[Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service - page 36.

shapemaker

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Quote from: iikun on September 17, 2013, 07:59:58 AM

Quote from: shapemaker on September 16, 2013, 05:10:41 PM

Quote from: bulltrap on September 16, 2013, 04:41:39 PM

Quote from: AMD FTW on September 16, 2013, 04:16:09 PM

Burnin is a busy guy with everything that's going on. What I will say is don't assume they'll be only 1 distributor and also keep in mind that Burnin does appreciate all the small miners and knows to look out for their best interests.

Burnin will post eventually in here,so Now seriously stop hitting the F5 Key.

Do you have some info on this or are you just guessing?

He is not just guessing.

I'm intrigued as to this meaning. Would either of you pls elaborate a little more? You might not be able to tell us everything in public, but more detail would be greatly welcomed.

I'm sorry, I was asked to not divulge certain things in public, so that is what I do. Let's just say that people should stay calm and carry on. Burnin is quite busy at the moment I'd guess.

It bears mentioning again that burnin is not responsible for the price that cryptx demands for the boards. Direct all the fan mail at cryptx, not burnin.

iikun

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Quote from: shapemaker on September 16, 2013, 05:10:41 PM

Quote from: bulltrap on September 16, 2013, 04:41:39 PM

Quote from: AMD FTW on September 16, 2013, 04:16:09 PM

Burnin is a busy guy with everything that's going on. What I will say is don't assume they'll be only 1 distributor and also keep in mind that Burnin does appreciate all the small miners and knows to look out for their best interests.

Burnin will post eventually in here,so Now seriously stop hitting the F5 Key.

Do you have some info on this or are you just guessing?

He is not just guessing.

I'm intrigued as to this meaning. Would either of you pls elaborate a little more? You might not be able to tell us everything in public, but more detail would be greatly welcomed.

RoadStress

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Quote from: FlappySocks on September 17, 2013, 07:50:44 AM

Burnin has been rather silent on this mess.

Yeah, but he is busy testing a fully bitfury populated board today.

FlappySocks

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Burnin has been rather silent on this mess.

shapemaker

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Quote from: ?? on ??

I just asked cryptx if my discount from my failed bitburner boards came to 1000euro and I only want to buy 1 board what happens to the rest of my money? This is the reply

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The discount is maximum for the amount of your order. The rest is lost.

This just gets better

Well that is just total bullshit. If the previous conduct by "cryptx" didn't worry people, this for sure should. What a class act they are! Shocked

iikun

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Quote from: ?? on ??

I just asked cryptx if my discount from my failed bitburner boards came to 1000euro and I only want to buy 1 board what happens to the rest of my money? This is the reply

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The discount is maximum for the amount of your order. The rest is lost.

This just gets better

I wondered about this but my emails & posting in the other thread never got a response.
Oh, also cryptx is ignoring original order numbers (wtf) so really i have no idea why my data had to be shared with such a disreputable outfit.

nemercry

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Vice versa is not a meal.

You all should use the built in trust function to show the people whats going on here.
Dont get cocky in there, just state what happened and proof it with reference.
People are able to see what really happens right now and hopefully we can put on a light in this tragedy.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=142607

Also be aware that there are still other people who offers boards with bitfury chips in the DIY scene.(Also with chips from punin)

Lets hope that burnin did not sell his plans to them and allows other distributors or GBs to buy with higher quantities.

CumpsD

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Haha, what a service :/

I hope I still get my bitburners, since the chips are in Germany already

rebelrat

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Quote from: mmitech on September 17, 2013, 06:16:44 AM

you people have to start thinking about a legal action, this is not BFL, and burnin is from Germany, there some strong consumer protection law in all EU especially in Germany.

I am sure that Burnin sold the design to these guys for a fair profit and these guys want you to pay for their own mining operation with these prices, because they know exactly that you are fucked and you will have no choice, it is their strategy .

till now I didn't hear a word from burinin about this problem, he logs in and doesn't comment on all what is going on.

Maybe somebody needs to notify Punin from Bitfury about what is going on here, that they are using "forced investors"
money to pay for the chips. Let's see how he feels about this, and if he wants to take the risk of accepting funds that
were taken without permission of their owners. This would cross their entire business model.

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things you own end up owning you

you people have to start thinking about a legal action, this is not BFL, and burnin is from Germany, there some strong consumer protection law in all EU especially in Germany.

I am sure that Burnin sold the design to these guys for a fair profit and these guys want you to pay for their own mining operation with these prices, because they know exactly that you are fucked and you will have no choice, it is their strategy .

till now I didn't hear a word from burnin about this problem, he logs in and doesn't comment on all what is going on.

rebelrat

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: rebelrat on September 17, 2013, 05:37:55 AM

They need the margin to finance their "farm" - this entire asic arms race is getting totally ridiculous.

