There is no win in this for the politicians, hence they are doing nothing.
Topic: WTF are the politicians doing ? (Read 7269 times)
God doesn't help. He only murders. 
If God murdered, you'd have been dead long ago.
As Kryon once put it: "You are here to love God. It's a wonderful system"
I'll just leave it here:
"The Shift & Discovery of Self"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxbmO3AUPlg
I'll just leave it here:
"The Shift & Discovery of Self"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxbmO3AUPlg
God and the Bible are against channeling. Don't kryon my shoulder.
I liked the pun, thank you!
I wonder why Bible (and God) would be against channelling?
Does it really matter how information comes through?
Did you know that composing music or writing poetry is a form of channelling too?
Glad you liked the pun.
I don't know all the reasons why God is against channeling, but here is what I can say simply.
- Is the information that comes through true?
- Will the "channel" always be truthful if I get into the habit of listening?
- In some things we should take God at face value, and listen to Him directly. The snake in the Garden was reasonably truthful. But listening to him brought about the truth in ways that we rather would not have had.
I think God created Snake, so that he could play with it
That was the only way to start knowing itself - life is a game and God is no exception.
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What I understand by now is that all truths are true.
If someone believes in God who judges and punishes, that's the God they will face after death. If a person doesn't believe in afterlife at all, he/she won't wake up until the next reincarnation (of course Bible is against that as well).
Beliefs matter. They are the axes of a powerful gyroscope that defines your reality/experience and might not be so easy to change. Wanting or saying that you believe does not equate to believing. That's why the correct order is "Believing is Seeing", not the other way around:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtRQXOcn7oI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfDLEiwLwQE
If someone believes in God who judges and punishes, that's the God they will face after death. If a person doesn't believe in afterlife at all, he/she won't wake up until the next reincarnation (of course Bible is against that as well).
Beliefs matter. They are the axes of a powerful gyroscope that defines your reality/experience and might not be so easy to change. Wanting or saying that you believe does not equate to believing. That's why the correct order is "Believing is Seeing", not the other way around:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtRQXOcn7oI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfDLEiwLwQE
However, God's faith (believing) is way stronger than man's. Believe yourself into having an extra pair of arms, one growing out of each side of your body, about half way between your shoulders and your belly button. If you can believe this into happening, you got the power. God believed the whole universe into being from a standing start of nothing. The point? If God believes it this way or that, you and I don't stand a chance believing it some other way. Check out what God says, and believe it His way.
What if God believed the whole Universe into being for just one reason - to forget that he is God and live a life of a man. What if God got bored (by Alan Watts): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckiNNgfMKcQ
If God became bored, it wouldn't happen in any way that people could understand.
The way of God is so far beyond people that microbes are multitudes of times closer to understanding us than we are to understanding the inner workings of God.
As soon as the people succumb to the stupidity of socialistic ignorance, there will be no private property any longer... because there will be no freedom for the masses any longer. There will only be entire slavery, maintained by the few elite who are attempting to run the whole world.
Get past the voting for government people. The Electoral College is the one that places the votes that elect, not you or I, peons who vote.
Rather, check out what is here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10079836 to see that the whole government operation process is part of the smokescreen that the elite are using to pull the wool over your eyes.
Get past the voting for government people. The Electoral College is the one that places the votes that elect, not you or I, peons who vote.
Rather, check out what is here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10079836 to see that the whole government operation process is part of the smokescreen that the elite are using to pull the wool over your eyes.
Sometimes Armstrong writes blog posts which basically say exactly what I would say.
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/01/07/the-fools-game/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/01/07/the-fools-game/
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The Fool’s Game
Only a fool tries to claim they are right even when the market moves against them. There can be no wrong or right for the market always wins. Blame is a fool’s game. I love these people who try so desperately to show I am wrong on some move so they can justify being wrong all the time in their view. These are people who will die penniless for they cannot see the big picture and have no interest in reforming their view – exactly like politicians. They will defend their belief to the death and consider no possibility of error.
