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Money power is the biggest thing here. It costs a lot of money to run a war, and when a country becomes economically weak, it is forced to end the war. But because many countries are dependent on Russian oil, those countries are buying oil from Russia even after various sanctions. And since Russia is able to sell oil, their money supply is not being cut off. Boycotting gambling websites depends on gamblers making their own decisions. Because if they think that this war in Russia is immoral, they can stand against Russia.
USA thinks Russia is like Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, Syra and Pakistan. But they are wrong. Russians have strong defence and they can fight back. Also the weather conditions in Russia are so intense that hardly any country can fight with them. It is the survival of the fittest. The fit one wins. . No One can help other country - but only them.
The boycott attempt is not effective, the sanctions are not that strong enough to stop Russia and let’s admit it, Russia is really powerful and look at their economy right now they are still doing good despite of the sanctions. The war might last longer until Russia destroy the whole Ukraine, it looks like they wont stop even there’s an international intervention. Russia sends a clear message here, and maybe this is the reason why other countries don’t want to make any move that might affect them later on. Its between Ukraine and Russia now, and I hope Ukraine can still survive.
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Money power is the biggest thing here. It costs a lot of money to run a war, and when a country becomes economically weak, it is forced to end the war. But because many countries are dependent on Russian oil, those countries are buying oil from Russia even after various sanctions. And since Russia is able to sell oil, their money supply is not being cut off. Boycotting gambling websites depends on gamblers making their own decisions. Because if they think that this war in Russia is immoral, they can stand against Russia.
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Wont really be enough i must say but if they would be tend to boycott for some ethical thing to be done then its not a bad action but expect that it wont make out significant effect.

According to Wikipedia, as of 3 May 2022, more than 1200 companies had withdrawn from Russia or divested themselves from Russian ties, either as a result of sanctions or in protest of Russian actions [1]. Many of these boycotts will not actually have a large economic impact which could indirectly affect the Russian government, but more importantly it sets a strong precedent and a strong political and moral message to Russia and to Russia's allies.

Whether or not the recent sanctions and boycotts will impact the Russian government, however, is still in question. Many Russians still support President Putin and his desire to restore his country to its place as the preeminent global superpower and, from their perspective, Russia's need to take whatever steps are necessary to accomplish this goal.

Nevertheless, it is clear that the international community is united in its opposition to the policies of President Putin and that we are finally acting as one in calling on Russia to change its behavior. Whether this will make a difference or not, remains to be seen, but the actions of the international community are making a difference.


[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_boycott_of_Russia_and_Belarus
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I think this kind of restriction will have a effect on the Russian economy though it is little bit car be great impact. We are all suffering a lot as a result of the war in Ukraine. Meanwhile, inflation is rising. There is a shortage of food grains. None of us want a war. Although most Russians do not want this war, their Putin government wants it to continue. It is never worthy of support. Since they are not stopping in any way, there is no other way but to give various restrictions.
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Considering sanctions and boycotting of Russia gambling platforms, my opinion about it is to know if it will in anyway have effects on them. I understand that major sanctions have been given them but it didn't stop the invasion. Will the gambling sanctions worth it?
I think if the gambling platforms in Russia are boycotted, it will not affect the Russian government or Puttin himself but rather ordinary Russians that are struggling to meet up needs.

All gambling websites are owned by ordinary people not the Russian government. Now if we boycott the Russian gambling website, it will naturally have an effect on those ordinary people. The war is not stopping even after so many sanctions have been imposed against Russia. Because Russia's oil power is the real power, they are exporting oil during this war and the money is going to them. So boycotting the gambling website will have no effect on the Russian government, because the source of their money is something more huge.
They could sustain and thats why this war isnt over yet despite of lots of sanctions and prohibition on which Russia do able to get due to that war action that they had made against Ukraine but even up to

this moment which it isnt really that over yet and still becoming more tense as the days passing.Boycotting Russian based casinos or even other services wont really be enough for them to be completely
stopped or minding about cutting off supply and finances for it to be supplementing the war that they are now engaging.

Wont really be enough i must say but if they would be tend to boycott for some ethical thing to be done then its not a bad action but expect that it wont make out significant effect.
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Considering sanctions and boycotting of Russia gambling platforms, my opinion about it is to know if it will in anyway have effects on them. I understand that major sanctions have been given them but it didn't stop the invasion. Will the gambling sanctions worth it?
I think if the gambling platforms in Russia are boycotted, it will not affect the Russian government or Puttin himself but rather ordinary Russians that are struggling to meet up needs.

