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Quote from: Marvelman on February 27, 2022, 04:19:25 PM

Considering the current events in Ukraine and the open aggression from Russia, what are your thoughts on the collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms in support of Ukraine?

We know that 1xBET and 1xBit are owned by Russians. Do you know any more? Could we make a list of all Russian-owned casinos?

I'd love to support an initiative to help Ukraine! I think it would be great if we all raised our voices together and supported it.

If We Boycott Some Russian Gambling Platforms, Nothing Will Happen in Russia In order to do any work, we all have to decide together and do that work.There are a lot of people who are supporting Russia, but they will be the opposition here.All we have to do is work together. Some people can't succeed in any work.If you want to boycott anything in Russia, you have to boycott it all together.

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Quote from: Desmong on June 13, 2022, 03:03:02 PM

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Putin is the seater of Russian and it can not leave the office of president of Russia until it end for so many countries no of their president that stays longer than what you putin have stayed in office i don't know if Russian rotate the seat of presidents or it is given according to culture and traditions depending the family background because we our own practice Democratic system of government and with three years on seat you leave next person will assume seat

Every government has a regime and I know soon, the regime for president Putin is going to be over soon but I think he is making way for himself so he can still be the president after his regime. We need to know that Putin is a powerful man is he's one of the most power man in the world. He has ammunition, military and war equipments he can use to destroy any country.

Power is something that corrupts every human being, and when you have power like Putin's it is something beyond normal, just seeing that in countries like Venezuela their rulers want to remain in power indefinitely, as well as Cuba, and they have the particularity that they are not "nuclear" powers, Russia has nuclear power, that is why anyone who messes with Russia messes with a very powerful fort, the war between Ukraine and Russia is already something else for me of geo-politics, for this reason when we go to other areas, such as business of anything, for me it does not make sense that they be blocked, Putin should be blocked but not his people, the majority of Russians I am sure that They do not want war or invasion, if in the Russian media they say that they have the support of the people, it is hard to believe, they are under a regime that controls absolutely everything.

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Quote from: Mauser on June 20, 2022, 05:48:45 AM

Nato stated last week that they expect the Russia Ukraine war to last for several years to come. Russian military is planning up to the next 6 months. Everything looks like there won't be a quick end in sight for this war. Are we really prepared to keep the sanctions up for several years? Already now all the major economies are hurting, global growth is slowing down and inflation is rising. I am not sure if we can keep that up. I am also not saying that there shouldn't be international consequences for Russian, but there should be compromise. Same goes for the gambling industry, boycotting might work for a short period of time, but will we really be able to hold it for long? What if the Russian casinos start to offer really favourable promotions that would make some profits for us? I think eventually we have to look after ourselves and what is best for us.

It will be a good things if Ukraine can have a dialogue with the Russian president to find an alternate way to earn this war cause things are getting worse everyday. Everybody is going to face the outcome of this war including the nato that had been sending ammunition to Ukraine to strength their milliary power. The war just have to end so everything can go back to normal.

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Quote from: Mauser on June 20, 2022, 05:48:45 AM

Nato stated last week that they expect the Russia Ukraine war to last for several years to come. Russian military is planning up to the next 6 months. Everything looks like there won't be a quick end in sight for this war. Are we really prepared to keep the sanctions up for several years? Already now all the major economies are hurting, global growth is slowing down and inflation is rising. I am not sure if we can keep that up. I am also not saying that there shouldn't be international consequences for Russian, but there should be compromise. Same goes for the gambling industry, boycotting might work for a short period of time, but will we really be able to hold it for long? What if the Russian casinos start to offer really favourable promotions that would make some profits for us? I think eventually we have to look after ourselves and what is best for us.

The whole crowd will trun to Russian gambling site to get some profits out of it. And there is no harm in doing that. Since the official think of their benefits. Noone is going to help a poor person unless he will help himself. I hope I get the intimation at the right time if Russian open the platforms to the world.