Those terrorists who blow themselves up expecting 73 virgins are weak-minded individuals who have been sold a belief they want to believe. They want to believe in something so bad because they have nothing else in life. This is a human condition that afflicts so many in markets as well. No matter what you show them, they are MARRIED to an idea and will never change and attack anyone who says they are wrong. That is just the fate of so many people within society regardless of what the concept might be.
Unfortunately, this is why they become the masses who must be slaughtered to create the panic. There are three key groups:
The common people who act based upon what they experience
The self-anointed “sophisticated” participant who marries an idea
The “professional” who follows traditional analysis because that is what they were told
Then there is the enlightened group, which stands-back and observes, willing to change and go with the flow. If you look at politics, presidential election show this group who swing back and forth and are their own objective mind fluctuates between 5% to 13% since no president has ever captured more than about 63% of the popular vote. Effectively, about 45% are democrat and 45% are republican and no matter what you say to show them they are wrong is simply rejected and will never be considered. They are married to a concept and that ends all discussion or debate.
Hence, you are correct. People who want to immediately blame someone are just fools for they are incapable of ever growing into an enlightened mind. They will remain stagnant captured by a belief they cannot and will not ever consider is just wrong. The world is wrong – never them.
Only a fool tries to claim they are right even when the market moves against them. There can be no wrong or right for the market always wins. Blame is a fool’s game. I love these people who try so desperately to show I am wrong on some move so they can justify being wrong all the time in their view. These are people who will die penniless for they cannot see the big picture and have no interest in reforming their view – exactly like politicians. They will defend their belief to the death and consider no possibility of error.
Those terrorists who blow themselves up expecting 73 virgins are weak-minded individuals who have been sold a belief they want to believe. They want to believe in something so bad because they have nothing else in life. This is a human condition that afflicts so many in markets as well. No matter what you show them, they are MARRIED to an idea and will never change and attack anyone who says they are wrong. That is just the fate of so many people within society regardless of what the concept might be.
Unfortunately, this is why they become the masses who must be slaughtered to create the panic. There are three key groups:
The common people who act based upon what they experience
The self-anointed “sophisticated” participant who marries an idea
The “professional” who follows traditional analysis because that is what they were told
Then there is the enlightened group, which stands-back and observes, willing to change and go with the flow. If you look at politics, presidential election show this group who swing back and forth and are their own objective mind fluctuates between 5% to 13% since no president has ever captured more than about 63% of the popular vote. Effectively, about 45% are democrat and 45% are republican and no matter what you say to show them they are wrong is simply rejected and will never be considered. They are married to a concept and that ends all discussion or debate.
Hence, you are correct. People who want to immediately blame someone are just fools for they are incapable of ever growing into an enlightened mind. They will remain stagnant captured by a belief they cannot and will not ever consider is just wrong. The world is wrong – never them.
Another interesting thing is a Langlands program:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langlands_program
about some bizarre interconnections between different field of mathematics.
And of course some nice music and visuals for peace of mind:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsjzfpSOQV0
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langlands_program
about some bizarre interconnections between different field of mathematics.
And of course some nice music and visuals for peace of mind:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsjzfpSOQV0
So much knowledge I want to delve into and so little time...
Music back at you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2e7dpVDX54
Thanks!
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@iamback, me too
I took that from my idol.
Idol him because "maybe I lead you to believe...or maybe you are just making excuses" he is the most fierce competitor, trained like crazy, and sparred no herculean effort. Who else could play 1 against 5.
Nice one!
Another interesting thing is a Langlands program:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langlands_program
about some bizarre interconnections between different field of mathematics.
And of course some nice music and visuals for peace of mind:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsjzfpSOQV0
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langlands_program
about some bizarre interconnections between different field of mathematics.
And of course some nice music and visuals for peace of mind:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsjzfpSOQV0
So much knowledge I want to delve into and so little time...
Music back at you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2e7dpVDX54
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@iamback, me too
I took that from my idol.
