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Quote from: Daniel91 on December 24, 2022, 09:28:20 AM

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Quote from: Daniel91 on December 22, 2022, 04:34:29 AM

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With Messi seemingly set to play in the next World Cup, Mbappe may have to wait another World Cup to become the best all-time World Cups goalscorer.
Ultimately, I think Mbappe will probably play in 3 more World Cups and probably set a World Cup goalscoring record that will be very hard to beat.
However, much more important than that will be the fact whether France with Mbappe will be able to become world champions again?
Ultimately, these are the most important titles in football, which will decide who is the greatest footballer of all time, Messi or Mbappe.

The Messi era and the Mbappe era are clearly different. So, we can't compare them. after all, Argentina has won the world cup Qatar. and everyone agrees, even football legends say that Messi is the Goat.
To be honest, if Messi comes back to play in the next world cup. I will not support him anymore, because he is not consistent with what he has stated before.

As for Kylian Mbappe, Mbappe still has the opportunity to continue to participate in this 4 yearly event. he is still very young, Mbappe has the opportunity to create new records and achievements for him. but if only, Haaland could play for any national team, for example he became a naturalized England player. I believe Haaland is a tough rival for Mbappe to beat. unfortunately, Norway rarely qualify for the world cup stage.

However, for the level of league competition. I really believe, if Manchester City won the Champions League. Haaland will be one of the best players to get the Balon D'Or.
and I doubt whether France will be able to repeat and enter the final round of the world cup later.

in fact, I believe that other young talents will be born who are no less great than Mbappe.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on December 24, 2022, 09:28:20 AM

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So, Klose is currently in first place with 16 goals, but Messi with 13 goals and Mbappe with 12 goals are very close to him.
Messi even scored 4 goals out of 13 from penalties.
I read somewhere that Messi stated that he will play in another world cup, if Argentina becomes the world champion. So, Messi will most likely have a good chance to become the top scorer of the world football championships in 4 years.
However, given that he is still a very young and talented striker, and that he will almost certainly appear in 2-3 more world championships, my prediction is that in 8 years Mbappe will become the best scorer in the world football championships and that record will stand for a very long time.

I know there's no bet to put like this (maybe in some gambling houses in UK) but I bet Mbapeé will get to the top in the next World Cup.

Only 4 goals to get to the top, if we consider France will play next world cup and get at least at quarter finals (easy achievement), there's 5 matches to score 4 goals, considering he's the penalty taker, and considering France is going to be the seed and face at least one weaker team, the chances are high.
Another last thing to consider, the next world cup will have 48 teams instead of 32, so there's more probablity to have weaker teams and more goals.

With Messi seemingly set to play in the next World Cup, Mbappe may have to wait another World Cup to become the best all-time World Cups goalscorer.
Ultimately, I think Mbappe will probably play in 3 more World Cups and probably set a World Cup goalscoring record that will be very hard to beat.
However, much more important than that will be the fact whether France with Mbappe will be able to become world champions again?
Ultimately, these are the most important titles in football, which will decide who is the greatest footballer of all time, Messi or Mbappe.

There is a huge difference between Messi and Mbappe ages and their time left in football as Messi Is 35 and he can ay maximum one more world cup but Mbappe's football career has just started he's just 23 he has a life infront of him and he'll achieve much more than Messi or Ronaldo and become goat of all times if hell play like this with zeal and passion.
There are indeed many great footballers that have achieved milestones and earn lots of name in football .

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Quote from: rdluffy on December 22, 2022, 08:58:21 AM

Quote from: Daniel91 on December 22, 2022, 04:34:29 AM

So, Klose is currently in first place with 16 goals, but Messi with 13 goals and Mbappe with 12 goals are very close to him.
Messi even scored 4 goals out of 13 from penalties.
I read somewhere that Messi stated that he will play in another world cup, if Argentina becomes the world champion. So, Messi will most likely have a good chance to become the top scorer of the world football championships in 4 years.
However, given that he is still a very young and talented striker, and that he will almost certainly appear in 2-3 more world championships, my prediction is that in 8 years Mbappe will become the best scorer in the world football championships and that record will stand for a very long time.

