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Topic: X11 X13 X15 with 50% more hashrate 7Mh/s on 280x or 10 Mh/s on 290x - page 11. (Read 54268 times)

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Yes so unless you have 100 GPUs with free electricity the 3btc is not worth the 50% speed increase, just do the math!

I would agree with this.

Wolf0, out of curiosity, what's the power usage increase alongside the speed increase?

I've said it before - 50% increase in hash for 17% more power usage over stock (power usage rounded up to nearest whole percent.)

Well done  Wink

You've accelerated the death of many shitcoins that had to die anyway, the market needed to consolidate and work like this has a regressive effect on the ecosystem.
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It was only the wind.
Mmm who knows.. maybe there are others out there.... Wink




 Shocked

not sure what this is, but these lower temps are scarry ? what hardware is this ?



LOL, just found out that's from one of my testers!
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Yes so unless you have 100 GPUs with free electricity the 3btc is not worth the 50% speed increase, just do the math!

I would agree with this.

Wolf0, out of curiosity, what's the power usage increase alongside the speed increase?
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It was only the wind.
Djm I don't know where all this hate of miners is coming from, but they're definitely not making money right now. Look at a profit calculator and then scale it up a bit and if you don't have a plug watt meter, buy one. Using GPUs to mine you're earning about -30% just by running the things.

Only ones making money off coins launching are people playing the Nicehash miner graveyard.

That aside, I'm not sure why everyone overlooked the part where I said 'put in a dev mine'. Other developers have done it and it works fine as long as you tell people it's there. Claymore is a good example of that. If you feel your work is worth money, do more then say 'give me money'. With a 50% increase in hashrate you'd have everyone on board even with a 5% dev fee, which is basically every x11/x13/x15 AMD GPU miner, funneling coins through you regardless of the fact that we wouldn't be making more money and this would actually be worse for us as everyone would then be using 15% more power.

I don't understand where this high and mighty attitude is coming from though. It's just like you want to dangle tidbits in front of miners that aren't having the best of times right now as a big 'fuck you' because we apparently didn't thank you enough for free work you did... for... free...

That's completely putting aside that miners don't need more speed at any cost right now, they need efficiency.

Girino did that, this "community" reverse engineered it, ripped it out, and put it into sph-sgminer without the fee. Cheap fucks, the lot of them. Did you know darkcoin-mod (also known as x11mod) is basically stolen work?

That's why I'm hating on miners. Not because they don't donate, which is kind of shitty, but because they seem to feel entitled to someone else's work for free, as evidenced by the above.
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Yes so unless you have 100 GPUs with free electricity the 3btc is not worth the 50% speed increase, just do the math!
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If anyone wants a cheap rig, contact me
a real one ? Or a non-existing one ?  Grin

I can provide you with the fake photos of your rigs (well the photo aren't fake, per se )  for 1btc  Grin
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For me you have no excuse, if you had made a bid to release the code I would understand but this is worse than the mafia. Some people lose money with his rigs and don´t have any opportunity to win because your price is fucking crazy
say the guy who is trying to scam people by selling "his" copy of Wolf0  Grin
No matter, what is your point you made yours by trying to sell something you don't have...
anything else you could say after that has absolutely no value.... (calling other "mafia" while trying to con people is highly laughable)

I know, right? Scammer calling other people "mafia," that's funny.

I recieved an offer from "mamator" for selling wolf0's kernel fo 0.5BTC , asked him/her which exact kernel he/she is offering.. and there is no answer...

So have others; I can assure you this "mamator" has no private code of mine.
Do you want the users who make this? the price is 3 btc
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If anyone wants a cheap rig, contact me
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For me you have no excuse, if you had made a bid to release the code I would understand but this is worse than the mafia. Some people lose money with his rigs and don´t have any opportunity to win because your price is fucking crazy
say the guy who is trying to scam people by selling "his" copy of Wolf0  Grin
No matter, what is your point you made yours by trying to sell something you don't have...
anything else you could say after that has absolutely no value.... (calling other "mafia" while trying to con people is highly laughable)

I know, right? Scammer calling other people "mafia," that's funny.

