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Quote from: Gianluca95 on June 13, 2022, 09:15:35 AM

Also my country is suffering so much this war and price of oil at the moment is so high. But this are the circumstances of some mistakes made during the years. We were too much influenced from the

supply of Oil & Gas from Russia and now we're paying consequences.

Of course the sanctions hurt us, but we still must stand up and speak our minds. Everyone must be aware of the consequences, but they still want to fight. We must stand up together, united. I support the boycotts and sanctions against the Russia for their actions. This is the only way to show our serious reaction to these kinds of events. We must stand up and unite. Putin has got a lot of cards in his hands and I think he will go for the whole basket. The United States in return, will want to show their power and will increase their military support in the region. I believe that we can survive without our gas supplies from Russia. We will survive, we still can make alternative supplies, but it takes time. I do not like these sanctions against Russia, because it harms my country and it harms the economy of my country. But, at the same time, these sanctions are a way of showing that you will not allow this kind of things to happen, and showing the unity of Europe.

I just find it unfair that the innocent ones have to suffer too. I know the people in Ukraine even civilians are being killed due to the conflict, but isn't that enough lesson already to set aside impulsiveness and hatred? Because there are already people dying and there are a lot of businesses and structures that has been damaged already due to being self-righteous of Putin. For me, we're supposed to be more compassionate and empathetic rather becoming more like him.

Sadly, sometimes we lose track of ourselves in the process of loathing someone that we become the people we hate. I know that there are people dying and with that, we shouldn't add more. Boycotting these sites means downfall of the owners and their livelihood. During this time of calamity where covid-19 is still evolving and isn't totally eliminated yet, and having a conflict between Russia and Ukraine, with these challenges, people are still facing a lot of struggles. Struggle to get by is the problem of the majority. I hope we don't inflict more pain to those people who are suffering already.

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Quote from: Gianluca95 on June 13, 2022, 09:15:35 AM

Also my country is suffering so much this war and price of oil at the moment is so high. But this are the circumstances of some mistakes made during the years. We were too much influenced from the

supply of Oil & Gas from Russia and now we're paying consequences.

Of course the sanctions hurt us, but we still must stand up and speak our minds. Everyone must be aware of the consequences, but they still want to fight. We must stand up together, united. I support the boycotts and sanctions against the Russia for their actions. This is the only way to show our serious reaction to these kinds of events. We must stand up and unite. Putin has got a lot of cards in his hands and I think he will go for the whole basket. The United States in return, will want to show their power and will increase their military support in the region. I believe that we can survive without our gas supplies from Russia. We will survive, we still can make alternative supplies, but it takes time. I do not like these sanctions against Russia, because it harms my country and it harms the economy of my country. But, at the same time, these sanctions are a way of showing that you will not allow this kind of things to happen, and showing the unity of Europe.

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Quote from: Newlifebtc on June 13, 2022, 11:04:38 AM

Putin is the seater of Russian and it can not leave the office of president of Russia until it end for so many countries no of their president that stays longer than what you putin have stayed in office i don't know if Russian rotate the seat of presidents or it is given according to culture and traditions depending the family background because we our own practice Democratic system of government and with three years on seat you leave next person will assume seat

Every government has a regime and I know soon, the regime for president Putin is going to be over soon but I think he is making way for himself so he can still be the president after his regime. We need to know that Putin is a powerful man is he's one of the most power man in the world. He has ammunition, military and war equipments he can use to destroy any country.

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Quote from: swogerino on June 13, 2022, 08:08:09 AM

Now that Putin has clearly weaponized food I think everyone should boycott everything from Russia.The leaders of EU are the first to start to get away from Russian oil and gas dependency but this will take time as not any from these leaders predicted a full scale war in the heart of Europe in the year 2022.

I find it really strange that Russian population doesn't complain about what Putin is doing,isolating the country from the all world at a point where different leaders like Macron has called once (later regreted) that the world must not humiliate Putin face and called for peace negotiations.