All gambling websites are owned by ordinary people not the Russian government. Now if we boycott the Russian gambling website, it will naturally have an effect on those ordinary people. The war is not stopping even after so many sanctions have been imposed against Russia. Because Russia's oil power is the real power, they are exporting oil during this war and the money is going to them. So boycotting the gambling website will have no effect on the Russian government, because the source of their money is something more huge.
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It is no secret to anyone that in wars there are unfortunately interests of the big ones, this is because the war between these two countries is generating an immense business model, between leaders of many countries, companies, among others, which seems bad to me is that there are lives that are sacrificed thanks to these interests, and unfortunately the world in general will always move with respect to the best business model they can obtain, although some, let's say in the lowest stratum that I consider "ignorance" under which is easy to do by manipulation, many Ukrainians and Russians die, and what should be stopped here is those deaths, a boycott will not solve it, I think that if the war will drag on, measures should be taken in another way.

One form of human greed is difficult to control.
Now the war continues even though many countries are proposing for peace or condemning this, it seems that it only heats up the atmosphere there because it is like pouring oil into a fire which does make this even more because the countries that interfere also have their own desires and greed regardless of how many lives. who was sacrificed.
Boycotts are now not very useful anymore because we have seen that there are some who have boycotted but the war is still going on and we don't know when it will end.
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Isn't this thread going an extra long than expected. Now the things are out of that gambling platforms and has gone far beyond all that.
Now what we are facing. I don't support anyone. Let everyone support there battles as we are sporting ours. Noone is going to put food on our table except us.

This thread will live until we have two sides. First support a boycott, others say it wont change anything or even wont have an effect. Until two sides argue and keep throwing argument, we would have lots of new pages with posts here.

Imho, boycotting Russian gambling platform to stop the war or to help Ukraine win is useless and stupid. Even sanctions wont work. Something else must be do to stop this massacre. If someone wants to do bad to Russian gambling sector, then boycotting is not the best option. Hacking or DDoSing works better, as it completely stops funds flow.
Considering sanctions and boycotting of Russia gambling platforms, my opinion about it is to know if it will in anyway have effects on them. I understand that major sanctions have been given them but it didn't stop the invasion. Will the gambling sanctions worth it?
I think if the gambling platforms in Russia are boycotted, it will not affect the Russian government or Puttin himself but rather ordinary Russians that are struggling to meet up needs.
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Isn't this thread going an extra long than expected. Now the things are out of that gambling platforms and has gone far beyond all that.
Now what we are facing. I don't support anyone. Let everyone support there battles as we are sporting ours. Noone is going to put food on our table except us.

This thread will live until we have two sides. First support a boycott, others say it wont change anything or even wont have an effect. Until two sides argue and keep throwing argument, we would have lots of new pages with posts here.

Imho, boycotting Russian gambling platform to stop the war or to help Ukraine win is useless and stupid. Even sanctions wont work. Something else must be do to stop this massacre. If someone wants to do bad to Russian gambling sector, then boycotting is not the best option. Hacking or DDoSing works better, as it completely stops funds flow.
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The countries who relied on Russia natural resources mostly the EU countries being in need of gas supply are fighting very hard and after a couple of years they will be completely independent from Russian supplies.The only countries affected unfortunately are those in N.Africa who are greatly in need of the Russian grains,they are the only one that will suffer terribly from the famine coming there.While even if Russia ends the war now,to go back with relations the same as they were before the war is impossible and this is what US,EU and UK think.As I said sanctions are functioning perfectly and Russia is already years behind in their economy compared to the rest of the world.
Isn't this thread going an extra long than expected. Now the things are out of that gambling platforms and has gone far beyond all that.
Now what we are facing. I don't support anyone. Let everyone support there battles as we are sporting ours. Noone is going to put food on our table except us.
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Today I was watching TV and the Deutsche Welle reported that in the last couple of years Europe has paid billions of Euros to Russia for her gas. So one could assume that in comparison to those billions the Russian government has received for gas, taxes collected through casinos may be a neglectable amount of money?

Good point also. The amount of tax collected through gambling sites, that is used by foreigners is so tiny, that in it almost invisible in the cash flow from trades with natural resources. Gambling is such a shady business. Combined with level of corruption in Russia, I think that no one in the government even notice such line as "taxes from gambling" with a small figure in budget report.

