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Edit: re: cryptorambler, I think the most urgent needs are get the blockchain out of RAM and into db, whether that is monero's lmdb implementation or bytecoin's rocksdb, and then have someone tune up the pool code so mining isn't an ongoing clusterfuck.

Thank you Jwinterm... isn't the work being done by 1blockologist or CZ addressing these issues?

 Do you know if RUNE is planned to include this work?

RUNE is planned to include this work

The pool code is different
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all this is not good for bbr ( 14k sat now )
you have to solve this ego problems quickly

Everyone is selling their boolberry to one of three people. Try not to be so gullible.
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Edit: re: cryptorambler, I think the most urgent needs are get the blockchain out of RAM and into db, whether that is monero's lmdb implementation or bytecoin's rocksdb, and then have someone tune up the pool code so mining isn't an ongoing clusterfuck.

Thank you Jwinterm... isn't the work being done by 1blockologist or CZ addressing these issues?

 Do you know if RUNE is planned to include this work?
newbie
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As already posted on the other thread. I've finally created a slack for BBR https://bbrproject.slack.com, if you want to join, please provide your email address. I'll send an invite then.
legendary
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all this is not good for bbr ( 14k sat now )
you have to solve this ego problems quickly
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Hi Folk!

Just want to notice everyone, as soon as you install third-party builds of BBR you taking not only a risk of getting unstable/broken build, u also take a risk of getting spyware/malware which can steal money (BBRs, Bitcoins, whatever u use), it's all based on trust of developer.

My strong advice - be very careful with all that you install basically, at least use virtual machines (like vmvare, paralells, virtual box) for this things.
Or, build it from sources yourself.



Zoidberg.


what does he mean!!  Huh be careful of Boolberry Run edtion?

At the moment i can say only that 1blocklologist didn't get my trust yet.
He rejected to contribute to BBR repository with my code review, he did't show competence in BBR code base, he didn't do any improvements yet.

For me it looks like a fake, so be careful.

Zoidberg.

What Zoidberg is saying is that we aren't submitting pull requests to his repository that hasn't been had a code update in over a year.

Pull requests are a way of submitting code changes to an open source project so that the steward of the project can decide if they want to merge that code into the "official code".

As we consider ourselves the stewards now this is clearly an unnecessary step because our code is equally as official and newer. It is important to note that when we made our proclamations of stewardship, nobody had heard from CryptoZoidberg in months and there were no code updates for over a year.

We have made two very benign changes to the codebase in the RUNE edition that are so basic that we get criticism for it being not being a big enough change yet. So it will be difficult for us to simultaneously respond to how obviously little changes we've made so far, alongside an allegation from a competent developer that our simple changes may be hiding something nefarious.

CryptoZoidberg has the opportunity to make confidence inspiring and collaborative statements, and chooses to write awkward non sequiturs too ambiguous for the market.

We don't really have an opinion on that. Some people are using the RUNE client, and that is what will be updated. He is welcome to submit pull requests to our repository, and we will also continue rebasing and pulling from his boolberry repository if he actually does start updating it there. This is actually a very professional and standard way of managing git repositories, and this is the level of professionalism we are trying to bring to open source blockchain development and cryptoassets.
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If they're trivial then why hasn't zoidberg or blockology or clintar out anyone implemented any of them? These things have been in the works for years and I strongly disagree that any of them are trivial.

Edit: re: cryptorambler, I think the most urgent needs are get the blockchain out of RAM and into db, whether that is monero's lmdb implementation or bytecoin's rocksdb, and then have someone tune up the pool code so mining isn't an ongoing clusterfuck.

Problem is not pool code, but miner code
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If they're trivial then why hasn't zoidberg or blockology or clintar out anyone implemented any of them? These things have been in the works for years and I strongly disagree that any of them are trivial.

Edit: re: cryptorambler, I think the most urgent needs are get the blockchain out of RAM and into db, whether that is monero's lmdb implementation or bytecoin's rocksdb, and then have someone tune up the pool code so mining isn't an ongoing clusterfuck.
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All that said, CZ is a beast. He did more work for BBR in short period than XMR have done in years.

No offence, but that's idiocy. Tell me again about bbr's database. What's that advanced crypto technique that bbr is implementing that will completely hide TX amounts and allow for non-zero mixin multisig? What's the name of the more efficient and secure replacement for RPC that bbr is implementing?

Oh yea, those are all things Monero has done. Zoidberg changed the PoW to something that causes endless headaches for miners and makes everyone think that a low market cap spin-off is being "DDoSed" all the time, and added on chain aliasing that allows for squatters and scammers to constantly scoop up names for basically zero cost.

Idiocy? None taken. Monero is approaching 3 years old.. All what you have stated about XMR is recent developments spurred by an artificially sustainable pump in marketcap cause by a few obscure darknet markets adding the currency. None of XMR "accomplishments" are remotely related to the pump. If they were, the price would of 2x from the pump ceiling average. Instead we see a complete downtrend reversal to pre-pump position. Signalling a lack of investor faith and a failure by the development team to meet basic usability needs such as a GUI wallet, something CZ managed to do in a few weeks. The only solution being a web wallet ran by a troll who fancies himself a developer which is no surprise to anyone why mymonero has resulted in XMR theft..

