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Topic: Would you kill your own children if God commanded you to? - page 14. (Read 9690 times)

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Yes...
if it is indeed God that commanded it..
It could be for a greater good...
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But God would never ask such a thing..
and im not derailing the topic...
im just saying my point and what i believe
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Would you kill your own children if God commanded you to?
A perfectly valid legit question.

Please no attempts to derail the thread with nonsense like "God would never say that" or "God would never change the rules with murder" etc....



If it is indeed a god command I must do
Allah enjoins the Muslims to follow his orders and stay away from any restrictions
For me Muslims, the command of god (Allah) is absolute
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If it is the command of god then I will do it, like the story of one of the prophets who almost killed with his father because for the sacrifice, before being killed finally god lowered the goat instead, eventually it was just a test to test the faith of his people.

This is plain unbelievable. You are capable of posting in English and even then you are having such crazy and lunatic views? I don't expect a computer literate person (in his normal mental state) to murder his own child, even if he is having the hallucination that god orders him to do that. The story of the prophets is a myth. You need to separate myths from real life.
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no way>>>>>>

it was in the past God commanded you, now God will never ask you to kill your kids

God could not even ask to kill a child, because he is a creator and he is interested in saving lives, not annihilation. It's only the mentally ill can claim that God commands them to kill someone.

That is exactly right, people who hear or see God are mentally sick.

People who believe in this God fantasy, are ill informed to say it politely.

Basically, they are delusional.
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It's personal

I have an idea you may be referencing Genesis 22 where God commands Abraham to sacrifice his son of promise, Isaac? If you are implicitly referring to this story, then it's not as straightforward as it seems, namely a deranged old psycho trying to murder his son, if taken form the standpoint of the complete context (whole story) of which this particular chapter forms only a small part, and also taken within the larger religio-cultural context and time frame the story is told, which is ancient to say the least. First off, the boy's mother conceived the child at a miraculous age of 91. Second, a covenant was made wholly by El Shaddai (17:2 I will make a covenant between us..) which is also quite unusual according to the customs of ancient middle east. The nuanced details that color the the background to the developing plot of sacrifice of the boy-of-covenant-promise in chapter 22 is actually heart wrenchingly beautiful once you understand the whole context of the ancient tale, since it underscores quite dramatically what complete trust is all about. The story's main focus is not about (and never was intended to be about) killing of a son, but about whether Abraham completely trusted God. It is reasoned by some religious people that the story implicates the faith that Abraham must have had in God's ability to resurrect Isaac from the dead.

PS: the problem with religious texts is that they are often taken literally as part of divine doctrinal mandate and then all sorts of bad things start to happen when believers apply those mandates as set forth in their holy books. I do not support the text as having any "divine inspiration" to be obeyed to the letter. It is, at best, an intriguing tale of an imaginary powerful deity and his relationship with one of his most faithful followers.

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If it is the command of god then I will do it, like the story of one of the prophets who almost killed with his father because for the sacrifice, before being killed finally god lowered the goat instead, eventually it was just a test to test the faith of his people.

According to ten commandments, we should not kill people because it is a major sin. If God command me to kill, I will not follow him because God didn't want to do it, maybe he is just testing our faith to him. God didn't want to have us a miserable life so if we continue pray and have faith to him, we can have a better life because that is God want us to do.
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If it is the command of god then I will do it, like the story of one of the prophets who almost killed with his father because for the sacrifice, before being killed finally god lowered the goat instead, eventually it was just a test to test the faith of his people.
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I´ll never kill my own blood just cuz some god command me to...
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I would never do that, I would never kill my children because someone told me to do so.
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Aminazine would resolve that kind of issues without need to kill anyone.
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no way>>>>>>

it was in the past God commanded you, now God will never ask you to kill your kids

This argument may be true for those religions, which have reformed with the progress of civilization, such as Hinduism, Buddhism, and Christianity. But there are some religions, which are still stuck in the stone age.

Okay, now this is legit concern, Sithara.

