Topic: $XAI Sapience AIFX - Decentralized AI | 11% PoS | PlumeDB,IBTP on Testnet - page 28. (Read 150241 times)

you are one of reasons why the world is fucked up 

HUE HUE HUE I JUST SPIT MY SOUP AT MY SCREEN!!

I am pity for the fool who think billion dollars company will use this $150.000 coin to "optimize" supply chain. I am not trolling. Dev is trolling all the fools here. And you too dumb to see it.  Genius. 

WTF man. Why you trolling your own coin? Trying to fuck everyone up or what?

I cant blame him for wanting to get more while its still reasonable.

thats just it though.... they are just screens. I could produce a bunch of photoshopped bull shit but that doesn't mean I could produce a finished product.

you wanna fuck off the trolls? then produce a viable and working product. case. closed.

I don't think the troll deserves another quote, so there's that.  

On the other hand, I did like the screens that the dev posted, and for me, it's not about any form of hype or sense of pumping, it is excitement for the project and the things we might achieve as a collaboration, driven by solid development leadership as well as community engagement. The screens simply highlight a few potential use cases for Sapience/XAI.

This project is just taking off the ground. While development pace has not perhaps been awesome, it's been really good, in my view. I'd imagine that if the crowd fund had raised ten times more more funds, it would be much easier to get (read: hire) more people and resources to code on the platform and progress even faster. As we know, the crowd fund raised modest funds, and so expectations should take all of that into consideration.

The flipside of all this is extremely positive, looking long term.
The crowd fund is far into the past now, and development continues to be as committed as ever, with more meaningful discussions taking place as we move forward. Just look at the recent examples of people looking at Sapience/XAI as candidate platform for their needs, one a real world industrial application, another one a specialized asset token.

If we all collaborate to spread word about Sapience/XAI, we can increase the audience many times over. This wider audience is vital. Each new person to join the community, is a potential investor, or a potential app consumer, or a potential app developer, or any combination thereof.
To complete the line of thought, that's why I really liked the screens!

I, XAI
^{and you?}

That's actually demonstrating what XAI is being built to be capable of doing.

But anyway seeing as you are just here to troll might as well point out that it sounds like you've been scammed too many times because of your own past poor judgement... oh wait... you have! hahaha

If this not raising the red flags, what does? making me giggle

Yeah, you're exactly right......go buy some balls or something.  Thanks.

Would you be able to explain why it looks like a scam and point out in more detail what part of the project so far would lead you to believe the dev for XAI is not capable of delivering.

Looks like a scam! You dumb peasants fall for this tricks? I laugh

All variations are certainly possible. We can have cases where a single individual is both the programmer & consumer, as well as we can have cases were a user hires someone else to code a purpose-built application for them. In the latter scenario, the user might be the application consumer, but there could also be instances where the application consumers are external parties.

I estimate that the asset market will be an important milestone, in that it will enable additional business models, by issuing specific tokens for the use of certain services or applications. In any case, even as right now, one can specifically hire one's own Sapience nodes for a certain application contract, and thus the availability of the respective application is under control. The application developer already has all the necessary tools to set whatever availability boundaries he desires.


I'd have to imagine that such a UI is a possibility, but I'm guessing that it will be a relatively distant target for now. Similar efforts can be observed by navigating the various programming learning platforms that have become popular over the past couple of years (i.e, Code.org). The few UIs today that can really claim "anyone can build a simple application", are extremely limited in terms of what kind of apps can be produced.
I would say that there's definitely steps taken towards making the development process easier, and that's exactly the case of the embedded LUA console. It allows one to quickly check for the interactions between the Sapience network and a code snippet, prior to wide deployment.

I, XAI
^{and you?}

Thanks for answering my questions myagui, you've really cleared things up. However one thing is still not quite clear to me. The distributed application owner, is that a developer who develops a distributed application and then 'sells' access to that application to the end user? Or is the end user the distributed application owner? Will their be a UI that is so simple that anyone can build a simple application?

I CANT WAIT !  Yes, this would be me.  I have two factories with two process control networks standing by, and yes, as soon as the platform is ready for us to develop something on, I will be working on this !  Very excited.   

I don't think there's such a thing as a 'stupid question'! It's great to see the debate moving towards the technical merits and brainstorming about the potential applications for Sapience/XAI.

Nodes: Nodes are the participating Sapience wallets. Each wallet owner makes the decision to have some of his computing resources on the Sapience/XAI network, and the wallet owner can even set his own fee/charge metrics (or simply use the default values).