I know there's no bet to put like this (maybe in some gambling houses in UK) but I bet Mbapeé will get to the top in the next World Cup.

Only 4 goals to get to the top, if we consider France will play next world cup and get at least at quarter finals (easy achievement), there's 5 matches to score 4 goals, considering he's the penalty taker, and considering France is going to be the seed and face at least one weaker team, the chances are high.
Another last thing to consider, the next world cup will have 48 teams instead of 32, so there's more probablity to have weaker teams and more goals.

With Messi seemingly set to play in the next World Cup, Mbappe may have to wait another World Cup to become the best all-time World Cups goalscorer.
Ultimately, I think Mbappe will probably play in 3 more World Cups and probably set a World Cup goalscoring record that will be very hard to beat.
However, much more important than that will be the fact whether France with Mbappe will be able to become world champions again?
Ultimately, these are the most important titles in football, which will decide who is the greatest footballer of all time, Messi or Mbappe.

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People most times argue blindly basically because of fan love and mbappe has been a very hard working player a d he also proved this eve in this just concluded world cup match.
I'm happy that Messi took this win and at the same time i wished mbappe did because I wanted it for an Africa country.
I also see no need for this constant reminder of unnecessary comparison and the fact that this comparisons actually has no positive impact on the community and also on the players but rather telling on tye players but imposing mental stress on them as a result of pressure.

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But these chances comes in life time. However seems like Mbappe won't be playing more world cup - I read it online that he has faced so much discrimination after he lost the world cup - don't know if that is correct or not.
But Mbappe single handedly carried out the final the criticism is not correct.

Criticism and discrimination are usual at the end of tournament especially when the fans of a team expect their side to win. France was the defending champion that got to the finals , so the fans saw themselves at the verge of picking the trophy again back to back which will be an outstanding record maybe that is what they were looking at. But they need Mbappe in the next world cup and I don't think Mbappe still has the desire to play. The fans can be over reacting if that is true anyway.

Infact you can say if you define final for France that's MBAPPE hatrik and goals. Other than that no one played or performed in final from France ,what kind of discrimination is this?
France fans should thank Mbappe for saving France from a horrible defeat.

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Quote from: og kush420 on December 24, 2022, 03:45:33 AM

But these chances comes in life time. However seems like Mbappe won't be playing more world cup - I read it online that he has faced so much discrimination after he lost the world cup - don't know if that is correct or not.
But Mbappe single handedly carried out the final the criticism is not correct.

Criticism and discrimination are usual at the end of tournament especially when the fans of a team expect their side to win. France was the defending champion that got to the finals , so the fans saw themselves at the verge of picking the trophy again back to back which will be an outstanding record maybe that is what they were looking at. But they need Mbappe in the next world cup and I don't think Mbappe still has the desire to play. The fans can be over reacting if that is true anyway.

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Quote from: nullama on December 23, 2022, 09:49:52 PM

Quote from: martyns on December 23, 2022, 07:49:52 PM

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I believe and agree with you that Haaland can compete with Mbape in goals,but world cup will differentiate the whole thing,because Haaland has not had the opportunity to play in world cup the way Mbape has had.But when it comes to cub games and goals,Haaland is capable of even scoring more goals than Mbape.
Haaland is currently topping the goal scoring table in England,and has been able to score more goals in the first half of the season than any player I have known since I started watching England football.Scoring goals in England is always one difficult thing to do,but Haaland scores goals like he is playing.I so much like the guy.

Yeah, the thing is that Mbappe is just starting really, he has at least some 2 or 3 more world cups to come and he will probably be scoring lots of goals at those anyway, so we'll have to wait and see how he performs.

But these chances comes in life time. However seems like Mbappe won't be playing more world cup - I read it online that he has faced so much discrimination after he lost the world cup - don't know if that is correct or not.
But Mbappe single handedly carried out the final the criticism is not correct.

