Would people pour their cash into bitcoin given a stock market crash? - page 4.

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Quote from: Harley997 on June 08, 2014, 11:42:58 PM

That article is nothing more then speculation. No one really knows then there will be a stock market crash. If they did not certainly would not advertise it, they would simply sell stocks short and buy put options.

To answer your question, a stock market crash would cause the price of BTC to fall as stock market crashes cause people to become more risk adverse and BTC carries a lot of risk.

We are likely to keep seeing a nominale increase in the price of stocks as the FED prints more USD and the USA goes into more debt to buy some growth and some time
Companies that are natural ressources related or sell in the so called developing work will fare greatly but a market crash or two and a few big wars will happen before the developing countries become richer than most the western world

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That article is nothing more then speculation. No one really knows then there will be a stock market crash. If they did not certainly would not advertise it, they would simply sell stocks short and buy put options.

To answer your question, a stock market crash would cause the price of BTC to fall as stock market crashes cause people to become more risk adverse and BTC carries a lot of risk.

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Possibly, the reason I say this is that they would require a bit more technical knowledge on the aspects of Bitcoin to invest in it
That said Bitcoin happens to be one of the best and worst performing assets depending on when you bought your Bitcoins and also one of the largest return profits.
It might have changed with the rise of altcoins but the risk return may be higher than a traditional stock investment.

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Quote from: Ron~Popeil on June 04, 2014, 12:15:06 AM

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Quote from: Slingshot on June 03, 2014, 08:00:47 PM

LOL, these clowns are so transparent. What losers...

What next? More bailouts for Losers?

And maybe Bonuses too, all for Failures?

These same types would have one believe that Government Bonds and debt based fiat are sound, strong stores of value. But it's not true.

NO more bailouts for LOSERS. No more bonuses for failure and to keep their key employee dummies quiet so as to not turn states evidence.

No more debt-based fiat. It's mid-evil.

did i see you at the Occupy rally? lmfao =)

i side with the occupy people a lot more than i do wall street.

They had some valid points but got a little extreme with some of their demands. They also failed to turn it into a political movement unfortunately.

i think they were stupid enough to not organize. they probably thought that organizing leads to corruption, but you can't really get anything done when everybody is swinging in different directions.

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Quote from: beetcoin on June 03, 2014, 09:48:20 PM

Quote from: BBmodBB on June 03, 2014, 08:43:33 PM

Quote from: Slingshot on June 03, 2014, 08:00:47 PM

LOL, these clowns are so transparent. What losers...

What next? More bailouts for Losers?

And maybe Bonuses too, all for Failures?

These same types would have one believe that Government Bonds and debt based fiat are sound, strong stores of value. But it's not true.

NO more bailouts for LOSERS. No more bonuses for failure and to keep their key employee dummies quiet so as to not turn states evidence.

No more debt-based fiat. It's mid-evil.

did i see you at the Occupy rally? lmfao =)

i side with the occupy people a lot more than i do wall street.

good one!~ so wise where do you think the movement started? Cool

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Quote from: beetcoin on June 03, 2014, 09:48:20 PM

Quote from: BBmodBB on June 03, 2014, 08:43:33 PM

Quote from: Slingshot on June 03, 2014, 08:00:47 PM

LOL, these clowns are so transparent. What losers...

What next? More bailouts for Losers?

And maybe Bonuses too, all for Failures?

These same types would have one believe that Government Bonds and debt based fiat are sound, strong stores of value. But it's not true.

NO more bailouts for LOSERS. No more bonuses for failure and to keep their key employee dummies quiet so as to not turn states evidence.

No more debt-based fiat. It's mid-evil.

did i see you at the Occupy rally? lmfao =)

i side with the occupy people a lot more than i do wall street.

They had some valid points but got a little extreme with some of their demands. They also failed to turn it into a political movement unfortunately.

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Quote from: BBmodBB on June 03, 2014, 08:43:33 PM

Quote from: Slingshot on June 03, 2014, 08:00:47 PM

LOL, these clowns are so transparent. What losers...

What next? More bailouts for Losers?

And maybe Bonuses too, all for Failures?

These same types would have one believe that Government Bonds and debt based fiat are sound, strong stores of value. But it's not true.

NO more bailouts for LOSERS. No more bonuses for failure and to keep their key employee dummies quiet so as to not turn states evidence.

No more debt-based fiat. It's mid-evil.

did i see you at the Occupy rally? lmfao =)

i side with the occupy people a lot more than i do wall street.

BBmodBB

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BTC = FREEDOM IS OUR ONLY HOPE!

