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Topic: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service - page 40. (Read 624200 times)

full member
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I run Linux on my abacus.
700 EUR is really hardcore...
hopefully those of us (including me) who requested a refund will get the 70%+X instead of 50%... would be really nice.
we'll see..
Yes, I also want 70% refund but I'm afraid all we can to get from cryptx is 50% (in mid october).
In truth I do not believe that 50% is the part that burnin lost from avalon orders.
I am totally disappointed.

You will get 70% if you ask for a voucher for a BitFury board. The 50% is only if you want cash.

Well, since they're price gouging on the new boards, I don't feel much loyalty towards burnin anymore. As I said, it's starting to look like it's time for courts and 100% refund...
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1007
700 EUR is really hardcore...
hopefully those of us (including me) who requested a refund will get the 70%+X instead of 50%... would be really nice.
we'll see..
Yes, I also want 70% refund but I'm afraid all we can to get from cryptx is 50% (in mid october).
In truth I do not believe that 50% is the part that burnin lost from avalon orders.
I am totally disappointed.

You will get 70% if you ask for a voucher for a BitFury board. The 50% is only if you want cash.
blo
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Now I'm starting to think that you (burnin, cryptx) are trying to cheat even more out of me. Well, since this is the EU, consumer protection laws are pretty stringent. Maybe I should just get my money back (in full) through courts.
+1 same thoughts

Also if 50% is all that burnin (cryptx) can refund because he already order parts why he dont offer 50% + all parts from my order (resistors, capacitors, microcontrollers etc.)? I think it would be fair.
full member
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I run Linux on my abacus.
By the way, could you elaborate on the pricing a bit, please.

Burnin stated earlier the price point would be around 470 euros per board. Does this still hold, or has there been much adjustment upwards in pricing?

Seeing as the chips are 22,5 euros each (per a reel of 3000), the chips would cost 360 euros for one board. 110 euros for manufacturing, parts, design etc doesn't sound too bad tbh.

Prices and Hashrate will be made public at the moment of the launch.

In other words, you're gonna price gouge? Sigh...

Don't make the same mistake the other ASIC vendors are making. We have a base price of 360 euros per board from chips. Another vendor is offering a board for 720 euros which does maybe 40 Gh/s (and won't ever even ROI at that price). I still have hope for burnin (and by extension, you) to make a reasonably priced product in this cutthroat market.

I quote myself, but...

Your pricing is insane. I already lost at least 470 euros to the 70% scheme. Now I'm starting to think that you (burnin, cryptx) are trying to cheat even more out of me. Well, since this is the EU, consumer protection laws are pretty stringent. Maybe I should just get my money back (in full) through courts.
blo
member
Activity: 73
Merit: 10
700 EUR is really hardcore...
hopefully those of us (including me) who requested a refund will get the 70%+X instead of 50%... would be really nice.
we'll see..
Yes, I also want 70% refund but I'm afraid all we can to get from cryptx is 50% (in mid october).
In truth I do not believe that 50% is the part that burnin lost from avalon orders.
I am totally disappointed.
sr. member
Activity: 390
Merit: 250
700 EUR is really hardcore...
hopefully those of us (including me) who requested a refund will get the 70%+X instead of 50%... would be really nice.
we'll see..
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1007
Price: ~470eur+vat (Complete module including chips)
Delivery: early October if Punin delivers on time.

Site is online and price with shipping (to germany) and VAT is 895.40€ - are you kidding me?



Not interested.

Link:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=283992.msg3159587#msg3159587

burnin you said ~500 EUR per board, not 700 EUR. Now everything is messed up for me. I want my refunded chips back so i can get BitBurners. So sad...
sr. member
Activity: 339
Merit: 250
Vice versa is not a meal.
Price: ~470eur+vat (Complete module including chips)
Delivery: early October if Punin delivers on time.

Site is online and price with shipping (to germany) and VAT is 895.40€ - are you kidding me?



Not interested.