Rewards: So while the nodes can settle their target fee/charge metrics, the distributed application owner has the decision of which nodes to hire for any given task. When starting a distributed application, the process is roughly as follows: a) app owner queries nodes for a service contract, b) nodes respond with resource availability & fee metrics, c) app owner picks his choice selection of nodes to hire for the task, accepting the selected service offers.

The native cost for the network operations is Sapience/XAI, but I'm guessing that as the asset market gets released, there might be alternative tokens for subsets of functionality or node groups. This scheme allows for cost effective and redundant distribution of data and computing services over the Sapience/XAI network.

Some of the most interesting use cases, are a result of the particular combination of a deep learning framework (machine learning) along with the peer to peer network. Such services are usually only available through high paying contracts with big data companies.

One important outcome of this operational logic, is that a certain Sapience/XAI demand will get established over time, as Sapience/XAI is used to pay for services and contracts on the network. The demand and valuation should gravitate towards the utility value of the services provided. This is specially interesting as it stands for an actual use case: a meaningful real world application (more correctly, many real world applications) supporting - and supported by - the Sapience/XAI blockchain.

I, XAI
^{and you?}

Very cool Joe. I am trying to wrap my brain around all of this ...
So if I understand correctly, the consumerization would happen in steps:
- Development of the Sapience network
- Adoption by techies who will start building applications
- Adoption by the non-technical community who will start using the applications.

Still a couple of questions (probably stupid questions again):
- So the Sapience network will consist of nodes, the nodes being local machines. How can you take part in this network if you would want to and what would be the reward exactly (I assume it would be receiving XAI, but how would that work)?
- How will the end user of the network (e.g. the Controller in a small company who wants to use a financial app built by a techie) pay for the service provided? Will they pay in dollars or XAI?



Thanks!

Another thing I'd like to point out is that we have a key competitive advantage over other cryptos in that our solution has a ton of industrial applications across all sorts of vertical markets.  I was talking in IRC earlier about PLC's and process manufacturing, that is just one out of many potential applications.  There is a big market out there of mid-size companies that can't necessarily afford to buy top-shelf proprietary software and don't have the muscle to negotiate volume discount deals with the big vendors.  The same holds true across universities and research organizations - not everyone is well-funded and winning all of the big money grants.  And these folks can't necessarily afford to pay $250k out of their budget to have a custom solution built.  We have a compelling cost-competitive alternative and I'd venture to guess that a lot of those organizations might be willing to adopt something as bleeding edge as a blockchain solution simply because they don't have many if any alternative options, but they are feeling pains that we can solve.  So we have a lot of opportunities to potentially "sell" into, and maybe do some client-joint-development to build some case studies.  We'll just need to train some of you as our integration specialists first

This particular PR was intended, I think, to raise awareness.  I rewrote most of it because what was sent back was mostly just cut-and-pasted from the ANN's.  I was trying to keep it "pro" and targeting to try to catch some interest and maybe some coverage from the larger tech sites.

I was trying to think of a good analogy and the best I could think of is Microsoft (yeah, I know, Microsoft... ), in that the strategy I am working towards is to have the complete end-to-end platform/own the value chain... and by that I mean you can think of our tech stack like the MSDN/TechNet of Microsoft, and the next gen wallet and consumer oriented/mass market stuff as like Windows and the Surface (this is super generalized but I think it gets the idea across).  And so to really fire on all cylinders that means we are going to want to ramp up 2 forms of PR - technical evangelism, and mass marketing/less technical PR's.  I guess the one that just went out maybe falls somewhere in the middle and could have been dumbed down a little.  It's a tricky thing because technical people and dev's have vastly different expectations and perceptions than non-techie folks and if you dumb it down too much then they question whether it's just fluff or not.

Once we drop the end-to-end build, we'll be able to start cultivating technical evangelists - dev folks who start to play with it, realize the cool stuff they can build with it, and start building cool things; and we will have the credibility to stand on and point to.

Then, we have something else coming that is, IMHO, really going to capture some wide general interest and should go a long way to help on the mass appeal end of things and pull in a wider audience.  I'm not ready to disclose what that is yet, but within the next week that will go public.  It is something else that we will be a "1st" with.  I want to get through the initial AI Core drop this week first.  So we hit it hard on the tech end and then have a strong follow through on the adoption end.  More cool toys for everyone to play with soon

It may not be the best for the masses, but it is a nice reference to help promote this project more. I am sure this will bring more interest from people who can grasp the technology and want to get in while the entry cost is still very low.

Um, I'm not sure that I agree with that.  While it is cool that its getting exposure on yahoo, the wording sucks as far as putting something out there that the masses can wrap their minds around.  I'm sure the marketing will get better once the PR is addressed.