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Nato stated last week that they expect the Russia Ukraine war to last for several years to come. Russian military is planning up to the next 6 months. Everything looks like there won't be a quick end in sight for this war. Are we really prepared to keep the sanctions up for several years? Already now all the major economies are hurting, global growth is slowing down and inflation is rising. I am not sure if we can keep that up. I am also not saying that there shouldn't be international consequences for Russian, but there should be compromise. Same goes for the gambling industry, boycotting might work for a short period of time, but will we really be able to hold it for long? What if the Russian casinos start to offer really favourable promotions that would make some profits for us? I think eventually we have to look after ourselves and what is best for us.

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Quote from: swogerino on June 20, 2022, 02:55:43 AM

Strategically as I said Russia has already lost this war and even worse now will have Finland who share a large part of the border 1300 Km with Russia as part of Nato.The reason why this war started to not let Ukraine be part of Nato has failed miserably for Russia.Russian citizens are paying the bill of extreme isolation but the Kremlin government seems to not give a damn about their citizens.

War is never a solution - no-one wins it. There are looses and damages on both the side. The after-affect remains for long.
Imposing what is on your mind may lead to utter devastation. However - Russians are not easy to defeat. They have oil and gas and the world won't be able to survive with out it. Too early for the Ukraine to celebrate.

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Quote from: Theones on June 19, 2022, 04:48:07 AM

Quote from: swogerino on June 17, 2022, 09:08:24 AM

In fact shutting Russia is the only way to restore peace,if Russia is not stopped then sure thing they will want to go and conquer all of Ukraine,that was their main goal in the beginning but that is the missed strategical win which Russia was hoping to get in 12 hours as documented by secret UK services (not verified independently yet but I like to believe the Western democracies more than autocratic regimes like Russia),now they are focused to get Donbas which still are failing at it.Russia is the aggressor,the aggressor needs to be punished in every possible way,even with sanctions and closing every relation with them,isolating them from the Western world and letting them deal only with India and China.

This war has left an impact on the whole world. I don't support any country I only wish the issues to be resolved through dialogues. But then again USA have their own benefits. The Kashmir is in trouble for years but noone rise voice for them. No One imposed any sanction on India.

You want dialogue after Putin/Russia destroyed entire cities and lives of innocent people,also committed tons of war crimes as documented ?Russia has already lost this war no matter if they continue killing innocent people and "liberating" Donbas,even if they do so they can't keep it for long as they have shown with territories under their occupation.I personally agree 100% with Boris Johnson who says that if we turn back on Ukraine now,we should be ready to fight Russia on our own land as they won't stop,their delusional thinking makes them think they need to be an imperial of some kind.Of course they will never get past Ukraine as all other Baltic countries are part of Nato except a few of them.

Strategically as I said Russia has already lost this war and even worse now will have Finland who share a large part of the border 1300 Km with Russia as part of Nato.The reason why this war started to not let Ukraine be part of Nato has failed miserably for Russia.Russian citizens are paying the bill of extreme isolation but the Kremlin government seems to not give a damn about their citizens.

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Quote from: swogerino on June 17, 2022, 09:08:24 AM

In fact shutting Russia is the only way to restore peace,if Russia is not stopped then sure thing they will want to go and conquer all of Ukraine,that was their main goal in the beginning but that is the missed strategical win which Russia was hoping to get in 12 hours as documented by secret UK services (not verified independently yet but I like to believe the Western democracies more than autocratic regimes like Russia),now they are focused to get Donbas which still are failing at it.Russia is the aggressor,the aggressor needs to be punished in every possible way,even with sanctions and closing every relation with them,isolating them from the Western world and letting them deal only with India and China.

This war has left an impact on the whole world. I don't support any country I only wish the issues to be resolved through dialogues. But then again USA have their own benefits. The Kashmir is in trouble for years but noone rise voice for them. No One imposed any sanction on India.

