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Quote from: tarmi on September 16, 2013, 09:27:13 AM

Quote from: Micky25 on September 16, 2013, 09:13:47 AM

When I get all this right, Burnin stated his first price before Bitfury raised the price for their chips by 50%

for september delivery price per bitfury chip is 22.5 euros.

That is still only euro 360 for the chips. Let the board + assembly cost another Euro 120 - Euro 150 -
That's Euro 510 tops. How to you arrive at Euro 799 just for taking orders and shipping, and that price
is net of VAT and shipping costs. Cryptx wants to slap another Euro 289 just for that???

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Quote from: solari on September 16, 2013, 07:44:56 AM

refunding....

Don´t forget, you ordered a special product, only produced for you with your chips.
Burnin odered and payed all the things needed for the production, developed the board, worked hard day and night for months.

And now, you didn´t deliver the chips to him in time.

Why should he give you any refund? You did´t fullfill the contract.

Think about this.

no concerns about these special items. It is just burnins repeated statement of 70% refund which doesn't fit to cryptx statement.
And concerning all those parts, which are not made with the chips (including shipping) is the question.
Burnin stated refunding these in full. There should be a clear statement from cryptx, too.

cheers

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Quote from: Micky25 on September 16, 2013, 09:13:47 AM

When I get all this right, Burnin stated his first price before Bitfury raised the price for their chips by 50%

for september delivery price per bitfury chip is 22.5 euros.

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Quote from: Micky25 on September 16, 2013, 09:13:47 AM

When I get all this right, Burnin stated his first price before Bitfury raised the price for their chips by 50%

I don't think so.

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When I get all this right, Burnin stated his first price before Bitfury raised the price for their chips by 50%

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Quote from: solari on September 16, 2013, 07:44:56 AM

refunding....

Don´t forget, you ordered a special product, only produced for you with your chips.
Burnin odered and payed all the things needed for the production, developed the board, worked hard day and night for months.

And now, you didn´t deliver the chips to him in time.

Why should he give you any refund? You did´t fullfill the contract.

Think about this.

I'm not even complaining about any of his refund conditions. Even if I was, I am aware that I really couldn't do much about it. I just don't like when when someone says one thing and then does something else and I want clarification whether that is the case here or not.

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Quote from: solari on September 16, 2013, 07:44:56 AM

Why should he give you any refund? You did´t fullfill the contract.

Even the shipping fee?

solari

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refunding....

Don´t forget, you ordered a special product, only produced for you with your chips.
Burnin odered and payed all the things needed for the production, developed the board, worked hard day and night for months.

And now, you didn´t deliver the chips to him in time.

Why should he give you any refund? You did´t fullfill the contract.

Think about this.

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Quote from: Taugeran on September 15, 2013, 05:20:45 PM

Quote from: Unacceptable on September 15, 2013, 05:13:12 PM

Quote from: RicRock on September 15, 2013, 03:52:50 PM

So a NanoFury USB stick appears to be a better deal for US anyway.

0.4BTC for 2 gh/s = 0.2 BTC/Gh/s = 5 GH/s/BTC

or is my math wrong?

That .4BTC is for ASSEMBLY ONLY..........NO CHIP Wink

"stage 1: Pre-order at 0.4BTC per NF1 device or 0.2BTC per device for assembly-only service. Closes Oct 1."

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-nanofury-nf1-usb-stick-group-buy-product-assembly-291456

Reread that very carefully....

Yes I am

& asking for verification from VS3 as well Wink

DO NOT BUY THESE,I need mine first Cheesy

Sorry for the derail Sad

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Quote from: cerebellum on September 15, 2013, 03:56:10 PM

Quote from: burnin on August 29, 2013, 08:46:09 PM

More details on the refunds:
Shipping - 100%
VAT - will be calculated and refunded partially
Power supplies - 100%
BitBurner Boards - 50%
Stacking Cables - 50%

New thread for BitFury related questions: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=283992.new#new

Does this still hold up, or did burnin decide to go back on his word and take the entire order as the calculation basis?

