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newbie
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May 18, 2013, 10:06:13 PM
#66
The value of BTC will increase when WIII comes.
newbie
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May 18, 2013, 09:35:17 PM
#65
If the internet survives then cryptocurrency will survive.


Doubt it.

Even if the internet survives, what benefit can bitcoin give? The main benefit of internet is to facilitate communication and make deal (exchange). The actual exchange of good still requires unrestricted border movement and transportation infrastructure intact for it to happen.

In a total war scenario, one can not buy basic necessity 200 miles away from where one is.

 


Agreed.
Considering the South Hemisphere which there is almost zero movement in Bitcoin economy because of taxes and exchanges to get USD, THEN trade in bitcoins, in a world war scenario the prices would dramatically fall if this war affect the big portion of the net. But thinking in South America, especifically Brazil, these same countries just entering in the crypto economy, all pacifists, there's a a way to save the network, imo.
legendary
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May 18, 2013, 09:04:21 PM
#64
WW3 will never happen with bombs and bullets, but rather bits and bytes.

Besides, seeing as how the world is so economically entwined...even the bad guys know it would be a pyrrhic victory at best even if they did come out on top.

This is why China still hasn't taken over itty bitty Taiwan.

Risk ticking off their biggest trading partner? nawwww.
newbie
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May 18, 2013, 08:52:33 PM
#63
To answer your question: Should WWIII happen BTC will become essentially worthless as will any other currency.
 
 
 
member
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May 18, 2013, 08:02:57 PM
#62
Interesting to ready replies. More interesting to see how fast it went off-topic.
How relevant the bitcoins would've been in the stone age?
newbie
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May 18, 2013, 07:50:39 PM
#61
There are rumors of war everywhere as you guys know...

I can write a whole book showing evidence for WWIII coming really soon... and my question for you is.. What kind of influence do you think such a war would have on Bitcoin?

WWIII has already started, IMO. When we look back decades from now, I believe Iraq and Afghanistan will be considered the opening salvos of WWIII. The United States is not going to be on the right side of history.

Hard to say how it will impact bitcoin. Given the West's push for global military and banking hegemony, I believe bitcoin will probably be one of the next targets by governments and TBTF financial institutions.
newbie
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May 18, 2013, 05:56:55 PM
#59
it would likely cease to exist
member
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May 18, 2013, 05:33:02 PM
#58

Feel free to continue.  The occasional source document would improve your presentation.

Just keep speaking English since it proves my point every time you open your mouth.

Here, let me help you with that rant...


Of course how silly of me. Pictures are always a pretty sight.
For example this aerial picture of Omaha beach after it was "won". Notice the craters from the 13000 bombers the americans insisted to use during the landings. Oh wait... there is none. All the bombs missed and took out a few land mines inland instead which alerted the Germans if anything.

Great job assaulting one of the longest beaches in France during low tide btw.

Even worse your ass was saved that day because your special forces failed their mission to capture an (empty) gun emplacement on a nearby bluff. The troops that won Omaha beach should never even have been there if their friends had not fuck things up royally. Victory through incompetence?

Want a picture of the most flammable tank in WW2?

Still nice and toasty. American tax money burning before your eyes.

No lets get serious for a moment. Cold hard facts incoming:
Casualties for Western front (This is you guys Cheesy )
Allied: 2,905,420–3,043,860 casualties
Axis: 997,386–1,000,256 casualties
Great job guys you really showed them!
The germans only had like a 3-1 Kill /death ratio while full on losing. Thats not so bad right? Luckily the Russians saved your ass by occupying the vast majority of the German army from stomping your ass into oblivion.
full member
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May 18, 2013, 04:59:38 PM
#57
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What I mean is that countries like America might not survive long enough to fight seriously if they get cut off from certain key trading partners. Especially food and oil.

Food

The US exports food.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_power

China and Russia depend on food imports.



Oil

The US oil production is rising and will soon exceed domestic consumption.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/14/us-oil-surge-transforms-markets-undercuts-opec/

China is a net importer of oil.



So, explain to me again why the "mericans" should bother to come to the assistance of yet another ungrateful nation "over there"?

Remind me again how much of that food power you got there that is actually consumed by people and not wasted on cattle?


http://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0712/top-agricultural-producing-countries.aspx
Figure it out for yourself.



Regarding the Oil. Perhaps I was wrong about the supply but you will still run into allot of problems trust me.


