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Topic: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service - page 76. (Read 624200 times)

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Great work burnin. One question for you.

I paid in advance for more then 30 boards. If my avalon chips dont show up really soon, I will have to ask for a full refund from you.

What is your refund policy?

I asked the same thing via mail yesterday. I'm still waiting for an answer.

I'm going to be honest, I think you'll have to share the burden of Burnin's financial loss. He didn't deserve this, and you and he all thought it was a sure bet, no one forced you to buy the chips and you all chomped at the bit to have someone create the products around them. I don't see why he should be out into financial difficulty or bankruptcy because of Bitsyncom's behaviour and lack of integrity. Burnin's has been Stella and transparent the entire way. If it was a Credit Card payment the issuing bank would have insured the loss, but to ask for him to find the money to repay everyone in BTC, which would have been used to pay for inventory and already depleted is not fair. Certainly he could give a partial refund covering the remainder of BTC once his costs and time have been taken...

I admire your honesty, but who da.fak are you to talk about burnins financial loss?

I paid in advance for 700 chips and got fukd by Yifu the man, and paid for 30 boards, again in advance. The way.i see it: no chips = no preordered boards = no financial loss for burnin.

30 boards = 3500 €

Ok I'm just taking a logical standpoint. Burnin' has been the textbook professional with respect to project progression and updates, regularly keeping all those involved with him upto speed.

He had to take payment in advance so he could quit what he was doing before, afford to live and pay for all the inventory required to design, develop, test and manufacture all the boards and associated components ahead of the proposed chip delivery. He's had to pay in advance for the labour involved and a sizeable order to be taken seriously by his board fabricators. He now has those items in stock. You asked, he's done his part, it' involved your cash and everyone else that put him upto it.

You all, Burnin' and yourself included thought it was a great idea. What could go wrong? The last people in the supply chain that anyone thought would intentionally mislead and refuse to acknowledge anyone was Yifu and Zhang. This is not Burnin's fault and I see no other choice than for your to take responsibility for some of your own risk if you chose this path and a payment method that's not covered by consumer protection and insured by a credit card issuer. I'm all for Bitcoin, obviously I wouldn't be here otherwise, but there's areas in which I would never use Bitcoin. Pre-ordering is definitely one, and payment protection is precisely for security in buying products and/or services that are delivered in future, i.e. travel, holidays, etc. This is not Burnin's fault and it's as much your risk as his. Sorry if you don't want to hear that, but you have to take responsibility for your own actions and not try and dump the blame on someone else...
legendary
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Lol why so rude... Do u thing only u make investment? All bitcoin biz is a big risk for a players with big iron balls. U must to invest as much as u ready to lost!

No, no. You got it wrong. That was not an investment. I paid for a product in advance. The moment avalon didnt ship what was agreed my money became an investment.

The thing is that I dont want to invest. I would rather:

A: get my product on time
B: get my money back
C: make new agreement
D: call da police
sr. member
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Learn to go against your mind
Lol why so rude... Do u thing only u make investment? All bitcoin biz is a big risk for a players with big iron balls. U must to invest as much as u ready to lost!
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A pumpkin mines 27 hours a night
I believe a lot of the effort and money invested in the development may be re-used for Bitfury chips, am I right?
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..yeah
FYI where the chips could be. No proof at all but sounds like a reasonable story.
If its true, our chips will take a lot more time to arrive than thought.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2881320

BS  Angry

IF.. if it's true; then Yifu Trollol should have amended his "NO BS" policy on the chip order page to include the extra time it would take to get chips made. Unless you believe someone talented enough to design an ASIC chip for SHA-256 and wanting to produce his own brand tablet can't compute "X" number of chips ordered * TSMC production = "Y" time for delivery.

we're getting a little offtopic, but if you believe no more chips were received because.. yeah, why? Heres why I think no more chips were received: ordering was going pretty well, before or right in that process a big investor came across and told yifu "hey man, how about 14/X million dollar?" and yifu is like "Yeah, go ahead and order some chips" but he insist "no, that way I would need to wait before anyone else gets his/her chips, thats too long, put me in front or somehwhere at the top" - we can't do that, I'm all ethical. "Ok, I'll take my 14/X million dollar elsewhere" - okay, wait a minute, I was joking, you know they call me goofie fukyu? Trolled.
hero member
Activity: 532
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Great work burnin. One question for you.

I paid in advance for more then 30 boards. If my avalon chips dont show up really soon, I will have to ask for a full refund from you.

What is your refund policy?