The wording from the cryptx newsletter sounds a lot like this is the case.

Quote

50% Refund of your entire order by mid-October

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Quote from: mmitech on September 15, 2013, 05:16:07 PM

Quote from: burnin on September 15, 2013, 05:10:41 PM

i had the chips running at 4ghash in my test setup.
With a proper board more could be possible, more testing is needed.
And like i said the actual costs did increase.

Burnin I really respect your hard work and amount of time and energy you puted from the start on developing, but with all due respect this is a total rip-off, they have to work out their prices for what is best for all parties, otherwise we are not going to do business with them

Burnin, just a thought but isn't the answer here to let free market competition police the pricing?

Have you agreed exclusivity to CryptX or are you open to other distributors provided they can meet minimum volumes?

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Quote from: Unacceptable on September 15, 2013, 05:13:12 PM

Quote from: RicRock on September 15, 2013, 03:52:50 PM

So a NanoFury USB stick appears to be a better deal for US anyway.

0.4BTC for 2 gh/s = 0.2 BTC/Gh/s = 5 GH/s/BTC

or is my math wrong?

That .4BTC is for ASSEMBLY ONLY..........NO CHIP Wink

"stage 1: Pre-order at 0.4BTC per NF1 device or 0.2BTC per device for assembly-only service. Closes Oct 1."

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-nanofury-nf1-usb-stick-group-buy-product-assembly-291456

Reread that very carefully....

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What about the 70% refund? It seems that cryptx will only pay 50%. You said you need some weeks to check your inventory to see what you can reuse, whats the status about that?

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Quote from: burnin on September 15, 2013, 05:10:41 PM

i had the chips running at 4ghash in my test setup.
With a proper board more could be possible, more testing is needed.
And like i said the actual costs did increase.

Burnin I really respect your hard work and amount of time and energy you puted from the start on developing, but with all due respect this is a total rip-off, they have to work out their prices for what is best for all parties, otherwise we are not going to do business with them

Unacceptable

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Quote from: RicRock on September 15, 2013, 03:52:50 PM

So a NanoFury USB stick appears to be a better deal for US anyway.

0.4BTC for 2 gh/s = 0.2 BTC/Gh/s = 5 GH/s/BTC

or is my math wrong?

That .4BTC is for ASSEMBLY ONLY..........NO CHIP Wink

"stage 1: Pre-order at 0.4BTC per NF1 device or 0.2BTC per device for assembly-only service. Closes Oct 1."

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-nanofury-nf1-usb-stick-group-buy-product-assembly-291456

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i had the chips running at 4ghash in my test setup.
With a proper board more could be possible, more testing is needed.
And like i said the actual costs did increase.

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Thanks Burnin, I understand that companies only exist to make money, but the difference between your estimations and the actual price is massive!

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Quote from: mmitech on September 15, 2013, 05:07:01 PM

Quote from: burnin on September 15, 2013, 05:02:01 PM

The 470eur was an early estimate, part costs increased as the design continued.
I am not involved in the pricing of the BitBurner Fury units, i kept my margin reasonable as usual.
I will speak to them if costs at their end can be cut.

yes but to add 229 € is a bit strange, and how come they state 40-80 GH/s, this is out of all logical scopes

Useless advertising at 80GH/s if they got it max to 64GH/s.

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Quote from: burnin on September 15, 2013, 05:02:01 PM

The 470eur was an early estimate, part costs increased as the design continued.
I am not involved in the pricing of the BitBurner Fury units, i kept my margin reasonable as usual.
I will speak to them if costs at their end can be cut.

yes but to add 229 € is a bit strange, and how come they state 40-80 GH/s, this is out of all logical scopes

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The 470eur was an early estimate, part costs increased as the design continued.
I am not involved in the pricing of the BitBurner Fury units, i kept my margin reasonable as usual.
I will speak to them if costs at their end can be cut.

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