I recieved an offer from "mamator" for selling wolf0's kernel fo 0.5BTC , asked him/her which exact kernel he/she is offering.. and there is no answer...
One person try to sell me the code for 1 btc in miningrigrentals with escrow but the people say this at him and don´t want to sell me, for my part, I´m out of this game.
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It was only the wind.
No point in doing that because the hashrate would increase for everybody and it wouldn't be worth it
This is with this kind of behavior expect less and less people open sourcing anything.
At some point we all get tired of cheap fucks...

Exactly. But he's kind of right - open sourcing does NOT encourage donations. Why? Because they're making the same amount as before within 24 hours.
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For me you have no excuse, if you had made a bid to release the code I would understand but this is worse than the mafia. Some people lose money with his rigs and don´t have any opportunity to win because your price is fucking crazy
say the guy who is trying to scam people by selling "his" copy of Wolf0  Grin
No matter, what is your point you made yours by trying to sell something you don't have...
anything else you could say after that has absolutely no value.... (calling other "mafia" while trying to con people is highly laughable)

I know, right? Scammer calling other people "mafia," that's funny.

I recieved an offer from "mamator" for selling wolf0's kernel fo 0.5BTC , asked him/her which exact kernel he/she is offering.. and there is no answer...
legendary
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For me you have no excuse, if you had made a bid to release the code I would understand but this is worse than the mafia. Some people lose money with his rigs and don´t have any opportunity to win because your price is fucking crazy
say the guy who is trying to scam people by selling "his" copy of Wolf0  Grin
No matter, what is your point you made yours by trying to sell something you don't have...
anything else you could say after that has absolutely no value.... (calling other "mafia" while trying to con people is highly laughable)
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Of course, and you try to sell for 3 btc, everybody like business, not only you and your friend trying to sell me the code for 1 btc Wink
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For me you have no excuse, if you had made a bid to release the code I would understand but this is worse than the mafia. Some people lose money with his rigs and don´t have any opportunity to win because your price is fucking crazy
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It was only the wind.
hahaha 45btc???
you moron what are u thinking with yourself??
I don't know at what value you estimate gpu dev work in general, but the general feeling among us is "not a lot"...
I don't understand why when many are making substantial money with "our" work, it should just be equivalent to a few beers (if people feel like giving... you did pay for your card you didn't tell amd, nvidia, I will pay if I am happy with the cards... )
Do you know many developper around working for a beer and a soup ?  Grin

on a different note, Ignition75 tried to organize a crowdfunding project to rise fund for optimized x11 kernels which would benefit everyone... and didn't get much success so far (you can probably still pledge however...) too many people just expect free stuff... coming out of nowhere.

So don't complain you did it to yourself (and stop expecting free stuff... while nobody is giving anything back)

I haven't given up djm!

I understand Triplef's argument that if everyone gets the new miner the diff will increase, but it also stops the privileged few running away with most of the profits.

With the alt-coin scene going through a big consolidation, levelling the playing field could be the shot in the arm the mining scene needs.

I still firmly believe if marketed right, the entire community would donate a lot more than 45 BTC for these kinds of improvements...

Been there, done that - they donate pocket change, if anything.
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by the way, if a coin dev is interested there is a big opportunity to makes big bucks here:


that says it all, CLONE me a coin for 5$.....

you do know that 50% of miners are china

china has no copyright concept whatsoever , it's not even a word in chinese i assume.

you know that they reverse engineer most of what they make ? even from themselves ?

if you own a big manufacturer, you know having your products made in china will have them copy it and rebrand it but you HAVE to, else you will sell your product 40% higher and therefore not sell any at all, since they will sell your product rebranded KISO or something on aliexpress for 40% less...

You all want to know how to make a fortune ?