Idol him because "maybe I lead you to believe...or maybe you are just making excuses" he is the most fierce competitor, trained like crazy, and sparred no herculean effort. Who else could play 1 against 5.
http://goldwetrust.up-with.com/t124-theory-of-everthing#3583
Quote from: me a.k.a. contagion, AnonyMint, JustSaying, Jocelyn, shelby, TheFascistMind, etc.
WHAT IS GOD
For a more complete definition of God, go here to the References of this research paper:
http://goldwetrust.up-with.com/knowledge-f9/book-ultimate-truth-chapter-6-math-proves-go-forth-multiply-t159-15.htm#3640
God is the sum of all matter. God didn't create itself, it never existed, because matter does not exist until it is observed. We create God every day. That is why we were created out of matter.
It is important that you can not present any theory for the universe, which also explains what it outside the universe. No one can.
So that is why my theory says there is no outside.
The universe is 100% disorder meaning infinite possibilities. There is nothing outside, because there is no outside. You see infinite possibilities includes everything. It also explains how the universe wraps onto itself topologically via possibilities.
For a more complete definition of God, go here to the References of this research paper:
http://goldwetrust.up-with.com/knowledge-f9/book-ultimate-truth-chapter-6-math-proves-go-forth-multiply-t159-15.htm#3640
Quote from: dash a.k.a. David Ashley
>> > You never answered the big question. You claim the infinite disorder
>> > is your evidence of god, only god could have created the infinite
>> > disorder.
>> > So what created god?
> I'm really curious as to how you can explain how god existed. You keep
> avoiding this question. Isn't it kind of critical?
>> > is your evidence of god, only god could have created the infinite
>> > disorder.
>> > So what created god?
> I'm really curious as to how you can explain how god existed. You keep
> avoiding this question. Isn't it kind of critical?
God is the sum of all matter. God didn't create itself, it never existed, because matter does not exist until it is observed. We create God every day. That is why we were created out of matter.
It is important that you can not present any theory for the universe, which also explains what it outside the universe. No one can.
So that is why my theory says there is no outside.
The universe is 100% disorder meaning infinite possibilities. There is nothing outside, because there is no outside. You see infinite possibilities includes everything. It also explains how the universe wraps onto itself topologically via possibilities.
@iamback, me too
I guess, a deeper meaning of God has something to do with trinity.
I'm now thinking of mathematics-consciousness-matter kind of trinity.
Those three are all inter-dependent in a non-resolvable loop.
Another interesting thing is a Langlands program:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langlands_program
about some bizarre interconnections between different fields of mathematics.
And of course some nice music and visuals for peace of mind:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsjzfpSOQV0
http://goldwetrust.up-with.com/t124-theory-of-everthing#3583
Quote from: me a.k.a. contagion, AnonyMint, JustSaying, Jocelyn, shelby, TheFascistMind, etc.
WHAT IS GOD
For a more complete definition of God, go here to the References of this research paper:
http://goldwetrust.up-with.com/knowledge-f9/book-ultimate-truth-chapter-6-math-proves-go-forth-multiply-t159-15.htm#3640
God is the sum of all matter. God didn't create itself, it never existed, because matter does not exist until it is observed. We create God every day. That is why we were created out of matter.
It is important that you can not present any theory for the universe, which also explains what it outside the universe. No one can.
So that is why my theory says there is no outside.
The universe is 100% disorder meaning infinite possibilities. There is nothing outside, because there is no outside. You see infinite possibilities includes everything. It also explains how the universe wraps onto itself topologically via possibilities.
For a more complete definition of God, go here to the References of this research paper:
http://goldwetrust.up-with.com/knowledge-f9/book-ultimate-truth-chapter-6-math-proves-go-forth-multiply-t159-15.htm#3640
Quote from: dash a.k.a. David Ashley
>> > You never answered the big question. You claim the infinite disorder
>> > is your evidence of god, only god could have created the infinite
>> > disorder.
>> > So what created god?