The people of Russia, no matter how strange it may sound, began to support putin more precisely after he began aggression against Ukraine and this is a very sad fact, I judge simply by my environment. To quite specific questions why did you change your position, people simply respond with the cliches that they hear from TV, russian citizens are extremely divided and intimidated, many simply confuse cause and effect, they are not ready to defend their rights, much less to put forward political demands.

It is very sad to look at what is happening, it seems to me that only the complete demilitarization of Russia and, as a result, the deprivation of imperial ambitions will help.

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Quote from: Theones on June 13, 2022, 08:00:05 AM

The crisis the world is going through is due to Putin. I wish he would have thought of the trouble he is putting the world into.
At first place he attacked Ukraine when Pakistani PM was there for an official visit. See how the Pakistani politics and the PM was attacked by USA. I wish PM of Pakistan should not have visited the Russia. They didn't care for anyone but for themselves. Period.

It will be very hard for Putin to leave the seat of being a president of Russia. I had that he is making an attempt to amend the country constitution in a way that he will be able to stay in power for as long as he wants. How I wished this war will end as soon as possible so the the Ukrainians can go back to their country and make it strong again.

Putin is the seater of Russian and it can not leave the office of president of Russia until it end for so many countries no of their president that stays longer than what you putin have stayed in office i don't know if Russian rotate the seat of presidents or it is given according to culture and traditions depending the family background because we our own practice Democratic system of government and with three years on seat you leave next person will assume seat

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Quote from: marcous on June 13, 2022, 10:04:17 AM

Quote from: Gianluca95 on June 13, 2022, 09:15:35 AM

Where do you live? Also my country is suffering so much this war and price of oil at the moment is so high. But this are the circumstances of some mistakes made during the years. We were too much influenced from the

supply of Oil & Gas from Russia and now we're paying consequences.

Many European Union countries that depend on oil and gas exports from Russia will greatly affect the price increase, maybe for countries that are not pro Russia will suffer from oil and gas scarcity, if the supply of oil and gas of European Union countries is getting minimal then they will face the consequences of oil and gas scarcity.

I agree that how many countries became dependent on oil and gas from Russia was a huge political and economic mistake. Unfortunately, we will all feel the consequences of such a mistake. However, a few months are enough and the demand will be covered from other sources. Then the boycotts and sanctions against Russia will have to take effect, otherwise Russia will reverse economically by decades. In the 21st century, no one should be allowed to act like a barbarian.

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Quote from: Gianluca95 on June 13, 2022, 09:15:35 AM

Where do you live? Also my country is suffering so much this war and price of oil at the moment is so high. But this are the circumstances of some mistakes made during the years. We were too much influenced from the

supply of Oil & Gas from Russia and now we're paying consequences.

Many European Union countries that depend on oil and gas exports from Russia will greatly affect the price increase, maybe for countries that are not pro Russia will suffer from oil and gas scarcity, if the supply of oil and gas of European Union countries is getting minimal then they will face the consequences of oil and gas scarcity.

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Quote from: Marvelman on February 27, 2022, 04:19:25 PM

Considering the current events in Ukraine and the open aggression from Russia, what are your thoughts on the collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms in support of Ukraine?

We know that 1xBET and 1xBit are owned by Russians. Do you know any more? Could we make a list of all Russian-owned casinos?

I'd love to support an initiative to help Ukraine! I think it would be great if we all raised our voices together and supported it.

I don't like so much to boycott everything that is connected with Russia. I guess as always that neutrality should be the better thing, and to fight against the wair. In 2022 there shouldn't be any type of war but only peace.

I strongly condamn Russia for what they are doing in this moment, but why boycott a website that hasn't nothing to do with them?

The world needs Russian oil our country is in badly need of that and the Russian government offers to subsidize our country because of this our country has to take a no stance to get that much-needed oil, our country is suffering from the very high oil price, this is one situation where countries become a victim of what's happening to other countries if only our country is rich in oil they will never change our stance.