So rather than reference any kind of fact, you are asking me to take your word?   Roll Eyes




Alright *Cracks his fingers* What was the largest role America played during WW2? What is the role we have to thank you for? The arms dealer. You took the money, produced the weapons and equipment then got rich. Fair enough. But what have you to be proud of? That your troops arrived to Europe equipped for WW1? That some of your troops had British tin can helmets from WW1 all through WW2? The "Ronson" tank that never failed to light up after the first strike? There are plenty of stories of how entrenched Germans only got overwhelmed because you had more burning tanks then they had anti tank rounds.

You hardly got involved on the West front and even then the war was on the East front with 80 to 65% of the Nazi army fighting the Russians (the number went down when they got crushed and moved a bit to engage the west)

Then we have the "largest naval war" in WW2... In a land based conquest thats not a very hard title to get btw so good job. Your navy and air force fiercely engaged crazy Japanese soldiers with planes made out of wood. Seriously aside from their navy and motivation there was nothing exceptional about the Japanese during WW2 and dont come to me with the kamikaze bullshit. All it did was give you 3 hours of repair woopdedooo. Then you became the first country to use a Nuke (2 to be exact) against another country. On hindsight not that great of an idea if you ask me MR annihilator of citizens. Seriously talk about throwing stones in a glass house with the accusations against nazi war crimes.

Shall i go on? Perhaps you want to talk about Omaha beach? How about the golden age after the war fueled from the spoils of war? Id love to talk about how you fire bombed cities also.

Feel free to continue.  The occasional source document would improve your presentation.

Just keep speaking English since it proves my point every time you open your mouth.

Here, let me help you with that rant...

member
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May 18, 2013, 04:37:25 PM
#56
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What I mean is that countries like America might not survive long enough to fight seriously if they get cut off from certain key trading partners. Especially food and oil.

Food

The US exports food.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_power

China and Russia depend on food imports.



Oil

The US oil production is rising and will soon exceed domestic consumption.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/14/us-oil-surge-transforms-markets-undercuts-opec/

China is a net importer of oil.



So, explain to me again why the "mericans" should bother to come to the assistance of yet another ungrateful nation "over there"?

Remind me again how much of that food power you got there that is actually consumed by people and not wasted on cattle?
Regarding the Oil. Perhaps I was wrong about the supply but you will still run into allot of problems trust me.

Alright *Cracks his fingers* What was the largest role America played during WW2? What is the role we have to thank you for? The arms dealer. You took the money, produced the weapons and equipment then got rich. Fair enough. But what have you to be proud of? That your troops arrived to Europe equipped for WW1? That some of your troops had British tin can helmets from WW1 all through WW2? The "Ronson" tank that never failed to light up after the first strike? There are plenty of stories of how entrenched Germans only got overwhelmed because you had more burning tanks then they had anti tank rounds.

You hardly got involved on the West front and even then the war was on the East front with 80 to 65% of the Nazi army fighting the Russians (the number went down when they got crushed and moved a bit to engage the west)

Then we have the "largest naval war" in WW2... In a land based conquest thats not a very hard title to get btw so good job. Your navy and air force fiercely engaged crazy Japanese soldiers with planes made out of wood. Seriously aside from their navy and motivation there was nothing exceptional about the Japanese during WW2 and dont come to me with the kamikaze bullshit. All it did was give you 3 hours of repair woopdedooo. Then you became the first country to use a Nuke (2 to be exact) against another country. On hindsight not that great of an idea if you ask me MR annihilator of citizens. Seriously talk about throwing stones in a glass house with the accusations against nazi war crimes.

Shall i go on? Perhaps you want to talk about Omaha beach? How about the golden age after the war fueled from the spoils of war? Id love to talk about how you fire bombed cities also.
legendary
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May 18, 2013, 04:36:01 PM
#55
People never know that they are in a world war in the early stages of that war. Its all up to this historians. I suspect though that historians may mark this -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP1Za-xu8r0 as the beginning of world war 3.
newbie
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sr. member
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May 18, 2013, 04:22:29 PM
#53
Interesting to ready replies. More interesting to see how fast it went off-topic.
full member
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May 18, 2013, 04:19:21 PM
#52
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Good points; hell, America has so much food, it has to burn it; it even pays farmers to stop farming, because there's too much fucking food.

But if America was cut off from China, who would make all those little plastic figurines?

Not a problem.  We cut off food and oil imports to China until they give us as many of those little plastic figurines as we want.

This points out how easy that would be.


full member
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May 18, 2013, 04:17:05 PM
#51
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Actually we got an eagle already. The Black Eagle that almost conquered the world during WW2 and WW1. Germany. Besides dont get me started on what America did and did not do during WW2. I dont want to crush your dreams.

