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sr. member
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You are still not getting it.This coin has nothing to back it.It provides no product or service nor is it collateralised by any asset base.Stop talking about community when others such as dogecoin have to date failed miserably.You are NOT going to be a community coin because you have too FEW coins.The only hope you have is an elite coin that caters for the elite user who is prepared to pay at the high end to hold as a store of (WHATEVER??)value or use for whatever service.
You need a sales platform like ebay that digital commerce was supposed to provide and you need to do it before someone else does or dissolve into oblivion..Online banking and safe storage for deposit account holder/end to end user escrow option/online banks and an e-banking protocol etc etc.

But you just go ahead play your game of thrones on the x-box dreaming of nonsense.Bitcoin will eventually have all of this and unless you become better more efficient and streamlined and easier to use(user friendly)you need to give this up now and stop wasting your time.You will only live in hope and die in despair.

So did this guy make an account two days ago just to talk shit?  He seems to know some things... I got a feeling that he was involved with XBC at one point and either got burned or did some burning himself...
full member
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Why not?
.. Would it be possible to change the back end of XBC so that a percentage of the staked coins automatically goes to the team to help fund development, marketing, or overhead...?  What would it take,  to create this?  Team recruiting and retention would be easier with a system like this I would think...  Any thoughts?



That is a good idea and would give devs more skin in the game.A real incentive for any dev team to make a supercoin is to have them paid in that coin so the greater the results equate to greater rewards like a fair bonus structure/scheme

Good idea indeed. and then half to coinholder and other half of the stake to devolpers or even 1/3 holder, 1/3 democratic dev-team, 1/3 good course. Lets build the biggest childcare hospital in the world.
legendary
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.. Would it be possible to change the back end of XBC so that a percentage of the staked coins automatically goes to the team to help fund development, marketing, or overhead...?  What would it take to create this?  Team recruiting and retention would be easier with a system like this I would think...  Any thoughts?



That is a good idea and would give devs more skin in the game.A real incentive for any dev team to make a supercoin is to have them paid in that coin so the greater the results equate to greater rewards like a fair bonus structure/scheme
legendary
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:^)
Mindfox:  IS STILL A PART OF XBC.  He is currently running the main central node of XBC and has specifically told me how he loves the coin to(he still doesn't know why though hahahah) BUT, he is holding the reigns of XBC control and I have spoken many times with him.  All is well with him.

I was unable to find him on IRC on multiple occassions so the next time you chat with him just check if https://github.com/BitcoinPlus-org/bitcoinplus is latest source code, one
used for latest compiled Win wallet and then send me a PM here on the matter, thanks.

subSTRATA are you interested in becoming part of the XBC dev team?You sound intelligent enough to do anything.

I am tyrant, I do not function well as part of any team.
sr. member
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I agree and completely agree with Egghead.  I consider Egghead are part of the team already because of his loyalty(thanks for that my man).  I'm just looking for honest people and yes, we all have a long road ahead of us.  I am patient and I believe as long as we come up with some great ideas coupled with small daily actions we can prove everyone wrong, while still keeping the doors open to anyone that wishes to come back and help us.

GrounBEEFMillenium

legendary
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Mindfox:  IS STILL A PART OF XBC.  He is currently running the main central node of XBC and has specifically told me how he loves the coin to(he still doesn't know why though hahahah) BUT, he is holding the reigns of XBC control and I have spoken many times with him.  All is well with him.

I was unable to find him on IRC on multiple occassions so the next time you chat with him just check if https://github.com/BitcoinPlus-org/bitcoinplus is latest source code, one
used for latest compiled Win wallet and then send me a PM here on the matter, thanks.



subSTRATA are you interested in becoming part of the XBC dev team?You sound intelligent enough to do anything.
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1043
:^)
Mindfox:  IS STILL A PART OF XBC.  He is currently running the main central node of XBC and has specifically told me how he loves the coin to(he still doesn't know why though hahahah) BUT, he is holding the reigns of XBC control and I have spoken many times with him.  All is well with him.