But suicide order from the leader of sect XY isnt much different than military draft by government. Both essentially claiming authority over life and death of your son, because of power. Forcing you to comply with violence if neccessary.

As to Islam and the debate, if its stone age or not. Scripture of muslims also doesnt blatantly say to kill your offspring, what it does is to give vague description of self sacrifice. Ie. muslims, who die defending other muslims are regardless of any and all of their sins allowed to enter paradise. Some twisted fanatics may and indeed do translate that into sacrificing their children in jihad. It is horrible problem, but not the norm or even standartly taught in many of islams schools (sufis in particular known for non-violence). Logically entire muslim population would be dead in several generations if that was the case.

You are right, that similar concepts are mostly absent in various manifestations of Christianity, Hinduism or Buddhism. Christianity in particular even denying proper church burial to people guilty of suicide.
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no way>>>>>>

it was in the past God commanded you, now God will never ask you to kill your kids

God could not even ask to kill a child, because he is a creator and he is interested in saving lives, not annihilation. It's only the mentally ill can claim that God commands them to kill someone.
So you think that God is the Creator. In fact, the creators of your parents. Besides do not forget that with you in the name of God said to the priests. I admit that they can call for the murder to their advantage.
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no way>>>>>>

it was in the past God commanded you, now God will never ask you to kill your kids

God could not even ask to kill a child, because he is a creator and he is interested in saving lives, not annihilation. It's only the mentally ill can claim that God commands them to kill someone.
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no way>>>>>>

it was in the past God commanded you, now God will never ask you to kill your kids

This argument may be true for those religions, which have reformed with the progress of civilization, such as Hinduism, Buddhism, and Christianity. But there are some religions, which are still stuck in the stone age.
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no way>>>>>>

it was in the past God commanded you, now God will never ask you to kill your kids
Your funny in the past Cheesy
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no way>>>>>>

it was in the past God commanded you, now God will never ask you to kill your kids
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So about 1 in 5 people would kill their children for god WOW.
So 1 in 5 children sleep with 1 eye open in case the parent kill them..

Also i hope who ever voted to kill their own children i hope your getting WATCHED Cheesy..
ISIS is nothing compared to you..Unless you are ISIS Cheesy..

If you are ENJOY killing yourselves  Wink..One less nutter on this planet..


Did it occur to you, that those voting "yes" are trolls like Moloch?  Wink Just a little conspiracy theory for you right there.

If that is being the case, you are being trolled right now.

It is clear as day, that poll was made by western atheist. Otherwise, there would be some polling options even for theists. Regardless of their particular faith or culture.

What's the meaning of Troll to do such a survey? Maybe it's the opposite of religion interested in such surveys to know how many people are dependent on them. For example, Muslim children are used as suicide bombers.in the name of Allah.
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Would you kill your own children if God commanded you to?
A perfectly valid legit question.

Please no attempts to derail the thread with nonsense like "God would never say that" or "God would never change the rules with murder" etc....



What kind of question is this, God will not put you into this type of trial. It's already been done by Abraham to his son Isaac.
Religion can get you killed ..HIGHLY TOXIC..
If you don't follow they ways of your books it can get you killed..
And parents even kill their own children for not following the ways of their books..I.E FAIRY TALES..

CRAZY PEOPLE if you ask me..

Look even religion as got me in someway ..If my daughter run out in the street naked i would be very angry with her ..Wouldn't kill her though NOT EVER no matter what she done..

BUT if your in the JUNGLE they run out NAKED ALL DAY ..All the bits hanging out and everything..
Now if in Pakistan if one of their daughters done it they be dead..

So you see even religion has got a grip of me in someway..

Jungle people don't care they never known our 3 main religions so go out naked without a care in the world..
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yes , but it is very difficult to do!
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Would you kill your own children if God commanded you to?
A perfectly valid legit question.

Please no attempts to derail the thread with nonsense like "God would never say that" or "God would never change the rules with murder" etc....



What kind of question is this, God will not put you into this type of trial. It's already been done by Abraham to his son Isaac.
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