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The war is a very disturbing thing right now but, shutting Russia and Russians out isn't going to bring the peace between these worlds. I can't tell what that could could but, this war needs to end already.

In fact shutting Russia is the only way to restore peace,if Russia is not stopped then sure thing they will want to go and conquer all of Ukraine,that was their main goal in the beginning but that is the missed strategical win which Russia was hoping to get in 12 hours as documented by secret UK services (not verified independently yet but I like to believe the Western democracies more than autocratic regimes like Russia),now they are focused to get Donbas which still are failing at it.Russia is the aggressor,the aggressor needs to be punished in every possible way,even with sanctions and closing every relation with them,isolating them from the Western world and letting them deal only with India and China.

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Quote from: Erdogan on June 12, 2022, 05:19:17 PM

Quote from: popeye95 on June 12, 2022, 11:17:21 AM

A boycott needs to have a good sense of justification to rally people under its banner and support its cause. I don't see a boycott of all Russian gambling platforms can archive this mean. Worse, it seen going too far and doesn't really help the cause of Ukraine right now. You need to provide proof that Russian gambling platforms tie to the Russia government or any good reasons why the boycott of all Russian gambling platforms helps Ukraine's cause.

The reason for this boycott is very clear: casinos pay taxes -> taxes go to russia's budget -> russia's budget supports the war. The boycott is intended to ensure that less money is spent on supporting the war, which may lead to the war ending a little earlier.

Nice words. And of course you are right, but show me, please, online cryptocurrency Russian casino that pays taxes in russian`s budget? When you asked me - i gave you links proving my words.
This casino are registered in different countries like Panama. And taxes they pay to Panama`s budget. So i don`t think that it can stop war.

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Quote from: Doan9269 on June 15, 2022, 04:44:27 PM

Quote from: Smartvirus on June 15, 2022, 03:48:21 PM

we seem or should I say some users seem to be focused on sanctions just so

I really want to believe that sanction can go a long way in dealing with a country's offense as it instills pains that could cause of regret to taken actions or steps, but if we consider sport games generally, we will all understand the need why sanction does not need to go further into this realm of action for the Russians because indirectly is the people paying for the price and consequences, football in particular is a game the units people together from all nation just to derive some benefits.

That's right and this is how racism builds up especially if those country join the sanction starting to get angry with all Russian citizens. And we already see that this sanction didn't really bring any good effects on the economy and it bring crisis to almost all of the country so better if more country will not join in this anymore because we know this will prolong the war because this could ignite more anger to both sides.

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Quote from: Theones on June 15, 2022, 03:53:09 PM

Quote from: Smartvirus on June 15, 2022, 03:48:21 PM

The war is a very disturbing thing right now but, shutting Russia and Russians out isn't going to bring the peace between these worlds. I can't tell what that could could but, this war needs to end already.

Such a long discussion on this topic has already been made. I wonder why this forum is still open.
Having said this - now as we see after COVID affect - we have also started experiencing the after affect of Russian war. A mix of both COVID and War has placed the world in another situation - COWAR!

This is something terrifying, I never imagined living something like that in my life, since it is small, everything was very beautiful, there was no hazard, the countries developed body advanced more, now I see that there is more violence, children who kill children, children, children, Young people who kill children in schools, people who are interested in wars because they somehow obtain dividends or certain business opportunities open at the expense of blood in a war, if Russia take the beto to sell oil, the stock market rates of the oil would drop a lot of price making the current price reach very low levels of price, and a Russian business boycott would generate unemployment and frustration for those who have only that work, and you have to deal with pandemics, this seems as if we were living the same apocalypse.

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Quote from: Smartvirus on June 15, 2022, 03:48:21 PM

we seem or should I say some users seem to be focused on sanctions just so

I really want to believe that sanction can go a long way in dealing with a country's offense as it instills pains that could cause of regret to taken actions or steps, but if we consider sport games generally, we will all understand the need why sanction does not need to go further into this realm of action for the Russians because indirectly is the people paying for the price and consequences, football in particular is a game the units people together from all nation just to derive some benefits.