If you want to see a real example of progress in a project there is no better example than SDC's developer. From July of 2014 to November of 2014 he started with a Bitcoin codebase and managed to implement one of/if not the first implementations of leveldb in the first few weeks of the project launch. Following that, he implemented the first open source dual key stealth address scheme and furthermore implemented the first ring signature scheme into the bitcoin codebase. He went on even further to make improvements to the ring signatures on the advice of Andy Toshi and Adam Back http://www.texpaste.com/n/xaypn9ni resulting in a 42%+ improvement over the previous ring signatures efficiency and an average of 50% to CN's ring signatures. He accomplished all this and more by starting from scratch unlike Monero.

You should also note that the KeyImage issue is something that was identified by XMR's devs relating to their own project findings and is why they could identify it in SDC's codebase. Rather than approach the devs in a professional manner to claim a bounty, they ran a clear smear campaign against SDC across multiple news publications in typical XMR team fashion. A failed attempt at eliminating a clear competitor and to discredit SDC's work. Shadow is still stronger than ever and XMR is on a serious downtrend.

All that said, XMR started with all this baked in from the bytecoin codebase. So please, don't attempt to lecture me about the relatively trivial improvements the XMR team has attempted to make in a short period of time to sustain its artificially inflated marketshare. The XMR devs have had 3 years to make these improvements. Instead, they've spent their time smearing other projects in a similar fashion to you trying to discount the work done here by CZ to BBR. In comparison to SDC's developer and CZ with BBR it looks like they've been circle jerking each other around a campfire, which in this case would be bitcointalk.
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All that said, CZ is a beast. He did more work for BBR in short period than XMR have done in years.

No offence, but that's idiocy. Tell me again about bbr's database. What's that advanced crypto technique that bbr is implementing that will completely hide TX amounts and allow for non-zero mixin multisig? What's the name of the more efficient and secure replacement for RPC that bbr is implementing?

Oh yea, those are all things Monero has done. Zoidberg changed the PoW to something that causes endless headaches for miners and makes everyone think that a low market cap spin-off is being "DDoSed" all the time, and added on chain aliasing that allows for squatters and scammers to constantly scoop up names for basically zero cost.


Hi jwinterm, we appreciate your input... thanks for your contribution.

How difficult would it be to address your concerns? Hasn't 1blockologist adequately addressed these concerns is his posts and roadmap?

What should be the first priority to deal with?
legendary
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All that said, CZ is a beast. He did more work for BBR in short period than XMR have done in years.

No offence, but that's idiocy. Tell me again about bbr's database. What's that advanced crypto technique that bbr is implementing that will completely hide TX amounts and allow for non-zero mixin multisig? What's the name of the more efficient and secure replacement for RPC that bbr is implementing?

Oh yea, those are all things Monero has done. Zoidberg changed the PoW to something that causes endless headaches for miners and makes everyone think that a low market cap spin-off is being "DDoSed" all the time, and added on chain aliasing that allows for squatters and scammers to constantly scoop up names for basically zero cost.
sr. member
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Hi Folk!

Just want to notice everyone, as soon as you install third-party builds of BBR you taking not only a risk of getting unstable/broken build, u also take a risk of getting spyware/malware which can steal money (BBRs, Bitcoins, whatever u use), it's all based on trust of developer.

My strong advice - be very careful with all that you install basically, at least use virtual machines (like vmvare, paralells, virtual box) for this things.
Or, build it from sources yourself.



Zoidberg.


what does he mean!!  Huh be careful of Boolberry Run edtion?

Zoidberg's advice is sound advice. It's true that any third-party builds should be avoided at all costs. However, Zoidberg's last commit for the project was September 19th, 2015. https://github.com/cryptozoidberg/boolberry/commits/master. The blockology team are trying to be new developers of the project, unless proven otherwise by CZ. The prospective dev team obviously needs to prove themselves to everyone by contributing meaningful commits to the codebase to earn trust.

One of the main advantages of decentralized projects is not to have a single point of failure. If Zoidberg is interested in contributing to the project maybe he can update the codebase since he is receiving a % of all coins mined. A substantial update to the codebase would be an easy 20x for the market cap from here. IMO, he should work with anyone willing to help out on the project since the coins mined from his last commit haven't received much maintenance.

All that said, CZ is a beast. He did more work for BBR in short period than XMR have done in years. If he started working on the project again with the new devs, I have no doubts the project would replace XMR as the top CN currency.
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Hi Folk!

Just want to notice everyone, as soon as you install third-party builds of BBR you taking not only a risk of getting unstable/broken build, u also take a risk of getting spyware/malware which can steal money (BBRs, Bitcoins, whatever u use), it's all based on trust of developer.

