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Quote from: Daniel91 on December 22, 2022, 04:34:29 AM

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Quote from: Ttelas on December 05, 2022, 04:39:14 AM

Kylian Mbappe scores his 9th World Cup goal 😳

🇫🇷 Mbappe - 9
🇦🇷 Messi - 9
🇪🇸 Villa - 9
🇮🇹 Baggio - 9

From the record of the all time goal scorers in the world cup, kylian Mbappe has the chance to top the record in his life time because he has the opportunity to come for more world cups at least two more, he is still young to play but Messi may not return for it but I'm sure he is satisfied with the records to his name.

Note: I hope you know this is not the complete record for the all time scorers of the world cup. This is the list here

https://www.goal.com/en-ng/amp/news/who-is-the-world-cups-all-time-top-goalscorer/blt3f14b4b579a0c6f5

The best scorers of the world football championships can be seen in this list:
https://www.worldfootball.net/alltime_goalgetter/wm/tore/1/

So, Klose is currently in first place with 16 goals, but Messi with 13 goals and Mbappe with 12 goals are very close to him.
Messi even scored 4 goals out of 13 from penalties.
I read somewhere that Messi stated that he will play in another world cup, if Argentina becomes the world champion. So, Messi will most likely have a good chance to become the top scorer of the world football championships in 4 years.
However, given that he is still a very young and talented striker, and that he will almost certainly appear in 2-3 more world championships, my prediction is that in 8 years Mbappe will become the best scorer in the world football championships and that record will stand for a very long time.

I think the difference between the link you shared and the one I did was the inclusion of penalty kicks scored but that is not what point I was trying to make. I was trying to talk about goals scored in the time of play and not penalty awarded. Penalty is like a free goal awarded for the player to take the chance of scoring. Freekicks are difficult obviously.

However it will make sense if Messi will come back in Canada, Mexico and USA world cup next tournament. Argentina should be coming as defending champion and that means it is an automatic appearance on the world cup and no competition about that.

He should still be less than 40 years and should be fit for the game, I think the oldest world cup players so far is Essam El-Hadary from Egypt

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Though Giroud didn't score in the 2018 world cup,his performance was exceptional. Greezman was one of the top scorers in the 2018 world cup, he did this by registering a total of 4 goals and two assists in the tournament. And in the 2022 world cup, he put in a man-of-the-match performance against Morocco. Though not noticeable, Antione Griezmann, Olivier Giroud, and Ousmane Dembélé have contributed immensely in bringing France to the two world cup tournament. though people only speak more about mbappe, these individuals also deserve much respect.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on December 22, 2022, 04:14:17 AM

Quote from: Ttelas on December 05, 2022, 04:39:14 AM

Kylian Mbappe scores his 9th World Cup goal 😳

🇫🇷 Mbappe - 9
🇦🇷 Messi - 9
🇪🇸 Villa - 9
🇮🇹 Baggio - 9

From the record of the all time goal scorers in the world cup, kylian Mbappe has the chance to top the record in his life time because he has the opportunity to come for more world cups at least two more, he is still young to play but Messi may not return for it but I'm sure he is satisfied with the records to his name.

Note: I hope you know this is not the complete record for the all time scorers of the world cup. This is the list here

https://www.goal.com/en-ng/amp/news/who-is-the-world-cups-all-time-top-goalscorer/blt3f14b4b579a0c6f5

The best scorers of the world football championships can be seen in this list:
https://www.worldfootball.net/alltime_goalgetter/wm/tore/1/

So, Klose is currently in first place with 16 goals, but Messi with 13 goals and Mbappe with 12 goals are very close to him.
Messi even scored 4 goals out of 13 from penalties.
I read somewhere that Messi stated that he will play in another world cup, if Argentina becomes the world champion. So, Messi will most likely have a good chance to become the top scorer of the world football championships in 4 years.
However, given that he is still a very young and talented striker, and that he will almost certainly appear in 2-3 more world championships, my prediction is that in 8 years Mbappe will become the best scorer in the world football championships and that record will stand for a very long time.