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Quote from: Smartvirus on June 15, 2022, 03:48:21 PM

The war is a very disturbing thing right now but, shutting Russia and Russians out isn't going to bring the peace between these worlds. I can't tell what that could could but, this war needs to end already.

Such a long discussion on this topic has already been made. I wonder why this forum is still open.
Having said this - now as we see after COVID affect - we have also started experiencing the after affect of Russian war. A mix of both COVID and War has placed the world in another situation - COWAR!

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on June 14, 2022, 09:05:35 PM

The truth is that I condemn any act that is against humanity, I think that people need to have many opportunities, I have seen how some athletes from Russia cry when the doors are closed to them, above all I do not share the fact that they have been kicked out of the World Cup, it is something that It's not fair, besides Wales was the country that went through in the playoffs, which seemed cruel but fair to me, so if unfair things like these are seen in sport, I think that in business too, in every country there are people who have businesses, the owners can be good or bad, but I prefer that there are people who dedicate themselves to having their businesses and after losing them they dedicate themselves to something else that is bad, sometimes for some people, bad is the fastest way to get to make a profit, so sometimes people don't see this, that's why boycotts against Russian businesses don't seem to me.

This is something that most of us have failed to see because, we choose to be one sided on the story, we seem or should I say some users seem to be focused on sanctions just so, the aggressor as we may see it being Russia in this case doesn't get funds from supportive citizens to finance the war in the defence of its country and we completely disregard the fact that, a lot of them may not be in this fight and we love them to almost nothing by cutting of there means to som livelihood.
When you sanction and try to cable all that is involved with Russia and Russians, what do you live them to? These guys needs to finance there day to day activities and you could be rest assured that, this could lead to crime and civil unrest where ever they are found.

The war is a very disturbing thing right now but, shutting Russia and Russians out isn't going to bring the peace between these worlds. I can't tell what that could could but, this war needs to end already.

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Quote from: Silberman on June 15, 2022, 02:32:53 PM

Quote from: bitgov on June 11, 2022, 07:01:42 PM

Media did a vital role is spreading the war. And bringing Russia down, but all the sanctions have not done any harm to the Russia or did it?
Now EU is in trouble for the oil and gas supply - buying the oil from India and India buying the oil from Russia - what a strange circle.

For the people that use their common sense without a doubt this is something that may not seem to make sense, but for the politicians this makes all the sense in the world, they sell themselves as people that care about the tragedy that is happening at Ukraine, put sanctions to Russia and then buy overpriced oil and gasoline from India while increasing the energy costs all over Europe, at the end nothing was achieved but they get to say they did something, which is what they are really after as it improves their public image.

Not to emphasis about background or underground intents aside on the main talks about invasion yet i do believe that there were other plans aside from this which its not something surprising actually.

We've seen lots of sanctions happen but it seems that they arent affected and rather instead having those no choice situation since Russia is main supplier on various resources which other neighboring
countries would end up on having no choice but to purchase or make dealings with them.

Boycotts could really happen but that wont really be enough on stopping this war.

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Quote from: bitgov on June 11, 2022, 07:01:42 PM

Media did a vital role is spreading the war. And bringing Russia down, but all the sanctions have not done any harm to the Russia or did it?
Now EU is in trouble for the oil and gas supply - buying the oil from India and India buying the oil from Russia - what a strange circle.

For the people that use their common sense without a doubt this is something that may not seem to make sense, but for the politicians this makes all the sense in the world, they sell themselves as people that care about the tragedy that is happening at Ukraine, put sanctions to Russia and then buy overpriced oil and gasoline from India while increasing the energy costs all over Europe, at the end nothing was achieved but they get to say they did something, which is what they are really after as it improves their public image.