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Quote from: martyns on December 23, 2022, 07:49:52 PM

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I believe and agree with you that Haaland can compete with Mbape in goals,but world cup will differentiate the whole thing,because Haaland has not had the opportunity to play in world cup the way Mbape has had.But when it comes to cub games and goals,Haaland is capable of even scoring more goals than Mbape.
Haaland is currently topping the goal scoring table in England,and has been able to score more goals in the first half of the season than any player I have known since I started watching England football.Scoring goals in England is always one difficult thing to do,but Haaland scores goals like he is playing.I so much like the guy.

Yeah, the thing is that Mbappe is just starting really, he has at least some 2 or 3 more world cups to come and he will probably be scoring lots of goals at those anyway, so we'll have to wait and see how he performs.

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Quote from: martyns on December 23, 2022, 07:49:52 PM

I believe and agree with you that Haaland can compete with Mbape in goals,but world cup will differentiate the whole thing,because Haaland has not had the opportunity to play in world cup the way Mbape has had.But when it comes to cub games and goals,Haaland is capable of even scoring more goals than Mbape.Haaland is currently topping the goal scoring table in England,and has been able to score more goals in the first half of the season than any player I have known since I started watching England football.Scoring goals in England is always one difficult thing to do,but Haaland scores goals like he is playing.I so much like the guy.

I know that Håland is a very talented player. But I haven't watched him in action a lot, because normally I don't follow club football. I am mostly interested in international matches (FIFA World Cup, Euro Cup.etc) and Norway hardly ever qualifies for these tournaments. It is disappointing for players such as Håland, but he is not alone. Gareth Bale of Wales, Mohamed Salah of Egypt, Eldor Shomurodov of Uzbekistan, Riyad Mahrez of Algeria and Goran Pandeev of North Macedonia are examples of such talented players, who rarely gets opportunity to participate in global tournaments.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 23, 2022, 10:00:13 AM

Quote from: Zilon on December 23, 2022, 07:00:26 AM

12 goals in 14 matches for 24-year-old Mbappé is like a warning that his coming to break old records and set new ones. He should still have not less than 3 to 4 world cups with more matches to play before he decides to retire from the France national team. Before then, Haaland should join the race with the Norway national football team. I recall when he scored nine goals in the u-20 world cup. Haaland is one player I believe can compete with Mbappé for awards and titles, including all-time highest goalscorer in the world cup.

Kylian Mbappé has the advantage of playing for France, who always qualify for the world cup. I really doubt whether he would achieve this sort of fame and success in case he chose to represent Cameroon (where his father is from) or Algeria (where his mother belongs to) instead of France. The case with Håland is a bit complicated. He is an immensely talented player, but his country (Norway) never qualifies for the world cup. The last tome Norway qualified for the FIFA world cup was in 1998, when they managed to qualify for the round of 16.

I believe and agree with you that Haaland can compete with Mbape in goals,but world cup will differentiate the whole thing,because Haaland has not had the opportunity to play in world cup the way Mbape has had.But when it comes to cub games and goals,Haaland is capable of even scoring more goals than Mbape.
Haaland is currently topping the goal scoring table in England,and has been able to score more goals in the first half of the season than any player I have known since I started watching England football.Scoring goals in England is always one difficult thing to do,but Haaland scores goals like he is playing.I so much like the guy.

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Quote from: Zilon on December 23, 2022, 07:00:26 AM

12 goals in 14 matches for 24-year-old Mbappé is like a warning that his coming to break old records and set new ones. He should still have not less than 3 to 4 world cups with more matches to play before he decides to retire from the France national team. Before then, Haaland should join the race with the Norway national football team. I recall when he scored nine goals in the u-20 world cup. Haaland is one player I believe can compete with Mbappé for awards and titles, including all-time highest goalscorer in the world cup.

Kylian Mbappé has the advantage of playing for France, who always qualify for the world cup. I really doubt whether he would achieve this sort of fame and success in case he chose to represent Cameroon (where his father is from) or Algeria (where his mother belongs to) instead of France. The case with Håland is a bit complicated. He is an immensely talented player, but his country (Norway) never qualifies for the world cup. The last tome Norway qualified for the FIFA world cup was in 1998, when they managed to qualify for the round of 16.