Yes. It seems that in the end the future of the Russian economy is on the hands of the powerful politicians and political parties of the industrialized countries on the planet and there is little one can do as a common crypto-currency user or gambler, besides donating to legitimate charities that help to relieve the pain the Ukranian people are going through because this senseless conflict.
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I just wish if the Armies would back out and let the leaders fight there self instead putting two families in death rope to fight there war.

I know that time will soon come when he people would have wise up to the understanding that enough is enough, they should also send their own children to the war front in ransom for the country if truly they are being patriotic as claimed or they themselves should lead the war, that's why it's seems am abit on the side for Ukraine, it got to a certain point of the Russian invassion whereby the Ukraine president also join the war front holding weapons and pulling the trigger, he said he's ready to die all for the sake of defending his people, this is a good example of a leader and not a ruler as in the case of Putin.
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Today I was watching TV and the Deutsche Welle reported that in the last couple of years Europe has paid billions of Euros to Russia for her gas. So one could assume that in comparison to those billions the Russian government has received for gas, taxes collected through casinos may be a neglectable amount of money?

Good point also. The amount of tax collected through gambling sites, that is used by foreigners is so tiny, that in it almost invisible in the cash flow from trades with natural resources. Gambling is such a shady business. Combined with level of corruption in Russia, I think that no one in the government even notice such line as "taxes from gambling" with a small figure in budget report.
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Even if they do such thing about boycotting but wont really be still enough on stopping the war yet we do know that this isnt only the industry on where they do get revenue from.

Even though we as we all go against such act of engaging war on other countries, we must consider that the ongoing war is not as a result of the people's aggression on Ukraine but rather a decision from their president, yet the my never understand his methods of rulership and not leadership, Putin is to be blame here because he has the final say and not the people to either stop or end the lingering war.

Exactly, this is political implications of leaders and there decision to followers who are just struggling to feed their children and live a happy life.
No matter what we do here, either stop been friendly, stop business within ourselves wouldn't make this guy's change their mind as it make them look powerless in the eye of other countries especially Russia, they don't want to be seen as a minor. The past shall becomes the absence and a new world would come, we shouldn't use hate with one another, I just wish if the Armies would back out and let the leaders fight there self instead putting two families in death rope to fight there war.
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The way I see if we people around the world started to boycott all kind of digital services (including Casinos) of Russian owners, that would definitely hurt some oligarchs with tight ties with the klemlin and even some politicians and their families as well.

However, we must also not forget that there is common people in Russie normal citizens that do not agree with the politics of Putin but they cannot express themselves due to the fear of retaliations from the state forces. If we could prove that behind a crypto casino there is someone with clear support towards Putin's war, then I'd say there is a good reason to move from that service, on the other hand if we can't get enough evidence of Putin's support, then we should be reluctant to move from the service, because there could be an honest peace loving Russian citizen in charge.

Just my opinion.

If you are not in a very close surrounding to Putin, it is impossible to tell which person support him, and which not. The idea of boycotting was to reduce the amount of taxes collected from casinos. In the same way, every Russian business, that pays income tax must be boycotted. In addition, not only Russian business must be boycotted, but countries they trade with must be boycotted also. In the end it will turn into boycotting each and everyone, because everyone in some way is in a link (maybe by being tenth consignee in business chain for example) with Russian business.

You have got a good point there.
Today I was watching TV and the Deutsche Welle reported that in the last couple of years Europe has paid billions of Euros to Russia for her gas. So one could assume that in comparison to those billions the Russian government has received for gas, taxes collected through casinos may be a neglectable amount of money?
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Nato stated last week that they expect the Russia Ukraine war to last for several years to come. Russian military is planning up to the next 6 months. Everything looks like there won't be a quick end in sight for this war. Are we really prepared to keep the sanctions up for several years? Already now all the major economies are hurting, global growth is slowing down and inflation is rising. I am not sure if we can keep that up. I am also not saying that there shouldn't be international consequences for Russian, but there should be compromise. Same goes for the gambling industry, boycotting might work for a short period of time, but will we really be able to hold it for long? What if the Russian casinos start to offer really favourable promotions that would make some profits for us? I think eventually we have to look after ourselves and what is best for us.
It will be a good things if Ukraine can have a dialogue with the Russian president to find an alternate way to earn this war cause things are getting worse everyday. Everybody is going to face the outcome of this war including the nato that had been sending ammunition to Ukraine to strength their milliary power. The war just have to end so everything can go back to normal.

