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legendary
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Mal, this may be the greatest product since sliced bread, but it is a lousy investment for a crowd sale.  

How much profit do you think a $9 product delivers?  25-50 cents maybe?  So how long will it take for an investor to get a ROI of 100%?  

Delivery is 9 months away?  5000 units @ 50 cents profit each is nothing.  

I hope you did not invest in it.  We have a more lucrative crowd sale coming soon.  Hold on to your benjamins!

I don't care at all about profitability or ROI of the CHIP computer.  I care about its thousands and soon to be millions of user eyeballs seeing a Crypti Lite app icon on its main screen.  This thing is going to go from a user base of zero to a user base of millions.  We can act now to become their default cryptocoin they use among each other.  Let's do that.
hero member
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The suggestion to develop a Crypti version for the CHIP is a good one, and they are local here in Oakland, so maybe we can arrange to meet.

I have even better option than $9 CHIP.  Someone's Android phone. They already have it - so it's free.  Just install Crypti Lite there.

I agree this is a great idea.  However, Crypti is written in node.js.

The advantage of the CHIP-$9 is that it runs Linux, which means it can run node.js, which means it can run Crypti.  So Crypti could reach 5,000-10,000 CHIP-$9 owners starting upon its initial release in Dec 2015 - Jan 2016.  

Running node.js natively as a compiled application in Android is theoretically possible but yet to be demonstrated, and impossible on iOS / iPhones.

There is "bridge" software under development called JXCore ( technically a fork of node.js)  that will allow node.js software to run on Android AND iOS.   This may be the most promising path to get Crypti running on mobile, but it is probably going to take a while.   See:

http://www.infoworld.com/article/2838799/node-js/next-up-for-nodejs-going-mobile.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brian-rinaldi/build-mobile-apps-with-ja_b_6786920.html
http://www.infoworld.com/article/2886740/application-development/nodejs-variant-jxcore-goes-open-source-aims-for-mobile-developers.html
http://jxcore.com/home/

Crypti devs, I am not a node.js programmer, I just talk like one in forums to sound smart and impress people.  Please correct me where I am wrong in my analysis above.

Getting Crypti on mobile is critical.  All of the visible work so far is getting it onto desktops with a pretty UI, but the world is shifting away from desktops towards mobile devices and Crypti needs to as well.  What's the plan / timeline for that?

If we cannot get Crypti running on an Android smartphone by Jan 2016, I STRONGLY urge that we work to get it running for 10,000 CHIP-$9 users by Jan 2016.  Please discuss this in today's meeting if possible.

CHIP-$9 is taking off like a rocket.  They wanted to raise $50K, they currently have $750K pledged in the FIRST FIVE DAYS and they've still got 25 days to go.  They have added a second batch of deliveries for 5K units in Jan 2016 because their 5K units for Dec 2015 delivery have sold out.  CRYPTI NEEDS TO PIGGYBACK ON THE CHIP-$9 PROJECT WHERE BITCOIN CANNOT AND SO BECOME KNOWN AMONG ITS SUPPORTERS, MANY OF WHOM HAVE NEVER HEARD OF ANY CRYPTOCOIN.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598272670/chip-the-worlds-first-9-computer

Mal, this may be the greatest product since sliced bread, but it is a lousy investment for a crowd sale. 

How much profit do you think a $9 product delivers?  25-50 cents maybe?  So how long will it take for an investor to get a ROI of 100%? 

Delivery is 9 months away?  5000 units @ 50 cents profit each is nothing. 

I hope you did not invest in it.  We have a more lucrative crowd sale coming soon.  Hold on to your benjamins!
legendary
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
Our product roadmap is a personal server which can link with other units to create a cloud network which is decentralized and owned by the users. The user can either store his data just on his own system or have it securely backed up and available on the cloud. The storage coins, Storj, Maidsafe, and Sia are still in early development so our initial product is a Bitcoin full node which can also be used as a full node for other coins.

I am a little confused about how this product roadmap leads to a vendor that can easily accept Crypti for payment.  When / how does THAT capability come about?