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Quote from: Ttelas on December 05, 2022, 04:39:14 AM

Kylian Mbappe scores his 9th World Cup goal 😳

🇫🇷 Mbappe - 9
🇦🇷 Messi - 9
🇪🇸 Villa - 9
🇮🇹 Baggio - 9

From the record of the all time goal scorers in the world cup, kylian Mbappe has the chance to top the record in his life time because he has the opportunity to come for more world cups at least two more, he is still young to play but Messi may not return for it but I'm sure he is satisfied with the records to his name.

Note: I hope you know this is not the complete record for the all time scorers of the world cup. This is the list here

https://www.goal.com/en-ng/amp/news/who-is-the-world-cups-all-time-top-goalscorer/blt3f14b4b579a0c6f5

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Unfortunately, we could not add Cr7 to this list this cup. He didnt score that much in thia competition as he also didnt had too many chances. All in all, Messi ended up having a much better cup than Ronaldo and took a new score back home.

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Quote from: Majestic-milf on December 21, 2022, 09:47:35 PM

Mbappe is a great player no doubt but when it comes to Messi you can't just put one or two together to stop this guy, he's unpredictable, when he plays for the team he carries everybody along. Messi makes football a joy to watch, if you stop him (that's if you can) he'll create another route for other players to score, but Mbappe can't do all that, stopping his runs is even more easier than stopping Messi.

To rap it up, I feel is fair to let Mbappe get hold of the golden boot while Messi with the trophy and man of the match award.

In the final, the French defenders had no clue against Messi. Several of the French defenders struggled to control him. He somehow managed to keep the ball under his control. On the other hand, Kylian Mbappé was nowhere in the picture for the initial 80 minutes or so. Only when he scored the first goal through a penalty kick, he came back in to the game. But Messi was consistent throughout the match. He won the match for Argentina, something that Mbappé failed to do for his team. So IMO, Messi did a much better job.

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Mbappe is a great player no doubt but when it comes to Messi you can't just put one or two together to stop this guy, he's unpredictable, when he plays for the team he carries everybody along. Messi makes football a joy to watch, if you stop him (that's if you can) he'll create another route for other players to score, but Mbappe can't do all that, stopping his runs is even more easier than stopping Messi.

To rap it up, I feel is fair to let Mbappe get hold of the golden boot while Messi with the trophy and man of the match award.

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Quote from: Josefjix on December 21, 2022, 04:45:10 PM

Kylian mbappe is my favorite player in the world cup. His speed alone is very different from others, he's pacey and have the strength and balance to over come defenders on the pitch. He's a big threat when it comes to facing his opposition, he does everything to achive his goals in a season. So mbappe deserve every single award he's been nominated for. I've watch him play at to high level

I can cite several reasons that justify Mbappé's victory, among them:

Number of goals - He is better than Messi, because despite having the same number (9), three of Messi's goals were penalty kicks, unlike Mbappé who scored all goals with the ball rolling.

Assists and Goal Appearances - If Mbappé isn't scoring goals, then he's providing assists for that. Mbappé was largely responsible for most of the plays that ended in shots for the opposing goal.

Speed on the pitch - A big thing that makes Mbappé one of the best in the world is his speed. In Qatar, he hit his best goal reaching 35.3 km/h which also helped him with the powerful shots that reached 113.74 km/h in the game against Poland.

Mbappé and Pelé - In his two participations in World Cups, Mbappé scored 9 goals, surpassing Pelé, who, aged 21, scored eight goals in the first two World Cups he participated.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on December 21, 2022, 02:33:50 PM

Mbappe is an amazing player, it's my first time watching him play and he indeed deserved the golden boot that was awarded to him, if that award was ever given to any body else, that would have been a clear cheating.
Him all alone scoring 3 goals that equalized the their match against Argentina is no small feet.

Personally, I think every award in this 2022 world cup went to all the right players that deserved it, I have no objection of any kind.

