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Quote from: oktay50000 on November 12, 2014, 07:53:33 AM

beer and donate is okay dude and i always support devs
but 45btcs Huh

? wtf
for kernels that may not work with newer drivers or may not work on all systems? Huh

its insane price for kernels for algos that no one knows how long they will be profitable(small profits after asics)

45btc good price for this kernel dude

i wanna buy this kernel soon.

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All cryptos are FIAT digital currency. Do not use.

45 BTC ?! GTFO !

Do you guys realize the dangerous precident this is setting ?

Maybe I should create new algo/ kernel, then sucker the community into volunteering their hashes during the beta phase. THEN.. after it goes live, those very same suckers will be stuck mining with whatever table scraps my greedy fat ass decides they will be allowed to have.

MAN ! I'm a fucking genius ! Roll Eyes

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Well, this is too bad. The only people for whom this makes sense to spend 3 BTC are big mining farms. And odds are extremely high that once the 15 bidders get it, a "leak" will happen somewhere among the 15 so that within days the new software will be available to pretty much everyone. (For example, such big farms will have employees who mine on the side, and they will be strongly tempted to install it on their own machines, and then share with friends who see the results, and so on from there - I really only expect this to take a matter of days).

So in the end we all get it, and the mining farms will not recoup their 3 BTC in a short time before everyone has the same advantage. Plus there is the very real risk that other coders are making improvements as we speak, that will cut into or eliminate the advantage presented here. So what mining farm operator wants to take this kind of risk? Better to just wait til everyone has it...

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The problem is that this is a kernel pre-order. Hardware pre-orders are bad enough.

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Quote from: triplef on November 13, 2014, 07:00:59 PM

Quote from: djm34 on November 13, 2014, 06:35:17 PM

Quote from: triplef on November 13, 2014, 04:58:05 PM

We could split it up to 1.5 btc ,

lol business doesn't seem to be good

since you helped Wolf0, you could have come up with a better estimate for a price... (or lat least one which sells)

he wanted 15,000 USD, thats 45 BTC... cant do 45 times 1 btc and surely not 15000, times 1$

the problem is that people ready to buy it at 3btc (some mid/big farm, I guess), won't want to wait that other big farms get the software too, because they lose their advantages over the competition (which is not the swarm of small miners...).

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Quote from: djm34 on November 13, 2014, 06:35:17 PM

Quote from: triplef on November 13, 2014, 04:58:05 PM

We could split it up to 1.5 btc ,

lol business doesn't seem to be good

since you helped Wolf0, you could have come up with a better estimate for a price... (or lat least one which sells)

he wanted 15,000 USD, thats 45 BTC... cant do 45 times 1 btc and surely not 15000, times 1$

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Quote from: triplef on November 13, 2014, 04:58:05 PM

We could split it up to 1.5 btc ,

lol business doesn't seem to be good

since you helped Wolf0, you could have come up with a better estimate for a price... (or lat least one which sells)

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We could split it up to 1.5 btc ,

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3 btc by person. i think thats a lot. for people with 5-10 gpu isnt profitable at this moment. to be possible to refund 3btc i have to wait 6 or 8 without electricity cost. Am i right

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Quote from: sp_ on November 13, 2014, 08:18:27 AM

All projects needs funding. 50% is not fast enough. Nicehash is currencly only paying 0.1132 BTC/GH/Day. TO ROI you need a miner that is 300% faster.

as i said this isa not for the small rigs owners, if you have 10+ rigs, youll roi in no time

to the math whatmine.com try 200 m/s vs 300 m/s

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Team Black developer

All projects needs funding. 50% is not fast enough. Nicehash is currencly only paying 0.1132 BTC/GH/Day. TO ROI you need a miner that is 300% faster.

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No one will ever buy this way. Look up "prisoner's dilemma". Better find different way to do this.

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Quote from: anatolikostis on November 12, 2014, 03:51:37 PM

will pay 1btc for *.cl but only to Wolf0
resellers of kernel?
hmmm, fck them Shocked

hate pals who are not implementing something usefull but trading with another`s labour

dude i'm not reselling anything i'm working with WOLF to SELL it, i'm the guy making the campaign, the money goes 100% to him.

now if you have something usefull to say go for it.

ps i hate people that judge too quickly or lack the information to make good calls.... ask before you make a judgment.

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will pay 1btc for *.cl but only to Wolf0
resellers of kernel?
hmmm, fck them Shocked

hate pals who are not implementing something usefull but trading with another`s labour

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Quote from: oktay50000 on November 12, 2014, 07:53:33 AM

beer and donate is okay dude and i always support devs
but 45btcs Huh

? wtf
for kernels that may not work with newer drivers or may not work on all systems? Huh

its insane price for kernels for algos that no one knows how long they will be profitable(small profits after asics)

its not 45 BTC, its 3 BTC each for 15 guys...... if you have 1 rig, this is NOT FOR YOU.. if you have 10-20-30+ rigs...youll ROI in 10 days

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Quote from: aikklond on November 12, 2014, 06:13:27 AM

Just a note.

When a kernel is up for sale, its usualy because the Dev knows/suspects that a new/better/free one is under development.

no it issnt, this kernel was not for sale, i kind of offered him the possibility and after thinking about it , he said yeah 15K USD i would sell....

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Quote from: Feneusens on November 12, 2014, 09:43:03 AM

Quote from: triplef on November 11, 2014, 06:27:48 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Mmm who knows.. maybe there are others out there.... Wink

not sure what this is, but these lower temps are scarry ? what hardware is this ?

If you look at his fan speed, you might think that it is actually very hot if he lower down the speed...

yeah but thats not the kernel in question that a poster that posted HIS configs....

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Quote from: triplef on November 11, 2014, 06:27:48 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Mmm who knows.. maybe there are others out there.... Wink

not sure what this is, but these lower temps are scarry ? what hardware is this ?

If you look at his fan speed, you might think that it is actually very hot if he lower down the speed...

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beer and donate is okay dude and i always support devs
but 45btcs Huh

? wtf
for kernels that may not work with newer drivers or may not work on all systems? Huh

its insane price for kernels for algos that no one knows how long they will be profitable(small profits after asics)

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Quote from: oktay50000 on November 12, 2014, 07:19:23 AM

hahaha 45btc???
you moron what are u thinking with yourself??

I don't know at what value you estimate gpu dev work in general, but the general feeling among us is "not a lot"...
I don't understand why when many are making substantial money with "our" work, it should just be equivalent to a few beers (if people feel like giving... you did pay for your card you didn't tell amd, nvidia, I will pay if I am happy with the cards... )
Do you know many developper around working for a beer and a soup ? Grin

on a different note, Ignition75 tried to organize a crowdfunding project to rise fund for optimized x11 kernels which would benefit everyone... and didn't get much success so far (you can probably still pledge however...) too many people just expect free stuff... coming out of nowhere.

So don't complain you did it to yourself (and stop expecting free stuff... while nobody is giving anything back)

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