Our plan has been to go to a custom board to reduce costs by removing unused components and increase RAM when volume is sufficient. The $9 CHIP shows what is possible... other comparable products are likely to appear in the meantime.

Like this?  Which runs node.js?

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/706167548/dominoio-an-open-hardware-wifi-platform-for-things
legendary
Activity: 938
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The suggestion to develop a Crypti version for the CHIP is a good one, and they are local here in Oakland, so maybe we can arrange to meet.

I have even better option than $9 CHIP.  Someone's Android phone. They already have it - so it's free.  Just install Crypti Lite there.

I agree this is a great idea.  However, Crypti is written in node.js.

The advantage of the CHIP-$9 is that it runs Linux, which means it can run node.js, which means it can run Crypti.  So Crypti could reach 5,000-10,000 CHIP-$9 owners starting upon its initial release in Dec 2015 - Jan 2016.  

Running node.js natively as a compiled application in Android is theoretically possible but yet to be demonstrated, and impossible on iOS / iPhones.

There is "bridge" software under development called JXCore ( technically a fork of node.js)  that will allow node.js software to run on Android AND iOS.   This may be the most promising path to get Crypti running on mobile, but it is probably going to take a while.   See:

http://www.infoworld.com/article/2838799/node-js/next-up-for-nodejs-going-mobile.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brian-rinaldi/build-mobile-apps-with-ja_b_6786920.html
http://www.infoworld.com/article/2886740/application-development/nodejs-variant-jxcore-goes-open-source-aims-for-mobile-developers.html
http://jxcore.com/home/

Crypti devs, I am not a node.js programmer, I just talk like one in forums to sound smart and impress people.  Please correct me where I am wrong in my analysis above.

Getting Crypti on mobile is critical.  All of the visible work so far is getting it onto desktops with a pretty UI, but the world is shifting away from desktops towards mobile devices and Crypti needs to as well.  What's the plan / timeline for that?

If we cannot get Crypti running on an Android smartphone by Jan 2016, I STRONGLY urge that we work to get it running for 10,000 CHIP-$9 users by Jan 2016.  Please discuss this in today's meeting if possible.

CHIP-$9 is taking off like a rocket.  They wanted to raise $50K, they currently have $750K pledged in the FIRST FIVE DAYS and they've still got 25 days to go.  They have added a second batch of deliveries for 5K units in Jan 2016 because their 5K units for Dec 2015 delivery have sold out.  CRYPTI NEEDS TO PIGGYBACK ON THE CHIP-$9 PROJECT WHERE BITCOIN CANNOT AND SO BECOME KNOWN AMONG ITS SUPPORTERS, MANY OF WHOM HAVE NEVER HEARD OF ANY CRYPTOCOIN.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598272670/chip-the-worlds-first-9-computer
hero member
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Crypti Community Manager
Just to keep you guys informed. Yesterday too many Crypti foundation members couldn't participate the weekly meeting, therefore we moved it to today. Smiley
newbie
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I went through it briefly, from what I understand, it is very nice and the amount accumulated is impressive.
However - CHIP with HDMI adapter is 24$,
While RPi was 35$. with HDMI, 4 USB's ad its community is big enough for newbies to jump right.
CHIP is a long way from there.... But I see where you are getting at, and I agree, just don't know if CHIP is the right one.

 
 
hero member
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welcome!

I just wanted to introduce myself!  I'm Nick and am pretty new to the cryptocurrency forums.  I've been reading about Crypti for over a year and really like where this technology is headed.  I'm interested to see what else we can do with blockchain technologies and Dapp development.  I really like this concept of using smart contracts to build trustchains among strangers for distributed apps.    I just set up my first Crypti node and look forward to being apart of this community!
-NicoG
legendary
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Merit: 1003
I just wanted to introduce myself!  I'm Nick and am pretty new to the cryptocurrency forums.  I've been reading about Crypti for over a year and really like where this technology is headed.  I'm interested to see what else we can do with blockchain technologies and Dapp development.  I really like this concept of using smart contracts to build trustchains among strangers for distributed apps.    I just set up my first Crypti node and look forward to being apart of this community!
-NicoG
Welcome to the community. Enjoy your stay
hero member
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I just wanted to introduce myself!  I'm Nick and am pretty new to the cryptocurrency forums.  I've been reading about Crypti for over a year and really like where this technology is headed.  I'm interested to see what else we can do with blockchain technologies and Dapp development.  I really like this concept of using smart contracts to build trustchains among strangers for distributed apps.    I just set up my first Crypti node and look forward to being apart of this community!
-NicoG