I was unable to find him on IRC on multiple occassions so the next time you chat with him just check if https://github.com/BitcoinPlus-org/bitcoinplus is latest source code, one
used for latest compiled Win wallet and then send me a PM here on the matter, thanks.
sr. member
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TRANSPARENCY UPDATE:

Ok so here's the status right now.

GrounBEEFMillenium: Still in it to win it.  Wishes to help XBC by creating an extension program to XBC called "Parthenon" to aggregate digital artist goods through a dropbox style environment that allows for a way to create an account(with information on name, BTC/XBC account numbers etc.)  Long story short my vision is a lightweight utorrent style client that allows quick tranfer of files once transaction has been sent.  I wish to create the other 98 percent of market that I-tunes-Kindle does not cater to.  Big dreams needs teams and I get that.  Any programmer that wishes to speak with me on this let me know.  Only thing I can do in that regard is maybe pay someone to help me create it.  I have no programming experience and will not pose as otherwise.  Currently owns 1280 XBC and is now a 1/50 shareholder and will not sell until moon landing has happened. CHUP.

Azor:  Still on board, has the files for XBC website and is still around.  I speak with him on a bi-daily basis on skype.

MDTSpain:  Has declined the offer to work on XBC and has sent me a message finalizing that.  The BEEF is sad about this but I understand he has a many projects he and his team are working on.

JJMV:  Has extended his help and wishes to put back up the XBC site(BEEF thanks God for this).  I am currently in talks with him on getting it back up.

CryptoYoda:  Has been gone for a bit because he is currently moving to Finland and has been extremely busy in that regard.  He is still in and we've both talked about loyalty on this coin and how much we dig it.  So no fear he has not left.

Jiapetz:  Gone.

Coinerz:  Gone.

Jammer: Gone.

Mindfox:  IS STILL A PART OF XBC.  He is currently running the main central node of XBC and has specifically told me how he loves the coin to(he still doesn't know why though hahahah) BUT, he is holding the reigns of XBC control and I have spoken many times with him.  All is well with him.
sr. member
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BTW...

Who is still part of the "team"?  Beef, Azor, Yoda, Mindfox (part time), Mr. MTD (if we can persuade him again hopefully)?  Mr. MTD my sincere apologies from the XBC community, sometimes passion for something can come across the wrong way.  Would you continue your work with XBC or would you continue supporting xbc if realistic goals and good communication lines are maintained?

It almost seems like everyone is waiting for clearly defined goals from management.
copper member
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Yeah - I saw the chat:

[17:04] yo
[17:04] whatup
[17:05] thanks alot for this mate
[17:05] I'm gettin alot of flack for not singlehandedly reviving XBC
[17:05] email me at ***@***.***
[17:05] being a cryptoboss is tough
[17:05] goddamn haahha
[17:05] will do
[17:06] I work close with a company called *** out of ***.   They're IT freaks and should be able to help some
[17:06] I've got to talk to Azor, I believe he might have the contents to the website
[17:06] I've tried to get a hold of Coinerz but he never replies to me
[17:06] yet he complains on the forum
[17:06] such crap

[17:06] also gonna need access to whereever the domain is parked and access to dns...
[17:06] yeah I'll get that as soon as I can
[17:07] coinerz should have the account info...  I dont think that getting the site up will be hard, everything else is what will take some work..
[17:07] yeah that's true
[17:08] but yeah man.  Just mail me at my personal or post something on the thread when you get those pieces... Shit I'll help with what I can.  See you back at the polo troll box
[17:09] == jjmv [ce4ad582@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.74.213.130] has quit [Quit: Page closed]


Given my reply above (which again you seem to have totally ignored), why have you lied to this person as well?