> I'm really curious as to how you can explain how god existed. You keep
> avoiding this question. Isn't it kind of critical?
>> > is your evidence of god, only god could have created the infinite
>> > disorder.
>> > So what created god?
> I'm really curious as to how you can explain how god existed. You keep
> avoiding this question. Isn't it kind of critical?
God is the sum of all matter. God didn't create itself, it never existed, because matter does not exist until it is observed. We create God every day. That is why we were created out of matter.
It is important that you can not present any theory for the universe, which also explains what it outside the universe. No one can.
So that is why my theory says there is no outside.
The universe is 100% disorder meaning infinite possibilities. There is nothing outside, because there is no outside. You see infinite possibilities includes everything. It also explains how the universe wraps onto itself topologically via possibilities.
All the politicians are doing is sitting pretty and oblivious to what is going on around them. They are charismatic, but have no idea how to get something done.
Christianity and Islam may be the most popular religions other than government, and the three thus are responsible for the most deaths.
http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=4289&cpage=1#comment-379180
No. Buddhism. (I’m leaving out my own neopaganism because it only has about 60 years of history and arguably isn’t a “religion” at all, having no aim to be a total explanatory system.)
I’m not a Buddhist (and someday I’ll explain why I’m not in detail on this blog), but the Buddhists have totted up the lowest massacre count of any of the major religions. That’s convincing evidence of superiority right there.
On the positive side, Buddhist philosophy, art, and meditative practices are astonishingly subtle and rich.
http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=4289&cpage=1#comment-379194
True. When evaluating such claims, it’s helpful to ignore all the rationalizations believers fling around and consider only the total body count. Christianity and Islam are in a class by themselves when it comes to lethal evil in religion. Only Marxism surpasses them.
http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=4289&cpage=1#comment-379180
Quote from: Eric S Raymond
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Christianity is probably the best of the world’s religions
No. Buddhism. (I’m leaving out my own neopaganism because it only has about 60 years of history and arguably isn’t a “religion” at all, having no aim to be a total explanatory system.)
I’m not a Buddhist (and someday I’ll explain why I’m not in detail on this blog), but the Buddhists have totted up the lowest massacre count of any of the major religions. That’s convincing evidence of superiority right there.
On the positive side, Buddhist philosophy, art, and meditative practices are astonishingly subtle and rich.
http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=4289&cpage=1#comment-379194
Quote from: Eric S Raymond
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Christianity is absolutely up there among the most deadly religions in history.
True. When evaluating such claims, it’s helpful to ignore all the rationalizations believers fling around and consider only the total body count. Christianity and Islam are in a class by themselves when it comes to lethal evil in religion. Only Marxism surpasses them.
Topic: WTF are the politicians doing ?
they do what they do best.
they argue endlessly until the time to make decision is just a second away, sparing no time to make an evaluation.
Maybe a more important question is what are YOU doing about it? A post about it here is just fine but there's so much more to be done. Engage in politics yourself if you think politics can actually do anything about it. Find out what makes things work.
Understand that the problem is largely rooted in poverty and that poverty is the breeding grounds of extremist terrorists. There are large scale and largely politicized organizations that try to make a difference. The World Bank and the International Monetary Fund actually work to reduce poverty across the globe and have a tremendous record for success in the past few decades.
The world is becoming more and more aware of itself. Times are better now then they ever have been and yet evil remains.
Money is a finite resource so when it goes to glutinous reservoirs we have a HUGE problem. This is what causes poverty and cyclical economic crises. There have been volumes written about this and 3 economists even won the Nobel prize for economics for their work in zero sum game theory as it applies to economics. Their work was used to structure executive pay bonuses after the bail out of various American companies. It's simple, things should cost what their worth and people should get what they pay for. We have huge examples where this is still not the case. I'll pick a simple one: mortgage interest.
Maybe that seems to go astray from hundreds of students that died in Pakistan or hundreds more killed by drug lords in Mexico but really, it's not. Remember: Finite Resource. Allll that wasted money going to some business (and ultimately executives) is way more than the land and structure are worth and is money that could be spent on medicine for the sick, food for the hungry, and countless other humanitarian missions around the world.