Just so everyone knows, I've known Nick in real life for 14 years. He has been living vicariously through me in the Crypto world and finally decided it was time to jump on board and get involved. Apparently when you show people what we are working on (Crypti), they get really excited about it!  Wink
newbie
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I just wanted to introduce myself!  I'm Nick and am pretty new to the cryptocurrency forums.  I've been reading about Crypti for over a year and really like where this technology is headed.  I'm interested to see what else we can do with blockchain technologies and Dapp development.  I really like this concept of using smart contracts to build trustchains among strangers for distributed apps.    I just set up my first Crypti node and look forward to being apart of this community!
-NicoG
sr. member
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Yes, Crypti Lite makes a lot of sense for mobile devices. It can also be useful for embedded devices, like Point of Sale terminals, vending machines, supply chain management, mesh networking nodes, and distributed storage and compute networks.
legendary
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Our product roadmap is a personal server which can link with other units to create a cloud network which is decentralized and owned by the users. The user can either store his data just on his own system or have it securely backed up and available on the cloud. The storage coins, Storj, Maidsafe, and Sia are still in early development so our initial product is a Bitcoin full node which can also be used as a full node for other coins.

Our plan has been to go to a custom board to reduce costs by removing unused components and increase RAM when volume is sufficient. The $9 CHIP shows what is possible, as our target retail price is below $100 for a mass market consumer device. By going to flip chip design, where the integrated circuits are mounted directly to the printed circuit substrate with out leads and packaging, the electronics assembly can be a lot smaller since it essentially a single hybrid integrated circuit. 1 year for production delivery is a long time to wait, and other comparable products are likely to appear in the meantime.

The suggestion to develop a Crypti version for the CHIP is a good one, and they are local here in Oakland, so maybe we can arrange to meet.

I have even better option then 9$ CHIP.

Someone's Android phone. They already have it - so it's free.

Just install Crypti Lite there.
hero member
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Crypti Community Manager
We are excited to present the upcoming new UI, to be featured in the 0.3.0 version of Crypti!

[Suspicious link removed]/official/design-small.jpg[/img]
I like the new UI design really clean!

Crypti.ws is my site. Don't worry, it isn't suspicious. Smiley
newbie
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We are excited to present the upcoming new UI, to be featured in the 0.3.0 version of Crypti!

[Suspicious link removed]/official/design-small.jpg[/img]
I like the new UI design really clean!
sr. member
Activity: 432
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Our product roadmap is a personal server which can link with other units to create a cloud network which is decentralized and owned by the users. The user can either store his data just on his own system or have it securely backed up and available on the cloud. The storage coins, Storj, Maidsafe, and Sia are still in early development so our initial product is a Bitcoin full node which can also be used as a full node for other coins.

Our plan has been to go to a custom board to reduce costs by removing unused components and increase RAM when volume is sufficient. The $9 CHIP shows what is possible, as our target retail price is below $100 for a mass market consumer device. By going to flip chip design, where the integrated circuits are mounted directly to the printed circuit substrate with out leads and packaging, the electronics assembly can be a lot smaller since it essentially a single hybrid integrated circuit. 1 year for production delivery is a long time to wait, and other comparable products are likely to appear in the meantime.