Kylian mbappe is my favorite player in the world cup. His speed alone is very different from others, he's pacey and have the strength and balance to over come defenders on the pitch. He's a big threat when it comes to facing his opposition, he does everything to achive his goals in a season. So mbappe deserve every single award he's been nominated for. I've watch him play at to high level

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Quote from: 3meek on December 21, 2022, 02:19:34 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on December 20, 2022, 10:35:26 PM

The penalty conceded by Argentina in the 80th minute not just put Argentina in the backfoot, but it also stole the golden boot from Lionel Messi. Without the two penalty kicks, Kylian Mbappe could have never overtaken Messi. And in both cases, the penalty was unnecessary. I am glad that Messi received the Golden Ball award (Silver Boot as well). Luka Modrić received the Bronze Ball, and Olivier Giroud won the Bronze Boot, and both of them deservingly so. The only award in which I had issue was the Golden Glove being given to Emiliano Martínez. I thought that Dominik Livaković or Yassine Bounou deserved it better.

The Argentine goalkeeper played as well as the Croatian goalkeeper and maybe even better... Although I agree with you that Livakovic also deserved this award... He saved his team from defeat many times... As for Luka Modric, I think they could have given the silver boot to someone else, the same Mbappe... It's not that he scored two penalties, it's that he alone did a lot for his team... Unlike Modric he played in the final and scored three goals...

Mbappe is an amazing player, it's my first time watching him play and he indeed deserved the golden boot that was awarded to him, if that award was ever given to any body else, that would have been a clear cheating.
Him all alone scoring 3 goals that equalized the their match against Argentina is no small feet.

Personally, I think every award in this 2022 world cup went to all the right players that deserved it, I have no objection of any kind.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 20, 2022, 10:35:26 PM

The penalty conceded by Argentina in the 80th minute not just put Argentina in the backfoot, but it also stole the golden boot from Lionel Messi. Without the two penalty kicks, Kylian Mbappe could have never overtaken Messi. And in both cases, the penalty was unnecessary. I am glad that Messi received the Golden Ball award (Silver Boot as well). Luka Modrić received the Bronze Ball, and Olivier Giroud won the Bronze Boot, and both of them deservingly so. The only award in which I had issue was the Golden Glove being given to Emiliano Martínez. I thought that Dominik Livaković or Yassine Bounou deserved it better.

The Argentine goalkeeper played as well as the Croatian goalkeeper and maybe even better... Although I agree with you that Livakovic also deserved this award... He saved his team from defeat many times... As for Luka Modric, I think they could have given the silver boot to someone else, the same Mbappe... It's not that he scored two penalties, it's that he alone did a lot for his team... Unlike Modric he played in the final and scored three goals...

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Quote from: Daltonik on December 21, 2022, 02:56:04 AM

Yes, it also seems to me that it was the game in the final that decided the fate of the golden gloves prize in favor of Argentina goalkeeper Emiliano Martinez, which he certainly deserved by making several key saves, turning the match into a penalty shootout.

Yeah! after all, it was he who minimized their enemy's score so that they won't have any problem catching with it throughout the game it was a success and he truly deserved the award. Most likely he did his best to depend on and in which he managed to depend well for them to win the Championship which was their goal from the start. It was a truly hard-fought battle since they came from a loss to Saudi Arabia and they managed to keep fighting and never lose after that.

Argentina is a Unique team for not letting the Saudi Arabia defeat get to them. the spirit of sportsmanship in them lead them to strive for the cup other than worrying over the defeat from a small team. They actually surprised the world, nobody would have thought that Messi will lift the cup after that 2:1 defeat. As for the Argentine Keeper, he best utilized his skills when it was mostly needed. They were deeply prepared for the French players in all forms, and all they did was to bring out the best in them, which the keeper was not an exception. He deserves the Golden boot indeed, though no side of the team should be given more credit than the other, if the attackers didn't score they wouldn't have been a room for the penalty shoot out where the keeper sold his best keeping skills to the world.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 20, 2022, 10:35:26 PM

The penalty conceded by Argentina in the 80th minute not just put Argentina in the backfoot, but it also stole the golden boot from Lionel Messi. Without the two penalty kicks, Kylian Mbappe could have never overtaken Messi. And in both cases, the penalty was unnecessary. I am glad that Messi received the Golden Ball award (Silver Boot as well). Luka Modrić received the Bronze Ball, and Olivier Giroud won the Bronze Boot, and both of them deservingly so. The only award in which I had issue was the Golden Glove being given to Emiliano Martínez. I thought that Dominik Livaković or Yassine Bounou deserved it better.