The thing is... No one hates us so why would we be attacked? On the other hand everyone hates you so your a prime target. Remember 9/11? Yeah... your the one they want.

You are welcome to submit to that black eagle again, if that is your preference.

As for my dreams about what America did and did not do during WW2, bring it on.  You might be surprised about my knowledge of military history.  Not just US military history but world military history.  Let's just call it a hobby of mine.


I remember 9/11.


The fact that the US is targeted by terrorists correlates with the US being involved in the world "over there".  No US presence, no US target.


Tell me again, why should those "merikans" save your ass the next time it is in a sling?


legendary
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May 18, 2013, 04:12:38 PM
#50
snip

Good points; hell, America has so much food, it has to burn it; it even pays farmers to stop farming, because there's too much fucking food.

But if America was cut off from China, who would make all those little plastic figurines?
member
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May 18, 2013, 04:07:29 PM
#49
I honestly wonder exactly how many countries will jump in to aid America. I get the feeling that most are tired of their bullshit. Its not like they are going to turn on America but exactly how willing are they to help?

I would say a better question is will the US act to protect those countries who are not supporting the US today?

It is only recently that the US has taken an "aggressive" position on the world stage.  Up until WW2, the US was isolationist to the Western Hemisphere.  In the words of Fowler, "Pushy Americans, always showing up late for every war. Overpaid, oversexed, and over here."  Getting the US to come to the Great War and then to WWII was not easy.  Convincing the US to stay engaged in Europe following WWII was not easy either.  Following the end of the Cold War, there was significant domestic pressure to "bring the boys home".  There is no guarantee that the US would jump in to aid yet another foreign nation, especially given that we are sick and tired of being played for the bad guy by the same ass-hats we save.

Next time some fascist, socialist or theocratic dictatorship decides he wants to occupy your homeland, rape your women, steal your wealth and burn your crops remember that there is no guarantee the "merikans" will show up.  We don't have to.  We are safe and secure behind our oceans.  So, before you chose to bad mouth the "merikan" go visit the Normandy American Cemetery and Memorial and ask yourself what the world would be like without "merikans" on the beaches of Nomandy.

Good luck facing the Russian bear and the Chinese dragon without the "merican" eagle.

Actually we got an eagle already. The Black Eagle that almost conquered the world during WW2 and WW1. Germany. Besides dont get me started on what America did and did not do during WW2. I dont want to crush your dreams.

The thing is... No one hates us so why would we be attacked? On the other hand everyone hates you so your a prime target. Remember 9/11? Yeah... your the one they want.
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
May 18, 2013, 04:04:32 PM
#48
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What I mean is that countries like America might not survive long enough to fight seriously if they get cut off from certain key trading partners. Especially food and oil.

Food

The US exports food.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_power

China and Russia depend on food imports.



Oil

The US oil production is rising and will soon exceed domestic consumption.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/14/us-oil-surge-transforms-markets-undercuts-opec/

China is a net importer of oil.



So, explain to me again why the "mericans" should bother to come to the assistance of yet another ungrateful nation "over there"?
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
May 18, 2013, 03:53:55 PM
#47
I honestly wonder exactly how many countries will jump in to aid America. I get the feeling that most are tired of their bullshit. Its not like they are going to turn on America but exactly how willing are they to help?

I would say a better question is will the US act to protect those countries who are not supporting the US today?

It is only recently that the US has taken an "aggressive" position on the world stage.  Up until WW2, the US was isolationist to the Western Hemisphere.  In the words of Fowler, "Pushy Americans, always showing up late for every war. Overpaid, oversexed, and over here."  Getting the US to come to the Great War and then to WWII was not easy.  Convincing the US to stay engaged in Europe following WWII was not easy either.  Following the end of the Cold War, there was significant domestic pressure to "bring the boys home".  There is no guarantee that the US would jump in to aid yet another foreign nation, especially given that we are sick and tired of being played for the bad guy by the same ass-hats we save.

Next time some fascist, socialist or theocratic dictatorship decides he wants to occupy your homeland, rape your women, steal your wealth and burn your crops remember that there is no guarantee the "merikans" will show up.  We don't have to.  We are safe and secure behind our oceans.  So, before you chose to bad mouth the "merikan" go visit the Normandy American Cemetery and Memorial and ask yourself what the world would be like without "merikans" on the beaches of Nomandy.

Good luck facing the Russian bear and the Chinese dragon without the "merican" eagle.
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