The suggestion to develop a Crypti version for the CHIP is a good one, and they are local here in Oakland, so maybe we can arrange to meet.
legendary
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Our team has looked at the Chip $9 computer. This can run Crypti with 512 Mb RAM and 4 GB onboard flash for storage. The kernel kit looks worth buying. Chip could have a lot of IoT apps, comes with Bluetooth and up to N WiFi. The analog video is a nice touch, enough for a video interface without all the overhead of HDMI.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598272670/chip-the-worlds-first-9-computer

http://makezine.com/2015/05/07/next-thing-co-releases-worlds-first-9-computer/

I've thought some more (always a dangerous thing) about this $9 CHIP computer.  Their general public release is a year away.  The CHIP $9 computer could take off like a rocket starting May 2016.  Raspberry Pi sold FIVE MILLION of their ORIGINAL SINGLE CORE computer in three years - and THAT cost $35 or FOUR TIMES as much as the CHIP unit!!!

https://www.raspberrypi.org/five-million-sold/

If Crypti is going to win, it's got to play a long game and associate itself with other products and services that are going to grow big Big BIG.  This CHIP unit is definitely in that category.

There are two ways to play this and leverage Crypti off of CHIP-$9.  

First, we can do a port of Crypti Lite, wait for CHIP-$9 to come out a year from now, put out press releases saying look at us, isn't our CHIP-$9 Crypti app cool, and compete starting May 2016 for the attention of the public against all of the other developers doing a million other cool things with CHIP-$9.   This is the standard play, and it probably won't succeed.

Second, we can try to get ALL THE OTHER CHIP-$9 DEVELOPERS to incorporate Crypti / DAPP into the CHIP-$9 starting RIGHT NOW.  Assuming all their funding options sell out on Kickstarter, the CHIP gang is planning on sending out 1000 units in September 2015 and 5000 units in December 2015 to their earliest adaptors and developers.

What if we got in touch with the CHIP-$9 team RIGHT NOW and offered a 10XCR faucet to their 1000 Sept 2015 and 5000 Dec 2015 backers?  We could have 6000 new Crypti users by the end of the year at a cost of 60,000 XCR, and these new users would be motivated to incorporate Crypti into their own vendor / DAPP / development efforts on the CHIP-$9.

The sales pitch to CHIP would be that Bitcoin requires a $3000 card to run a "mining node" or Bitseed's own $150 card to run a "personal node", so the CHIP-$9 will never be capable enough to support Bitcoin.  But it IS capable enough to support Crypti from day one.

So...is anybody in the Foundation interested in reaching out to the CHIP team RIGHT NOW and trying to work with them to establish a cryptocoin capability option for their initial alpha CHIP-$9 sponsors in September?
  
http://forum.crypti.me/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=95&p=282#p282 .  Discuss here or there... >

 

hero member
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On another topic, we all (and especially Bitseed?) should be watching this effort to produce a $9 computer.  If this thing can run a Crypti Lite node, we need to make it the cornerstone of our vendor sales terminal hardware development effort.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598272670/chip-the-worlds-first-9-computer

http://makezine.com/2015/05/07/next-thing-co-releases-worlds-first-9-computer/

I mean, surely there's a way to make a Crypti Lite terminal that doesn't need a 160GB hard drive for vendors to use for a lot less than $149:

https://bitseed.org/product/blockchain-node-developer-version/

This sounds like a fantastic idea, the C.H.I.P computer is really something. Can't believe they are going for such a low starting price.
hero member
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mmmm, Crypti, one of the sleeping giants Smiley
legendary
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On another topic, we all (and especially Bitseed?) should be watching this effort to produce a $9 computer.  If this thing can run a Crypti Lite node, we need to make it the cornerstone of our vendor sales terminal hardware development effort.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598272670/chip-the-worlds-first-9-computer

http://makezine.com/2015/05/07/next-thing-co-releases-worlds-first-9-computer/

I mean, surely there's a way to make a Crypti Lite terminal that doesn't need a 160GB hard drive for vendors to use for a lot less than $149:

https://bitseed.org/product/blockchain-node-developer-version/
I agree, nobody needs 160 GB. Not for what Most people are using them for
legendary
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Our team has looked at the Chip $9 computer. This can run Crypti with 512 Mb RAM and 4 GB onboard flash for storage. The kernel kit looks worth buying. Chip could have a lot of IoT apps, comes with Bluetooth and up to N WiFi. The analog video is a nice touch, enough for a video interface without all the overhead of HDMI.
Looks cool, we'll see how things go
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