Understand that the problem is largely rooted in poverty and that poverty is the breeding grounds of extremist terrorists. There are large scale and largely politicized organizations that try to make a difference. The World Bank and the International Monetary Fund actually work to reduce poverty across the globe and have a tremendous record for success in the past few decades.
The world is becoming more and more aware of itself. Times are better now then they ever have been and yet evil remains.
Money is a finite resource so when it goes to glutinous reservoirs we have a HUGE problem. This is what causes poverty and cyclical economic crises. There have been volumes written about this and 3 economists even won the Nobel prize for economics for their work in zero sum game theory as it applies to economics. Their work was used to structure executive pay bonuses after the bail out of various American companies. It's simple, things should cost what their worth and people should get what they pay for. We have huge examples where this is still not the case. I'll pick a simple one: mortgage interest.
Maybe that seems to go astray from hundreds of students that died in Pakistan or hundreds more killed by drug lords in Mexico but really, it's not. Remember: Finite Resource. Allll that wasted money going to some business (and ultimately executives) is way more than the land and structure are worth and is money that could be spent on medicine for the sick, food for the hungry, and countless other humanitarian missions around the world.
Topic: WTF are the politicians doing ?
Sodomizing each other while people are suffering.
yup
Re: WTF are the politicians doing ?
Enriching themselves with our tax dollars ..
Triff ..
Enriching themselves with our tax dollars ..
Triff ..
As Kryon once put it: "You are here to love God. It's a wonderful system"
I'll just leave it here:
"The Shift & Discovery of Self"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxbmO3AUPlg
I'll just leave it here:
"The Shift & Discovery of Self"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxbmO3AUPlg
God and the Bible are against channeling. Don't kryon my shoulder.
I liked the pun, thank you!
I wonder why Bible (and God) would be against channelling?
Does it really matter how information comes through?
Did you know that composing music or writing poetry is a form of channelling too?
Glad you liked the pun.
I don't know all the reasons why God is against channeling, but here is what I can say simply.
- Is the information that comes through true?
- Will the "channel" always be truthful if I get into the habit of listening?
- In some things we should take God at face value, and listen to Him directly. The snake in the Garden was reasonably truthful. But listening to him brought about the truth in ways that we rather would not have had.
I think God created Snake, so that he could play with it
That was the only way to start knowing itself - life is a game and God is no exception.
This is close to accurate. The snake was created as part of nature. The particular Snake in question was a channeler, allowing itself to be used by the devil, Satan. Satan, like other angels, and people, was among those created to be a friend and partner with God. Satan used his free will gift that God gave him, to attempt to overcome God's plan for man.
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What I understand by now is that all truths are true.
If someone believes in God who judges and punishes, that's the God they will face after death. If a person doesn't believe in afterlife at all, he/she won't wake up until the next reincarnation (of course Bible is against that as well).
Beliefs matter. They are the axes of a powerful gyroscope that defines your reality/experience and might not be so easy to change. Wanting or saying that you believe does not equate to believing. That's why the correct order is "Believing is Seeing", not the other way around:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtRQXOcn7oI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfDLEiwLwQE
If someone believes in God who judges and punishes, that's the God they will face after death. If a person doesn't believe in afterlife at all, he/she won't wake up until the next reincarnation (of course Bible is against that as well).
Beliefs matter. They are the axes of a powerful gyroscope that defines your reality/experience and might not be so easy to change. Wanting or saying that you believe does not equate to believing. That's why the correct order is "Believing is Seeing", not the other way around:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtRQXOcn7oI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfDLEiwLwQE
However, God's faith (believing) is way stronger than man's. Believe yourself into having an extra pair of arms, one growing out of each side of your body, about half way between your shoulders and your belly button. If you can believe this into happening, you got the power. God believed the whole universe into being from a standing start of nothing. The point? If God believes it this way or that, you and I don't stand a chance believing it some other way. Check out what God says, and believe it His way.