Where do you live? Also my country is suffering so much this war and price of oil at the moment is so high. But this are the circumstances of some mistakes made during the years. We were too much influenced from the

supply of Oil & Gas from Russia and now we're paying consequences.

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Quote from: Gianluca95 on June 13, 2022, 08:28:15 AM

Quote from: Marvelman on February 27, 2022, 04:19:25 PM

Considering the current events in Ukraine and the open aggression from Russia, what are your thoughts on the collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms in support of Ukraine?

We know that 1xBET and 1xBit are owned by Russians. Do you know any more? Could we make a list of all Russian-owned casinos?

I'd love to support an initiative to help Ukraine! I think it would be great if we all raised our voices together and supported it.

I don't like so much to boycott everything that is connected with Russia. I guess as always that neutrality should be the better thing, and to fight against the wair. In 2022 there shouldn't be any type of war but only peace.

I strongly condamn Russia for what they are doing in this moment, but why boycott a website that hasn't nothing to do with them?

The world needs Russian oil our country is in badly need of that and the Russian government offers to subsidize our country because of this our country has to take a no stance to get that much-needed oil, our country is suffering from the very high oil price, this is one situation where countries become a victim of what's happening to other countries if only our country is rich in oil they will never change our stance.

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Quote from: Marvelman on February 27, 2022, 04:19:25 PM

Considering the current events in Ukraine and the open aggression from Russia, what are your thoughts on the collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms in support of Ukraine?

We know that 1xBET and 1xBit are owned by Russians. Do you know any more? Could we make a list of all Russian-owned casinos?

I'd love to support an initiative to help Ukraine! I think it would be great if we all raised our voices together and supported it.

I don't like so much to boycott everything that is connected with Russia. I guess as always that neutrality should be the better thing, and to fight against the wair. In 2022 there shouldn't be any type of war but only peace.

I strongly condamn Russia for what they are doing in this moment, but why boycott a website that hasn't nothing to do with them?

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Quote from: Theones on June 13, 2022, 08:00:05 AM

The crisis the world is going through is due to Putin. I wish he would have thought of the trouble he is putting the world into.
At first place he attacked Ukraine when Pakistani PM was there for an official visit. See how the Pakistani politics and the PM was attacked by USA. I wish PM of Pakistan should not have visited the Russia. They didn't care for anyone but for themselves. Period.

It will be very hard for Putin to leave the seat of being a president of Russia. I had that he is making an attempt to amend the country constitution in a way that he will be able to stay in power for as long as he wants. How I wished this war will end as soon as possible so the the Ukrainians can go back to their country and make it strong again.

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Now that Putin has clearly weaponized food I think everyone should boycott everything from Russia.The leaders of EU are the first to start to get away from Russian oil and gas dependency but this will take time as not any from these leaders predicted a full scale war in the heart of Europe in the year 2022.

I find it really strange that Russian population doesn't complain about what Putin is doing,isolating the country from the all world at a point where different leaders like Macron has called once (later regreted) that the world must not humiliate Putin face and called for peace negotiations.

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Quote from: n0ne on June 12, 2022, 06:58:32 PM

Russia always have some plans to come out of the problem while a part of the world is looking for ways to keep it isolated from the rest of the world. A complete boycott isn't necessary, because everyone aren't supporting the war. We need to see it as a form of business, just because the country is into war we cannot make its people suffer. Russia have got restrictions in the participation of different sporting activities, in my opinion that too is not necessary because every sportsman is talking about peace and they never want war.

Indeed, not every Russian citizen is supporting the war their president has declared against Ukraine. Some people still have empathy and compassion on them. It will just makes things worse if ever the boycotting will be supported because the innocent ones will suffer and bear the consequences of the thing they can't control to begin with. This will be unfair to those gambling site and casino owners who just want to make a living.

Perhaps what should be done is to make a thoroughly research about the stance of these Russian gambling owners to the conflict happening between their country anc neighboring country, Ukraine. If it will be proven that they indeed support the violent activities of their leader, then that's the right time to boycott.