To me all the players - Mbappe - Messi - Ronaldo are all GOATs.
If the world cup is palyed again - maybe France win. That was a lucky day for Argentina and its a moment of seconds
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Quote from: Zilon on December 23, 2022, 07:00:26 AM

12 goals in 14 matches for 24-year-old Mbappé is like a warning that his coming to break old records and set new ones. He should still have not less than 3 to 4 world cups with more matches to play before he decides to retire from the France national team. Before then, Haaland should join the race with the Norway national football team. I recall when he scored nine goals in the u-20 world cup. Haaland is one player I believe can compete with Mbappé for awards and titles, including all-time highest goalscorer in the world cup.

Kylian Mbappé has the advantage of playing for France, who always qualify for the world cup. I really doubt whether he would achieve this sort of fame and success in case he chose to represent Cameroon (where his father is from) or Algeria (where his mother belongs to) instead of France. The case with Håland is a bit complicated. He is an immensely talented player, but his country (Norway) never qualifies for the world cup. The last tome Norway qualified for the FIFA world cup was in 1998, when they managed to qualify for the round of 16.

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AFAIK, Mbappe will be 27 years old in 2026 and 31 years old in 2030. There would be no problem for him to score several goals in the next two World Cup tournaments (assuming that France will qualify for the next two World Cup tournaments).
I expect new and talented players to appear in 2026 and challenge Mbappe for the first place. The upcoming World Cup will have 48 teams, which means more games, which means more chances to score a goal. Most of the new teams in the group stage would be mediocre, which that the stronger teams like France will have the opportunity to score more goals.

Definitely kylian Mbappe just kind of started his football journey yet he has achieved milestones like senior professional older players . He is definitely going to make more records for his country in future.
He's going to be a bomb in future which he still is and he'll give tough competition to new ones and seniors too.

12 goals in 14 matches for 24-year-old Mbappé is like a warning that his coming to break old records and set new ones. He should still have not less than 3 to 4 world cups with more matches to play before he decides to retire from the France national team. Before then, Haaland should join the race with the Norway national football team. I recall when he scored nine goals in the u-20 world cup. Haaland is one player I believe can compete with Mbappé for awards and titles, including all-time highest goalscorer in the world cup.

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Quote from: davis196 on December 23, 2022, 06:21:59 AM

AFAIK, Mbappe will be 27 years old in 2026 and 31 years old in 2030. There would be no problem for him to score several goals in the next two World Cup tournaments (assuming that France will qualify for the next two World Cup tournaments).
I expect new and talented players to appear in 2026 and challenge Mbappe for the first place. The upcoming World Cup will have 48 teams, which means more games, which means more chances to score a goal. Most of the new teams in the group stage would be mediocre, which that the stronger teams like France will have the opportunity to score more goals.

Definitely kylian Mbappe just kind of started his football journey yet he has achieved milestones like senior professional older players . He is definitely going to make more records for his country in future.
He's going to be a bomb in future which he still is and he'll give tough competition to new ones and seniors too.

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AFAIK, Mbappe will be 27 years old in 2026 and 31 years old in 2030. There would be no problem for him to score several goals in the next two World Cup tournaments (assuming that France will qualify for the next two World Cup tournaments).
I expect new and talented players to appear in 2026 and challenge Mbappe for the first place. The upcoming World Cup will have 48 teams, which means more games, which means more chances to score a goal. Most of the new teams in the group stage would be mediocre, which that the stronger teams like France will have the opportunity to score more goals.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on December 22, 2022, 04:34:29 AM

https://www.goal.com/en-ng/amp/news/who-is-the-world-cups-all-time-top-goalscorer/blt3f14b4b579a0c6f5

According to the information on this info graphic, it shows that Mbappe has a very high chance to become the highest goal scorer in the history of world cup. This is because he is still young sure of going to next two worldcups.
And if he goes to the world Cup he will score alot of goals like he did, unless he is unable to go world cup due to injuries or other circumstances. I doubt because he is not an injury prone player.