It is no secret to anyone that in wars there are unfortunately interests of the big ones, this is because the war between these two countries is generating an immense business model, between leaders of many countries, companies, among others, which seems bad to me is that there are lives that are sacrificed thanks to these interests, and unfortunately the world in general will always move with respect to the best business model they can obtain, although some, let's say in the lowest stratum that I consider "ignorance" under which is easy to do by manipulation, many Ukrainians and Russians die, and what should be stopped here is those deaths, a boycott will not solve it, I think that if the war will drag on, measures should be taken in another way.
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The countries who relied on Russia natural resources mostly the EU countries being in need of gas supply are fighting very hard and after a couple of years they will be completely independent from Russian supplies.The only countries affected unfortunately are those in N.Africa who are greatly in need of the Russian grains,they are the only one that will suffer terribly from the famine coming there.While even if Russia ends the war now,to go back with relations the same as they were before the war is impossible and this is what US,EU and UK think.As I said sanctions are functioning perfectly and Russia is already years behind in their economy compared to the rest of the world.
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Much more effective than a boycott are sanctions measures against, among others, the owners of the Russian online gambling business, because basically these persons are located outside of Russia itself, but this will not affect those who unleashed this massacre, of course there is also an online casino like Asino, whose funds were used to finance terrorists in eastern Ukraine, but such sites are usually intended for internal use.
Putin is to be blamed for this and not the Russian citizens especially those ones that are not residing in the Russian territory. Avoiding gambling site that is operated by Russians is a total waste of time and is not a god move because everyone has choice to decide whatsoever they want and how they want it. I can not have my favorite gambling platform the someone will tell me to leave it or stop gambling in it because of boycotting from the Russian owned site. It doesn't work like that.
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The way I see if we people around the world started to boycott all kind of digital services (including Casinos) of Russian owners, that would definitely hurt some oligarchs with tight ties with the klemlin and even some politicians and their families as well.

However, we must also not forget that there is common people in Russie normal citizens that do not agree with the politics of Putin but they cannot express themselves due to the fear of retaliations from the state forces. If we could prove that behind a crypto casino there is someone with clear support towards Putin's war, then I'd say there is a good reason to move from that service, on the other hand if we can't get enough evidence of Putin's support, then we should be reluctant to move from the service, because there could be an honest peace loving Russian citizen in charge.

Just my opinion.

If you are not in a very close surrounding to Putin, it is impossible to tell which person support him, and which not. The idea of boycotting was to reduce the amount of taxes collected from casinos. In the same way, every Russian business, that pays income tax must be boycotted. In addition, not only Russian business must be boycotted, but countries they trade with must be boycotted also. In the end it will turn into boycotting each and everyone, because everyone in some way is in a link (maybe by being tenth consignee in business chain for example) with Russian business.
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Oh how well it is working the overall boycott,Moody a credit rating company said Russia defaulted on its loan of 100 Million of Dollars because all of their assets outside the border are freeze by US and the EU allies.They do not have the option to change denomination and by doing so to change the currency in which to pay as they can only pay in rubles,the economy of Russia is already years behind in just these 4 months of war,imagine how many years behind it will be if they continue this senseless and delusional war killing innocent people the mostly.
As far as I know, countries that want to buy natural resources from Russia must convert their payments into rubles. But if it's about Russia's failure to repay its loans, I don't know because I didn't follow the news any further. Yes, in these 4 months of the war, everything has changed, but it seems that the Russian side is still calm with the sanctions that have been given to them. Maybe we think it makes no sense but we don't know what's on Putin's mind.

All of us are affected even countries that are far from Russia. Economy is behind not only for them because of the sanctions that was made but we are also losing a lot because of this war. Ego seems to be a hard thing to swallow especially being a leader of one country. No one wants to step down and they will just keep on going until they realize their own families are the ones being affected by it.
I also pray this will be over soon. The weight is getting heavier for every one as all prices are soaring and the monthly salary cannot cover it anymore particularly for the workers below which I am part of.
Many countries outside of Russia have been affected by the war between Russia and Ukraine. Besides that, the world economy has also been affected. Leaders of world countries must think about how to solve this problem so the war does not happen for a long time because the people of each country already suffer. We all pray that this war will end soon and the people will not suffer anymore and can live like before. Maybe if this war ends, the world's life will also change and the world order will also change.
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