Burnin does not offer any refunds until mid October, using the pre-order money to create the
new boards and pay for the chips and manufacturing costs. Then to top it off, the reward for this
"financing" by the pre-order customers is to screw them again with the cryptx deal. Burnin needs
to come clean and at a minimum offer the pre-order customers boards at cost, as they are the
forced "investors" in this game. Angry

I haven't even looked at the new hardware, i had 10 bitburners on order and haven't received a single email from either burnin or cryptx.

Nothing is clear, and when people invest 1000s into a product it needs to be

He is "taking" our money (I could have used a stronger word) without our permission to fund his new
enterprise. At a minimum we "investors" are entitled to "dividends" - therefore he owes these people
a decent price at the product of this "joint venture". Otherwise this will be headed to legal action.
Very unfortunate that Burnin chose this way.

rebelrat

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They need the margin to finance their "farm" - this entire asic arms race is getting totally ridiculous.

Burnin does not offer any refunds until mid October, using the pre-order money to create the
new boards and pay for the chips and manufacturing costs. Then to top it off, the reward for this
"financing" by the pre-order customers is to screw them again with the cryptx deal. Burnin needs
to come clean and at a minimum offer the pre-order customers boards at cost, as they are the
forced "investors" in this game. Angry

shapemaker

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Wait what the hell is this, as Cryptx stated we (burnin customers) would receive an email relating to ANY updates. Then they post this ?:

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Bitburner Fury boards incl chips will start shipping the first week of October for orders placed before 17 September.

Well thats already gone, and i still can't login to my account so wtf is going on?

You didn't lose much though. The hardware is overpriced because of a greedy distributor adding 40% margins.

etch

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Quote from: mastahofdesastah on September 17, 2013, 04:31:10 AM

Noooo, still waitin that diff. Kills my profit...

In the first page it says: Production capability ~1000 modules per week

So if this is true, and with a mean value of 15 chips per bitburner, there are 1,5 batches processed per week. Maybe you will get them soon. Maybe not if production capabilities stated before have changed.

mastahofdesastah

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Noooo, still waitin that diff. Kills my profit...
Over 2 weeks, since the chips was shipped to burnin...

Quote from: Newar on September 16, 2013, 08:33:44 PM

Quote from: burnin on August 30, 2013, 07:23:20 AM

Quote from: JHenderson on August 29, 2013, 09:29:57 PM

Burnin,

Have you received Batch 2 chips from Zefir?

Yesterday - late afternoon, production will resume on Monday.

Has anyone from that batch received their burners yet?

iikun

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Quote from: Andrey on September 16, 2013, 05:36:29 PM

Quote from: shapemaker on September 16, 2013, 05:10:41 PM

He is not just guessing.

You guys are mysterious. Now hit F5 and let the mystery unfold.

It's probably not a good time to be so mysterious though or whoever the other distributor(s) are will potentially lose a lot of orders. Not to mention how galling it would be to buy at a higher price & then have someone else offer better priced boards.

not to mention the pounding my F5 key will take because morning in Germany is still hours away Roll Eyes

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Quote from: burnin on August 30, 2013, 07:23:20 AM

Quote from: JHenderson on August 29, 2013, 09:29:57 PM

Burnin,

Have you received Batch 2 chips from Zefir?

Yesterday - late afternoon, production will resume on Monday.

Has anyone from that batch received their burners yet?

Andrey

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Quote from: shapemaker on September 16, 2013, 05:10:41 PM

He is not just guessing.

You guys are mysterious. Now hit F5 and let the mystery unfold.

shapemaker

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Quote from: bulltrap on September 16, 2013, 04:41:39 PM

Quote from: AMD FTW on September 16, 2013, 04:16:09 PM

Burnin is a busy guy with everything that's going on. What I will say is don't assume they'll be only 1 distributor and also keep in mind that Burnin does appreciate all the small miners and knows to look out for their best interests.

Burnin will post eventually in here,so Now seriously stop hitting the F5 Key.

Do you have some info on this or are you just guessing?

He is not just guessing.

bulltrap

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Quote from: AMD FTW on September 16, 2013, 04:16:09 PM

Burnin is a busy guy with everything that's going on. What I will say is don't assume they'll be only 1 distributor and also keep in mind that Burnin does appreciate all the small miners and knows to look out for their best interests.

Burnin will post eventually in here,so Now seriously stop hitting the F5 Key.

Do you have some info on this or are you just guessing?

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