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Quote from: rdluffy on December 22, 2022, 08:58:21 AM

I know there's no bet to put like this (maybe in some gambling houses in UK) but I bet Mbapeé will get to the top in the next World Cup.

Only 4 goals to get to the top, if we consider France will play next world cup and get at least at quarter finals (easy achievement), there's 5 matches to score 4 goals, considering he's the penalty taker, and considering France is going to be the seed and face at least one weaker team, the chances are high.
Another last thing to consider, the next world cup will have 48 teams instead of 32, so there's more probablity to have weaker teams and more goals.

No doubt, Mbappe is a player who has already played at the top level of world football and is still quite young, which means that he has a lot of time to improve, develop and achieve great success. In his two appearances for France in the World Cup, he has scored twelve goals and is already sixth on the list of "All time leading goal scorers". Only four more away from Klose's record 16. It is no wonder that the whole world of football is already speaking about a new star of world football - Kylian Mbappe. And it is safe to say that this young man has everything to become the best scorer in World Cup history.

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Quote from: Docnaster on December 22, 2022, 05:14:51 AM

Though Giroud didn't score in the 2018 world cup,his performance was exceptional. Greezman was one of the top scorers in the 2018 world cup, he did this by registering a total of 4 goals and two assists in the tournament. And in the 2022 world cup, he put in a man-of-the-match performance against Morocco. Though not noticeable, Antione Griezmann, Olivier Giroud, and Ousmane Dembélé have contributed immensely in bringing France to the two world cup tournament. though people only speak more about mbappe, these individuals also deserve much respect.

From all the matches in this world cup, Griezmann's performance was considered very neat and the most stable when compared to other players and he enjoyed his new role as a playmaker. from his 7 matches, Griezmann has a statistical rating above 7, and was twice the Man of the Match during the matches between Australia and Denmark. Likewise with Olivier Giroud, his performance was quite neat from match to match. it's just, I don't understand what Descamps was thinking during the final fight. It was Dembele who played very badly, but Giroud was also taken off in the 41st minute of the first half. though, it doesn't look that bad.

On the other hand, against England. Mbappe doesn't play much, in fact his performance is very unstable. especially when against Marocco, Mbappe was unable to score a single goal in these two matches. so, Griezmann and Giroud should also be given appreciation because thanks to them too, France was able to reach the final of the world cup.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on December 22, 2022, 04:34:29 AM

So, Klose is currently in first place with 16 goals, but Messi with 13 goals and Mbappe with 12 goals are very close to him.
Messi even scored 4 goals out of 13 from penalties.
I read somewhere that Messi stated that he will play in another world cup, if Argentina becomes the world champion. So, Messi will most likely have a good chance to become the top scorer of the world football championships in 4 years.
However, given that he is still a very young and talented striker, and that he will almost certainly appear in 2-3 more world championships, my prediction is that in 8 years Mbappe will become the best scorer in the world football championships and that record will stand for a very long time.

I know there's no bet to put like this (maybe in some gambling houses in UK) but I bet Mbapeé will get to the top in the next World Cup.

Only 4 goals to get to the top, if we consider France will play next world cup and get at least at quarter finals (easy achievement), there's 5 matches to score 4 goals, considering he's the penalty taker, and considering France is going to be the seed and face at least one weaker team, the chances are high.
Another last thing to consider, the next world cup will have 48 teams instead of 32, so there's more probablity to have weaker teams and more goals.

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Quote from: Docnaster on December 22, 2022, 05:14:51 AM

Though Giroud didn't score in the 2018 world cup,his performance was exceptional. Greezman was one of the top scorers in the 2018 world cup, he did this by registering a total of 4 goals and two assists in the tournament. And in the 2022 world cup, he put in a man-of-the-match performance against Morocco. Though not noticeable, Antione Griezmann, Olivier Giroud, and Ousmane Dembélé have contributed immensely in bringing France to the two world cup tournament. though people only speak more about mbappe, these individuals also deserve much respect.

That's true France is not just Mbappe, it's alot more than that, there are very fine and experienced players that has contributed alot in this world cup and in bringing France to the finals.
Yes in final Mbappe did something brilliant.

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