Link:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=283992.msg3159587#msg3159587
hero member
Activity: 1232
Merit: 516
The boards are out of stock and not a few members in my groupbuy did not order their boards yet. I hope they can do this when the chips arrive. I have 11000 chips that are still on order and a big part should go to burnin. But i know a big part did not order yet.

Anyone looking to order BitBurnerXXs (without chips): get mine at 15% discount.
52 boards available. Please PM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3067040

hero member
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..yeah
Hi burnin,

Could you tell us (who hang in there with chips on their way soon to arrive) how long you would think assemlby will take if chips would arrive next week friday? I know these These estimates suck because later everybody hates on you if it delays, but please try to give a very rough timeframe, as i need to plan things seriously. +- 4 days would be close enough for me.

Thank you Smiley
hero member
Activity: 563
Merit: 500
My Roadmap:
end of September to November - Bitfury 55nm
from early January 2014  - CoinTerra - 28nm

I'm interested in your take on the CoinTerra chips, burnin.  Is there really any point doing a board based on them?  Their quoted power usage per Gh/s is only marginally less than Bitfury, and it sounds like they're probably impractical without water cooling.  Sounds like a lot of hassle for no clear gain over Bitfury?  Or am I missing something?

EDIT TO ADD: sure it's a shed load of GH/s per chip, but the power and cooling requirements mean your chip density is going to be much lower.  By the time CoinTerra is shipping, Bitfury chips will undoubtedly have dropped in price substantially.  I think a high density Bitfury design might be more interesting than a CoinTerra design...

roy

If CoinCraft pans out that seems rather more interesting than CoinTerra.  Avoids the implausibly high TDP - and *way* better J/GH.  Of course, always assuming they ship product in a timely manner, and that reality is anywhere near specs....

roy

EDIT: Hmm, I guess I was confusing chip efficiency with system effeciency.  Still, looks like one to watch:

https://bitmine.ch/?page_id=863
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-bitmine-coincraft-a1-28nm-chip-distribution-diy-support-294235

And an obvious dig at CoinTerra:

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Do you think that fitting the highest possible number of hashing units into a single, 500+ GH/s silicon die is the best solution? We don’t. Real life experience have shown that the highest performance, lowest total system cost and greatest scalability are achieved by large arrays of small and cool ASICs.
legendary
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I always understood burnin the way that he wont accept orders for bitfury boards from customers directly and that the bitburners will be available as long as its actual. Now the refund time is gone, chips will be delivered and i really hope the bitburners are available in the cryptx-shop again. Otherwise its a problem.
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1000
I have 50 chips going from Zefir to Burnin yet, but only have orders for 2 XX boards, leaving 10 extra chips.  I guess I mathed wrong.

I'm not sure what I'll do about that.
legendary
Activity: 2674
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Legendary Escrow Service - Tip Jar in Profile
The boards are out of stock and not a few members in my groupbuy did not order their boards yet. I hope they can do this when the chips arrive. I have 11000 chips that are still on order and a big part should go to burnin. But i know a big part did not order yet.
hero member
Activity: 624
Merit: 502
The wordpress is there for logging in: https://www.asic-hardware.com/my-account/ so shouldn't be too long now!


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Activity: 154
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I guess we can expect the site up and running by mid next week (fingerscrossed)
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
I run Linux on my abacus.
http://asic-hardware.com/ is prompting for user/pass right now..
Does it mean that the site is on and we can login with our credentials from bitburner's site?

Nah, that's the generic webserver directory password dialog. They're probably in the process of implementing stuff at the moment.

Btw, if you tried to enter your account details there already, be advised you just broadcasted your login/pass in the clear over an insecure connection (no SSL).
sr. member
Activity: 350
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Perfect Smiley in which city would it be? I saw your HQ is in Brussels, and you two from somewhere else

This will be communicated to the concerning customers at due time.
hero member
Activity: 822
Merit: 1002
http://asic-hardware.com/ is prompting for user/pass right now..
Does it mean that the site is on and we can login with our credentials from bitburner's site?
hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 500
is it possible for non-burnin client to get on email list to get notification about website opening?
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