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Quote from: Desmong on June 13, 2022, 03:03:02 PM

Quote from: Newlifebtc on June 13, 2022, 11:04:38 AM

Putin is the seater of Russian and it can not leave the office of president of Russia until it end for so many countries no of their president that stays longer than what you putin have stayed in office i don't know if Russian rotate the seat of presidents or it is given according to culture and traditions depending the family background because we our own practice Democratic system of government and with three years on seat you leave next person will assume seat

Every government has a regime and I know soon, the regime for president Putin is going to be over soon but I think he is making way for himself so he can still be the president after his regime. We need to know that Putin is a powerful man is he's one of the most power man in the world. He has ammunition, military and war equipments he can use to destroy any country.

I'm not sure that the regime of President Putin will end soon because if he continues to be supported by his people, then Putin's government will still run. Putin seems to know that if he wants to stay in power, he must take care of his people and not let them suffer. That's the key that not all governments know and understand.

So supported by ammunition and military equipment and his people, he can rule and maybe he will be in power for a long time. But we really hope that the war will end soon.

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Quote from: bitgov on May 23, 2022, 01:18:20 PM

The world has become a difficult place to live now. While everywhere the people, organization and institutions are preaching peace. The practice is otherwise. We wish to see the bright and sunny days where there is no bloodshed. But I wish of something which is impossible.

All of us want to see the light and peace as soon as possible. But it should be within those affected people and in the middle of the war, the war should stop asap.
Because it's the damage that it's done not just on the entire land but also to the mental health and minds of those people is going to live there forever. That's traumatizing and you know when someone's on that state of mind, it's one of the hardest thing to deal with and it will take time to heal and recover.

Yes, you are absolutely right about that, in fact the number of families that have mourned due to this conflict is very large, in fact such ugly things have happened worldwide, I have seen a lot of news that there are pedophiles, of people who children arrive and kill and I am a person who believes in the things of God Heavenly Father and what we are experiencing is biblical, all these things have to happen, in addition to the conflict in Ukraine and Russia, on the other hand there is talk of another between China and Taiwan, USA of course has participation there, so this would be another boycott for China and for those countries that come into conflict, honestly, we all lose here.

Due to preventing having a getting of the territory they make an action it will become sooner at peace hopefully the both sides and the leaders makes an agreement about it and also there's no conflict happen to the other country at the same time because it will become chaos still we have a pandemic right now and there's a lot of family affected.

The truth is that I condemn any act that is against humanity, I think that people need to have many opportunities, I have seen how some athletes from Russia cry when the doors are closed to them, above all I do not share the fact that they have been kicked out of the World Cup, it is something that It's not fair, besides Wales was the country that went through in the playoffs, which seemed cruel but fair to me, so if unfair things like these are seen in sport, I think that in business too, in every country there are people who have businesses, the owners can be good or bad, but I prefer that there are people who dedicate themselves to having their businesses and after losing them they dedicate themselves to something else that is bad, sometimes for some people, bad is the fastest way to get to make a profit, so sometimes people don't see this, that's why boycotts against Russian businesses don't seem to me.

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Quote from: marcous on June 13, 2022, 10:04:17 AM

Quote from: Gianluca95 on June 13, 2022, 09:15:35 AM

Where do you live? Also my country is suffering so much this war and price of oil at the moment is so high. But this are the circumstances of some mistakes made during the years. We were too much influenced from the

supply of Oil & Gas from Russia and now we're paying consequences.

Many European Union countries that depend on oil and gas exports from Russia will greatly affect the price increase, maybe for countries that are not pro Russia will suffer from oil and gas scarcity, if the supply of oil and gas of European Union countries is getting minimal then they will face the consequences of oil and gas scarcity.

That is why Russian is very brave in waging a war thinking that the world cannot keep up without their oil and gas, the countries that have the greatest impact are the third world countries that relies on export for their energy, one of these is my country if the energy is depleted many companies will shut down, that is why many countries have a neutral stance, they just cannot keep up without the energy, on this war we have proven that oil is the best weapon, you can keep your ally and many will not take a stance because the fate of their country lies on oil support.

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