As I have said several times now, I sent Azor a zipped copy of the site. I no longer have it as there was no reason to keep hold of it. If you can get it off him, then fine, if you can't, I'm afraid that your unprofessional and accusatory attitude has ensured that you are on your own here. You should post the correspondence that I asked for before asking for favours.
sr. member
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The devs want to be compensated for a very specialized skill, and I agree with that.  I can also see how it would be a nightmare for a dev to work with a dysfunctional team.  I think most of us can see that.  Could be the reason why Mindfox and MTD are on the way out, but who knows, that's just my perspective.  I would be frustrated as well if I were in their shoes...

With that said... Would it be possible to change the back end of XBC so that a percentage of the staked coins automatically goes to the team to help fund development, marketing, or overhead...?  What would it take to create this?  Team recruiting and retention would be easier with a system like this I would think...  Any thoughts?

The wallet works and it's solid, the organs are fine.  XBC needs a brain (direction from a core team), a face lift (website and social media), and a doctor (the devs).  Expansion projects, such Parthenon, sorry to say, may have to wait until a more stable foundation and a committed team is in place, but this is just my opinion.

Realistically, yes, there's a good chance for failure, but that goes for 90% of all the alts...  If it dies, well, it dies, but it will die with the website online.

Hell, my wife had a high chance of failure, a lot of fud was thrown out, I left and then I came back...  Ultimately, I stuck with her through the rough patches and it all worked out fine in the long run... hey a little humor never killed anyone...
sr. member
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Oldnoob I have definitely thought about this and to be honest I don't want the leadership role of XBC. I will be its King though!  As far as being serious on the coin and ensure its future(with me in supreme full support)I will extend my reach out MDTSpain and maybe see if we can agree on some type of plan together(if he still wishes to help however).  The reasons are quite obvious. If I programmed for crypto as well as I played guitar then I'd manhandle this whole thing myself.  I don't want to sound inadequate here but Coinerz is right.  I know what strengths I have and which ones I don't.  I am a certified shareholder and retainer of XBC value and I intend to represent the truth and dignity on that.  Let's keep MOVIN! much love and Chup.

GROUNBEEFMILLENIUM(PROUD OWNER OF 1280 XBC and counting).

And another thing too. I am a man of positivity and wish to say thanks to everyone still believing.  Were gonna make this work and move back up the ranks!
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Why not?
Coinerz, we need the domain parking info and DNS access do we have this or not?

I am getting the files from Azor(just spoke with him) and he will be sending me the files.  Jjmv is willing to extend his hand to help and am very grateful for that.  Coinerz, thanks for helping with the transition and all.  Getting XBC back on top is gonna be tough, I am not afraid and once again(because I'm too excited) I will reitorate that GrounBEEFtaxi has over 1200 XBC now and am a certified shareholder of the coin.  I am promising to all on here that I will not sell and scam to make profit and I will hold onto the coin until it reaches parity with Bitcoin.  That is my solemn promise and that is all I can say at the moment.


GrounBEEFtaxi

Well done g-beef.Do we address you as g-beefmillenium now?

Ok congrats GB. Now ask MDT again to take over things. There is a change he is still interested, but you have to ask in a nice way. I think it was miscommunication. Being a coin dev is a 24/7 job and is much more than one project. Be completely open and hand him over passwords and accounts. He is a pro and knows people who can develop, communicate and much more. You can do the Parthenon project simultaneous and together with MDT. You Azor an CryptoYoda can be the Parthenon dev's and MDT the general dev. Think of this please.
legendary
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Coinerz, we need the domain parking info and DNS access do we have this or not?

I am getting the files from Azor(just spoke with him) and he will be sending me the files.  Jjmv is willing to extend his hand to help and am very grateful for that.  Coinerz, thanks for helping with the transition and all.  Getting XBC back on top is gonna be tough, I am not afraid and once again(because I'm too excited) I will reitorate that GrounBEEFtaxi has over 1200 XBC now and am a certified shareholder of the coin.  I am promising to all on here that I will not sell and scam to make profit and I will hold onto the coin until it reaches parity with Bitcoin.  That is my solemn promise and that is all I can say at the moment.