Get 30K get nice videos, rent a warehouse, make a nice site, call it butterfly or knc, have people send you 40K at a time till you get 10 million,

take the 10 million send 4 to china to make an ASIC,  when they produce late ( coz they are mining with it ) they will eventually ship it back to you , then you get 300 ASICS worth shit coz DIFF tripppled by the time you got them but still you mine with them and make a huge cloud mining op, make back the 4 mill you payed the chineese, netting 10 mill , and ship to the retail clients that paid for all this in first case.

rinse, repeat, people are greedy, but also stupid, WOLF is not stupid, HE understood the code, ( cryptography IS NOT EASY) proof of that is NO ONE did the optimizations HE did.
if he puts a fee in the miner, it WILL BE EXTRACTED, netting in a 0 profit for hard work,

legendary
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Girino did that, this "community" reverse engineered it, ripped it out, and put it into sph-sgminer without the fee. Cheap fucks, the lot of them. Did you know darkcoin-mod (also known as x11mod) is basically stolen work?

That's why I'm hating on miners. Not because they don't donate, which is kind of shitty, but because they seem to feel entitled to someone else's work for free, as evidenced by the above.

That's not miners, that's other kernel makers in the community. Miners generally don't have the expertise to do something like that nor would they share it with everyone else if they did. As Djm said he had someone contact him to ask him to remove the fee from Claymore, Djm being another kernel developer... I suppose a miner as well, but a couple cards isn't what I consider a miner.

Perhaps making things more proprietary would be helpful then, but that's up to you. If you want money for you work the best way to do it is with a fee. That makes it accessible to people with little to no money, but can donate hashing power and it scales up.

Hate is a big word, I am just saying.

Only a few people donate while the vast majority is just expecting stuff for free,
and each time a gpu dev ask something for his service, then he is a jerk or an asshole or a hater, this is getting old...

Then put a dev fee on it. If you feel you need money for your work, charge for it. Don't yell at and hate on people for not 'giving enough' when you're looking for donations.

I'm very close to banning all GPU devs from releasing anything until we've sat down and worked out a way everybody wins  Wink

Lower power usage, dev fee!


BTW if the dev fee is extortion like 25% you're going to get a lot of hate and well deserved.
no matter what you ask, it is always too much... and people will do everything to not pay it...
(but yes it is a solution)
by the way, if a coin dev is interested there is a big opportunity to makes big bucks here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/paying-doge-or-for-my-own-altcoin-872542
don't wait too long that opportunity won't last  Grin
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Girino did that, this "community" reverse engineered it, ripped it out, and put it into sph-sgminer without the fee. Cheap fucks, the lot of them. Did you know darkcoin-mod (also known as x11mod) is basically stolen work?

That's why I'm hating on miners. Not because they don't donate, which is kind of shitty, but because they seem to feel entitled to someone else's work for free, as evidenced by the above.

That's not miners, that's other kernel makers in the community. Miners generally don't have the expertise to do something like that nor would they share it with everyone else if they did. As Djm said he had someone contact him to ask him to remove the fee from Claymore, Djm being another kernel developer... I suppose a miner as well, but a couple cards isn't what I consider a miner.

Perhaps making things more proprietary would be helpful then, but that's up to you. If you want money for you work the best way to do it is with a fee. That makes it accessible to people with little to no money, but can donate hashing power and it scales up.

Hate is a big word, I am just saying.

Only a few people donate while the vast majority is just expecting stuff for free,
and each time a gpu dev ask something for his service, then he is a jerk or an asshole or a hater, this is getting old...

Then put a dev fee on it. If you feel you need money for your work, charge for it. Don't yell at and hate on people for not 'giving enough' when you're looking for donations.

I'm very close to banning all GPU devs from releasing anything until we've sat down and worked out a way everybody wins  Wink

Lower power usage, dev fee!


BTW if the dev fee is extortion like 25% you're going to get a lot of hate and well deserved.
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3 btc for 50% more of hashrate is a joke, we can give 25% of hashrate for 1 year for example or 0.5 btc. A lot of times is best a cheap price and a lot of customers than expensive price and a few customers, would be nice that we all raise our mining gpu
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It was only the wind.
Is this still available?

I've still got it.

Do you have more than one for sale?

If you count X11, X13, and X15 as being pretty much the same, and they are, then no. Unless you mean copies, then technically yes.
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