a 3930K @ 4.2GHz 24/7 3-way SLI GTX 670's for my gaming and benchmarking rig and have 18 World Records at HWBot.  Grin  


i don't know what at my statement is to be lough about and i did not criticize anyone. read it again ;-)

and i'm sure you have the best equipment in the world...lol
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Hey burnin,

            While reading this thread I saw you are asking for advice on PSU's. Not all PSU's are, regardless of the output, the same. http://www.jonnyguru.com has reviewed over 300 PSU,s and is one of most knowledgeable testers I've seen. Here is a review on Corsair's HX850 boasted 80 Plus Silver http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=299 it's a good read.

          Enjoy, jesse11    

for this requirements i would take minimum 80plus gold or platinum PSUs with very good reviews. Therefore one should not make false economies or simply 'save the wrong way'. If you are planning to run the avalons 24/7 you should take a most efficient PSU what you can buy for your money.
you will say thanks to your electricity bill and of course it is not funny to have a mining break of some days if your cheap bought PSU has a damage and you need time to get a new one...


LOL, I was just using this as an example of the type of reviews done on that site. I personally own a Antec High Current Pro HCP-1200 1200W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Yes, High Current Hybrid Cable Management Active PFC Power Supply. I'm running a 3930K @ 4.2GHz 24/7 3-way SLI GTX 670's for my gaming and benchmarking rig and have 18 World Records at HWBot.  Grin  
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The OCZ PSU has 4 8pin connectors. So my configuration should be save and work.

Feel free to correct me.
You will have 12 boards of 40W = 480W
Your power supply can deliver 70A @ 12V = 840W
80% optimum power drain = 480W, so 100%=600W in stead of 840W.
So you could go for a smaller PSU maybe ?

That's right. But I think the efficiency of the PSU is better with a lower charging.
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The OCZ PSU has 4 8pin connectors. So my configuration should be save and work.

Feel free to correct me.
You will have 12 boards of 40W = 480W
Your power supply can deliver 70A @ 12V = 840W
80% optimum power drain = 480W, so 100%=600W in stead of 840W.
So you could go for a smaller PSU maybe ?
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