GrounBEEFtaxi

Well done g-beef.Do we address you as g-beefmillenium now?
sr. member
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Coinerz, we need the domain parking info and DNS access do we have this or not?

I am getting the files from Azor(just spoke with him) and he will be sending me the files.  Jjmv is willing to extend his hand to help and am very grateful for that.  Coinerz, thanks for helping with the transition and all.  Getting XBC back on top is gonna be tough, I am not afraid and once again(because I'm too excited) I will reitorate that GrounBEEFtaxi has over 1200 XBC now and am a certified shareholder of the coin.  I am promising to all on here that I will not sell and scam to make profit and I will hold onto the coin until it reaches parity with Bitcoin.  That is my solemn promise and that is all I can say at the moment.


GrounBEEFtaxi
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Coinerz, just need the details on where the domain is parked and access to DNS(requested by jjmv on Poloniex).  Thanks and I'll try to get a hold of you in other routes just to make sure you get the message. 
copper member
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As far as coinerz calling me out, If I'm the one that "doesn't understand crypto development" then maybe he can tell me why he jumped ship and quit.

I first mentioned that I would not be carrying on with XBC on July 6th
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7707423

and again on July 10th
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7773113

I had also spoken with Crypto Yoda and Azor at length about how I would be stepping aside as soon as XBC hit Mintpal. Ground Beef Taxi, you would have known this. In fact, Azor posted a message on August 8th (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8243676) which states:

... and when they realized that they cannot fulfill them, most of them left the coin and there were just Coinerz and jia to help with the transition...

Again this shows that you guys already knew that I had stepped out of XBC. To claim that I 'jumped ship and quit' is rather disingenuous. I provided several hundred pounds worth of development FOR FREE in order to ensure that XBC could be transitioned to a new team. I didn't see anyone else from the previous team staying on to make sure that XBC was in a good state to continue. They genuinely did jump ship.

I've tried to contact Coinerz a many times with NO response(not to mention I still have all of the skype messages I sent him).

I'll come to the Skype messages in a moment. Your above statement says that you tried to contact me 'many times' with no response AS WELL as contacting me on SKYPE. If you could also post the other times you've tried to contact me - eg email, Facebook, PMs on here, I would be very grateful as I have no such record.

Skype messages are below that were UNANSWERED.

[8/4/2014 11:49:55 AM] GrounBEEF Taxi: Hey Coinerz its GrounBEEF, XBC is alive and well.  I hope to GOD you're still with us and I'm going to be organizing a group chat on here very soon. I've been talking with Mindfox on a daily and we've got something brewing.
[8/4/2014 11:50:05 AM] GrounBEEF Taxi: I'll keep you posted.
[8/4/2014 12:18:42 PM] GrounBEEF Taxi: Ok Coinerz, so I've talked with Mindfox about making a mobile wallet which he is down with
[8/4/2014 12:18:58 PM] GrounBEEF Taxi: We have to probably organize a crowdfunding platform for him so he's rightfully paid this time.
[8/4/2014 12:22:11 PM] GrounBEEF Taxi: however, Azor just mentioned to me that you decided not to be a part of XBC anymore? I hope that is not true.  If you wish me to stop sending you messages than please let me know.
[8/4/2014 12:23:05 PM] GrounBEEF Taxi: However, a mobile wallet and a simultaneous design upgrade for XBC has been ok'd by Mindfox.  However he must be compensated this time so we have to organize a crowdfunding on the forum for him.

I admit that these messages - all sent within a 35 minute period appear in my logs. They were not answered for two reasons. Firstly, as had been discussed at length with Crypto Yoda and Azor, I had already stepped out of XBC. As I mentioned above, you would have known this. Secondly, from the 1st to the 8th of August, I was actually on holiday. Did you not think about sending me an email here?

[8/14/2014 2:53:57 PM] GrounBEEF Taxi: Coinerz.  We need the site up my man, how much is it per year?