Quote from: Slingshot on June 03, 2014, 08:00:47 PM

LOL, these clowns are so transparent. What losers...

What next? More bailouts for Losers?

And maybe Bonuses too, all for Failures?

These same types would have one believe that Government Bonds and debt based fiat are sound, strong stores of value. But it's not true.

NO more bailouts for LOSERS. No more bonuses for failure and to keep their key employee dummies quiet so as to not turn states evidence.

No more debt-based fiat. It's mid-evil.

did i see you at the Occupy rally? lmfao =)

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LOL, these clowns are so transparent. What losers...

What next? More bailouts for Losers?

And maybe Bonuses too, all for Failures?

These same types would have one believe that Government Bonds and debt based fiat are sound, strong stores of value. But it's not true.

NO more bailouts for LOSERS. No more bonuses for failure and to keep their key employee dummies quiet so as to not turn states evidence.

No more debt-based fiat. It's mid-evil.

BBmodBB

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Quote from: kerafym on June 02, 2014, 10:30:28 AM

Quote from: boumalo on June 02, 2014, 10:16:40 AM

I think people will put their fiat into bitcoins when the inflation will get huge even measured by the official numbers and when the financial system will vibrate

Real estate is a less risky way to hedge inflation.

You should tell that to all the MBS holders from the Aug 2007 credit market seizures ... they turned illiquid (i.e. worthless) overnight.

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Eventually bitcoin may even cause a stock market crash

and after the fiat price has tanked a lot, smart bitcoin holders may re-invest in bitcoin-friendly and future-proof companies extremely cheap. Of course not their entire bitcoin stash, but a moderate amount of it.

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Quote from: nickenburg on June 02, 2014, 11:24:57 AM

Always when the stockmarket crash, there is so much panic in the media.
I just hope they wont take bitcoin down with them when that happens.
I know stocks and bitcoin are not related at all, but it can certainly happen people just pulling all there investment money back, to there wallets just to be safe.
Another scenario will indeed be people putting money in bitcoins because the stockmarket will be a bad place to invest for a while.
We will have to see what happens if there will be another stockmarket crash.

Stock market crashes will affect bitcoin price negatively.

A shortage of liquidity will mean high interest rate. People who borrow to speculate on bitcoin need to sell at any price to pay back loan. A higher interest rate also means money is better park at high yield bond than using it to hold bitcoin.

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Always when the stockmarket crash, there is so much panic in the media.
I just hope they wont take bitcoin down with them when that happens.
I know stocks and bitcoin are not related at all, but it can certainly happen people just pulling all there investment money back, to there wallets just to be safe.
Another scenario will indeed be people putting money in bitcoins because the stockmarket will be a bad place to invest for a while.
We will have to see what happens if there will be another stockmarket crash.

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One can profit from bitcoin trading. Many believe that bitcoin trading is the future of trading because of the big potential profit it has thanks to the big price shifts. This bares some certain risk as well though. But when it comes to storing value, I don't thik that bitcoin would be the most reasonable way to do it. Through the ages, gold was used as a store of value. It's been proven that it can be used as a store of value for milleniums. However, in today's world bitcoin has a bigger potential to be used as an actual currency.

So it really depends on someone's needs.

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Quote from: boumalo on June 02, 2014, 10:16:40 AM

I think people will put their fiat into bitcoins when the inflation will get huge even measured by the official numbers and when the financial system will vibrate

Real estate is a less risky way to hedge inflation.

boumalo

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I think people will put their fiat into bitcoins when the inflation will get huge even measured by the official numbers and when the financial system will vibrate

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At this stage I don't think they would trust bit coin yet. I prefer they stay out as I would rather have solid growth than panic buying followed by profit taking etc.

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People would probably not pour their money into BTC after a stock market crash.

They would likely put money into ultrasafe investments.

The price of BTC and stocks (very risky investments) are correlated at least in the short term, and in the absence of other BTC related news.

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Quote from: BBmodBB on May 29, 2014, 07:04:17 PM

i'm still hodling lehman bro bonds lmao!!!=O

I hope they are paying you back then. I read recently some Leh bonds sold for 100, bought at 20 cents on the dollar after bankruptcy have no returned more then the original 100. Ie. there was nothing wrong with the debt, it was viable. This mostly applies to the european side of the business apparently, that was dragged under. Even the USA based bonds should return money in many cases apparently, it just might take ten or twenty years

Sub prime Im not sure what the deal is, did it really all goto zero. Except I read about demo groups like the wallstreet protesters buying housing debt and then releasing the home owners from the debt, or distributing the assets to the community. Obviously that is charity as the bond has returned zero in that case

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