What if God believed the whole Universe into being for just one reason - to forget that he is God and live a life of a man. What if God got bored (by Alan Watts): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckiNNgfMKcQ
If God got bored, it wouldn't be in any sense that we understand.
A man and a woman are stranded together on a deserted island. They have enough food, water, clothing, etc., to take care of all their needs. They are young and healthy in every way except for one thing. They have no sexual urge whatsoever.
How long will it take them to get bored with each other and island living? How long will it take them to decide to get together sexually, simply so that they have some kids to get rid of the boredom?
Makes sense about God being bored. But God is dynamic, as we can see from the variety in the universe. We are His children if we want. That's why He made us. Let's start acting the part.
As Kryon once put it: "You are here to love God. It's a wonderful system"
I'll just leave it here:
"The Shift & Discovery of Self"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxbmO3AUPlg
I'll just leave it here:
"The Shift & Discovery of Self"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxbmO3AUPlg
God and the Bible are against channeling. Don't kryon my shoulder.
I liked the pun, thank you!
I wonder why Bible (and God) would be against channelling?
Does it really matter how information comes through?
Did you know that composing music or writing poetry is a form of channelling too?
Glad you liked the pun.
I don't know all the reasons why God is against channeling, but here is what I can say simply.
- Is the information that comes through true?
- Will the "channel" always be truthful if I get into the habit of listening?
- In some things we should take God at face value, and listen to Him directly. The snake in the Garden was reasonably truthful. But listening to him brought about the truth in ways that we rather would not have had.
I think God created Snake, so that he could play with it
That was the only way to start knowing itself - life is a game and God is no exception.
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What I understand by now is that all truths are true.
If someone believes in God who judges and punishes, that's the God they will face after death. If a person doesn't believe in afterlife at all, he/she won't wake up until the next reincarnation (of course Bible is against that as well).
Beliefs matter. They are the axes of a powerful gyroscope that defines your reality/experience and might not be so easy to change. Wanting or saying that you believe does not equate to believing. That's why the correct order is "Believing is Seeing", not the other way around:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtRQXOcn7oI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfDLEiwLwQE
If someone believes in God who judges and punishes, that's the God they will face after death. If a person doesn't believe in afterlife at all, he/she won't wake up until the next reincarnation (of course Bible is against that as well).
Beliefs matter. They are the axes of a powerful gyroscope that defines your reality/experience and might not be so easy to change. Wanting or saying that you believe does not equate to believing. That's why the correct order is "Believing is Seeing", not the other way around:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtRQXOcn7oI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfDLEiwLwQE
However, God's faith (believing) is way stronger than man's. Believe yourself into having an extra pair of arms, one growing out of each side of your body, about half way between your shoulders and your belly button. If you can believe this into happening, you got the power. God believed the whole universe into being from a standing start of nothing. The point? If God believes it this way or that, you and I don't stand a chance believing it some other way. Check out what God says, and believe it His way.
What if God believed the whole Universe into being for just one reason - to forget that he is God and live a life of a man. What if God got bored (by Alan Watts): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckiNNgfMKcQ
I thus reject Christianity as a mental disease that seems to afflict and prey on the depressed, by offering the drug of elated delusion cum procrastination and sticking head in the "I am holier than thou" sand.
This is entirely acceptable for you - especially the emphasized part ^^. Why? Because as you have explained elsewhere, you were once a Christian. God says through the writer to the Hebrews in the Bible, that once a Christian falls away like you have, there is no chance that he can turn back to God.
I knew this all along. In everything that I have responded and explained to you, I was doing it so that it might provoke questions and ideas in the minds of others who might happen to read this thread. I knew you were lost from the moment you said you are a former Christian.