Regarding Emiliano Martinez, I have to appreciate it. that FiFa gave him the Golden Gloves, he deserved it. The reason is, he was able to bring Argentina to win the world cup in Qatar. there was a lot that the goalkeeper from Argentina did, and one of the most brilliant saves by Martinez was made exactly 20 seconds before added time in the last extra period. Martinez also made a save on France's second kick, Kingsley Coman who advanced as the executor failed to beat Martinez because the direction of his shot was predictable. not to mention the penalty shoot-out match against the Netherlands. So, he really deserved it.

As for Mbappe, even though he created two of his three goals from the penalty spot. that is what makes him the top scorer and only one goal difference from Messi. and the fact that he scored a goal was inescapable. and he deserves it. should, Messi also has the potential. but unfortunately, he was unable to add to his tally. and Messi must be willing, that it is Mbappe who has the right to get the golden boot. after all, Messi is the best player in this world cup championship. and I think, the result has been set and no one can change it.

In essence, I say to all who have excelled at the Qatar world championship yesterday.

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Mbappe have achieved so much in his age and have made records of what some superstars didn't do in their reign. Appearing twice in world cup which he won the cup and now he is the highest goal scorer this time. He most might want to leave PSG to another club that will pay him more. Real Madrid might be one his list,he is still young and can still appear in three more world cup before retirement, he has an innocent look but very dangerous when it come to scoring goals.

maybe he will be the top scorer again in the next world cup considering that many of the greatest players are currently of course retired like messi, ronaldo and others at the 2026 world cup, mbappe has quality skills in scoring goals so he needs a lot of experience too in other clubs or other leagues so that he becomes a goal scoring machine and becomes the greatest player in the future, especially since he is still relatively young, he needs a lot of experience in football

Mbappe is already a scoring machine. You could say he has already achieved everything Messi or Ronaldo have achieved, perhaps even more. He was able to score three goals in the World Cup final, that's saying a lot. As for Ronaldo, I think Portugal already have a new replacement for him, it's the young player who came out in his place, Joao Felix. I liked the way he performed at this championship.

Mbappe scored as much goals in 23 years which Messi and Ronaldo scored in 35 or 37 years if thier age . I find him much better and strong than many experienced players.
He has a long future ahead of him in football if he's leaving PSG there will be many clubs who'll be willing to take him at his terms. The point is he chooses correctly for him and grow more in football .

It is different and I think Mbappe is favored compared to Messi and Ronaldo because all the team plays for him,we saw that in the final that every single player was trying to support him and they did a great move by doing so as he was able to bring France up to the penalty kicks which decided the fate of the game.

Nor Messi nor Ronaldo have been supported so much as Mbappe despite them being team leaders in their national team,still they have not gotten as much as Mbappe has had during the tournament,nevertheless I agree Mbappe scored 12 World Cup goals,the same as Pele so far.

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Mbappe have achieved so much in his age and have made records of what some superstars didn't do in their reign. Appearing twice in world cup which he won the cup and now he is the highest goal scorer this time. He most might want to leave PSG to another club that will pay him more. Real Madrid might be one his list,he is still young and can still appear in three more world cup before retirement, he has an innocent look but very dangerous when it come to scoring goals.

maybe he will be the top scorer again in the next world cup considering that many of the greatest players are currently of course retired like messi, ronaldo and others at the 2026 world cup, mbappe has quality skills in scoring goals so he needs a lot of experience too in other clubs or other leagues so that he becomes a goal scoring machine and becomes the greatest player in the future, especially since he is still relatively young, he needs a lot of experience in football

Mbappe is already a scoring machine. You could say he has already achieved everything Messi or Ronaldo have achieved, perhaps even more. He was able to score three goals in the World Cup final, that's saying a lot. As for Ronaldo, I think Portugal already have a new replacement for him, it's the young player who came out in his place, Joao Felix. I liked the way he performed at this championship.