My strong advice - be very careful with all that you install basically, at least use virtual machines (like vmvare, paralells, virtual box) for this things.
Or, build it from sources yourself.



Zoidberg.


what does he mean!!  Huh be careful of Boolberry Run edtion?


After i was talk with Zoid, yes including blocklogy guy!
Anyone with some code skills could check the wallets ??
newbie
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Quote from: t2yax on September 22, 2016, 05:37:23 PM
is there a problem ? im still not received those bbrs.
in blockchain there is no result for that payment id
hmmm, please wait i check !!  Undecided
Hello, I have the same problem. Not passed translation from a purse on a stock exchange. Payment Status - "Untsonfyrmed". Could you help me?
PS. Page BBR topic in Russian translated badly. I perfectly know Russian language and would be able to fix it.
legendary
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Hi Folk!

Just want to notice everyone, as soon as you install third-party builds of BBR you taking not only a risk of getting unstable/broken build, u also take a risk of getting spyware/malware which can steal money (BBRs, Bitcoins, whatever u use), it's all based on trust of developer.

My strong advice - be very careful with all that you install basically, at least use virtual machines (like vmvare, paralells, virtual box) for this things.
Or, build it from sources yourself.



Zoidberg.


what does he mean!!  Huh be careful of Boolberry Run edtion?
hero member
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Did the crypto space lobster just issue a warning about builds of rune edition in blue comic sans on the main thread?

Well i guess he is not talking about BBR Rune edition... right ??   Shocked


Hi Folk!

Just want to notice everyone, as soon as you install third-party builds of BBR you taking not only a risk of getting unstable/broken build, u also take a risk of getting spyware/malware which can steal money (BBRs, Bitcoins, whatever u use), it's all based on trust of developer.

My strong advice - be very careful with all that you install basically, at least use virtual machines (like vmvare, paralells, virtual box) for this things.
Or, build it from sources yourself.



Zoidberg.


legendary
Activity: 3136
Merit: 1116
Did the crypto space lobster just issue a warning about builds of rune edition in blue comic sans on the main thread?
hero member
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BBR need some social communication organization ! Its not that hard to make a slack! even the free version of it.. you need to build up a little bit the community, if you are busy with development, ill be glad to help you out guys!
just let me know with a PM
newbie
Activity: 3
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is there a problem ? im still not received those bbrs.
in blockchain there is no result for that payment id
hmmm, please wait i check !!  Undecided
Hello, I have the same problem. Not passed translation from a purse on a stock exchange. Payment Status - "Untsonfyrmed". Could you help me?
PS. Page BBR topic in Russian translated badly. I perfectly know Russian language and would be able to fix it.
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Ok guys who are going to open Twitter and Facebook Boolberry profiles?

there are existing ones that other people control.

CryptoZoidberg controls one Twitter account and won't update it, someone else controls another Twitter account


I am considering launching our own Boolberry twitter accounts and websites, but they would need different maintainers
if you can create account Twitter, i can manage this!! Smiley but if some person can help, you can use this soft https://tweetdeck.twitter.com/

Maybe create a slack BBR?

Yassin, since there is no slack @ present, can or would you consider setting it up?
Sorry i am not expert for this Sad
i can help just for moment Twitter!! Smiley

Regarding slack, I know how to set it up and I can do it this one time. But I don't want to be the go-to guy that has to manage it all the way through. It's not really complicated. Slack is free for up to 1000 users. To invite members an email address is needed. For the initial setup a team name and a desired URL like https://.slack.com are required.

The twitter posts should be created by an individual who speaks/writes English at least on a professional level. But that's just my opinion on social media and public relations.

Should it be yourself or another does not annoy me, what does is the lack of an official twitter thread that would be approved and supported by the developers of that community. I myself have only had a vested interested a few days after 1blockologist announced his intentions. So i have no quims or quams with any other member of the community that would like to come forward and say so.

I'd also like to add that since it seems reasonably acceptable to believe that CZ has only sincere intentions at present by with withholding any public announcements by way of a tweet, (fair doo's)
Maybe we should hire the PR team from CR1 and take a lead by example of how to promote a coin? Or should we keep hush and hudl? lol

For me as someone who has recently been involved is basic dialogue with members of this thread, i simply think the value of having a large community and it's support is the most basic missing component of BBR right now, as a  successful cryptocurrency we need to have a bigger community.

1blockologist has committed himself and his company to the development of the core structure of this coin, not any community etc. I'm in the belief now that it's time to speak up or shut up folks.......

I'd prefer to believe we are that wee bit more intelligent and articulate in our decisions, sick boolberry branding, of the dash vs monero, ETH VS ETC or the X vs Y etc, we won't evolve much, rather get tangled up in the crap we have tried to evolve from.

Last point from me is the the name itself is quite simply genuis, (BOOLBEERRY) Outsider will always remember and we will always know the value Smiley Logo is just simply shite/crap. There is a good desktop pic out there tho, da rest pure disaster and not a berry in sight?HuhHuhHuhHuh?

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