There is no record of this message in my logs. However rather than doubting what you are saying, I would like to ask the following:

Firstly, I supplied the entire website in a zip, along with instructions on how to get it up and running on a new host AND I gave you fourteen days notice that the site would be going offline on around 8th August. If you had really sent this message, surely you would have asked this question during the fourteen day notice period and not waited until SIX DAYS after the site went offline to send me this message.

Surely it doesn't take much to type 'website hosting' into Google, either?

XBC is here to stay and it won't leave the Poloniex exchange.

If it does stay on Poloniex, this will be 100% down to the relationship between Mindfox and Poloniex, not because of the performance of XBC or the current team.

It will grow and to be honest.

I genuinely hope that despite the constant fud surrounding XBC that your words are true. However as I said before, it's game over unless there are huge changes.

NOBODY knows what crypto will come out on top.......in fact Bitcoin is looking downward so all is pretty much in the air as we speak.

Bitcoin will come out on top. There is no question about it. All other alt coins are measured in Satoshis - denominations of Bitcoin - and the market capitalisation of Bitcoin makes up approximately 90% of the entire crypto market. If you factor in that yesterday Bitcoin integration was announced for Paypal (http://www.coindesk.com/braintree-ceo-paypal-moving-toward-bitcoin-acceptance/) then you'll appreciate that it's a no-brainer. The battle has already been won.

I've said it once and I'll say it again.  I am NOT ever leaving XBC.  Period.

Good luck - I genuinely mean that!
sr. member
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Everyone......the day has come, I HAVE EXACTLY 1208.83046834 XBC.  I am super happy, CHUP.   I will hold my 1,208 until it reaches Jupiter and I just wanted to let everyone know who has invested in the coin that I am here to stay.  GROUNBEEF HAS ATTAINED 1000 MORE XBC.  Grabs some champagne and cheers to the moon.

GrounBEEFtaxi........
sr. member
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MDT, I've already sent you an email saying it wasn't a website/payment thing but an actual program that takes a bit from dropbox and a bit of things from other programs as well and incorporates it into a economy contained within the program.  The last email you said you don't do website payments structures and that you only do C++, which is what I definitely need.  If it's hard to understand than I don't know what to say, however I've mentioned to you that if you were interested to see what Azor, myself and Yoda came up with(all the notes on the pirate pad that has the details of Parthenon) than I'd gladly disclose the information.  Let me know please thanks.
legendary
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@ oldnoob   I suggest you stop posting links without warning people what they are connecting to.Can you tell us here who has overall responsibility for the XBC official site and the twitter page you posted above yesterday?

You also suggested that we leave our wallets open.Do you know if the nodes our wallets are connecting to are safe?Who is also responsible for the nodes that our wallets are connecting to?



I will take care more in the future with links and stuff. About the technical things I don't know nothing about that.

I am just trying to do everything I can to save this coin. I try to keep people communicating and try to keep this Ann alive.

What Coinerz said about bitcoin winning the battle over all this other altcoins is absolutely true. That's exactly why BitcoinPlus has such a high potential.

Again, GroundBEEF go and talk with MDTSpain and show all you're cards. Or tell us what you are up to and fast, so the community can help you.

Coinerz Thanks for explanation.

I have been in contact with oldnoob and with GroundbeefTaxi. Olnoob asked me if I would be interested to help XBC and I was. So I tried to contact GroundBeefTaxi to see what needed to be done. The initial contact was very difficult....every answer took 3 days to respond. Later we had contact via email....that improved the case.

GroundBeefTaxi is not open about what he wants, or he himself doesn't know excactly what he wants. In any case that is not how I can work nor can any other programer. My conclusion for what GroundBeefTaxi wanted, was that he isn't looking for somebody to do work on the wallet or on the coin, but is looking for somebody that can make him a website where he wants to include XBC as a payment option. If I understood that wrong...then so be it, because as I mentioned, he's not clear about that.

To recap everything... I am not going to work on this coin, but hope that everybody involved in it will make it as BIG as bitcoin itself
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