Mbappe scored as much goals in 23 years which Messi and Ronaldo scored in 35 or 37 years if thier age . I find him much better and strong than many experienced players.
He has a long future ahead of him in football if he's leaving PSG there will be many clubs who'll be willing to take him at his terms. The point is he chooses correctly for him and grow more in football .

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Quote from: Daltonik on December 21, 2022, 02:56:04 AM

Yes, it also seems to me that it was the game in the final that decided the fate of the golden gloves prize in favor of Argentina goalkeeper Emiliano Martinez, which he certainly deserved by making several key saves, turning the match into a penalty shootout.

Yeah! after all, it was he who minimized their enemy's score so that they won't have any problem catching with it throughout the game it was a success and he truly deserved the award. Most likely he did his best to depend on and in which he managed to depend well for them to win the Championship which was their goal from the start. It was a truly hard-fought battle since they came from a loss to Saudi Arabia and they managed to keep fighting and never lose after that.

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Quote from: piebeyb on December 21, 2022, 04:34:13 AM

Quote from: Merit.s on December 20, 2022, 04:43:24 PM

Mbappe have achieved so much in his age and have made records of what some superstars didn't do in their reign. Appearing twice in world cup which he won the cup and now he is the highest goal scorer this time. He most might want to leave PSG to another club that will pay him more. Real Madrid might be one his list,he is still young and can still appear in three more world cup before retirement, he has an innocent look but very dangerous when it come to scoring goals.

maybe he will be the top scorer again in the next world cup considering that many of the greatest players are currently of course retired like messi, ronaldo and others at the 2026 world cup, mbappe has quality skills in scoring goals so he needs a lot of experience too in other clubs or other leagues so that he becomes a goal scoring machine and becomes the greatest player in the future, especially since he is still relatively young, he needs a lot of experience in football

Mbappe is already a scoring machine. You could say he has already achieved everything Messi or Ronaldo have achieved, perhaps even more. He was able to score three goals in the World Cup final, that's saying a lot. As for Ronaldo, I think Portugal already have a new replacement for him, it's the young player who came out in his place, Joao Felix. I liked the way he performed at this championship.

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Quote from: Merit.s on December 20, 2022, 04:43:24 PM

Mbappe have achieved so much in his age and have made records of what some superstars didn't do in their reign. Appearing twice in world cup which he won the cup and now he is the highest goal scorer this time. He most might want to leave PSG to another club that will pay him more. Real Madrid might be one his list,he is still young and can still appear in three more world cup before retirement, he has an innocent look but very dangerous when it come to scoring goals.

maybe he will be the top scorer again in the next world cup considering that many of the greatest players are currently of course retired like messi, ronaldo and others at the 2026 world cup, mbappe has quality skills in scoring goals so he needs a lot of experience too in other clubs or other leagues so that he becomes a goal scoring machine and becomes the greatest player in the future, especially since he is still relatively young, he needs a lot of experience in football

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Quote from: Daltonik on December 21, 2022, 02:56:04 AM

Yes, it also seems to me that it was the game in the final that decided the fate of the golden gloves prize in favor of Argentina goalkeeper Emiliano Martinez, which he certainly deserved by making several key saves, turning the match into a penalty shootout.

Yes the way Emiliano Martínez changed the fate of Argentina at last minute by saving penalty shootout that made him get that golden glove . He has definitely a major role in Argentina's victory after Messi. If he couldn't save those penalty shootout France would have been world champions again now.

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Yes, it also seems to me that it was the game in the final that decided the fate of the golden gloves prize in favor of Argentina goalkeeper Emiliano Martinez, which he certainly deserved by making several key saves, turning the match into a penalty shootout.

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