The boycott is just a proposition for those who think the war started by Russia is a bad thing. As you wrote, Putin is the democratically elected president of Russia, so if what the president does does not appeal to the citizens, they can change him. Unfortunately, I have not heard about the negative statements of Russian citizens, on the contrary, they seem to support what Putin is doing.

in my country we had that Putin the presidents of Russian is over there since 11 good years or 13 good years so if the citizen really want to remove him front seat of president I think the subordinate or President Putin will not allow citizens to express their feelings about the removal of president so one thing that I don't understand is that I don't know if the governance of Russian by putting is welcomed by the citizens of Russians but if it's not welcome many people we have allocated for it removal

The crisis the world is going through is due to Putin. I wish he would have thought of the trouble he is putting the world into.
At first place he attacked Ukraine when Pakistani PM was there for an official visit. See how the Pakistani politics and the PM was attacked by USA. I wish PM of Pakistan should not have visited the Russia. They didn't care for anyone but for themselves. Period.

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Quote from: Erdogan on June 13, 2022, 12:31:43 AM

Quote from: AicecreaME on June 13, 2022, 12:25:17 AM

Quote from: n0ne on June 12, 2022, 06:58:32 PM

Russia always have some plans to come out of the problem while a part of the world is looking for ways to keep it isolated from the rest of the world. A complete boycott isn't necessary, because everyone aren't supporting the war. We need to see it as a form of business, just because the country is into war we cannot make its people suffer. Russia have got restrictions in the participation of different sporting activities, in my opinion that too is not necessary because every sportsman is talking about peace and they never want war.

Indeed, not every Russian citizen is supporting the war their president has declared against Ukraine. Some people still have empathy and compassion on them. It will just makes things worse if ever the boycotting will be supported because the innocent ones will suffer and bear the consequences of the thing they can't control to begin with. This will be unfair to those gambling site and casino owners who just want to make a living.

Perhaps what should be done is to make a thoroughly research about the stance of these Russian gambling owners to the conflict happening between their country anc neighboring country, Ukraine. If it will be proven that they indeed support the violent activities of their leader, then that's the right time to boycott.

The boycott is just a proposition for those who think the war started by Russia is a bad thing. As you wrote, Putin is the democratically elected president of Russia, so if what the president does does not appeal to the citizens, they can change him. Unfortunately, I have not heard about the negative statements of Russian citizens, on the contrary, they seem to support what Putin is doing.

in my country we had that Putin the presidents of Russian is over there since 11 good years or 13 good years so if the citizen really want to remove him front seat of president I think the subordinate or President Putin will not allow citizens to express their feelings about the removal of president so one thing that I don't understand is that I don't know if the governance of Russian by putting is welcomed by the citizens of Russians but if it's not welcome many people we have allocated for it removal

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Quote from: Erdogan on June 12, 2022, 05:19:17 PM

Quote from: popeye95 on June 12, 2022, 11:17:21 AM

A boycott needs to have a good sense of justification to rally people under its banner and support its cause. I don't see a boycott of all Russian gambling platforms can archive this mean. Worse, it seen going too far and doesn't really help the cause of Ukraine right now. You need to provide proof that Russian gambling platforms tie to the Russia government or any good reasons why the boycott of all Russian gambling platforms helps Ukraine's cause.

The reason for this boycott is very clear: casinos pay taxes -> taxes go to russia's budget -> russia's budget supports the war. The boycott is intended to ensure that less money is spent on supporting the war, which may lead to the war ending a little earlier.

If the tendency to close the casino here is also from Russia, it will not really have a significant effect here, but considering that the industry is here, but not the place here, but always talking about revenue and they can do it if really touching. It would not be like giving numbers, but whether there is a fight or a solitary confinement from here to boycott a porn, whether it has helped their economic development or not, will not be included here. I do not understand anything

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Quote from: AicecreaME on June 13, 2022, 12:25:17 AM

Quote from: n0ne on June 12, 2022, 06:58:32 PM

Russia always have some plans to come out of the problem while a part of the world is looking for ways to keep it isolated from the rest of the world. A complete boycott isn't necessary, because everyone aren't supporting the war. We need to see it as a form of business, just because the country is into war we cannot make its people suffer. Russia have got restrictions in the participation of different sporting activities, in my opinion that too is not necessary because every sportsman is talking about peace and they never want war.