BADecker I don't disagree. Which is probably another reason it took me such a long time to stop standing with one leg on each side of the fence. I think it would be impossible to come back. The only counter-balancing thought I had is that I can't experience all dimensions of the Universe, thus my claim against falsifiability is a decision to base my values in the near-term collective reality of the scientific method (i.e. the reality humans have thus far perceived and communicated). I have decided this is the most sane direction for me, because I want to not do the "detached from reality" life I've been doing since I picked up Christianity in 2006.
The reality for me when I have spoken about you above^^, is that I don't really know that you were a Christian. You may have been in name. You may have thought you were. But perhaps you never quite made it. In that case, there is still hope for you.
I thus reject Christianity as a mental disease that seems to afflict and prey on the depressed, by offering the drug of elated delusion cum procrastination and sticking head in the "I am holier than thou" sand.
This is entirely acceptable for you - especially the emphasized part ^^. Why? Because as you have explained elsewhere, you were once a Christian. God says through the writer to the Hebrews in the Bible, that once a Christian falls away like you have, there is no chance that he can turn back to God.
I knew this all along. In everything that I have responded and explained to you, I was doing it so that it might provoke questions and ideas in the minds of others who might happen to read this thread. I knew you were lost from the moment you said you are a former Christian.
BADecker I don't disagree. Which is probably another reason it took me such a long time to stop standing with one leg on each side of the fence. I think it would be impossible to come back. The only counter-balancing thought I had is that I can't experience all dimensions of the Universe, thus my claim against falsifiability is a decision to base my values in the near-term collective reality of the scientific method (i.e. the reality humans have thus far perceived and communicated). I have decided this is the most sane direction for me, because I want to not do the "detached from reality" life I've been doing since I picked up Christianity in 2006.
In addition to the unattractive risk versus reward offer of the Christianity faith which I explained upthread, the other major ontological problem with the Christian religion is that it promotes apathy, because heck it doesn't really matter what I do in this life because it is only the after life that is eternal. And since as I explained upthread it is impossible for any religion to precisely define which actions get you to the heaven of it, one could very likely end up in a mental zone of apathy towards their own insufficiently positive actions since this life doesn't really matter any way and the believer can repent later.
Fact is that our genetics and offspring live on for a long time, and the 80 or so years we are on the earth is a lot of time to make a lasting positive mark on the world, e.g. the writings of Adam Smith.
I thus reject Christianity as a mental disease that seems to afflict and prey on the depressed, by offering the drug of elated delusion cum procrastination and sticking head in the "I am holier than thou" sand.
As an example of this apathy, do you know the almost universal response of filipinos when I detailed the coming global economic collapse or even when I explain how their backstabbing or selfish attitudes will bring bad karma to themselves? They don't care because God will always protect them. Did God protect them during WW2 when the Japanese ravaged their islands? Did God protect them from massive poverty?
I used to think that due being not falsifiable that religion was at worst a tautology, but now I realize it is much more devastating.
Fact is that our genetics and offspring live on for a long time, and the 80 or so years we are on the earth is a lot of time to make a lasting positive mark on the world, e.g. the writings of Adam Smith.
I thus reject Christianity as a mental disease that seems to afflict and prey on the depressed, by offering the drug of elated delusion cum procrastination and sticking head in the "I am holier than thou" sand.
As an example of this apathy, do you know the almost universal response of filipinos when I detailed the coming global economic collapse or even when I explain how their backstabbing or selfish attitudes will bring bad karma to themselves? They don't care because God will always protect them. Did God protect them during WW2 when the Japanese ravaged their islands? Did God protect them from massive poverty?
I used to think that due being not falsifiable that religion was at worst a tautology, but now I realize it is much more devastating.
This is entirely acceptable for you - especially the emphasized part ^^. Why? Because as you have explained elsewhere, you were once a Christian. God says through the writer to the Hebrews in the Bible, that once a Christian falls away like you have, there is no chance that he can turn back to God.
I knew this all along. In everything that I have responded and explained to you, I was doing it so that it might provoke questions and ideas in the minds of others who might happen to read this thread. I knew you were lost from the moment you said you are a former Christian.
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