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Topic: X11 X13 X15 with 50% more hashrate 7Mh/s on 280x or 10 Mh/s on 290x - page 10. (Read 54262 times)

legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1050
We are definitely not your slaves, we have no reason to work for you for nothing. If you can't understand that sorry...

I have never said "you have to ..." about anything. So this is a bit out of place. We are just having conversation right?

So to make myself clear:
1. Whatever you choose to do or not is up to you.
2. I myself have done work at times, say developed software, and donated it to public, at other times I have sold software that I developed (mostly with service). That makes me neither a good person or a bad one,  nor a slave.
3. Let's assume you use firefox or linux or whatever GNU/BSD/MIT/etc. software you may use. Are the people that developed it your slaves? No they are not. They have, in their view and mine, donated their time and expertise to the betterment of mankind and that's it.
4. You may regard them as slaves, if we follow your analogy from above, to have done free work for you or just plain stupid to work for free, but trust me they are neither because they choose to do whatever they did.
5. You are a slave when you pay taxes, as this relationship you did not choose and is the one you will have difficulty getting out of. You owe whatever they tell you, not what you negotiated.

and finally 6. There is a particular reason why I got interested in X11 a week ago. Namely I act as an adviser to a third party that wan't to look into developing a X15 coin so I thought I'll look into X11 first as it seems more mature. So what would your recommendation be if you were in my shoes? Should they go with X15 or look for something else with a more leveled play-field?

Am I making sense to you?

p.s. If you and Wolf0 post your Darkcoin address I will donate to you just because I enjoy these conversations immensely...

Heh, leveled playing-field. Believe me, there is no such algo.
I wouldn't go either with any of the x algo, and would probably go to other things, or actually make something new...
would rather go to some variation of m7 (but there they are too many thing in parallel)

actually lyra2 is interesting because you can mix various hash together... (but you might end up running at 5kH/s rather easily though...  Grin)
that could make them less interesting to port on asic or fpga


btw here my drk address: XxmLrr12Ah5nPcTEASUrdkPY1k8vYujVDJ
full member
Activity: 219
Merit: 100
We are definitely not your slaves, we have no reason to work for you for nothing. If you can't understand that sorry...

I have never said "you have to ..." about anything. So this is a bit out of place. We are just having conversation right?

So to make myself clear:
1. Whatever you choose to do or not is up to you.
2. I myself have done work at times, say developed software, and donated it to public, at other times I have sold software that I developed (mostly with service). That makes me neither a good person or a bad one,  nor a slave.
3. Let's assume you use firefox or linux or whatever GNU/BSD/MIT/etc. software you may use. Are the people that developed it your slaves? No they are not. They have, in their view and mine, donated their time and expertise to the betterment of mankind and that's it.
4. You may regard them as slaves, if we follow your analogy from above, to have done free work for you or just plain stupid to work for free, but trust me they are neither because they choose to do whatever they did.
5. You are a slave when you pay taxes, as this relationship you did not choose and is the one you will have difficulty getting out of. You owe whatever they tell you, not what you negotiated.

and finally 6. There is a particular reason why I got interested in X11 a week ago. Namely I act as an adviser to a third party that wan't to look into developing a X15 coin so I thought I'll look into X11 first as it seems more mature. So what would your recommendation be if you were in my shoes? Should they go with X15 or look for something else with a more leveled play-field?

Am I making sense to you?

p.s. If you and Wolf0 post your Darkcoin address I will donate to you just because I enjoy these conversations immensely...
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1050
That's why I'm hating on miners. Not because they don't donate, which is kind of shitty, but because they seem to feel entitled to someone else's work for free, as evidenced by the above.

Don't want to start preaching, but you use sgminer, linux, darkwallet, firefox etc.
How much did you pay for those? Did you donate? (Did I?) Smiley



The problem may-be is that you forgot to donate for sgminer while you should have. Same applies to standard sgminer, someone wrap up the code
expecting from users they will donate... he was wrong, some moron thought they didn't have to make donations  Grin
 
(the others are funded through publicity and I don't think you can use them to make money at least not directly...).
again why anybody should help you make money for free especially if you don't give anything back ?
I still don't understand because I don't think anybody runs 10 or gpu's just for free heat and noise.
If it is your case, then I apologize, because in that case you really don't have to donate.

We are definitely not your slaves, we have no reason to work for you for nothing. If you can't understand that sorry...
member
Activity: 81
Merit: 1002
It was only the wind.
For me you have no excuse, if you had made a bid to release the code I would understand but this is worse than the mafia. Some people lose money with his rigs and don´t have any opportunity to win because your price is fucking crazy

Better than PMing people, pretending to be selling my code for 0.5 BTC, eh, mamator? I heard about that.  Wink
sp_
legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
full member
Activity: 219
Merit: 100
It's just great to see the community support

"Goal: 45.00000000 Ƀ

Nobody pledged so far

World does not work that way I'm sorry to say. In a decade or so you will understand what I've just said.
full member
Activity: 219
Merit: 100
That's why I'm hating on miners. Not because they don't donate, which is kind of shitty, but because they seem to feel entitled to someone else's work for free, as evidenced by the above.