I asked the same thing via mail yesterday. I'm still waiting for an answer.

I'm going to be honest, I think you'll have to share the burden of Burnin's financial loss. He didn't deserve this, and you and he all thought it was a sure bet, no one forced you to buy the chips and you all chomped at the bit to have someone create the products around them. I don't see why he should be out into financial difficulty or bankruptcy because of Bitsyncom's behaviour and lack of integrity. Burnin's has been Stella and transparent the entire way. If it was a Credit Card payment the issuing bank would have insured the loss, but to ask for him to find the money to repay everyone in BTC, which would have been used to pay for inventory and already depleted is not fair. Certainly he could give a partial refund covering the remainder of BTC once his costs and time have been taken...
sr. member
Activity: 457
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FYI where the chips could be. No proof at all but sounds like a reasonable story.
If its true, our chips will take a lot more time to arrive than thought.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2881320

BS  Angry

IF.. if it's true; then Yifu Trollol should have amended his "NO BS" policy on the chip order page to include the extra time it would take to get chips made. Unless you believe someone talented enough to design an ASIC chip for SHA-256 and wanting to produce his own brand tablet can't compute "X" number of chips ordered * TSMC production = "Y" time for delivery.
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Great work burnin. One question for you.

I paid in advance for more then 30 boards. If my avalon chips dont show up really soon, I will have to ask for a full refund from you.

What is your refund policy?

I asked the same thing via mail yesterday. I'm still waiting for an answer.
hero member
Activity: 525
Merit: 500
..yeah
Great work burnin. One question for you.

I paid in advance for more then 30 boards. If my avalon chips dont show up really soon, I will have to ask for a full refund from you.

What is your refund policy?

Thats just what I liked to ask as well. I don't think it's fair on burnin nor does he desserve this, but this is getting into a desaster and I cannot afford this if things will stay this way. There is just no sense in buying bitburners for quite some money if your chips will suck at a difficulty that simply kills any possible ROI ever. Fuck that "goofie fukyu"  Angry
legendary
Activity: 1232
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Great work burnin. One question for you.

I paid in advance for more then 30 boards. If my avalon chips dont show up really soon, I will have to ask for a full refund from you.

What is your refund policy?
sr. member
Activity: 339
Merit: 250
Vice versa is not a meal.
FYI where the chips could be. No proof at all but sounds like a reasonable story.
If its true, our chips will take a lot more time to arrive than thought.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2881320
hero member
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Merit: 500
I just want to say that I'm sorry for you and everyone else that has been practically scammed by Avalon.

Yeah, it sucks.  The first company that comes along and actually does a good job of providing products and service/support will absolutely clean up, I'm sure.
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I just want to say that I'm sorry for you and everyone else that has been practically scammed by Avalon.
hero member
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Great news!

I only regret not ordering more chips now so that I can get more of these bad boys Cheesy



Only delivered chips as far as I'm aware is zefir's batch one.

Yeah and the chips I have ordered are part of zefir's batch one. So yes, I will get my boards in my hands hopefully by the end of next week.

Lucky!  (No, not luck on your part, you were quick, I was slow - I just missed the tail of batch 2, ended up in batch 3).
full member
Activity: 154
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Great news!

I only regret not ordering more chips now so that I can get more of these bad boys Cheesy



Only delivered chips as far as I'm aware is zefir's batch one.

Yeah and the chips I have ordered are part of zefir's batch one. So yes, I will get my boards in my hands hopefully by the end of next week.
hero member
Activity: 499
Merit: 500
Great news!

I only regret not ordering more chips now so that I can get more of these bad boys Cheesy



Only delivered chips as far as I'm aware is zefir's batch one.
hero member
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Anyone have 10 chips from batch one? PM me
full member
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Ahhhhh - so that's what the two 90 degree brackets are for - lol silly me - Luckily the Duplo works just as well Smiley
Yeah I got a Gelid 100,000hr silent (mag-lev bearing) fan
Paid way too much for it - I got to my local Jaycar 1min before closing that day ...
But it's sitting under the desk in front of me, fan at 90-100% and I can only hear "a slight breeze" and nothing more.
( --avalon-fan 90-100 ) keeps it in the low 40's - ambient inside (winter) is 18C - but it's a little warmer there under the desk.

Less commenting, more OC'ing Tongue
Get that bad boy to 450MH/s already... Cheesy
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It looks beautiful burnin. Congratulations!

Now to sit and hope that I eventually get one...
full member
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Great news!

I only regret not ordering more chips now so that I can get more of these bad boys Cheesy

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