Indeed, not every Russian citizen is supporting the war their president has declared against Ukraine. Some people still have empathy and compassion on them. It will just makes things worse if ever the boycotting will be supported because the innocent ones will suffer and bear the consequences of the thing they can't control to begin with. This will be unfair to those gambling site and casino owners who just want to make a living.

Perhaps what should be done is to make a thoroughly research about the stance of these Russian gambling owners to the conflict happening between their country anc neighboring country, Ukraine. If it will be proven that they indeed support the violent activities of their leader, then that's the right time to boycott.

The boycott is just a proposition for those who think the war started by Russia is a bad thing. As you wrote, Putin is the democratically elected president of Russia, so if what the president does does not appeal to the citizens, they can change him. Unfortunately, I have not heard about the negative statements of Russian citizens, on the contrary, they seem to support what Putin is doing.

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Quote from: n0ne on June 12, 2022, 06:58:32 PM

Russia always have some plans to come out of the problem while a part of the world is looking for ways to keep it isolated from the rest of the world. A complete boycott isn't necessary, because everyone aren't supporting the war. We need to see it as a form of business, just because the country is into war we cannot make its people suffer. Russia have got restrictions in the participation of different sporting activities, in my opinion that too is not necessary because every sportsman is talking about peace and they never want war.

Indeed, not every Russian citizen is supporting the war their president has declared against Ukraine. Some people still have empathy and compassion on them. It will just makes things worse if ever the boycotting will be supported because the innocent ones will suffer and bear the consequences of the thing they can't control to begin with. This will be unfair to those gambling site and casino owners who just want to make a living.

Perhaps what should be done is to make a thoroughly research about the stance of these Russian gambling owners to the conflict happening between their country anc neighboring country, Ukraine. If it will be proven that they indeed support the violent activities of their leader, then that's the right time to boycott.

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Russia always have some plans to come out of the problem while a part of the world is looking for ways to keep it isolated from the rest of the world. A complete boycott isn't necessary, because everyone aren't supporting the war. We need to see it as a form of business, just because the country is into war we cannot make its people suffer. Russia have got restrictions in the participation of different sporting activities, in my opinion that too is not necessary because every sportsman is talking about peace and they never want war.

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Russia and Ukraine suffered heavy losses during the war. In many ways, Russia bets a lot. Because the main source of BET is Russia.If we make a list of bets then Russia will come first. And the cryptocurrency has suffered the most since the war between Russia and Ukraine, where cryptocurrency prices have to fall.

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Quote from: popeye95 on June 12, 2022, 11:17:21 AM

A boycott needs to have a good sense of justification to rally people under its banner and support its cause. I don't see a boycott of all Russian gambling platforms can archive this mean. Worse, it seen going too far and doesn't really help the cause of Ukraine right now. You need to provide proof that Russian gambling platforms tie to the Russia government or any good reasons why the boycott of all Russian gambling platforms helps Ukraine's cause.

The reason for this boycott is very clear: casinos pay taxes -> taxes go to russia's budget -> russia's budget supports the war. The boycott is intended to ensure that less money is spent on supporting the war, which may lead to the war ending a little earlier.

Wont really be giving out some significant effects even if they do tend to close all of casinos in Russia considering that this industry is big but not into this place or lets do talk about revenue that they could make which wont really be that giving mindblowing numbers which means that it wont really be that significant nor worth on boycotting.Just tend or look alone on what industries that they do have
been supporting the economic development? This wont really include out gambling which does simply shows that it wont really be that much of an issue even if its totally eradicated or removed.

Of course, it won't have a huge impact on the course of the war, but it is one of the things that can peacefully shorten the war and save a few lives. In my opinion, doing anything, such as boycotting for example, is better than watching people murder passively.

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