Don't want to start preaching, but you use sgminer, linux, darkwallet, firefox etc.
How much did you pay for those? Did you donate? (Did I?) Smiley

sp_
legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
But wolf has a point.. He has been working hard to push the hashrate 50%. The man deserves some credit and coins.
Wolf:  rewrite sgminer from scratch and go claymore Smiley You are good, but not Elite.

The author of the shader code used in battlefield 4 (Frostbite) is a member of the group that released this

http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=25778

Rendering on hardware from 1992 @50mhz
legendary
Activity: 2296
Merit: 1031
It's just great to see the community support

"Goal: 45.00000000 Ƀ

Nobody pledged so far

22 days to go

- See more at: https://bitcoinstarter.com/projects/1125#sthash.vr7bRvZT.dpuf"

lol

/sarcasm
member
Activity: 81
Merit: 1002
It was only the wind.
3 btc for 50% more of hashrate is a joke, we can give 25% of hashrate for 1 year for example or 0.5 btc. A lot of times is best a cheap price and a lot of customers than expensive price and a few customers, would be nice that we all raise our mining gpu

Large farms know not to share; you sell it to somebody with two rigs for 0.2 BTC and the next day it's all over the forum.
hero member
Activity: 935
Merit: 1001
I don't always drink...
I'm waiting for Wolf0miner.   Cool
sp_
legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
It's decent work. X11 can get far better, though - it's just that I hate OpenCL host code, and don't want to modify the miner itself, so I work within SGMiner's brokenness.

I think you need to rewrite the kernals to compute 2 or more hashes within the same thread. But then you need to rewrite sqminer as well.
member
Activity: 81
Merit: 1002
It was only the wind.
I'm very close to banning all GPU devs from releasing anything until we've sat down and worked out a way everybody wins  Wink

Sure would get people's attention, lol.
legendary
Activity: 1708
Merit: 1036
Looks to me like mamator needs some public shaming.

http://imgur.com/meLicfd

LOL!

BUSTED!

And for what it's worth, mamator also sent the same message to me. He's a two bit criminal scammer. Someone should mention that to MRR, they might be interested. I'll be happy to add my screenshot to the list if it's any help.
hero member
Activity: 935
Merit: 1001
I don't always drink...
member
Activity: 81
Merit: 1002
It was only the wind.
just an example, xcn miner was downloaded around 200x (which isn't a lot actually) got donations from max 10~15ppl so profitability or not it is always the same story (and every gpu dev and dev at large will tell you the exact same story, but as I am also a bit of a troll so I talk a lot more about it...)

My XMR CPU miner is pretty much the standard one on Linux - and it was around 2x as fast as the best public miner at the time. XMR was quite profitable then - 15 or less people donated, same.
and it is probably the same people who donated...  Grin

Haha, you know, I wouldn't be surprised... I really wouldn't.
sr. member
Activity: 340
Merit: 250
Looks to me like mamator needs some public shaming.

http://imgur.com/meLicfd
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1050
If anyone wants a cheap rig, contact me
a real one ? Or a non-existing one ?  Grin

I can provide you with the fake photos of your rigs (well the photo aren't fake, per se )  for 1btc  Grin
Are you an idiot?, go to mininrigrentals and rent my rig, It´s a shame because english is not my native language and is very difficult for me to explain my feelings for you, ass licker.
no worry, ass licker should do it  Grin
(however, when someone try to scam, I guess ass kicker might be better)

edit: And we are all fed up with all the scammer which are around and making a fun and profitable experience a nightmare...
member
Activity: 81
Merit: 1002
It was only the wind.
just an example, xcn miner was downloaded around 200x (which isn't a lot actually) got donations from max 10~15ppl so profitability or not it is always the same story (and every gpu dev and dev at large will tell you the exact same story, but as I am also a bit of a troll so I talk a lot more about it...)

My XMR CPU miner is pretty much the standard one on Linux - and it was around 2x as fast as the best public miner at the time. XMR was quite profitable then - 15 or less people donated, same.
member
Activity: 74
Merit: 10
If anyone wants a cheap rig, contact me
a real one ? Or a non-existing one ?  Grin

I can provide you with the fake photos of your rigs (well the photo aren't fake, per se )  for 1btc  Grin
Are you an idiot?, go to mininrigrentals and rent my rig, It´s a shame because english is not my native language and is very difficult for me to explain my feelings for you, ass licker.
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